If it’s not affordable then no it’s more like a closed casket⚰️

yer we need to put the 1200 turntable to rest its like digging your dead grandpa up every year just to touch em up and make him look good, way too over priced for an old school tool for spinning vinyl. whats wrong with the old model lol.

The technology that went into this new mk7 is pretty neat and for me it’s the +16/double pitch speeds, detachable RCA’s & the LED Strobe can change red/blue. The M5G’s of course had the ext pitch but that’s not the kind of Technics I have. I’d sell mine for these in a heartbeat.

haha yes all this new tech....

my guess is that this turntable was released to recoup the losses and R&D cost that Panasonic incurred from the grandmaster turntable

Agreed. That was destined to be a huge miscalculation.

Apparently this newer Tech 1200 is specifically aimed at DJs and have not been priced yet. But I agree, if they get to greedy this will be a flop for sure.

Looks like Reloop just clapped back with an RP 8000 Mk2 at $699 youtu.be

now were talking incorporating new school with old school and fairly priced

And they still didnt implement hid control into the spindle which would make it the best turntable ever

have you guys seen reloops version of a s9? i literally thought it was a s9 in between the tts

It's the same 1200 it's always been, it was nailed back in the late 80s. Minor changes you'll never realize are there on this one... more or less just reselling for the guys that never got to get Technics back in the 90s.

Great Article from Mark Settle

djworx.com

RP8000MK2 is great but a toy for serato and no choice for people who just want to play a fuckin vinyl and more

my opinion:

If Technics brings out a new turntable pushes the market 1000x more than a button player from Reloop

a comparison annoys

The fact that you can use the buttons to shift the pitch on the 8000 for straight vinyl makes it more than a pure serato deck.

oh shit, thats dope

Records. They're called records. No one plays "a vinyl".

they are called "vinyls"
its official

Bollocks

Couple of vinyls, a little linoleum, and you've got yourself a party.

dont u mean 'Bollock'?

Lol!

vinyl
/ˈvʌɪn(ə)l/
noun
plural noun: vinyls

1.
synthetic resin or plastic consisting of polyvinyl chloride or a related polymer, used for wallpapers and other covering materials and for gramophone records.
"the vinyl is cut to size with a craft knife"

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record
noun
noun: record; plural noun: records
/ˈrɛkɔːd/

1.
a thin plastic disc carrying recorded sound in grooves on each surface, for reproduction by a record player.
"I'm listening to records in my room"
synonyms: album; More
vinyl;
tape, cassette, disc, compact disc, CD;
recording, release;
datedgramophone record, LP, long-player, single, forty-five, twelve-inch (single), EP (extended-play);
seventy-eight, 78;
datedblack disc;
datedphonograph record
"I spent a lot of time listening to records"
a piece or collection of music reproduced on a record or on another medium.
"my favourite record"
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vinyl
noun [ U ] UK ​ /ˈvaɪ.nəl/ US ​ /ˈvaɪ.nəl/
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strong plastic that can be bent, used for making floor coverings, furniture, clothing, etc., or (especially in the past) records: records, as a way of recording and listening to music.

dictionary.cambridge.org

en.oxforddictionaries.com

vinyl
NOUN
1. mass noun Synthetic resin or plastic consisting of polyvinyl chloride or a related polymer, used for wallpapers and other covering materials and for gramophone records.

‘the vinyl is cut to size with a craft knife’
as modifier ‘vinyl floor tiles’

1.1 Vinyl used as the standard material for records.
‘fans had to wait almost a year before the song eventually appeared on vinyl’
as modifier ‘sales of vinyl recordings’

1.2 count noun A vinyl record.
‘he had plenty of tapes and vinyls’

2. Chemistry
as modifier Of or denoting the unsaturated hydrocarbon radical —CH=CH₂, derived from ethylene by removal of a hydrogen atom.

‘a vinyl group’

bonus marks for the citation of your source ;)

i read citations too, how bout this?



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vinyl
noun [ U ] UK ​ /ˈvaɪ.nəl/ US ​ /ˈvaɪ.nəl/
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strong plastic that can be bent, used for making floor coverings, furniture, clothing, etc., or (especially in the past) records

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records, as a way of recording and listening to music:

Today's music lovers growing up with iPods may never know the sound of vinyl.
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vinyl
noun [ U ] US ​ /ˈvɑɪ·nəl/
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strong plastic that can be bent and that is used to make floors, furniture, clothing, etc.:

vinyl flooring/upholstery
a vinyl raincoat

(Definition of “vinyl” from the Cambridge Academic Content Dictionary © Cambridge University Press)

