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Xtendamix Question

DJ Mups 9:14 PM - 4 March, 2010
Hey All,

Had a quick question about Xtendamix. I know it's a Canadian based service, but is it only available to those living in Canada as well? I was browsing the site and tried to sign up but noticed it asks for Canadian provinces (no other state/country options).

Thanks for the help. Already a member of SmashVidz & 8th Wonder, just looking for more options for content.
Dj-M.Bezzle 9:18 PM - 4 March, 2010
i was wondering the same thing, mabye im just an idiot but i didnt understand the signup sheet at all it was askign for like company info and province info
djnak 10:07 PM - 4 March, 2010
[address removed]

address found lol......Sign away boys..............
VJ Justin Allen 10:20 PM - 4 March, 2010
According to their terms of service you need to be a canadian resident. I know that mark is looking at heading down into the USA, but no word on when that will happen.
VJ Justin Allen 10:21 PM - 4 March, 2010
Forgot to post their terms :)

xtendamix.com
Dj-M.Bezzle 10:30 PM - 4 March, 2010
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[address removed]

address found lol......Sign away boys..............

LOL!!! xtendamix is gonna be like shit this must be an appartment complex just fo djs
Dj-M.Bezzle 10:32 PM - 4 March, 2010
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Users violating these conditions will be denied access to the site permanently and will be reported to the authorities.



will the US extradite to canada??
Dj-M.Bezzle 10:54 PM - 4 March, 2010
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It will happen, but Canada is the pilot to make sure we get everything proper first.


they said that about healthcare too
DJ Mups 2:14 PM - 5 March, 2010
Thanks for the info, I'll keep a lookout for future updates.
zompydj 11:16 PM - 5 March, 2010
DTVideos :) [link removed]
Serato, Forum Moderator
Eru G 7:51 AM - 7 March, 2010
Sorry zompydj, but I don't see how DTVideos is related to the discussion at hand, and it also borderlines on advertising. Link removed
FunkyRob 9:33 PM - 15 March, 2010
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address found lol......Sign away boys..............

LOL!!! xtendamix is gonna be like shit this must be an appartment complex just fo djs

Some kind of hospital or something ^^
Dj-M.Bezzle 10:11 PM - 15 March, 2010
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address found lol......Sign away boys..............

LOL!!! xtendamix is gonna be like shit this must be an appartment complex just fo djs

Some kind of hospital or something ^^



hearing clinic
ta2423 2:58 PM - 17 March, 2010
I just put in my address and made up the providence etc and it put me through... When I put in the visa card it received the correct address to charge my card. Guess I didnt really read their terms of service... Who really does these days? With all the software and online crap I use... My day would be nothing but reading terms of use. Oh well I have their library now if they boot me they boot me. Not to mention why would they charge my visa card that clearly states im in the US.
VJ Justin Allen 3:06 PM - 17 March, 2010
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Oh well I have their library now if they boot me they boot me.


And that statement right there is why XtendaMix should limit their downloads to xxx amount of older videos per month.
Xtendamix 3:09 PM - 17 March, 2010
We are, and it is because of those users. There are some changes coming, including an increase in fees for new members only and a download cap. It's too bad some people have to ruin it for everyone.
Millz 3:35 PM - 17 March, 2010
im still waiting for that list :)
lvmez 3:47 PM - 17 March, 2010
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I just put in my address and made up the providence etc and it put me through... When I put in the visa card it received the correct address to charge my card. Guess I didnt really read their terms of service... Who really does these days? With all the software and online crap I use... My day would be nothing but reading terms of use. Oh well I have their library now if they boot me they boot me. Not to mention why would they charge my visa card that clearly states im in the US.


don't commit any crimes bro. you have a big mouth.
ta2423 4:07 PM - 17 March, 2010
#1 apparently Im not suppose to be using the site in the first place... #2 I am in 4 record pools and stay on them even after I have downloaded what I can use because new stuff comes out. #3 if I didnt have a library to download I would have never joined. So MR Xtendamix is my money no good as a member and customer? If I am not mistaken Im still a customer. So with that said I did not download and bail.
Extendamix was my fourth choice in record pools. I in fact didnt join your competition in canada for the simple fact that I was limited. Even with excellent customer relations they gave with a phone call, talked to me about their pool etc etc. I was in fact shocked at how they handled their customers and actually appreciated the business. With that said... I did not join because the library only went back 3 weeks for new customers. Im not sure of anybody that would join that couldnt get older vids? Not to mention Extendamix cost me the most out of all of the record pools I am a member of. I have built a library of 3TB of music and music videos which in itself is alot of work for someone that doesnt have time to sit behind a computer all day. Did I need Extendamix? NO. Am I a member? Yes.
A crime. Thats retarded. If you want to get technical and the video police want to get technical. Get technical. They would have to build an ever growing prison for just DJ's.
DJ DisGrace 4:11 PM - 17 March, 2010
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I in fact didnt join your competition in canada for the simple fact that I was limited.


another video pool in Canada? do tell please!

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I have built a library of 3TB of music and music videos which in itself is alot of work for someone that doesnt have time to sit behind a computer all day.

Shenanigans! I have been ripping and downloading videos for a year and half and I'm barely at 700 GB
Dj-M.Bezzle 4:13 PM - 17 March, 2010
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#1 apparently Im not suppose to be using the site in the first place... #2 I am in 4 record pools and stay on them even after I have downloaded what I can use because new stuff comes out. #3 if I didnt have a library to download I would have never joined. So MR Xtendamix is my money no good as a member and customer? If I am not mistaken Im still a customer. So with that said I did not download and bail.
Extendamix was my fourth choice in record pools. I in fact didnt join your competition in canada for the simple fact that I was limited. Even with excellent customer relations they gave with a phone call, talked to me about their pool etc etc. I was in fact shocked at how they handled their customers and actually appreciated the business. With that said... I did not join because the library only went back 3 weeks for new customers. Im not sure of anybody that would join that couldnt get older vids? Not to mention Extendamix cost me the most out of all of the record pools I am a member of. I have built a library of 3TB of music and music videos which in itself is alot of work for someone that doesnt have time to sit behind a computer all day. Did I need Extendamix? NO. Am I a member? Yes.
A crime. Thats retarded. If you want to get technical and the video police want to get technical. Get technical. They would have to build an ever growing prison for just DJ's.



lol, its like saying you go to mexico to buy weed and its not a crime cause its ok there
VJ Justin Allen 4:14 PM - 17 March, 2010
DJ DisGrace: when you download everything and anything you find, regardless of if you need it or not, you can get that high pretty fast

ta2423: XtendaMix, at $35.00 per month, is your highest cost for a record pool? You should just be quiet and count yourself lucky.
ta2423 4:15 PM - 17 March, 2010
Ha Ha, I actually think around here they actually do go to canada to get theirs.
VJ Justin Allen 4:17 PM - 17 March, 2010
That's OK, this is a good lesson for Mark over at XtendaMix. When I talked to him a few weeks ago I told him then that more and more DJ's would "take advantage" of his services.

