You've never completely shit the bed on a mix live for a crowd.

You use ipods

There is no mixer in front of you

You've never had your hands on vinyl

80% of your playlist can be found on crooklyn clan

If you actually think "girls love dj's"

If you played "I'm on a boat" because you think it's a hot song

If you think a dj that does not use vinyl is not as good as someone who does

If you do not know what key means

If you've never seen a vid of another dj that made you want to quit so bad that 5 mins later you were on the decks trying to do that shit!

if your name is dj qualls.

if u never walked around air scratchin ( hiphop djs particully) so it will be some more practice time. hahaha

The truth.

if you don't know how to blend a song.....you have to be able to keep the music going without having the beats crashing all over the place..

oh fo sho! I was just gonna stay away from the technical aspects of djing lol

your mom DJs better than you

if your name is DJ (insert name here)

Oh, snap.

that was technical.......lol

...if you are posting DJ jokes and and f5ing the Rane or Serableton or Serato 2.0 threads.

10 Mins and Counting!!

if you don't try and beatmatch your entire life, from your footsteps to the indicators in your car :)

technically no... key has to do with music. Key has no effect on the dj's technical skills. A dj can spend a entire night and never mix in key and 99.99999% of that crowd will never skip a beat because most of them do not care. A real dj mixes in key because he dj's for the music, for the fun of entertaining a crowd. Oh and before there was the "celebrity dj" that dj's/promotes/produces there were real dj's that used whatever they could... there was no such thing dvs or even a thought there of.... the mp3 was the dream of a dream... people recorded sets to a tape and a computer was the size of a bank vault.... 99% of those guys were known as dj(insert name here)

I do that all the time with the turn signals on the cars in front of me hahah .

i do the indicator thing too,
when i get a tune and a red light and actually get a sync'd indicator/tune mix, its the shizzle!! lol. i can scratch my indicator by going left and right real fast confsuing people but i dont care, im in the mix!! hahahaaha

that and windshield wipers......anyone here ever counted beat to the broken lines in the center of the road?? I used to do that all the time when i was a kid

lol yeah, but not as a driver, too dangerous. yo have to speed up and slow down too much lol. but i beatmatch all kinds of things.

...you trainwreck and call it seemless mixing.

lol not the speed just counting the breaks in the road with the measures of the song

oh. hahahah i was that guy people see and go "what the fuck is that guy doing!!"
hahahahaha but not anymore.

you are NOT a Real DJ if you Don't Know what SSL means

SSL can refer to:

In computing and electronics:

Secure Sockets Layer, now Transport Layer Security, a communications protocol
Single Stuck Line, a fault model for digital circuits
S/SL programming language
In business:

Sasol, a company in South Africa, NYSE stock symbol SSL
Solid State Logic, a manufacturer of mixing consoles
Space Systems/Loral (SS/L), a spacecraft manufacturer
SSL International, a consumer healthcare manufacturer, owning brands like Durex and Scholl
System Simulation Ltd, a software engineering company
In space sciences:

Space Sciences Laboratory, in Berkeley, California
Space Systems Laboratory, at the University of Maryland, College Park, formerly at MIT
SSL can also refer to:

RoboCup Small Size League
Selangor Sign Language, a sign language used in Malaysia
Semi-supervised learning, a class of machine learning techniques
Serato Scratch Live, a digital DJing tool
Sesame Street Live, a touring version of the children's television show
Social Science Library, Oxford
Sodium stearoyl lactylate, a food additive used as an emulsifier
Solid-state lighting, a lighting technology that utilizes a cluster of LEDs
South Salt Lake, Utah, a city in the US state of Utah
Swedish Sign Language, a sign language used in Sweden
Swedish Super League, a floorball league in Sweden

i refer to SSL as swedish super league. all the time.

just wanted to prove im a REAL dj by showing i know ALL the meanngs lol

If you don't own any 45's.

i got some 45s...and some 22s and a glock!! LOL just kiddin

You are not a real DJ if you don't hate on other DJs (probably because you're insecure about your own DJing.)

DJ's are haters!!!

If you've never beat matched a song in your head to the rhythm of the windshield wipers while driving in the rain.

In your HEAD? Try adjusting the Windshield Wipers to the mix playing on the radio...

Or your turn signals....










I think I've said too much....

How about beat matching your left turn signal to the car in front of you at the stoplight?

That's easy....

havent all these been said before.....in this thread....im sure theres mopre to being a real dj than winsheild and turn signals

if you havent rode a bike for 50 miles just to buy 5 records( i did that a couple times from orange county to LA record shops) this was back in the 80s.

if you never carried a car full of milk crates with vinyl to the next party ;)

if you never got in a fist fight with another dj trying to hog the dj system..true story (1987) that was hardcore

if you never got a chance to spin vinyl

if you never been in a dj battle of course spinning vinyl at a back yard party

many many more i can think of but im done...next

before the days of internet, I had just gotten my first truck and didn't know my way around town (other than riding the bus)

So, I waited near the bus stop in my new Mazda and followed the bus until he reached Star Records. I took forever, but it was better than riding IN the bus.

there's a grandfather clause for DJ's that started before the mid-90's

hahah im from the old school so i got an excuse :)

audio 1 thanks for your remix zip on cc

if you never slagged some record across country in your carry-on changing 3 planes, only to get home and find out the sh*t is warped.

if you never got excited like a kid at christmas when you stumbled upon an old Shalamar record at goodwill.

if you never spent so much time standing over your decks practicing that you have a permanent neck cramp and an upside down J for a spinal cord.

If the words "tag team" makes you think of WWE/F or Porn.

That's what I WAS gonna say....

Or do we need to battle?

If you don't know what Bit's and Pieces is!

Then have you Ex Give all remaining Crates away all 17 Hardest Day in my life, I almost went to jail. Never recovered :(

If you Serato Crashes, and you don't have Backup to keep the music going

That's the only thing i'm talking about when I say SSL.

Serato is either plain Serato, Sir Hate-O or "The Awesomeness"

you spend more time on serato.com than using serato

+1

Also, if you don't know what songs are good or new unless they play them on the radio.

You pre load scratch sounds into your Virtual dj so you can play them and drop a new track in (true story, I actually saw this)

You download all your music on limewire

You steal another Dj's name, drops, or mixes and claim them as your own.

As in, somebody just playing Scratch sounds in full while they put the next track on?

He had a playlist going so when the scracth sounds came on it already loaded the next track on the free deck and started to play it. It was awful. He only had 4 different scratch sounds so eventually people could tell.

That's terrible.

even more terrible if he was pretending to go through the motions!

You're not a real DJ if:

You use Virtual DJ

You have not heard of technics

You play a full song with no edits

Have not had an equipment malfunction

You started because it's "cool"

Huh? What do you mean by this? Do you only play songs with edits? If someone plays a song without edits, they're not a real DJ?

Just let a song play through. Like say they let "I Gotta Feeling" - Black Eyed Peas the full time and they don't scratch, beatmatch, or mess with it in any way. then let it finish and just bring in another song. Like a Radio DJ

Don't you mean "Beats 'n Pieces" ? :oP

So you're not really concerned with them playing a DJ "Edit", vs. them just letting a song play all the way through...

Because I play "regular" records all the time.

You made it seem like a DJ HAD to play an "Edit" or some type fo Remixed version to qualify...whilst I never play DJ "edits", or at least, not that I know of, assuming they are those "Extended Intro/Outro" things...

You're not a real DJ if you wonder SL has beatmatch feature

Damn thats funny! I recently played a house party where the other DJ was just using cdjs to play his 20 minute pre recorded virtual dj mixes and when it almost ended backspin into the next one on the other deck. So when I went on next using serato he was asking me "where is the autosync button on here?" I wanted to slap him!

