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Hip Hop BPM'ers....how low do you go??

DJ A-NAK 3:23 AM - 17 January, 2007
just wondering what's your lowest BPM?? what do your BPM's range from??
djransom 4:01 AM - 17 January, 2007
55 to 130. 55 being Busta's "In The Ghetto" and 130 being 8Ball & MJG's "Ridin High". I refuse to limit myself.
Audio1 5:05 AM - 17 January, 2007
wouldnt 55 be 110?
DJ A-NAK 5:24 AM - 17 January, 2007
yea i'm not limiting myself i am just wondering...i prefer like 68-135 somewhere around there
jayfunk 5:38 AM - 17 January, 2007
No Limit, everything works
Crickett 6:55 AM - 17 January, 2007
EVERYTING MAN!!

Yo---Whatever gets the biatches movin..It's all about the bitches!!!!!!!!
dyvrs 7:00 PM - 17 January, 2007
no limit.

DJ A NAK vs DJ A TRAK
sweetL 7:06 PM - 17 January, 2007
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wouldnt 55 be 110?

not necessarily. for example, jungle is 160-170, not 80-85...
mister iLL 11:50 PM - 17 January, 2007
low 70's dirty south/snap. i usually mix it in after a bunch of 140's stuff.
Audio1 12:42 AM - 18 January, 2007
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wouldnt 55 be 110?

not necessarily. for example, jungle is 160-170, not 80-85...


Funny you say that cuz when I BPM scan my drum&bass/jungle dubs into Serato, They come out in the 80-90BPM range rather than 160-180BPM range. Its funny. Most DNB producers produce at 175, or 87.5 in Serato. :)
Dj Goldade 1:23 AM - 18 January, 2007
60-140... depends on wats big at the time... like my love by jt... its big.. so you touch 60bpm cause they wanna hear it... i might only dip that low once a night.. but ill go there
J_Static 6:14 AM - 18 January, 2007
I'm with Goldade....

But I don't touch below 72 unless it opening set 10-11PM only, 11PM-midnight is straight FIRE!!!! or if I've got like 30 minutes less b4 closing and I know the owners are sticklers for closing on time, I'll slow it down to the 60's and 70 BPM range to get people knowing it's about that time
Dj Goldade 1:52 AM - 25 January, 2007
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if I've got like 30 minutes less b4 closing and I know the owners are sticklers for closing on time, I'll slow it down to the 60's and 70 BPM range to get people knowing it's about that time


word! if its closing time, ill play watever
DJ Hugh Tyson 2:32 AM - 25 January, 2007
It depends on the energy in the beat, for example, there are some crunk songs that are 70 bpm, but have a lot going on in the beat, fast high-hat/snare, so they move the room. Then you've got some radio-popular songs that are 100+, but they kill the energy and slow everything down. I can't go strictly off BPM any more.
dJ bMaN 6:02 AM - 7 February, 2007
The lowest bpm I go to is 45. That's for the "bump and grind' slow music. I like to use a song like Ciara's "promise" then go into something uptempo around the 120 bpm range since 120 in cut time is around 60-61 like the Ciara joint.
shiestO! 3:03 PM - 7 February, 2007
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wouldnt 55 be 110?

not necessarily. for example, jungle is 160-170, not 80-85...


Funny you say that cuz when I BPM scan my drum&bass/jungle dubs into Serato, They come out in the 80-90BPM range rather than 160-180BPM range. Its funny. Most DNB producers produce at 175, or 87.5 in Serato. :)



i haven't tried this myself on my dnb tunes (i need bpm's more for hip hop cuz of the range) but are you possibly pressing the button half speed? in dnb you'd be pressin i like a madman.. quick.. tap tap tap tap
Dj Goldade 7:42 PM - 7 February, 2007
to bMan.. i dont agree with fluttering around from 60 bpm to 120.. it sounds weird when you mix to songs with different vibes... like try mixing "Oh" with temperature.. it just sounds weird cause oh is meant to sound slow.. ... i'd rather just drop a fast song than try to mix it in.. or do a blend ;)
Serato
Bill M 9:25 PM - 7 February, 2007
Hey for 1.7.2, check it out...

We're thinking of adding another checkbox next to the "set auto BPM" checkbox for "constrain BPM" and then a slider that lets you set the range. So if you are BPMing some DJ Screw shit, you could set it to 50-100 where as if you are BPMing some drum&bass, you could set it to 120 - 240.

Does this sound like a good option?
dJ bMaN 10:32 PM - 7 February, 2007
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to bMan.. i dont agree with fluttering around from 60 bpm to 120.. it sounds weird when you mix to songs with different vibes... like try mixing "Oh" with temperature.. it just sounds weird cause oh is meant to sound slow.. ... i'd rather just drop a fast song than try to mix it in.. or do a blend ;)


Yes golddade, I do agree that's a terrible blend but try R.kelly's slow wind acapella with e-40's tell me when to go instrumental. Its one of my favorites. It gets the women on the floor.
Julls 10:52 PM - 7 February, 2007
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Hey for 1.7.2, check it out...