Sorry to see that what I told him is true...but I am not surprised.
ta2423 4:26 PM - 17 March, 2010
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DJ DisGrace: when you download everything and anything you find, regardless of if you need it or not, you can get that high pretty fast

ta2423: XtendaMix, at $35.00 per month, is your highest cost for a record pool? You should just be quiet and count yourself lucky.


I wont mention others right now... but with research the average is "Cough cough" 9.99 a month to 50.00 a month with all of them, some charge annually that has a sticker price shock but when spread out over a year it still costs the same. I dont choose because of price, I choose because of selections and ease of the site.
I didnt take advantage of xtendamix. Im still a paying member and will continue until I am not happy with the new content.
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That's OK, this is a good lesson for Mark over at XtendaMix. When I talked to him a few weeks ago I told him then that more and more DJ's would "take advantage" of his services.

Sorry to see that what I told him is true...but I am not surprised.

Lesson??? He needs to keep it the way it is. He is in business to make money and he has my monthly payment on time every month. The way it is now is exactly why I joined so he is doing something right.
ta2423 4:36 PM - 17 March, 2010
Xtendamix... Is my money good or not?
DJ DisGrace 4:41 PM - 17 March, 2010
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DJ DisGrace: when you download everything and anything you find, regardless of if you need it or not, you can get that high pretty fast


Fair enough... I guess I'm just selective, deleting alot of filler, doubles, and off-key mashes
VJ Justin Allen 4:53 PM - 17 March, 2010
lol I am as well
VJ Justin Allen 4:59 PM - 17 March, 2010
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Lesson??? He needs to keep it the way it is. He is in business to make money and he has my monthly payment on time every month. The way it is now is exactly why I joined so he is doing something right.


Hm Business must not be your strong point. Let's assume this as an example.

Pay $35.00 per month for unlimited access to XtendaMix. A person coming in can download everything and then leave.
Advantage: User

Pay $35.00 per month for new selections and (lets be really generous here) 50 older songs.
Advantage: both

Or there is this model (much like Promo Only)
Pay $35.00 per month and for an additional fee (let's say $35.00) the user can access one pre-selected listing of 20 songs. Think Promo Only's Best of 2006, volume 3 for example.
Advantage both, but more in favor of XtendaMix

After paying for every PromoOnly release for almost 7 years I think that any option that XtendaMix comes up with is good for me. And actually I would perfer the last one...just so people cannot log in for one month, download everything and then come on boards and brag about it...and then resell those videos to other users as well (and yes I have seen that happen)
ta2423 5:04 PM - 17 March, 2010
obviously for me to be legit again I have to delete extendamix's videos. Lesson to me to actually read the terms. Loss... 35.00
Actually was wondering why it would only take canadian provinces at first but accepted my us address for payment.
I would pay extra for older video's as long as I had access to them to see what Im getting. I would even pay a flat fee for all the previous videos. Money is not the problem. I do however dont want to join a pool that only goes back a few months with no access at all to older videos.
ta2423 5:09 PM - 17 March, 2010
Their market is dj's... Most dj's dont make enough to afford high dollar pools. So they have to be affordable to the people using them.
ta2423 5:18 PM - 17 March, 2010
oh crap... I better check the terms on the canadian porn sites Im downloading from.
Dj-M.Bezzle 6:04 PM - 17 March, 2010
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Their market is dj's... Most dj's dont make enough to afford high dollar pools. .


most incorrect thing ive ever read on this board, if their market was bedroom DJs then yes i could see that but working djs shouldnt have trouble affording a good pool and if they cant their doing something wrong
Dj-M.Bezzle 6:05 PM - 17 March, 2010
especially if your doing video, i mean come on man you should be making some real money there
Dj-M.Bezzle 6:06 PM - 17 March, 2010
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Xtendamix... Is my money good or not?

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if its not in Canadian dollars then no its not
djnak 6:36 PM - 17 March, 2010
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Their market is dj's... Most dj's dont make enough to afford high dollar pools. .


most incorrect thing ive ever read on this board, if their market was bedroom DJs then yes i could see that but working djs shouldnt have trouble affording a good pool and if they cant their doing something wrong

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especially if your doing video, i mean come on man you should be making some real money there



+1
VJ Justin Allen 6:40 PM - 17 March, 2010
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Xtendamix... Is my money good or not?


Answer this question and we can give you an answer.

Do you live in Canada?
ta2423 7:16 PM - 17 March, 2010
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Xtendamix... Is my money good or not?

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if its not in Canadian dollars then no its not


Ha.. They converted it to canadian when they charged my card.
Yes I live in canada 2 weeks out of the year. So when I go live in canada for 2 weeks I will get the video's.

with the case of how much a vj makes... That just depends where you are at and the call for it. If you can afford jay z to make a video for you personally then yes you are at baller status. Everyone starts somewhere and not one of you started with a profit when starting unless someone else gave it all to you.
Just remember how you got your first video's... Some may be all perfect go doers and have it that way... Some dont.
Dj-M.Bezzle 7:21 PM - 17 March, 2010
wow i was readin through the terms so i can continue bein a smart ass and read this

Licensee must disable and remove all tracks from their collection if they do not access the company’s website for longer than 30 days or upon written termination of the agreement.