You're also not a real DJ if you can't spin without Serato.

Spun a gig one night where the DJ before me had a computer malfunction and decided to not spin despite having 3 djs offer for him to use their CD's. And he couldn't use the "I don't know their music" because it was all mainstream electro/house/edm stuff.

You obviously are not a real DJ. It's Bit's and Pieces.

You're not a real DJ if you still trainwreck on ACID/ABLETON/(insert popular multi-tracking software here).

crawl before you walk.

Depends on what you're referring to, but since you are a real DJ and I'm just pretending to be one, I'm sure you can explain me the difference between bits 'n pieces and beats 'n pieces.

Hey man...I'm the only token Banana here

I was joking. I do not know what beat "n pieces are. Maybe I am not the real DJ, LOL!!! But the question remains, do you know what Bits and Pieces is?

I know, but I wasn't, I'm trying to pretend to be a DJ without anybody noticing it :oP. So far it worked out pretty well both on the forum and in front of the crowd.
This Watchwww.youtube.com is Beats 'n Pieces, it's one of the first singles of Coldcut in 1987. Revolutionary in the areas of sampling, producing and DJ'ing since they made a fantastic music-collage of "beats" and "pieces" (they even do this fantastic "peter and the wolf" with a phat break at the end), ... and they were able to perform this live as well. A true hiphop track ahead of it's time and one of the favourites that deformed my taste in music.

But no, I never heard of the term "bits and pieces" related to DJ'ing (at least not here in Belgium), unless you're referring to all the "bits and pieces" that come with your cartridge when you're trying to install it :o). I'm intrigued... Make me a real DJ Dan! :o)

I see. Bit's and Pieces was a mix of songs that was on a single back in the late 80's from the previous year. Somewhat of a collage of music. I remember having at least 3 or 4 of those vinyls back in the day. I am going to check and see if I still have them.

OMG! Y'all NEED to stop PLAYIN!

Here's a "Bits and Pieces"...

www.djjohnnym.com

Thank god for camera phones.

That's it!!! Mine were white though.

You are NOT a REAL Dj if...

You book events without having the proper equipment. (calling peeps to borrow equip)

You didnt pay more than $10 on any music or LEGIT software within the whole year!

Funny, it actually says BITS AND "P - C - S", for "Pieces"....

you dont know your own equipement! how to clean faders, what aux out/in is? what does curve do?

your attitude is "i can rock any club" when youve only been in the game less than a year..

You dont know what BPM stands for..

I've been a massive Coldcut fan for ages so that was my first thought - he'd spelt it wrong.

But then I remembered back when I was a kid, here in the UK (the dreadful) radio1 used to do summer roadshows and they did a quiz called bits and pieces.

Anyways... You aint no DJ if the smell of vinyl doesn't give you just a little thrill.

Forget that, what a fader?!?

:P

There are several of them on youtube... nice!!! Guess I was a little young at that time, but thanks! Great stuff!

For real!

I see this all the time.

If youve never had "Road Ready" imprinted in your hand.

Oh OK..I got you...Yeah thats wack.

I'm more familiar with these bits & pieces

www.discogs.com

I"ve never heard of a Mixx It record until I got to this board...

It says "beats" , not "bits"

..if your outfit is more cool then your DJ'ing skills

Your'e not a real Dj if you come to the party 5 minutes before you need to start playing, without hearing what the Dj played before you, ask the Dj (that's playing at the moment) to help you connect the mixer and CDJ's because you don't know how, and then put 2 CD's in the decks. 55 minutes each CD (one track), and stand for 2 hours waving your hands without touching the decks !!! (TRUE STORY)

true, I always burn cd's and sling in a few vinyl incase of malfunctions. I've seen big dj's do this before, no names :).

Nah, back in 1986 a company called Bit's and Pieces was the first to take small samples and mix it together for a 10 maybe 14 min mix. on the other side, would give you all the Bit's and Peices that made up the Mix. I had almost every Album. It came out once a year. but 1991 was the only year it had 2. I wish i ex did not do me wrong, I would of MP3 them and up loaded them to all. But If anyone know how to get them, I would pay $50 per Vinyl. I think there was 12 total. I can't remember, It was a long time ago.

That is not the same. Bit's and Pieces, had a single mix, some times two mixes on one side, but the other side was all the pieces.

Yeah, that is it. How many do you have, Can you rip them to MP3? just the Mix, Less you have time to do Side 2

lol i'm over 34, 35 Tomorrow, with an Older Brother and Cuz that where DJ's at the Time, So it is more oldschool if you know what Bit and Pieces is lol

I can't find any, can you put up a link please?

Haha!!! That's a good one.

only 45's i have are Serato 45 cv's
dose that count!

half of these shmucks don't even know what Im talkin about

It actually bugs me they put that on the handles, always end up spinning them around to try and avoid the imprint.

Whut? Dubbie, that's strange! You were kean to get those and your name contents the word dub, but you don't have no other 7 inch large wholes 45 jamaican Reggea/Dancehall/Dub records?

Oh my bad it was Buddy, not Dubbie. Sorry Dubbie!
Still hard to believe Buddy, it make you more a N.E.R.D. that you want the Serato 7 inch records and don't own real 7 inch records.

Guess ima N.E.R.D
the bottom cv's are the only 45's i own!!
picasaweb.google.com

well there not large hole 45's
so i guess i got no 45's

Nice collection BuddyLove, but where are the Shibuyas and Def Jams?

And the GC 45th Anniverary and the Eric Orrs? Where are those, are you accumulating money?

And the A-Traks.......

shibuyas & A-Tracks dont have

Def Jams, GC's havent got up pics yet!

Eric Orrs waiting for mr post man

You must don't like 'em, huh?

love all my cvs
just havent had a camera for my GC's & Def's
and havent had a job to get shib's & A-Tracks
ive been using what little unemployment $$ on my Def's / GC's
ha

Dayumn, Buddy, you got pretty far with that little unemployment money...
If you get a job, call me.

I had an experience with that. A DJ in Destin (a female who shall remain nameless) was kicking it with my boy and agreed to come back to the house. There we just had vinyl with a regular mixer. Until she got to the house she was telling us "I'm going to school you guys. You got nothing on me...blah blah blah". Long story short she got to the house and first thing she asked was. "You don't have cd's or a beatcounter?" then insisted she didn't all of the sudden "feel well". This really was one of those moments of "yeah you're not a real DJ" came to mind. If you don't know where your art has been (vinyl w/ a two channel basic mixer from the days) then how do you know where you're going? KNOW YOUR ROOTS! OH and if you can't spin vinyl, on a mixer without a beat counter, and beatmatch...you're NOT a DJ.

ive been out of work for about a year..only been receiving un emp for about 3 months..
havnt bought all my cv;s off un emp $$$ only my GC's, Def's, Eric Orrs & Stones

I don't want to say anything bad about you, Buddy. I'm feelin' ya.
It was more like, gimme a call, when you have more money to spend...

Lmao

When you can beat match and do some scratching on a gemini beltdrive table and cheap gemini 2 channel mixer then you have skills haha.

You're not a real DJ if all you're known for is collecting control vinyl

lol

what do they call those....Serato Fan Boy?

Does getting a Serato Tattoo make you a fan boy?

ehhh..sadly yes..
but i would be down for one

Well I like my serato tramp stamp. The unicorn gives it "flair"!

You're not a real DJ if you're known for nothing, haters.

Better to be known for something than nothing ;)

Let a Traktor roll all over you!

calling dub cowboy!