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He was an avid rock fan with a large collection of vinyls.
From Wikipedia
The variant is a different version of one of the vinyls in the series.
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The vinyls from the master sources are thereby highly sought out by preservationist and collectors.
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The 12 vinyl's artwork was also different and featured a close up view of a ballerina sitting and holding a teddy bear on the ground.
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The colours still remain on network maps but the vinyls for the most part have disappeared from the fleet's vehicles.
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The record stores that participated in the event received limited edition vinyls.
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His ways of bending the lines between art, photography and nature in his large format vinyls, photographs, installations and photo performances are considered highly innovative.
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By mid-decade, four-doors as well as coupes could be topped with a number of colorful vinyls.
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The vinyl's cover was taken from the same photoshoot as the album's was.
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Their means of transportation was usually public buses, with mixers and turntables under their arms, and vinyls and minidiscs in backpacks.
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Vinyl's lower surface noise level than shellac was not forgotten, nor was its durability.
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long texts indented short texts quoted and titles italicized​​ or i dock ur 69 percent next time

thats fine, I got lazy because you cited a page which quotes "vinyls" half a duzen times.

I say "vinyls" just to annoy people like I was the first time I heard it anyways -lol

they quoted Wikipedia definitely got a F-

nah, wikipedia might not be a usable source citation for a college paper. It is certainly usable for examples of language usage.
A+
(otherwise your argument is with the Cambridge dictionary, not me.

thats what i was hinting @ lol

lol aight.

$1200 USD. Think any online retailers will have 10-15% off or pre order discount? Thoughts🤔

Price is actually the same as the original release price if you adjust for inflation.

youtu.be

Oscillation pitch bpm on serato

Yea it's funny they claim this new motor design gets rid of cogging but then you look at the specs and one of them shows cogging.

That’s amazing it’s barely drifting the bpm. My old mk5’s are not as spot on as this. Hrmmm May just sell my old decks.

I've the 0.1\0.2 bpm oscillation on my MK2s..at least they are 27 years old!..so,i don't know if there's a tt that not have a little oscillation because of the records..with Phase probably there's no bpm fluctuation?

They nailed it with the MK2, then progressively worsened from there

sl-1210 mk5 dish recently bought and in good condition, the same problem oscillation bpm

Since when is this a problem? Turn on anti drift in serato and watch all fluctuations disappear if you're that anal about it

This happens in every turntable - it’s worse on non technics.

fortunately I have a couple of unused mk5 tones, I will try it, I mention this because in a black mk2 it did not happen to me, that's why I find it strange

I have Mk2 turntables, which I have owned for over 20 years, and the BPM fluctuates slightly on mine.
I assumed this was due to them being poorly set-up (I recently moved all my kit and haven't yet got around to recalibrating everything) and more than likely in need of a professional service.
If people are saying slight fluctuations in BPM is normal, then I'll save myself some cash and won't bother with the service.

Wow and flutter are a standard thing with all turntables.

Technics has industry low levels of wow and flutter compared to the hanpin and denon offerings too.

If it bothers you, just turn on the anti drift feature in the settings.

With anti frift it stops but not instantly

Just got my pair and this is driving me nuts!

"Upgraded" from a pair of MK5s and never experienced this sort of oscillation. I usually do long blends with my music and would occasionally have to move the pitch slider. Now my hand is constantly on the pitch slider making adjustments to compensate. Even with pitch reset on and anti-drift, the playing track is oscillating between .01 and .03 slower and faster... is this expected behavior due to the digital pitch on these newer models?

I thought the motor was supposed to be improved? The pitch seems waaaaay less stable now compared to my MK5s.

I ended up sending Technics a support inquiry. Let's see what they get back to me with.

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Acabo de recibir mi par y esto me está volviendo loco! </font></font>
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"Mejorado" de un par de MK5 y nunca experimenté este tipo de oscilación. </font><font style="vertical-align: inherit;">Por lo general hago mezclas largas con mi música y ocasionalmente tengo que mover el control deslizante de tono. </font><font style="vertical-align: inherit;">Ahora mi mano está constantemente en el control deslizante de tono haciendo ajustes para compensar. </font><font style="vertical-align: inherit;">Incluso con el reinicio de tono activado y anti-deriva, la pista en reproducción oscila entre .01 y .03 más lenta y más rápida ... ¿este comportamiento esperado se debe al tono digital en estos modelos más nuevos? </font></font>
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¿Pensé que el motor debía ser mejorado? </font><font style="vertical-align: inherit;">El tono parece ser menos estable ahora en comparación con mis MK5. </font></font>
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Terminé enviando a Technics una consulta de soporte. </font><font style="vertical-align: inherit;">Vamos a ver con qué me devuelven.
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in my mk2 I never step now with an mk5 yes, I'm testing the cdj1000mk3 and the pitch is perfect

I am currently using an mk5 technics and a rp8000 reloop and I am quite happy, but the bpm swing is still happening, you must wait a few seconds until it stops, although one ends getting used to it, when I remember my mk2..uff that was perfect

is your anti drift enabled in settings?

Dj Julio
I have to correct, it is not the bpm but the tenths that oscillates, and if the anti drift is enabled