....thats kinda fucked up lol i mean im sure theres a logical reason but lets say i go on tour for a month and dont really need new vids ill need to erase all the vids im using...kinda odd
VJ Justin Allen 7:23 PM - 17 March, 2010
Dude, a) you don't live in Canada...you visit canada, if that. Secondly are you seriously saying that it's OK to steal, lie, and/or cheat to get what you want just because you are "just starting out"?

I'm done with you and I hope that now you have admitted in writing to XtendaMix that you do not live in Canada I hope that he revokes your account if only to protect himself. (nice job admitting that by the way)
Dj-M.Bezzle 7:24 PM - 17 March, 2010
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I wont mention others right now... but with research the average is "Cough cough" 9.99 a month to 50.00 a month with all of them


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with the case of how much a vj makes... That just depends where you are at and the call for it. If you can afford jay z to make a video for you personally then yes you are at baller status. Everyone starts somewhere and not one of you started with a profit when starting unless someone else gave it all to you.
Just remember how you got your first video's... Some may be all perfect go doers and have it that way... Some dont.




if you dont make 9.99 a month to cover the videos your using to make money your doing something wrong, and yes i remeber where i started i got a job to afford equipment then used legal quality music to get gigs, saved money and graduadily joined more pools, even when i was a noob 9.99 a month wasnt hurtin my pockets
VJ Justin Allen 7:24 PM - 17 March, 2010
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Licensee must disable and remove all tracks from their collection if they do not access the company’s website for longer than 30 days or upon written termination of the agreement.


It's the same way with PromoOnly...they have the right to request all of your audio/video discs back after you leave them. They don;t usually enforce it, but it's there.
Dj-M.Bezzle 7:26 PM - 17 March, 2010
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Licensee must disable and remove all tracks from their collection if they do not access the company’s website for longer than 30 days or upon written termination of the agreement.


It's the same way with PromoOnly...they have the right to request all of your audio/video discs back after you leave them. They don;t usually enforce it, but it's there.



ya i understand them being able to ask you to delete but i dont understand making a rule about having to access the site a certian amount of times in a time period, its their rules so cool thats them but it seems kinda odd to me
VJ Justin Allen 7:28 PM - 17 March, 2010
Maybe "not access" is the same thing as not paying for your account every month. As long as you are a paid-up member then everything is OK.

Just a guess.
ta2423 7:38 PM - 17 March, 2010
Justin... Im assuming you live in canada? You sure are sticking up for extendamix here... Im also assuming you dont live in canada... Do you use their videos? Kinda odd that you are a us citizen and affiliate with them? Yes I am a member of the "9.99" pool but at the same time I hear about legalities with them. Im not worried about admitting to them that and they probably will terminate membership... Big deal dude... When I originally signed I did not read that I had to be canadian... Again big deal... I did not knowingly join the pool to steal video's... I can do that at walmart if that was my state of mind... Or even better yet hit craigslist for a harddrive filled with vids... I dont so quit riding me. Done with me? You dont even know me.
Everybody is a sinner and you are not god...
ta2423 7:44 PM - 17 March, 2010
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That's OK, this is a good lesson for Mark over at XtendaMix. When I talked to him a few weeks ago I told him then that more and more DJ's would "take advantage" of his services.

Sorry to see that what I told him is true...but I am not surprised.

???? you mean canadian vj's right?
Dj-M.Bezzle 7:49 PM - 17 March, 2010
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When I originally signed I did not read that I had to be canadian... ...


how did you not read that you had to be canadian when the 1st thing you have to fill out is a form stating where you live...and there are no USA options on the form ....and then this is stated

Users violating these conditions will be denied access to the site permanently and will be reported to the proper authorities.

By entering, you are signing and agreeing to a digital agreement confirming that all the above statements are true.
VJ Justin Allen 7:57 PM - 17 March, 2010
I am in no way affiliated with XtendaMix, and do not speak for them. I have had discussions with Mark about several things including encoding techniques and bringing his service to the USA. And basically Mark told me what he has told everyone else...he is making changes and one day hopes to extend his services to the USA.

And as far as my library collection...we'll count me as a dumbass as I have paid for, and have original copies of every song and video in my library. You see, I started out a ways back when you could only get Vinyl or Video Tape and DJ's with talent actually didn't try to screw over everyone else by making copies and giving it all away for some short-term gain.

And I have plenty of other things I am a sinner for...but my music library is not one of them.
ta2423 7:58 PM - 17 March, 2010
Bezzle... I thought it was some gliche... Typed in my own address when I got to the canadian part I tried usa couldnt and just left it and pushed enter... When it came time to pay it did in fact take my us residence and took payment as normal... Didnt even think to check terms because I dont share or distribute. Low patience so I tend not to read...
No big deal... I violated so ban me from the site... Lesson learned on my side. Loss 35 dollars... If I am not mistaking during sign up it did state that the currency would be converted from us dollars to canadian. Whats the purpose in that if I cannot be a member because Im a US citizen...
VJ Justin Allen 7:58 PM - 17 March, 2010
I should also add I have receipts from any download sites as well. And I would never think of selling or giving my library away to anyone.
VJ Justin Allen 8:01 PM - 17 March, 2010
Lots of canadian citizens have bank accounts in the US. The rate of exchange is favorable most times. I happen to have a credit card from the Bank of England from when I used to travel there all the time. The only reason I got it was to save on the rate exchange.
Dj-M.Bezzle 8:04 PM - 17 March, 2010
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Bezzle... I thought it was some gliche... Typed in my own address when I got to the canadian part I tried usa couldnt and just left it and pushed enter... When it came time to pay it did in fact take my us residence and took payment as normal... Didnt even think to check terms because I dont share or distribute. Low patience so I tend not to read...
No big deal... I violated so ban me from the site... Lesson learned on my side. Loss 35 dollars... If I am not mistaking during sign up it did state that the currency would be converted from us dollars to canadian. Whats the purpose in that if I cannot be a member because Im a US citizen...



lol
ta2423 8:07 PM - 17 March, 2010
I know this... I sale boats to canadians all the time... When their dollar is strong they buy in the us because they save money. Doesnt matter... At the same time when the card is approved it has to have a matching address which in my case is US.
So the info was there that I am in fact a us citizen.
Xtendamix 8:29 PM - 17 March, 2010
Wow, a long read. VJ Justin Allen, thanks for the support. It's not because of you I was putting these changes into place. We've been at $35.00 since we started with 200 videos, now we're over 2200 and the price is the same. Truth is, the labels take a percentage and want a few more bucks for the amount of downloads. So, we bump up, or cut down...and yes, if a user signs up, downloads everything and leaves, we do actually lose money. Not sure what the changes will be yet, but either an increase for new users only (current users stay the same), or a download cap, which would keep people in the pool longer in order to get everything.
Not sure yet, but everyone will know long before it happens.