You're not a real DJ if you contribute to this thread. You're not a real DJ if you're worried about other DJ's. If you were a real DJ, you'd be too busy to even bother with this thread.

I just contributed so I'm not a real DJ. I'm cool with that. I love turntables..... I love vinyl.... I love scratching.... I love mixing.... but I don't love catering to crowds and being their personal plaything. I like to play music they wouldn't like otherwise unless I delivered it to them in a way that they wouldn't realize they were hearing unless I gave it to them my way....

But thats not what djing is now..... Djing now is about playing what the crowd wants and being safe. So.... yup. I'm not a real DJ. I'm what a DJ use to be ;)

Think about that for a second

oh.... this thread is gay

Uhhh....jump the shark anyone.

Erhm... just search "bits pieces mix" :o)
Watchwww.youtube.com
Here's one, on the side you will find links to several other ones.

+1: Damn right! Safe like double bagging it before banging a crack whore. I, too, am what a DJ used to be! Back in the day, you went to a party, club, event, to hear NEW & DIFFERENT stuff, stuff you wouldn't hear any where else. Back when DJ's would tear the labels off of joints, so you didn't know what they were and couldn't "bite". Nowadays, you play something new or different in your set, and you will clear the floor. If they have not heard it umpteen times before, it will kill your vibe. However, every city I have lived in, always has a venue that has a NO REQUEST, DJ Night, dedicated to the DJ's, and you can detox from the over-commercialization of music and support your local DJ's.

ur not a real dj if ur exposed on youtube not using ssl just having a cd collection ur not a dj

video?

if your more worried about how good you look behind the decks than how good you sound!

so tired of these "hottest female dj" "sexiest dj" blah blah blah that can't mix two tracks with the same bpm. worry about your skills before you worry about your thongs hanging out.

this is a big one, now in days its all about how cool you look
my check = 50% on dj equipment/music, 30% food 20% clothing

Your NOT a REAL DJ if you take this Tread to seriously LMFAO

I thought it meant if you use CDs you aren't a real DJ? Anything with 'Ur" written in it that many times instantly becomes impossible to understand.

fixed.

If you brag about every colored serato vinyl you have

If you bitch about a $30 mp3 pool

If the majority of your audio is 128kbs

If you bought a hard drive from cl and call yourself a dj

If you don't own any real vinyl

if you do gigs for exposure

you are not a real dj.

You are not a real DJ if you are reading this thread trying to justify that you are a real DJ...

Check



[quote[if you do gigs for exposure

Check

Guess im not a real DJ :(

If you bitch about other DJs.

Lol. Another hater reveals themselves.

+1

you're not a real DJ until Rane and Serato actually send you promo CVs and you don't have to buy them on ebay.

jajajajaBOOM!

You Dj so bad you tried to beat match the Serato control signal...

You Dj so bad you can't beat match the Serato control signal...

I hide my laptop under my table so the crowd doesn't see it.....

I have a milk carton with old LP cases with about a 12 Serato Time Code Vinyls. The rest are my old LPs that I don't play. Just there for display and to fill up space.

My routine.....

Pretend like I don't have a laptop and give the illusion by replace a time code vinyl with another time code vinyl when I get ready to put in the next song.....

People see me from the dance floor just changing vinyl after vinyl and think that I am doing this for real.

At the end of the night I get paid and I go home and do it over again until the weekend is over.... And then I go to my day job for the week until its time for the weekend again....

^^^ for real?

why does that dude keep looking under the table?

lol I am short and the table comes up to almost my chest area.... So it seems like I am just putting my vinyl away or taking a drink and putting my cup down....

Plus that flip vinyl for next song feature helps to! :-)

I always thought that was a cool feature but I never used it much

mighty dragon sounds, are you ashamed to be using scratch live?

Not at all..... But I just wanna be different..... Because here in the Islands (West Indies), just about EVERYONE that calls themselves a DJ uses Virtual DJ. Its annoying. When Virtual DJ came out, everyone here downloaded it and called themselves DJ over night... smh.

Where I play there is usually about 5 DJs, and mic men that pile the stage. About 4 laptops right next to each other. Most don't even bother getting a controller. They just DJ with the laptop alone and all the audio comes out of that little phone jack and they wonder why there sound quality sounds like $h!t....

People look up, they see me, they see 2 turntables, a mixer, and vinyl and I am not hunched over a computer screen pushing buttons. They take notice and they know me as the DJ that does things different.

I've gotten many other gigs off island after I started that trend because its different. And since I've been doing it, more of the younger DJs are now starting to get controllers so it seems like they are actually doing work. Some ever upgraded from VDJ to Itch. One went and saved up for a CDJ and a SL1. So I feel that somehow I am making a difference.

I will make a statement though. Even though VDJ may be a good and cost efficent tool. I don't like it....

Now I will say this.... Here on St Croix..... 9/10 DJs use VDJ.... The rest Use Itch, and Scratch Live..... Some select few use CDs.....

^^^^^^

I actually go that idea about hiding the laptop from someone on this forum to..... Can't self remember who though.... Turned out to be great!

Word up bro. I'm trying to incorporate real vinyl into my Serato set.
It seems like a lot of DJs forgot that they gotta be different. They all do the same ish now.

Hey Mighty Dragon, I know also a dj who's hiding his laptop, but he's playing vinyl records 95% of the time, the rest comes from Scratch Live.
Anyway, you can even flip your vinyl, this will give you more variety in your playlist, ha ha.

i guess after dropping (insert insane amount of money here) on CV,Serato feels like sending you promo. What they send you compared to how much money you have spent is a ridiculous amount of cash!

but to each his own.... I'm not impressed at all by color CV. They all do the same thing!

i dont have a chick, stopped drinking *well kinda*
im gonna spend my $$$ on things i love "vinyl"

Ouch....

Unless you had an Opener that played all the hits before you got on, and you still rocked the crowd...........

www.Dysquo.com

you not a real dj if u dont have 2turntables and a mic dont care if they cdjs or vinyl dj"s have turntable hands down

dat da truth

if you dont practice all the time

I heard a like from a KRS-1 song
"If you've got serato, bravo, but if you can't cut vinyl records you won't be able to follow"

like=rhyme

How did you misspell rhyme as like?

While having sex with music in the background, I go to the tempo of the track, build speed with the snare roll and bust a nut after the white noise sweep finally drops to the first bass note.

What?

In all seriousness, i can't deny beat matching in the car and other obscure times mentioned above. I was on the tredmill that had one of those heart rate meters at the gym, and i thought it would be a good invention to hook up headphones to the treadmill and have music playing at the same bpm as your heart rate.

I originally meant line, but I figured rhyme would sound better :)

Ahh ok

You aren't a real DJ if you let your DJ software do your mix transitions for you. But then, since thats not even available in Serato (and better not ever be.....!!!!) thats not an issue here !!!!

if youre Pauly D....Wahahaha!XD

co sign + 1..that happen to me at the scratch academy with ie merge n dj big wiz......PHUCKED MY MIND UP!!!!!! ya hear me

dj pushbutton

if... you don't have over 20 different cans that are busted on the same spot.

cans? do you mean like par cans?
-I have a bunch of old par 36 pinspots in which the wiring is burnt out...

so i must be a 'real' DJ lol

headphones.... sonys, technics, and two pairs of pioneers all broken at the same spot

dude... I never thought I'd hate anything sooo much but I despise Sony's... augghh. Those things are a hazard -- all of em!

c'mon OB1... you shit'n me right..?

