There is already an echo out fx

Thats not echo out lol thats echo distorted fx or even i think distorted echo

Lol it should be called "trainwreck fx" cause it's so horribly out of time.

And if you activate that fx, it will keep going until it distorts itself out completely. So not really a one time echo, more of a 5-10 time echo depending on your wet/dry.

Imagine if Serato open-sourced FX. That'd open a whole new world of interesting things you could apply to your music.

I've never had any issues with Echo Out's timing. It's perfectly in-beat every single time. Sounds like an issue with your equipment.

Def not the echo out has always been distorted in SDJ. I’ve used SL3, SB2, S9 and SR2 and the echo out sounds fine for the most part it is random when you hear the distortion it is not all the time.

Prior to using my DJM-S9 and Serato, I was using a Behringer DDM-4000 and VirtualDJ. The Behringer came out in like 2007 and still has better sounding effects than Serato and the S9. Serato really needs to improve the quality of their FX.

Blame izotope it’s their fx.

True, but Serato has the contract w/Izotope, and many users aren't aware it's Izotope under the hood. Regardless, it needs a lot of improvement.

Very bizarre as izotope has some great sound stuff.

They definitely do. It's as if Serato said to Izotope "do you have any FX that sounds like a pile of shit? You do?? Awesome! We would like to make it the only FX option in our software."

calling bs on this

Call what you want, it just sounds better to me. Higher quality reverb and phaser for sure.

I use reverb at the same time to obfuscate the distortion.

Timing is fine. To the poster who experienced bad timing. Check your parameters. I’m on 1 beat. No issues with that .

By one time, do you mean that you don’t have to disengage the effect, it does this automatically? That would be cool, as when I’m quick mixing I sometimes forget to turn the effect off. The red effects light on my SP-1 helps.

so serato efx (in SDJ) and the Pioneer S9 efx are both less quality than the berhinger?

As I still use the DDM 4000 I can say it is way better than the Serato efx. Clean, clear, no distortion. I can't confirm the S9.

s9 efx are pretty good imo. you can even combine 2 efx if you change the filter knob.

i cant imagine a $300 beheringer from '08 having better efx than a S9, but i could be wrong.

The Pioneer fx are awesome the izotope fx are shit.

It is one of the best things Behringer ever did. Going on 10 years old and zero issues. Everything in perfect working order and sounds great. Biggest ROI any piece of gear I ever owned.

i had a friend that had one but his was kinda wrecked so i never really played on it, just listened to tunes thru it.

I bought my S9 3 months ago. Prior to that I used the DDM4000 for about 2 years, and I think I paid $400 for it. The 4000 packs a lot of punch for that price. I also still have and occasionally use a Behringer console mixer I bought in 2000 that has builtin FX that were really good at the time but are pretty much useless now.

I love the FX toggles on the S9 but vinyl brake and backspin are the only 2 quality FX out of 6.

Think you should check out the Pioneer utility you can change all sorts of fx. My fav is echo out and reverb as far as the custom fx goes.

What's the Pioneer Utility? You can change a few things via the tiny display on the S9 itself. Is there a Mac app?

the utility can be accessed through the Pioneer folder in your apps

@11:00 min he mentions the utility. Get to learn the mixer there’s a lot it can do you’re not aware of yet. youtu.be

I'll do that. I have seen parts of that video but not the whole thing. Thanks for the help.