We are like everyone else...we started buying the promo only discs for $40 a month from day one. As we did with vinyl and CDs previous to that. If we all waited till last year when everything became available on itunes, no one would have needed a startup collection. For new DJs who get everything for free, it's frustrating when you can become a DJ by joining one pool, then brag about it later.

Did we waste money on having vinyl now that everyone can be downloaded and played back in serato? You don't need that classic anymore, you can download the mp3 and have everything on vinyl now. But who knew...and we needed it in that format at the time..and there are some classics that you will never find anyone which cannot be replicated.

With all the pools out there, you can now start video DJing with over 4000 unique tracks for about $100. It's sad to what the industry has come to for those people who used to spend that on 8-10 tracks a week.

Anyways, we choose the legit route for a video pool and have overcome many barriers that were previously set out for us. We are in Canada and have deals with the Canadian labels only. We are also part of the AVLA and do have restrictions. One of them being that we cannot sell outside of our territory because each territory owns their own content and our permissions are for Canada. As for the site, we could have Geo-locked it so you needed a Canadian IP address to login, but then how do we show international labels what the site is about. What happens if you live in Canada, but do a show in the U.S.? So basically, if you found a way to beat the system, don't brag about it.
djbigboy 8:35 PM - 17 March, 2010
Hate to say "Well back in the dayz"...but back in the dayz, if you joined a record pool, you were happy to pay $70-$120 a month to get what you need. This is still a business and if you can't afford $50 a month, you shouldn't be in this business...and even when joining a pool, there was gonna be stuff you didn't get, and you'd go out and buy it...back in the vinyl days, a working dj probably had to buy $200-$300 a month minimum just to stay current...

I'd be interestested in checking out Extendamix's library, but I can be patient, there are more then enough sources of content out there to do without. If you are well connected enough, you probably don't need any pools for videos. If you are totally unconnected, I can't see how you can do without the video pools...

While they are shady people out there, I think all the video pools out there are probably doing well enough to not have to trip about some djs downloading their whole library or sharing their password...In the end, it's still a business with customers trying to get the most they can, and the business trying to expand and make as much as it can.
Millz 9:34 PM - 17 March, 2010
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And as far as my library collection...we'll count me as a dumbass as I have paid for, and have original copies of every song and video in my library. You see, I started out a ways back when you could only get Vinyl or Video Tape and DJ's with talent actually didn't try to screw over everyone else by making copies and giving it all away for some short-term gain.




Best fucking post Ive seen in a long time...

What it means you young punk bitches is quit selling hard drives and bootlegs
Millz 9:36 PM - 17 March, 2010
and while im bitching, did you see the video of dj vice mixing on the radio? he successfully mixed 2 songs together and the other djs in the room went crazy hootin and hollering...

lets take all these top tier djs and give them a dozen or so REAL vinyl records and have them try to mix then.
Christopher2 10:34 PM - 17 March, 2010
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Best fucking post Ive seen in a long time...

What it means you young punk bitches is quit selling hard drives and bootlegs


What are you talking about you hypocrite? You love bootlegs and you love 8thwonder, 90% of your posts are about 8thwonder.

The pots the same colour as the kettle you ape.
Millz 11:37 PM - 17 March, 2010
90% of my posts are about people who are editing things incorrectly. you can kiss my ass.
ta2423 11:39 PM - 17 March, 2010
Wowzer's
Bren 11:44 PM - 17 March, 2010
Burn the hypocrites lol.
Dj-M.Bezzle 12:42 PM - 18 March, 2010
tracking thread!
dj_paulsmooth 12:28 AM - 19 March, 2010
lol i'm tracking this too!! ..... waiting for dj mups to chime in! i know he couldnt have imagined his simple question sparking into a 'spit fire" thread !
Joshua Carl 1:28 AM - 19 March, 2010
whats this all "aboot" ?
Henry GQ 7:28 AM - 19 March, 2010
wheres my popcorn.
DJ Mups 3:18 PM - 19 March, 2010
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lol i'm tracking this too!! ..... waiting for dj mups to chime in! i know he couldnt have imagined his simple question sparking into a 'spit fire" thread !


LOL... Yeah definitely not my intention... Just sitting back with popcorn in hand now like everyone else haha...
VJ Justin Allen 3:23 PM - 19 March, 2010
I think it's all over.
djpuma_gemini 4:03 PM - 19 March, 2010
kurupt said it.
DJ DRE the assassin 3:41 AM - 15 May, 2012
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Wow, a long read. VJ Justin Allen, thanks for the support. It's not because of you I was putting these changes into place. We've been at $35.00 since we started with 200 videos, now we're over 2200 and the price is the same. Truth is, the labels take a percentage and want a few more bucks for the amount of downloads. So, we bump up, or cut down...and yes, if a user signs up, downloads everything and leaves, we do actually lose money. Not sure what the changes will be yet, but either an increase for new users only (current users stay the same), or a download cap, which would keep people in the pool longer in order to get everything.
Not sure yet, but everyone will know long before it happens.

We are like everyone else...we started buying the promo only discs for $40 a month from day one. As we did with vinyl and CDs previous to that. If we all waited till last year when everything became available on itunes, no one would have needed a startup collection. For new DJs who get everything for free, it's frustrating when you can become a DJ by joining one pool, then brag about it later.

Did we waste money on having vinyl now that everyone can be downloaded and played back in serato? You don't need that classic anymore, you can download the mp3 and have everything on vinyl now. But who knew...and we needed it in that format at the time..and there are some classics that you will never find anyone which cannot be replicated.