I shit you not... I just don't typically refer to headphones as 'cans'
-though I've heard the term b4

and yes, I am on my third pair of damn sony v-700's

I will never buy a pair of Sonys again for that reason. I went through 3 pairs of Sonys, Pioneers, god knows what else. I now keep no less than 3 pairs now!

my most recent pair is a set of 7506s

they were given to me and were broken within 2 months.

so I ripped those bitches apart and rebuilt them. soldered all new wiring and my patented ear cozy security system

yfrog.com

looks good...

you sit behind your computer on message boards all day....

Just this one.

;-)

I got Sennheiser headphones...they are solid and you can exchange like every part of them...I love 'em.

that... and DL some tunes. I dj to eat Hubbs... this is how I make a living. I try to get more involved with ppl that are into the same field as I am to get better... and you..? why are you here...?

+1 -- I've had mine since xmas and so far, so good.

I'll try to get more in... I've had my share of issues and this forum always saves the day for me... its only right to give back.

well put MelonHead

My 7506 are dope. I've had to buy a pair of replacement ear pads, but other than that they work great. I've had this pair for over 2 years now, and that a long time for headphones. I also have a pair of Senhiesers but one ear died on them so I keep them in the car as my emergency back up pair.

if you get offened by ANY of the posts in this thread!

Tmi

good job..thats talent...not just anyone can do that shit

^^^ Solder and duct tape, my friend.

Solder and duct tape....isn't that what Chuck Norris uses to masterbate?

If you can't work off of vinyl and turntables...

or you can't scratch

sandpaper and duct tape

LMFAO

if you have never dreamt about, or actually got head while djing... im still dreaming!!

Not a Dj if sitting in front of a computer using software to make an hour mix....

push button djs..dj push button........but does using sl1 or sl3 or ttm57 make u a push button dj since ur in front of a computer??

or a dicer?

Shout out to DJ Benjamin Buttons.

co sign +1....but im not gon lie ...i want the dicers

I bought the Dicers...... and I used them twice..... Just realized that I am always touching my computer anyway to search for songs..... Uses up usb ports for not much better effectiveness to my mix...

Did you think about a different MIDI controller like the Traktor Kontrol X1? You can do all that crate and track scrolling and loading with the knobs on this one...

Well I still am typing in song titles under the all "search" button, so either way... Hands on keyboard. I build crates but they act as sort of a guide to me. After a while I go freestyle.

you are not a real Dj if you still have to ask Mac or PC

linux

only When I was DJ'ing at Club Paradise. So I wont call her on Stage. I miss them days. They normally Give a Tip, But that day I gave her my Tip. lol

I don't Use a Dicer, I use
Denon DN-HC1000 Serato™ Scratch Live Sub Controller
www.guitarcenter.com

lol

Knopipix

+1

...if you don't own a Crane Stand.

killsuperman

+1

If you play other dj mixes at your own gig........

Hmmm...there are a GRIP of cats on here who have openly said they've downloaded such and such DJ's mixes from here, and use them occassionally to open up their own set...

I've always felt funny about that, but now that you've said it......

That is just a no go and against my dj morals and I believe almost everyones on here, right folks?

Dude, I'm telling you, it's OK on here.....

Where's that link? I think it was one of J0be's mixes that people were downloading, and saying that they were rockin' it to start off their set....

Don't quote me though...

I think it depends on the situation, if your standing behind the decks acting like its yor mix NO its not ok. If its the begining of the night noones there and your ar the bar or walking around checking sound i dont really think it matters much. Ive acutually promoted a good # of DJs on here when people ask whats playing while im eating before a gig (i love working at a place with a restraunt LOL) and ill burn em the cd and send em on their way

I would play my own mix in that case. I listen to other mixes at home, or on my ipod.

What I would do is take apart their mix and find out what songs they actually used in it, then mix it and give it MY touch.

****Speechless*****

Agreed. You would take all the same tunes and mix them together just for the sake of your own touch? Why the hell wouldn't you find your own damn tunes?

I think he's kidding lol.

I don't think he is. This is the same kid that was trying to scratch on the rubber Technics mats.

You see, you guys aren't understandin. I don't want to sit there doin nothing in the DJ booth or act like I'm doin something, so I'd rather mix a mix live than play a pre-recorded mix.

And this situation is only for really, really, really good stuff I hear.

Edit: You see, you guys aren't understandin. I don't want to sit there doin nothing in the DJ booth or act like I'm doin something, so I'd rather mix a mix live than play a pre-recorded mix. Then IF I'm going to be doing that I'd want to give it my own touch, so that what I give is something a little different than the other guy.

yup lol thats johnnys chosen one lol




youll understand when your old enough to be in a DJ booth, i wasnt saying stand in the booth and not mix, early in the night theres plenty you can be doing before people get there. After i get things set up for music i need to walk around make sure all the speakers are hooked up and sounding right, make sure all the lights and fog machines are set up, go holla atthe manager and bartenders make sure everyones on the same page, makin some last minute calls to people to get people comming up there ect ect ect. I love mixin as much as the next time but when its 8 or 9 and noones there and i know im going to be goin hard till at least 4am im not tryin be in the booth wastin energy....besides its no fun to jesus pose when noones there to see you LOL

HA! and there's this "post mixes here" thread... can't make it anymore easier for noobs now-a-days

But I'm sayin'....

There's no shame?

I don't think anyone should use someone else's prerecorded mix. I don't wanna see most DJs act like singers, but instead of mouthing the words and not singing, they'll be doing the motions and not mixing.

I make my own pre-mixes that I load up to my IPod and play incase of a crash..... or early early into the night during sound check and waiting for the first couple groups of patrons to come in.

Milli Vanilli

yup thats why its a must to use your DJ NAME in your mixes. Thats also why radio stations uses drop outs while there mixing on the air . So no noobs with there $3000.00 dj system, that don't no how to mix, can play a prerecorded mix from Bad Boy Bill or another dj on there first party or gig... never know people are ghetto now a days......especially with these digital files you can do a lot with them...

What are "Drop Outs"?(NoSweathog)

Drop outs is artist name or dj name during the mix..

rephase dj drops I'm bad

..if you are wondering if other djs are "real" djs.

Too Funny, I don't Use Other Dj's Mixes. I do look at other DJ Playlist, and see what is Good, and maybe use 3 songs back to back to mix it. I do it, just like when I was like 16 year old, back in the days listen to the Radio With Red Alert in New York, and when I heard a mix that was killer, I would try to do it. Know I just listen to Other DJ Mixes to learn what is new, so I can keep it fresh. Sorry to say I have not been listen to many mixes. But I look at playlist to see. I'm Still trying to get that Sexy Bitch Remix with the Chick singing. Correction... Google is your Friend lol
DJ Leah - Sexy Chick (Girl Answer Remix) <but can't Find a Good Quality. Anyone can help be cool

Okay back to:
If you play only Request

^...if you don't play ANY request. I know too many DJ's who only play what THEY want to hear, forgetting that they are getting paid to play what the crowd wants to hear. if you only want to play what you want to hear, stay in your bedroom.

I've done it a couple of times to open the night.

A couple of places I've played wouldn't get busy (by busy, I mean more than 10 people) until maybe 90-120 minutes after opening, so I've put on other DJ mixes for the first hour or so.

Sometimes to just pass the time, but mostly mixes I want to listen to loud or haven't had the chance to.

e.g. Erol Alkans Disco 3000 podcast, various magazine CDs.

Could never put a DJ's mix on and pass it off as my own though

e.g. Peter Hook

Oh yeah, this is my first post, had Serato like 2 weeks, hi and what not

D x

If you use ableton and midi controller

ive never seen any big name djs take requests when ive seen them play....