We're thinking of adding another checkbox next to the "set auto BPM" checkbox for "constrain BPM" and then a slider that lets you set the range. So if you are BPMing some DJ Screw shit, you could set it to 50-100 where as if you are BPMing some drum&bass, you could set it to 120 - 240.

Does this sound like a good option?


I'm all for it!!!
DJ Hugh Tyson 12:40 AM - 8 February, 2007
That sounds like a good idea, would I be able to have have it set 50-150 instead of 50-100?
Dj Goldade 1:33 AM - 8 February, 2007
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Yes golddade, I do agree that's a terrible blend but try R.kelly's slow wind acapella with e-40's tell me when to go instrumental. Its one of my favorites. It gets the women on the floor.


yoo i think you mis-understood me.. theres nothing wrong with double timing a crazy blend.. im sayin that plain mixing a 60 bpm with a 120 usually sounds retarded... blends on the other hand.. if sounds crazy, it sounds crazy.. full stop
Dj KaGeN 1:42 AM - 8 February, 2007
Yo BILL !!!

When the time finally comes and it will happen, I will Rebuild my entire library with the new autogain and bpm features.. Then go back to certain genres and set a constraint, and drag that folder back to be build overview. How about making this option attached to a crate.. That way I can run this process UNATTENDED. As libraries grow larger, shortcuts for saving time would be very helpful.
DJ K-otik 4:56 AM - 8 February, 2007
Before, I didn't like dipping below about 90bpm since there wasn't that much current hip hop below that range. Plus, it doesn't move the crowds that much. Now, hip hop is all over the place, so it's not so bad. But I still prefer the "hip hop sweet spot" between about 95bpm to 110/115bpm. I don't like dipping below 95bpm after, say, 10:30pm, so that's about an hour to an hour and a half opening with slower stuff, then I'll speed it up.
DJ Jinnai 7:20 AM - 8 February, 2007
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Hey for 1.7.2, check it out...

We're thinking of adding another checkbox next to the "set auto BPM" checkbox for "constrain BPM" and then a slider that lets you set the range. So if you are BPMing some DJ Screw shit, you could set it to 50-100 where as if you are BPMing some drum&bass, you could set it to 120 - 240.

Does this sound like a good option?


Yes plz!
Dj KaGeN 5:13 PM - 8 February, 2007
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Yo BILL !!!

When the time finally comes and it will happen, I will Rebuild my entire library with the new autogain and bpm features.. Then go back to certain genres and set a constraint, and drag that folder back to be build overview. How about making this option attached to a crate.. That way I can run this process UNATTENDED. As libraries grow larger, shortcuts for saving time would be very helpful.


and this !!!
That Guy 1 12:18 AM - 9 February, 2007
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Hey for 1.7.2, check it out...

We're thinking of adding another checkbox next to the "set auto BPM" checkbox for "constrain BPM" and then a slider that lets you set the range. So if you are BPMing some DJ Screw shit, you could set it to 50-100 where as if you are BPMing some drum&bass, you could set it to 120 - 240.

Does this sound like a good option?


Please!
That Guy 1 12:18 AM - 9 February, 2007
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to bMan.. i dont agree with fluttering around from 60 bpm to 120.. it sounds weird when you mix to songs with different vibes... like try mixing "Oh" with temperature.. it just sounds weird cause oh is meant to sound slow.. ... i'd rather just drop a fast song than try to mix it in.. or do a blend ;)


Yes golddade, I do agree that's a terrible blend but try R.kelly's slow wind acapella with e-40's tell me when to go instrumental. Its one of my favorites. It gets the women on the floor.


This style is old as dirt for FL and GA, since we've had Bass since the mid '80's.
Audio1 12:21 AM - 9 February, 2007
Yes, Below 90 is for 10-11pm / warm up slot... Drop some Gym Class Heroes, some crunk biz then speed it up... Usually a good way to start a night as the club packs in... Never understood why some clubs would start at 110+ at 10pm.
DJ Hugh Tyson 1:36 AM - 9 February, 2007
Yeah that shit makes people want to leave immediately. Some DJs will play hard house loud as hell to an empty room at 9:00. I haven't even had a drink yet, christ!
DJ Jinnai 10:26 AM - 9 February, 2007
I start at 1 BPM and go UP. :)
DJ-A 4:14 PM - 9 February, 2007
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if I've got like 30 minutes less b4 closing and I know the owners are sticklers for closing on time, I'll slow it down to the 60's and 70 BPM range to get people knowing it's about that time


word! if its closing time, ill play watever


I was at the sundance film fest, the DJ who ended the night was DJ SexyFingers.

the last song he played was the theem song for Cheers, when it said something about "everybody wants a place where everyone knows their name"

he stopped the music and said "And That's Now Here, everybody get the hell out unless we know your name... BYE! Go get a hotel or something... Bye"
Phooka 3:23 AM - 10 February, 2007
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Hey for 1.7.2, check it out...