With all the pools out there, you can now start video DJing with over 4000 unique tracks for about $100. It's sad to what the industry has come to for those people who used to spend that on 8-10 tracks a week.

Anyways, we choose the legit route for a video pool and have overcome many barriers that were previously set out for us. We are in Canada and have deals with the Canadian labels only. We are also part of the AVLA and do have restrictions. One of them being that we cannot sell outside of our territory because each territory owns their own content and our permissions are for Canada. As for the site, we could have Geo-locked it so you needed a Canadian IP address to login, but then how do we show international labels what the site is about. What happens if you live in Canada, but do a show in the U.S.? So basically, if you found a way to beat the system, don't brag about it.



so long story short, do you have a problem w/ us (US Dj's) joining and using your site even tho it "violates" your terms and conditions....?
djpuma_gemini 4:37 AM - 15 May, 2012
You can't join if you're from the US, not that they have a problem with it, it's that it's not allowed and you won't be able to get an account activated.
VJ Justin Allen 11:44 AM - 15 May, 2012
I am pretty sure that they are working hard to get the US labels on-board. Many people may not understand that there are separate division of the same parent music company and what's allowed in Canada has to be renegotiated for the US, and abroad as well in almost every case.
Xtendamix 1:41 PM - 15 May, 2012
The site used to be all automated, where if you met the conditions, you were automatically granted access. Now it's all manual, so we verify the billing address, phone number, email and everything. If it all matches, you get access. We turn away 4-5 users per day. So to answer your question, we can't accept U.S. DJs because it violates our terms and conditions.
djpuma_gemini 3:34 PM - 28 August, 2013
Europe for Xtendamix Europe
Canada for Xtendamix Canada
Maskrider 7:46 AM - 5 September, 2013
US customers just have to wait......
Hitman303 8:28 PM - 5 September, 2013
just curious....what does Xtendamix Europe have that Xtendamix Canada doesn't have and vice versa?
Code:E 12:18 AM - 6 September, 2013
some music is legal is one place but not the other or is legal on a different label. They are very close to the same. I have not been told by xtendamix that any of my requests where not legal in canada and I ask for some random shit (says the xtendamix guy). and the pricing is cheaper in canada even when the exchange is factored in.
Hitman303 2:34 AM - 6 September, 2013
Does the Europe version have more electronic releases?
Xtendamix 12:31 AM - 9 September, 2013
Europe has Sony Extendeds, Canada does not. Europe is missing some dance stuff from All Around The World that is restricted that Canada does have.
Hitman303 1:45 AM - 9 September, 2013
Cool, thanks for the info
Xtendamix 1:58 AM - 9 September, 2013
No problem, just ask and we will be happy to provide you with all the details.
Another thing that is different on some videos in the chyron. Ultra for the U.S., Sony for U.K. and stuff like that, so 2 different chyrons depending on the site.
slimmjimm 1:25 PM - 9 September, 2013
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Ultra for the U.S.


O RLY?
Xtendamix 7:24 PM - 9 September, 2013
Ultra's deals are Canada and U.S. (North America)
slimmjimm 11:43 PM - 9 September, 2013
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Ultra's deals are Canada and U.S. (North America)


You just had me thinking you let something out of the bad with the U.S. comment. Boo.
Xtendamix 2:35 AM - 10 September, 2013
Be patient
VJAndrus 5:42 PM - 10 September, 2013
Xtendamix does not work. I purchase membership today but i did not get any credits. Nobody answers e-mails.
Code:E 5:54 PM - 10 September, 2013
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Xtendamix does not work. I purchase membership today but i did not get any credits. Nobody answers e-mails.

Xtendamix is great, they will get back to you asap. The guy calls me whenever have big issues. just hold on. Activation is not instant.
VJAndrus 6:10 PM - 10 September, 2013
Thank you for your response. They contacted me and hopefully we will get things sorted.
rocstardj 6:20 PM - 13 October, 2013
i have 1317 downloads and i can't download anything…i have no download queue ..and they are not respounding to my e-mails smh
Xtendamix 9:47 PM - 13 October, 2013
When you click on the file, wait about 3 seconds and it will start downloading. The queue will be ready just after the weekend and you can switch back
Deejae Smooth 12:56 AM - 26 November, 2013
I haven't used Xtendamix but I do use a few other pools and one problem I see over and over again is an incomplete mix/edit. Most video editors/remixers seem to get the idea of an intro for the video project they're working on but they don't always remember the outro.

Any video edit/remix that has an intro should have an outro as well. Just sayin..
Code:E 1:08 AM - 26 November, 2013
All Xtendamix videos I have with the intro have the outro also.
Code:E 7:19 AM - 26 November, 2013
Nope..... I don't know of any legal Aus video pools. I'm sure some exist, but I don't know of any.
Maskrider 2:44 AM - 29 November, 2013
Xtendamix from what i heard has an extensive amount of Videos…….
Deejay One 2:51 AM - 29 November, 2013
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Xtendamix from what i heard has an extensive amount of Videos…….


@Maskrider

Yes they do. They have the deepest catalog I have ever seen and I have been on a lot of video pool sites.

You can sign up for free and browse what they have. You only pay if you want to download.
Deejae Smooth 4:46 PM - 15 December, 2013
Not all Xtendamix videos are "extended". They feel the need to "cut a lot of them down for time" for some reason. I disagree with this concept 200%.

I do a lot of video remix work in Vegas Pro and it's extremely easy to grab parts of the source video and insert them into the gaps to make the video track match the audio track in a Vegas Pro project. Very easy. :)

If the concern is file size, video Djs should rocking 2, 3 or 4 terabyte external hard drives so file size should be an issue.

There's just no reason not to do it properly. If your audio track for whatever remix is 6 min 32 seconds, your video remix should also be 6 min and 32 seconds.

Just sayin. :)
VJ Justin Allen 5:04 PM - 15 December, 2013
I tend to agree with this as well. I can see the issue being it's a challenge to take a 3 minute video and stretch it across an original 6 minute remix. But yea, I wish I could get the longer edits.
Xtendamix 5:11 PM - 15 December, 2013
Our extendeds are usually mixshow edits. Usually 32 beat intros than into the radio edit. For some of the house or EDM stuff, we use the full version on some.