^part of being a dj is making ppl feel what your playing otherwise wed be playing top 40 songs on repeat....

just depends on what level you are as a dj. Headliners of course do not take request... that's why they're HEADLINERS -- they have hundreds and even thousands of people that follows 'em to hear what they'll play... not the other way around. Now for the likes of myself who are are building their name, who spins at small bars and clubs, who works for 3-400 a night, a small timer if you will, taking request is almost a prerequisite. Until you get to where there is a demand for you, get off your high horse for a sec and take a stupid request... trust me, it wouldn't hurt your SUPERSTAR status... you may even get your name mentioned a few times the next day.

can't believe no one mentioned using headphones as a mic, all these new jack hustlers

exactly...i am referring to your everyday working DJ. i have been to too many clubs, hell, even weddings, where the dancefloor is empty, because the DJ wants to "school" the crowd on what good music is and refuses to play what the people want to hear or take any request because they feel above. it is first and always about the crowd...even superstar DJ's know that, that is how they became superstars.

ahahhaah lol oh $#!+ ay yooooooo/!!!!! are u for real??? GNR!

hahahahahhhahahahaahaahaha oh $#!+ son!!!! lol!!

LOL

the out come of that is horrible

Yeah when I was like 5, 25 year's ago lol

I Got to admit I use headphones as a mic on my first couple of parties . Top it off the guess where making announcements using the headphones LoL ...

Nice LoL

How about "DJ Pauly D" DelVecchio Jersey Shore LoL their lot of negativity in dj forums about this foo...

You tend to aquire alot of hate when you reach the level of success that i have obtained.

Pauly, you boned Angelina?

... you are a virgin.

I had to do that the other night. I forgot to bring a mic and had to make an announcement that the drink special was over.

This is how I know I am a real Dj...

"Hi DavidHousehead,

Congratulations and welcome to Blip.fm, you are now officially a DJ."


YES!!! :)
lol

BAHHAHAHA....nice

If you are still bitching that your 'I" processor laptop does wok with Sl1 or TTM57 & too cheap to get an Sl3.....

You must not leave the house & DJ for money too often...

i got a i7 laptop with ddr3 mem with sl1 ans sl3 and ttm56......so what you tryna say god :@) ((lol))

^ at least your one of the smart ones & not sitting around waiting for miracles....

its not what I was tryin to say..its what I did say!

i know im just phuckin with ya

but with the itmes i have ,,,,what mircale could one be waiting on???

Lol... the miracle of a fix for their sl1 or ttm57 usb 1.1 problem.

daaaaaaaaaaammmmm hahahahahahah lol oh $#!t!! :@)

Watchwww.youtube.com

well guess im not a real dj since i never got my coxk sucked in the booth....at least not yet.....i thought this wat made me a dj......<iframe class="youtube-player" type="text/html" width="960" height="745" src="www.youtube.com frameborder="0"></iframe>

if you wear a stupid mask!

....2 years later i know.. ha

+10000000000000000000000

so many dj's i see think there hot shit cause they spent a $1000 on CC and play all those remixes. I fucking hate that shit.
I would rather hear a DJ play originals all night but do there own live mashups and beat juggling and anything else cool they can.

You're not a real DJ if you play a premixed song and act like your mixing by turning random nobs.

well you know what they say.... you cant really DJ until your dons is 8 inches long..
(good pickup line btw)

dong*

all day on the air crab and air double flare....i even make ahhh sound it my head as my fingers are cutting...lol

lol, i do the same. If I'm sitting down I pretend there's a crossfader on my jeans and practice the motions. Or if I'm at a table or desk I pretend the crossfader is on there.

Your not a real Dj if you just started 1 month ago. Your not a real Dj if you wear skinny jeans. Your not a real Dj if you are rocking the dr beats headphones . Your not a real Dj when you are stuck in your bedroom making crappy mixes uploading them online. Your not a real Dj when you go to guitar center and act like your shit stinks and your asking what controller is better to mix on! Your not a real Dj when you start telling your family I am a Dj hire me for little bobs 3 year old bday party. Your not a real Dj when you go on YouTube and copy people's playlist of there mixes, your not a real Dj when you ask where to buy music from. Your not a real Dj when now all you listen is to hiphop or all house music.

^^ Pretty sure A-Trak wears skinny jeans and DJ Flipside has rocked Beats by Dre.

im sure he generalizing the scene at specifically saying this applies to all DJs. Cause I make mixes and upload them on youtube. Hell I might even take someone elses transition and do my own thing with it to kinda personalize for me.

I wasn't bieng seroiuse guys relax geeze

It's more of a combination of all those qualities...

Kinda like your girl... if she's got big feet, that's one thing, but if she's got big feet, crooked nose, a uni-brow, and a third nipple - then you got problems! But hey, she might be a good DJ.

Oh. I just see a lot of DJs see other DJs and they instantly talk shit saying they're not "real djs" just cause they're doing shit different.

Honestly what makes a good Dj is skills no matter what he is rocking on.

Your not a real DJ if your name is Paulie D #endThread

What about if it's DJ Pauly D??
Is that OK?

I'm sure most DJs do exactly this. We all learn from each other and adopt things we hear or see, then adapt our own style to them.

your not a real DJ unless you cut the sync button off your controller

if you think you are the shit.
if you can't even see your own faults.
if you care whether other people are real djs than worrying about yourself.

+1

i've been trying hard in this f!@#$k up town nd surrounding areas to book a gig for myself , I've looked on craigslist got my demo out to about 3 clubs practice my ass of for about a year man its tough rite now trying to break in. any avice

All about who you know... Get to know resident djs and maybe they need a stand in one day, assuming e heard u spin u might be a good candidate for that

keep pushing! A real DJ NEVER quits because gigs are hard to get. Keep making those cds and craigslist is ok, but in person is the BEST! People need to see your serious and you get to see the type of crowd that comes in the club. I don't prefer asking reident DJs all the time because its a threat. Your basically asking them for their job. Good Luck

And let me add... Your not a DJ if:

1] You never hustled to get a gig (First gig or better club job)
2] You never got played by a promoter/club owner for pay
3] You have NO RECORDS
4] You never made a remix and played it at a party
5] You never broke a needle from turntable use lol
6] You never got jealous of another dj in your life (Good jealously to keep you motivated!)
7] You are AFRAID to show your scratch skills in public
8] You never blew an amp (or fuse) at a bar/club (and had to replace it Lol)
9] Party people don't buy you drinks because your busy rocking the crowd!

DJ Tim is coming to your city!

@ dj tim........ when u come to my city can you drop the master mixx on us???

If you don't have a Mac. Get Back....

Did you seriously dig up this topic just do try and start more Mac vs. Windows crap?

yea i did sorry...lol lol

Windows can go eat a bowl of dicks!!

Laptop type would probably be the last thing I'd ever look at when I see another DJ.

BAM!

if you say your a dj and never had sex to music. beat match that!!!

I think most of us try to beat match our lives. It's a happy day when I find a song that my indicator in the car matches up to perfectly.

LOL Or like when the lights on car in front of you in the turn lane math your own turn signals!



That goodness the wife likes the DJ biz!

The Black One, you're my friend. Why do you keep using my name in places that do not make sense though? Is it because I use a windows laptop or is there something I do not understand?
I appreciate you spreading my name.

youre not a real dj if you use a DJ Hero controller in your music video... lol


youtu.be

lol

To Me your not a real Dj if you dont know how to change a crossfader or replaced a needle on a headshell!!!