We're thinking of adding another checkbox next to the "set auto BPM" checkbox for "constrain BPM" and then a slider that lets you set the range. So if you are BPMing some DJ Screw shit, you could set it to 50-100 where as if you are BPMing some drum&bass, you could set it to 120 - 240.

Does this sound like a good option?


That sounds brilliant!! Make it happen :)
DJ Quintessence 4:56 AM - 10 February, 2007
Solid
DJ Quintessence 4:56 AM - 10 February, 2007
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Hey for 1.7.2, check it out...

We're thinking of adding another checkbox next to the "set auto BPM" checkbox for "constrain BPM" and then a slider that lets you set the range. So if you are BPMing some DJ Screw shit, you could set it to 50-100 where as if you are BPMing some drum&bass, you could set it to 120 - 240.

Does this sound like a good option?


solid
Serato
Bill M 11:11 PM - 11 February, 2007
Awright, instead of a slider, I think a drop down menu is much cleaner. How do the following 4 BPM ranges sound...

55-110
70-140
85-170
100-200

seems like that would cover most styles and genres. Easy enough to add more range options if that doesn't seem like enough. thoughts?
swavek 6:57 PM - 12 February, 2007
I don't think the second value should be the exact double of the first one - with syncopated music, it's too easy for a BPM counter to confuse 100 with either 50 or 200. If at all, I'd suggest something like:
55-100
70-130
85-160
100-190
weeper 7:04 PM - 12 February, 2007
my range is from 68(crunk) to 135(booty bass)
DJ Hugh Tyson 2:27 AM - 13 February, 2007
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Awright, instead of a slider, I think a drop down menu is much cleaner. How do the following 4 BPM ranges sound...

55-110
70-140
85-170
100-200

seems like that would cover most styles and genres. Easy enough to add more range options if that doesn't seem like enough. thoughts?


That would work very well, thanks!
Serato
Bill M 3:41 AM - 13 February, 2007
okay weeper and swavek, just to make you guys happy, how bout

58 - 115
68 - 135
78 - 155
88 - 175
98 - 195
Julls 11:36 AM - 13 February, 2007
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okay weeper and swavek, just to make you guys happy, how bout

58 - 115
68 - 135
78 - 155
88 - 175
98 - 195


I can't wait for this feature!
djaction 2:17 PM - 13 February, 2007
*Usually* anything below 90bpm is flat out garbage
Tickle the Pink 2:20 PM - 13 February, 2007
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*Usually* anything below 90bpm is flat out garbage


have to disagree.

a few off the top of my head

87- 10 crack commandments
87- passing me by
88- get em high
84- big papa
69- big pimpin
goldpackage 7:52 PM - 13 February, 2007
me too.

aint hard to tell - nas
tried by 12 - east flatbush p'jects
i gotcha open - black moon
so fresh and so clean - outkast
oh - ciara
Tickle the Pink 8:01 PM - 13 February, 2007
IMO i'd say *usually* anything produced by a southern beat maker is garbage...in turn low bpm's.

sorry people. haha. just me.
Dj KaGeN 9:04 PM - 13 February, 2007
No word on assigning these ranges to specific crates /sub crates - So you can preemptively set them and forget them as you rebuild the folders as you add new tunes. I foresee BIG issues when adding tracks - waiting for the folder to build them RESET the range for the next folder.. yuck.


PLEASE ====>>>> Make this assignable to the crate/ subcrate so bulk loading of tracks to many folders can be done easily.
Serato
Bill M 10:05 PM - 13 February, 2007
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No word on assigning these ranges to specific crates /sub crates - So you can preemptively set them and forget them as you rebuild the folders as you add new tunes. I foresee BIG issues when adding tracks - waiting for the folder to build them RESET the range for the next folder.. yuck.


would love to do this feature. its a great idea. but we don't really have the infrastructure in place for it yet, so it def wont be part of 1.7.2. But I will push to get it in soon.
Dj KaGeN 10:20 PM - 13 February, 2007
ah shit........ Thanks Bill. I'll look forward to it in the future.
Dj Goldade 11:37 PM - 13 February, 2007
i think some ^ there mentioned the golden days of hip hop beats around 90-110... dude, thats so true... even a few years ago, in the get low days, all the banging tracks were around 100 bpm... these days we gotta play the slower stuff because its new.... but i hate doin southern sets... sigh.... but on the bright side... new dancehall shiet comin out around 120 is prime!!!