If it says "Club Mix", then it's the full version. If it says "Edit", then it's an edited version. If it doesn't say anything, then it's a mixshow edit.
Rebelguy 5:12 PM - 15 December, 2013
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Not all Xtendamix videos are "extended". They feel the need to "cut a lot of them down for time" for some reason. I disagree with this concept 200%.

I do a lot of video remix work in Vegas Pro and it's extremely easy to grab parts of the source video and insert them into the gaps to make the video track match the audio track in a Vegas Pro project. Very easy. :)

If the concern is file size, video Djs should rocking 2, 3 or 4 terabyte external hard drives so file size should be an issue.

There's just no reason not to do it properly. If your audio track for whatever remix is 6 min 32 seconds, your video remix should also be 6 min and 32 seconds.

Just sayin. :)


First, what would be an example?

Second, are you really playing a song 6 min and 32 seconds?

Third, I don't think they make it a point to go out of their way to edit songs down. It may just be the audio version they have.

Fourth, they are pretty accommodating if you can't tell by all the requests they fill and multiple versions of videos they make to fit all the various remixes of a song. If you told them a song you wanted a full version to you might be able to send them the audio and have them make it

Fifth, no its not "very easy" to make extended versions of songs using the provided source file. Extending a 3 or 4 minute video to 6 minutes plus while avoiding lip-flap or repeating the same footage multiple times is pretty rough sometimes.
Joshua Carl 6:01 PM - 15 December, 2013
6 minutes Doug E Fresh your on
Deejae Smooth 6:13 PM - 15 December, 2013
I don't want to mention the name of the song but I had already done my own video remix of it a month or so ago.

When I'm mixing, I prefer the full length, un-edited remixes because those are better for beat mixing than an edit that was slapped together using a 32 beat intro on the front and back of a radio edit. The transition from the intro into the song and then the song into the outro usually sounds like crap.

When I do my video remix, I usually start at the beginning of the video and select part by part where someone isn't singing and line up all the parts. Once you have all of the pieces off to the side on the timeline in Vegas then you focus on the verses and choruses. Once those are done, start dropping the video pieces in to fill in the gaps and build out the intro and outro. Some remixes are easier than others but if you're gonna do it, do it right the first time. Start with the full, proper audio mix and go from there.
Code:E 6:16 PM - 15 December, 2013
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When I'm mixing, I prefer the full length, un-edited remixes because those are easier for beat mixing because I have no flow, and beat matching is hard.

Fixed :p
Code:E 6:21 PM - 15 December, 2013
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Some remixes are easier than others but if you're gonna do it, do it right the first time.

That's your opinion. I prefer what they currently. It makes tracks more usable. playing the 2nd breakdown (or the 1st if I only play the 2nd half) is just a waste of time and a good way to put your crowd to sleep. And its really easy to add a cue point 32beats in so you dont get there intro.
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tart with the full, proper audio mix and go from there.

Again that is your opinion. There is nothing wrong with the versions they use, and its already been said if you want a different version they are always willing to take requests and usually have them out in a few days.
Deejae Smooth 6:22 PM - 15 December, 2013
Nice response. Very professional.
Code:E 6:43 PM - 15 December, 2013
And they say I can't take a joke..


But seriously all of your complaints are about personal preference and not anything actually being done wrong.
DJ DisGrace 6:57 PM - 15 December, 2013
95% of the time the edits work for me. The other 5% I make my own edit. No big deal.

Check DTVideos for more "Club" versions
djnak 7:09 PM - 15 December, 2013
I will NEVER play more than 3 and 1/2 minutes of a 6 1/2 minute song... just sayin...I don't even know why producer make songs so long in todays A.D.D. market....
Rebelguy 7:27 PM - 15 December, 2013
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When I'm mixing, I prefer the full length, un-edited remixes because those are better for beat mixing than an edit that was slapped together using a 32 beat intro on the front and back of a radio edit. The transition from the intro into the song and then the song into the outro usually sounds like crap.


That is your opinion. You are entitled to have it but don't expect it to be shared by everyone.
Rebelguy 7:30 PM - 15 December, 2013
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I don't want to mention the name of the song but I had already done my own video remix of it a month or so ago.

When I'm mixing, I prefer the full length, un-edited remixes because those are better for beat mixing than an edit that was slapped together using a 32 beat intro on the front and back of a radio edit. The transition from the intro into the song and then the song into the outro usually sounds like crap.

When I do my video remix, I usually start at the beginning of the video and select part by part where someone isn't singing and line up all the parts. Once you have all of the pieces off to the side on the timeline in Vegas then you focus on the verses and choruses. Once those are done, start dropping the video pieces in to fill in the gaps and build out the intro and outro. Some remixes are easier than others but if you're gonna do it, do it right the first time. Start with the full, proper audio mix and go from there.


My question is that since you are from the United States how are you even accessing Xtendamix videos?
Code:E 7:31 PM - 15 December, 2013
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My question is that since you are from the United States how are you even accessing Xtendamix videos?

We will see how long that lasts.
djpuma_gemini 8:00 PM - 15 December, 2013
Not anymore.
Xtendamix 9:37 PM - 15 December, 2013
We don't have DJ Smooth as a user

What bothers me the most about this post is he said in an email to me before he went on the board, that someone sent him the remix. So he doesn't have an account, but he's sharing other content. When I asked him about it and told him it violates the terms, he told me to "relax".

So I take this conversation with a grain of salt. Since we can't service the U.S. yet, you are more than welcome to do your own edits. Don't take something you aren't supposed to have and complain about it
Rebelguy 10:12 PM - 15 December, 2013
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We don't have DJ Smooth as a user

Don't take something you aren't supposed to have and complain about it


Guess he wasn't that smooth.
DJ DisGrace 10:34 PM - 15 December, 2013
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Guess he wasn't that smooth.