Get the f...
...outta here...

you're not a real dj if.. u never scratched on your moms component system

& you're not a real dj if..ANY of THis Sh** applies to you!..lol

Funny story. Was doing the air scratching thing walking down the street when I was around 7. It was this huge party on my block in someone's backyard that day. Dude who was at the corner looking for people trying to find the party saw me doing that and told me to come here. He was a dj and said "Find an old fader and practice on that, it will help you out." Never found that fader and I still can't scratch. LOL

^^ "Daniel-son... show me Wax-the-Car." ^^

Have you ever played DJ Hero? It really is an excellent game and taught me a lot about how to DJ. A lot of what I learnt on my PS3 I now use on my real equipment.

Just to fuck with people I want to midi map a DJ hero controller for efx and shit in serato.

Watchwww.youtube.com

gtfoh

son of a...

if you spend more time on the forums posting than @ gigs.

doesn't play track continuously though as the platter on DJ Hero doesn't spin, but damn!

Damn, I thought it was the other way round.
Bezzle, you're demoted from superstar DJ.

I was about to say, that post was kinda personal and targetted...

if you show up to do a party wit house speakers, wit virtual dj.....lol lol lol. i have seen that shit.

The very 1st party I ever did I used my Dad's house speakers. This was way before computer DJing so I was using belt-driven TTs.

Shit, I won't lie: I brought out some Kenwood three-way speakers and a 220W Kenwood Poweramp. Damn if it didn't sound good, though (but in all fairness, it was a small room).

I had JVC's and a Yorx all-in-one acting as an amp.

Ahh, the memories...

Look a real DJ must have limitations. We all use to show up wit some lame stuff, but them days are over. You gotta rep the DJ world ta get gigs, and referrals.There is ah old saying. if can't do it rt don't do it at all. i'm just saying.

i used an old milk crate from my records once as a laptop stand lol.

I once used a milk crate for... a milk crate.

A couple of home stereos with the bass eqed out and a couple of bass guitar amps/cabinets for low end and it's on.

WOW

DOH!!!

First serato gig ever i had to use 3 paint cans as a stand. Forgot all about bringing one!!!

omg so funny

you use that piece of crap ns7, and torq.
your computer is a desk top and you use a keyboard

...you talk shit about the "piece of crap "ns7" without ever using it.
...you have no idea what the benefits of using a desktop in a home environment are.
...you don't see the benefit of using a keyboard for hotkeys and library browsing while using Serato.

I've never spun with 7" records before, I won't even let my kids learn on that toy, as for the keyboard, I use the keyboard on my lap top, not a wired keyboard connected to a PC

Disagree.

NS7 was the best all in one of its day and if the NS7II is half as good it will again be on top.

lolz at the distinction.

LOL.... just LOL.... BTW... anything made by Neumark is hot garbage

What i just stated was my opinion and i been djing for going on 20 years....

Lots of people do things for 20 years and it doesn't guarantee that there work is any good.

SMH..... just SMH....

i guess sticking with solid products made by a brand that has not let me down for the last 15 years is wrong..... (RANE,TECH,PIO)

Just because you don't like a brand or had a bad experience dosen't mean its "hot garbage". I have used and owned piles of numark gear and its great for what it is.

ok..... u ask any PRO.... and tell them to use a NEUMARK and see what they tell you...

I don't need to ask a pro. I am a pro. I know what I'm talking about.

fixed

You're NOT a REAL Dj if...

You've never spun on 7" records before

Damn, All hell just broke loose. LMAO

Have fun your neumark " pro" gear. LOL

*with

I do have fun with my Numark pro gear, a desktop which I run through to generate visuals in real time while DJing at home through Milkdrop 2 (I'm doing this with NVIDIA Tegra 2 on the road), and a wired keyboard in my coffin case.

But... thanks for proving me right, though...

you dont cry at the end of the notebook.

if you don't have haters...

co-sign

not a real DJ

I use an NS7. But it's a controller. But it uses 7" Vinyl...

I seem to be between a rock and a hard place.

(Hey, Remy, you used the NS7 at the last Jammy Jam :P)

I just got one thing to say

You not a real DJ is you didn't to bed one night and had all these different songs in your head and got up right away and started mixing some ISH that you never thought about before in your life.

I be writing that shit down in my notes on my phone then I try it when I get around to it next.

I either do that, or I keep a notepad in the cupholder in my car- usually for if I hear a track on the radio that I want to do something with, I can quickly write it down.

^^ TRUE ^^

forget the notepad download shazaam on your phone. You hear a song you like just tag it and it keeps organized by date within the app so you can go back. i have tags from 2 years ago still

word

I do that a lot of the time (did it yesterday in fact)- My problem is I like to mess around with my phone and constantly change things which a lot of the times means deleting all the information like that.

Titanium Backup and Restore.

You're not a real Dj if you dont know what EDM stands for

Seriously, one time I struck up a chat with a mobile "DeeJay" (He doesn't deserve the title Dj) who asked me if EDM was a drug

EDM is one hulluva drug...

Hell, half the peeps I talk to don't even know what DJ stands for!

Im on four edms right now lol

Doing job?

Damn dude you better be careful, too much EDM at once may cause an eargasm

it wasn't until i moved to NC that i had ever even heard of EDM yet i had already played many raves. we never called it that. it was just house, or dnb, trance, jungle or whatever.
edm and one word incorporating so many genres seems silly to me. if anyone ever asked i would never say "i play edm."


you are not a real dj if you are tone deaf...or maybe you are but you just really suck!!

Hell yeah I'm from Charlotte NC too!
Your profile pic is deceiving though, I thought you was a hot babe :(

I've noticed on soundcloud lately- heaps of people put a photo of a random hot girl as their track cover. Figure it probably gets the track quite a bit more attention than it would otherwise.

Sex sells!

oh sorry.

there, now i am jesus.

We already have one of those.

agree

your not a dj if you spell numark "neumark". TWICE!

^ good one ^

and CAPITALIZE it at that....

your not a dj if during one of your sets i hear your txt msg ring tone. lol i heard this twice

and if you have owned a numark product, y spell it like that (neumark)? just saying.

I wouldn't call myself a "real DJ" if I used this either en.wikipedia.org

you are not a real dj if i hear a transition in one of your sets and your just fist pumping lol

you aren't a real dj unless you have an Ed Hardy shirt, hair gel and spiky hair.

You're not a real DJ:

1. if you don't know how to beat match(mix) and make it sound clean on two turntables and a mixer without using a laptop with digital Dj'ing software. Regardless of the type of music you spin.

2. If you don't know how to scratch on the 1's & 2's, and a mixer without using any laptop with Digital Dj'ing software. The challenge was to make it sound clean without the needle skipping all over the place.

YAWN!!

You aren't a real dj if in 2015, you're still going on about what constitutes being a real dj instead of just showing others what real DJing is about.

Word.

Did we really need a revival of this thread 2 years late?

You're not a real DJ if you revive a 2 year old thread....with these comments.

Well I have a legit #youdjsobad post

You DJ so bad you have a girl a seizure. Legit Martin atomic store shut the school dance down.

How about you aren't a real DJ if you refer to 2015 like the year just started. :-P

I would let you edit your post but you can't.

You aren't a real message board if you can't edit your posts this late in 2015. lol

________________________________________
Bragging rights for life bitch! 😂😂😂😂😂😂
serato.com

nm

:)

If you say, "I can only DJ with 1200s because they are the industry standard".

.....crickets

i am going to go off on a lot of thoughts here...




i mean really who fking cares what a real dj is anymore?!?
the whole Dj world is just full of bullshit, from celebrity djs that are wannabes to taco bell djs at wmc, to some guy that just bought an ipad.

i just watched Craze, who we all know is a dope dj...more than half his set was finger drumming, and then scratching, and juggling. BUT absolutely no where was beatmatching. not one track did he have to adjust pitch...
i can tell you that i have beatmatched TWICE since getting serato in 2004ish. TEN years and i have beatmatched only twice. i match lines on a screen NOT beats. i guess i am not a dj or real and idc.

finger drumming apparently that's now a part of djing. at this point djing would have to include turntablism AND controllerism.
so to be a REAL dj you have to keep up with technology AND have skills in the past.
just matching beats and scratching isn't enough...


i know this is a light hearted thread but when i see people still following the ancient, tired, the world is flat philosophy of djing equals turntables, scratching, beat matching, i can't let it stand.

there are so few REAL Djs because djing is soooo many things now.
so what happens in 100 years or as little as 50 when no one is left that can use turntables?
i guess they will go out like the samurai.



but let me tell you my story and how i became a "dj"...
about 20 years ago, i learned to play hiphop and house. i spent hours and hours learning to match beats. i mean weeks turned to months before i could play out. then i played a shload of raves and clubs. i THOUGHT i was a dj.
then turntablism hit me which lead to learning the history of djing especially on the hip hop and b-boy side. i started buying those original tracks.
let me tell you attempting to play ONLY a 15 second part of an old drum break so people can dance to it is not an easy thing...learning to play the way djs did before a whole song could be played was very humbling. that shit does not mix on the one and does not hold a steady beat and vocals are a nightmore. i quickly found there were dozens to hundreds of different types techniques i had to learn.

so after playing many an event, getting paid a lot of money i found that i was NOT a Dj.
it took my another 10 years of playing and mastering many genres to finally think "i might be a dj now."

but now after seeing what Djing has become, i wonder am i a Dj anymore?
or just a guy that plays music?

there is too muchh to djing that people don't know...
i can throw out my opinion like "unless you have placed tape on the exact thread of a record so the needle jumps to a break you aren't a real dj. unless you can skip back one thread perfectly on a record to create a loop you aren't a real dj. unless you understand tonearm height and how it affects scratching or what toeing-in a needle can do." but i'd be wrong.
i will leave with
...if you don't know what that L shaped white piece of plastic that came with technics is for or how to use it, you aren't a real dj.



the real djs won't be around in a few years.
the art and knowledge is being lost to technology and ignorance.

If...you have time to visit these forums more than 2x a day!

Answer: Real djs

In my opinion, what makes a DJ is,

A) Music knowledge
B) The ability to match the beats of two records/songs manually or utilizing the pitch
C) The ability to blend songs seamlessly and fluidly
D) If not mixing then the understanding to "drop" songs in that make sense or fit the present vibe.
E) The knowledge, wisdom and understanding to know what to play to keep the majority of the people/patrons happy/dancing.

Others' opinion may differ mildly or greatly but that pretty much is what I go by before labeling a person a DJ.

Be One With The Force.

if you play one song after another for people or the radio you are a dj.

So anyone with an ipod and an aux cord in a car?

Yup - you got it! :)

thats a cdj technically but the term is too closely related to pioneer cd players so it been termed auxdj

i seriously saw a guy dj in the bathroom at a club recently...he was keeping it real!!

there was a legendary club in my area that had djs in the bathrooms, but the bathrooms were unisex and like the size of small bars.

I'd say when I go to mainstream clubs and lounges, 75% of the DJs I see play the same music and aren't doing anything except the most basic mixing on a given night. It's only a matter of time until Spotify party or the next automated DJ app takes over much of that market. One club manager or "host" can select the mood and style of music mixed, dial up or down the tempo and also control the length of how long each song is played before mixing into the next one. If I were designing the software, I'd also have each song categorized into a weekly adjusted scale of popularity so it could hold the current bangers until the peak hours. No purchase or maintenance on CDJs, Mixers, turntables and you save thousands each week on talent. People can tweet requests or post them on social media pages generating traffic and making the club experience more interactive.

It's up to the DJ community to keep the level of quality up so that customers demand to have a live DJ play at the venue. $$$$ will always be the deciding factor for management and, unless they will lose the crowd to the club across the street that pays a live DJ to perform, I can't see them continuing with the current structure as software continues to improve and offer a cheaper and easier alternative. There will always be a niche market for turntablists and "real DJs" but unless you're famous (for any reason), produce music or draw a few hundred to a club to specifically watch you play, it's going to be a difficult future.

Hey, DJ Goodfoot.... "Real DJs" don't walk around wearing their headphones. Nor do they take pictures wearing them either.....unless, of course, you are behind the decks. In that case, there is no getting around it. ;-)

By the way, in case it wasn't apparent, that was a joke.
No need to get your cables in a twist ;-)

Huh. Eventually digital djs might just tech themselves out of existence. And mainstream djs might mainstream themselves out of existence. If the definition of DJ includes unique selecting and physical mixing then it can't be replaced.

Haha, guilty. Acceptable exception is when you get the headphones for free from a corporate rep and as a courtesy take some shots wearing them. I get a pass for this one...

not true.

maybe but the heads that come out to dance/vibe to a DJ spinning funk 45s aren't gonna be happy with a computer mixing mainstream mp3s, but a crowd at a spot with a computer dj playing current hits probly wouldn't know/care if the dj was replaced.

of course the 50-100 heads that go to a funk 45 event aren't really statistically relevant to the dj equipment industry...

people dont care if you mix, just the material that is played. i could set up 10 hrs of funk 45s to play, even time amounts for 1 drop breakdowns, that would be fine.

right now most owners/gms just dont take the time or spend money to do that.

sooner or later i feel that this will be an option(ie precise playlist compilation by djs with set mix points) that club owners will choose because it will be cheaper.

if you just cut down djs by lets say 200$ per week you save 10k . thats a nice vacation for 2. or 4. or your whole staff if you dont go too crazy.

If you don't pay the electric bill, you could save thousands too! Imagine the profit margin for your club. Talk about a nice vacation...

electricity is needed at every bar and club, djs arent.

i3.kym-cdn.com

Technically according to y'all, you would never know that situation existed....

























You'd have the cables covered or hidden....

My cables get twisted up long before the front board goes up

/End Thread....

For another 2 years..

it's called Serato Pyro...

Are you only ketchuping on this thread now

yea

not the crowd wants to hear anything different on a normal club night so its double edge sword

Where?

I'm sure this has been stated 20x or more but I didn't read them all.

But you're not a real DJ if you don't own a pair of turntables or plan on owning a set. No excuses and I don't care how fucking good you're on a controller. Don't disrespect the culture

And that comment proves 2 things. #1 your not a real DJ and #2 you might be a tool.


#3 clearly you know nothing and have no respect for the culture

prob wouldnt hurt to have one turntable and a couple records.

So you don't actually need to be able to -use- them... you just have to own or plan to own them.

Sounds way easier than practicing.

Not saying I don't own a couple hundred records, or have owned turntables in the past.


His logic is as solid as his skills. Bahahaha.

DTweed You could even be a nice guy, but expand your horizons. Good talented DJ's have many tools. There's more than one way to skin a cat.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion so I'm not offended but instead of insulting mine how about you enlighten me or better yet all the new djs coming into the fold.

As for my statement to clarify I'm all for technology, shit I have a few controllers, cdjs and turntables. I fucks with abelton mixtape and all those things. My point is a lot of djs coming in don't learn the foundations of djing they don't use the technology to enhance their performance they use it as a crutch and a short cut. Then when they're in a situation out of their element they crash and burn because they don't know how to mix properly cause they didn't learn right. Turntables r a definite part of that foundation which is why it should be amongst one of the pieces you own not necessarily the only. You can mix on turntables you can mix on anything

As for the comment about owning turntables and not practicing or using em that's just plain ignorant but I guess yesterday was a slow day O_O

^ Part of the problem is the grind, music is easily accessible and doesn't cost like it used to.