+1
or professional!
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Very professional.
Code:E 11:02 PM - 15 December, 2013
Lots of us may be pro's but nobody said we need to be professional.
DJ Trucha 11:39 PM - 18 December, 2013
i signed up to bpm supreme and also bpm latino it is a bit pricy but i have all the lastest videos with different versions and i am really satisfied with it so far i used to be part of xtendamix but just wasnt feeling the video quality and selection
Maskrider 1:42 AM - 19 December, 2013
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i signed up to bpm supreme and also bpm latino it is a bit pricy but i have all the lastest videos with different versions and i am really satisfied with it so far i used to be part of xtendamix but just wasnt feeling the video quality and selection

Oh...really
Joshua Carl 2:54 AM - 19 December, 2013
First post...ehem
Xtendamix 1:36 PM - 19 December, 2013
Sounds like a promotion and advertising
the SOUNDINSURGENT 3:10 PM - 19 December, 2013
When are y'all coming stateside???
Rebelguy 4:20 PM - 19 December, 2013
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Sounds like a promotion and advertising


I paid in US dollars when I signed up with Bpm supreme!

Why do I have to pay in pounds when you sign up with Xtendamix and I live in New Zealand



Probably because Xtendamix is a legal video pool choosing to follow the rules and regulations of the region they are servicing where as Bpm supreme is not.

If you are happy with BPM Supreme then continue to use them. They will eventually get shutdown and then you will have to move on to the next illegal service.
Joshua Carl 4:50 PM - 19 December, 2013
I remember when I used to think the whole world used dollars....lol
Rebelguy 8:23 PM - 19 December, 2013
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Probably because Xtendamix is a legal video pool choosing to follow the rules and regulations of the region they are servicing where as Bpm supreme is not.

If you are happy with BPM Supreme then continue to use them. They will eventually get shutdown and then you will have to move on to the next illegal service.


same thing that could be said about Xtendamix you don't know that for sure sure that's hear say.


If you are in a country where you are eligible to subscribe to Xtendamix then they are perfectly legal. I can guarantee the same can not be said of the pool you are in.
DJ DisGrace 8:24 PM - 19 December, 2013
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everyone is using the Pound and Euros cause they profit a lot more

You obviously have a poor understanding of exchange rates and associated bank fees
DJ DisGrace 8:34 PM - 19 December, 2013
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are u going to be positive in this discussion or are you going to be really nasty

I'm going to avoid conjecture, assumptions, and false statements. How's that?
Xtendamix 8:35 PM - 19 December, 2013
You are free to do what you want. But bootleg pools don't pay the labels therefore can charge what they want. So don't knock the pools that pay royalties and criticize their pricing structures.

Chances are if you are paying the labels, you have a less chance of getting shut down, since you are essentially co-operating with them. If you aren't a legitimate pool then you can do what you want until you get caught.
Rebelguy 9:34 PM - 19 December, 2013
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You see as a customer I look for the best deal that I can get and I purchase it.
I don't really know or care if the site is legal or or not


So if someone were to go to your house and steal all of your equipment it would be cool because they don't care whether its legal or not?
Joshua Carl 9:37 PM - 19 December, 2013
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I don't really know or care if the site is legal or or not


Unsubscribes from thread
Code:E 1:44 AM - 20 December, 2013
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everyone claims that they are Legit,

no they don't.

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as a consumer I don't know that, and frankly why should I care, If a site gets shut down then they get shut down,

you are whats wrong with Dj's today.
deejay_buddha 9:44 AM - 21 December, 2013
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lol okay here we go with the copyright bullshit, good luck with that dude its like you pulling out the race card if things don't come your way....


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everyone claims that they are Legit, as a consumer I don't know that, and frankly why should I care, If a site gets shut down then they get shut down


Not to mention this one:

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same thing that could be said about Xtendamix you don't know that for sure sure that's hear say.


Hear-say ....

Hmmmm....

In Canada and Europe, Xtendamix is licensed. May google help you sleep at night without your thoughts of hear-say ;)

I guess you're not an active enough DJ. I'd care if I wasn't 100% sure where my music was coming from every week.

As an employee of Xtendamix (which I don't hide, I'm not the main Xtendamix member you all typically communicate with, I've had the pleasure of meeting some of you from the board, and I typically keep quiet on these matters ... however ...)

I think what has most of us in an uproar about these comments overall is just simply that we have an understanding of economics. If the following doesn't make sense to you, than I apologize and won't confuse you any further:

Do you consider that the music you're playing at your event is by artists who expects some form of compensation? In the same way that you don't play your gigs for free? A better question, if this were the era of records (not CDs, or anything digital as of yet), how empty would your crate of records be, and how would you handle requests?

If that's too far forward, I'll simplify it this way:

Artists/Labels need royalties to function to make music so we can play it.

Do what you please, but if the DJ economy folds, don't say you helped, and don't say you were a victim either. And copyright can be pulled out here, you're playing copyright material aren't you?
Maskrider 1:25 AM - 24 December, 2013
I guess that says it all...
JDTheDJ 9:04 AM - 30 March, 2014
any latest news on when xtendamix will be in the USA
Xtendamix 12:07 AM - 31 March, 2014
No final date yet, just working out the details. Hopefully soon
Taipanic 5:54 PM - 31 March, 2014
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everyone claims that they are Legit,

no they don't.

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as a consumer I don't know that, and frankly why should I care, If a site gets shut down then they get shut down,

you are whats wrong with Dj's today.


+1
When you have a whole generation of DJ's that can have a full collection of music in a few hours from a torrent site that took some of us decades to build up legally; most of them have no appreciation or care of what it takes to do this profession right. All they care about is getting why they want - at no consideration of others or a care of who they hurt to get it. To be a full working club DJ in 1988 would take you a year and thousands of dollars to build up enough of a collection to play 5-6 hours gigs 5 nights a week. In 2014 all they have to do is spend $150 on a hard drive and $300 on a controller = "Instant DJ" Then it's off to undercut legitimate DJs because club owners want to convinced these guys are good enough and they can save money themselves. Of course, most of these guys suck because not only do they not have the technical skills of beatmixing, phrasing, & harmonic mixing, they have almost no knowledge of proper programming, floor rotation, musical history and it's place in your mix, etc... They still have plenty of ego and attitude though.
Maskrider 2:47 AM - 1 April, 2014
We are getting replaced of internet jukeboxes…….lol
max_imus 2:08 PM - 29 November, 2016
I have never spent a dime on a record pool, for obvious reasons, don't wanna give money to people who are stealing other people's property.