I feel there is becoming a lack of appreciation for having skills and having to build.

I feel like you should know about the turntable culture before you call yourself a DJ because thats where it started from. Im not saying everyone should be a turntablist but you should know your history and not just be some USB freak with no appreciation for the art and the many people who grinded so you could have a USB stick with sync, fx, and so on.

Well... you did say "or planning to own"... kinda hard to practice or know how to use 'em if you don't even own 'em yet :).

Gotta be super-clear with your words around these parts...

Lol i see your point. I was responding on my phone and trying to keep it short but next time I'll clean it up.

I agree with this 100%

I don't care what a real DJ is but the idea that a DJ could walk past some records and not even want to flip through them (on the street, thrift, friend's uncle's basement etc) is sad but y'all do yer thing.

What for? they don't own turntables O_O .... I feel you though. I get some of it is a generation gap but I was born in 1976 but I probably know more about music from the 70s/80s when I was a kid better than I do today and that's because i respect the progression of music as a whole to go back and know my history.

On the flip side there is positive experiences to that lack of experience.

I have a lot of newer DJ's interested in turntables and wanting to buy turntables that started off on controllers.

They want to collect records, etc.

So I don't think it's lost. People get what they can afford, it is what it is.

But I think the love of vinyl and turntables is very much alive. At least where I'm from it is.

Our record store that opened in 1991 is still alive and vibrant today. It's where I started my collection and we'll be doing 25th Anniversary in September this year.

i wonder if djs in the 80s told young guys they should play on 45 yr old equipment and know all the dance hits of the 40s, 50s, 60s.

they're probably were. and they were probably as lame as the ones that do it now.

vinyl is in its swan song, its a nice thing.

but its not gonna last more than a 3-5 more years. just wait.

It's lasted this WHOLE time, it's not going anywhere.

It might not be mainstream but it's not going anywhere.

its not going anywhere, its just at its zenith in this comeback.

i personally have records and still play from time to time at the house.

i just dont see this hipster vinyl thing going to far and the general music buyer of vinyl is aging hence dying.

digital music makes more sense in a variety of ways, but almost everything comes down to money. vinyl is just a more expensive and less portable, hence my prediction that its around but it will go back to its consumer level of irrelevance.

I see where you're going but it just doesn't apply.

Disc Jockey thing started with vinyl and in many cases still is the way to "DJ".

As a matter of fact, there are really well known DJs that only play on wax. Many releases that are only pressed on wax.

''As a matter of fact, there are really well known DJs that only play on wax. Many releases that are only pressed on wax.''

you could say that about digital as well.

and even in any of the current realm of djs that do use wax, which is house and techno, there are probably 500 djs for ever 1 that uses vinyl only and 10000 to 1 that only have vinyl releases. Id also say that the majority of those users is over 30 probably 35 tbh.

of course i have to issue the statement, i know there are younger djs using vinyl, there are some techno guys in my area that use it regularly, and they draw about 40 ppl tops ever to their gigs and literally no one else in the area uses vinyl(top 10 population city, top 5 metro area)

im positive that number is higher in nyc, chi, la, sf and mia, but thats 4 cities out of a lot of cities in the u.s.

Man... so much time is wasted on these debates. End of day, use what you want.

for sure. but we are debating. so thats kinda what you do. waste time.

Haha true^^^

That is the point of a debate after all. Not like we ever really come to a conclusion. I'm at work so this is helping me go through my day.

im done running errands and have a dj gig later so...

its serato forum, cue points set, crates loaded and door open for the best winter ever so far(its 60 and been ridiculously warm this winter)

you dj for any reason other than getting girls.

False. I have a girlfriend for over 4 years (who didn't even know I was a DJ when we met) and I'm pretty confident that I could mix circles around 75% of this forum. So that's pretty inaccurate. I DJ for the love of DJing, controlling and satisfying the crowd, and being 21 years old I still love the pound of a nice bass kick. I've actually never been approached or desired by girls because I'm a DJ lol

So you can mix circles around 75% of us huh? Interesting.

Mixing is boring yawn lol. Now let's see him do some mother f'ing chirps

I'm confident that I can

Touché been working on my chirps. Im certainly not the one that's ruining he song with baby scratches lol but I'm not a turntablist

You're not a real DJ if you don't respect the craft and the culture. /thread

Just sayin'

I know there are a few people holding back on comments. LOL. Or maybe they haven't seen it yet...

LMAO

if you take this cereals.

on serious note, i find most djs don't even know the history of the culture and never even try to embrace what djs had to do in the past.

imo everyone should learn history and try to play the way people did long ago.
for instance, after many years of playing house and hip hop i studied what others did then went out and bought the original "breaks" tracks. then tried to mix and double those tracks. it was a major pain in the ass and i had to toss out almost everything instinct i knew (except beat matching). that type of mixing is so non-linear. you can't always drop on the one. vocals come at weird times. sometimes you can't cut out on the at the end of a measure, it has to extend one or two more beats. you need to learn to put tape on the EXACT thread. there's no time for headphones when extending a 15 second break or a cut. there's no time for putting records back in sleeves...it was easily the most difficult djing i have ever done. it gave me a new outlook on things. it changed me completely. i was a new person and dj.



i am not going to preach what a real dj is. i am not going to belittle those that have never held a record or touched a 1200. it only reinforces the divide.

my point is; it helps to try what your predecessors did. you may find a new respect for them. and it could change your life.

that's a pretty bold statement that would put you in the upper 4th of djs around here (or maybe anywhere).


now you can take this one of 2 ways; get but hurt and mad or constructive.

I just heard your july 2015 mix (up to about the 5th mix). the mix from track 2-3 was not great and from 3-4 was just plain odd. i think i heard vocal clash. idk maybe i am wrong there and it's the track. if so delete that track.

if this is what the upper 25% tier of what djs sound like, they need a some improvement.

Fair enough that was a while ago that i made that mix up and posted it. We ALL grow and learn every day and i know that since then i've improved greatly my mixing skills.
Also i didn't mean strictly mixing two songs together. perhaps i should have wrote that i can DJ circles round 75% of this forum. DJ in the verb form meaning i can perform all aspects of a DJ's job better than most, which aren't just technical mixing skills, but more of what makes a DJ good from a non DJ point of view. such a song selection for the specific crowd, adapting to crowds and what they like, even if its not a genre you're experienced in (or can't even read the song names lol) transitioning from one genre to another, and entertaining and catering to the crowd, not just pre-made (and god forbid Pre-recorded) crates and mixes just slapped together to make a set. Sure i recorded a mix from a year ago and slapped it together to put it on the internet and it sounded like asscheeks (we've all been there) but a single mix isn't a true example of what skills a professional DJ has, other than technical skill.
Sorry for my mis-wording in the original post.

I'm all for comments i wanna see them

21 years old and already 8 years of professional experience. thats more than most "DJs" these days have.

Cool story bro. You were a professional DJ at 13 years old.

DJing parties for a company i still work for at 13 years old, and getting paid for it.
so yes professional.

how's this:

You're not a real DJ if your here feeding into my BS and not out booking yourself gigs or practicing!

You're the man then. 75% of us are just noobs. Even though when I started you were like 3 years old.

i figured as much. noob

ah the glory of 21. wait til 25, you'll really think you're killing it.

i'm 21 and i know everything. obviously

I turn 25 this September. I'll be killing it, then........right? Right?

haha I like that one

LMAO! At a "real" company hiring a "DJ" @ 13 years old....

Then again, Winamp was pretty powerful back then....