I have been planing to start VJing for a while, and am just a few months away from finally starting to build my collection as I haven't had time so far. My intention was mainly to rip videos and merge them with high quality audio. However, I learned that this is far more complicated and time consuming than I had hoped, due to having to synchronize speed. Also, the export quality options are extremely limited with Final Cut Pro, which I tried out - don't know if this would be better with Premiere.

Long story short, when I heard about Xtendamix at a Serato workshop last week I was intrigued to say the least, because this is basically exactly what I had been looking for. As far as I can tell this service definitely seems to be legit. However, I have some issues with the site and how it works for which I hope to get answers here.

Most important ones cover the legality of the site and the licensing. The FAQ are extremely vague on this subject, and I don't know if this is done so intentionally.

I you cancel your subscription, you have to delete the files. How, if at all, can this be technically enforced? Are there countries where DJs are actually forced to have their files be checked by some kind of authority in clubs?

The reason for this is, of course, that the artists need to be reimbursed. However, again, I see no way of technically checking which videos we actually play at a venue. So are royalties just paid out proportionally to the owners of the videos we downloaded? Does Serato collect and share some kind of information with third parties about files used with their software?

Next, Xtendamix claims to be licensed in the European Economic Community. However, this construct ceased to exist in 2009. Do you mean the EU - and, if yes, what does this mean for countries like Norway or Switzerland? Or do you mean the European Single Market, i.e. EU and EFTA?

Why is there no detailed information on pricing available before one signs up?

These are just some of the question I have before I sign up.
popnwave 7:41 PM - 29 November, 2016
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I have never spent a dime on a record pool, for obvious reasons, don't wanna give money to people who are stealing other people's property.

I have been planing to start VJing for a while, and am just a few months away from finally starting to build my collection as I haven't had time so far. My intention was mainly to rip videos and merge them with high quality audio. However, I learned that this is far more complicated and time consuming than I had hoped, due to having to synchronize speed. Also, the export quality options are extremely limited with Final Cut Pro, which I tried out - don't know if this would be better with Premiere.

Long story short, when I heard about Xtendamix at a Serato workshop last week I was intrigued to say the least, because this is basically exactly what I had been looking for. As far as I can tell this service definitely seems to be legit. However, I have some issues with the site and how it works for which I hope to get answers here.

Most important ones cover the legality of the site and the licensing. The FAQ are extremely vague on this subject, and I don't know if this is done so intentionally.

I you cancel your subscription, you have to delete the files. How, if at all, can this be technically enforced? Are there countries where DJs are actually forced to have their files be checked by some kind of authority in clubs?

The reason for this is, of course, that the artists need to be reimbursed. However, again, I see no way of technically checking which videos we actually play at a venue. So are royalties just paid out proportionally to the owners of the videos we downloaded? Does Serato collect and share some kind of information with third parties about files used with their software?

Next, Xtendamix claims to be licensed in the European Economic Community. However, this construct ceased to exist in 2009. Do you mean the EU - and, if yes, what does this mean for countries like Norway or Switzerland? Or do you mean the European Single Market, i.e. EU and EFTA?

Why is there no detailed information on pricing available before one signs up?

These are just some of the question I have before I sign up.


Record and videos pools are no different than 3rd party promotion companies. Their job is to reach people who play music that the labels themselves may not have the networking to go. With companies like Xtendamix, PromoOnly, Smashvisionz/VJ-Pro you aren't giving money to people who stole material, that's their job...... unlikebootlegremixsitesyoumightsee

It's an honor system when it comes to removing material you are no longer licensing for use. The same thing went for cut outs, promo items, etc - the labels always said they could reclaim it as part of their agreement to lending/sending it to you.

The Xtenda crew are pretty active and if you emailed your EU based questions to them on their site, I am sure you'd get a response from them.

So read between the lines as you see fit, but your computer isn't going to implode if you download video and don't ever resubscribe, nor is there some hit squad deleting files in clubs. It might haunt you if you 1) decide to be a jerk and sell your library 2) piss off the wrong person in the music world, let your subscription lapse and happen to play at some unlicensed venue (that might be US only (BMI/ASCAP/SESAC).
max_imus 9:40 PM - 29 November, 2016
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The Xtenda crew are pretty active and if you emailed your EU based questions to them on their site, I am sure you'd get a response from them.


I know, but this way other people who are interested might get this information too, and they only have to answer once.

Try not to quote the whole post when responding.
popnwave 9:45 PM - 29 November, 2016
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Try not to quote the whole post when responding.



Annnnd that's a quick way to not get responses in the future.
Xtendamix 10:16 PM - 29 November, 2016
Hey Max_imus, I will try to make it as clear as possible

Since record labels can't service individually, they grant special permission to certain pool who they trust and they work with to be their distributors. We take a portion of the money generated and pay them their royalties. We also submit a user list so they know who is licensed with us and who isn't.

We do in fact, open up every file and replace the audio with proper CD audio. We also create extendeds and remixes for some videos, so it would be exactly the same as if you were playing a particular mix that you are familiar with, that mp3 that you like, or a club mix, just there's a video attached to it.

In terms or licensing, the EU is covered under the VPL. So we pay our royalties to the VPL and they distribute it based on market share to the individual EU countries and rights societies. Since we are considered a "promo pool" and not retail, we are allowed to offer the videos to you at a reduced cost. Therefore, you technically don't own the video, you license it.

The retail model, which is itunes or buying a CD for example, you pay a higher rate and you own it for life. With a pool model, you license it. After not being active for 30 days, your license to play that file expires. I don't delete from your hardrive or corrupt itself, but you technically can't play it. We don't have the means to enforce it, but your name no longer goes on the report to the labels. Sometimes they act, sometimes they don't.

Once you sign up and create an account, then the pricing will be visible to see.

If there's anything else you need, feel free to email us directly