My first Weekend with the Roland DJ-808

Chino 5:13 PM - 4 April, 2017

I was lucky enough to find a local DJ selling his mint condition Roland DJ-808 for less money than I sold my old controller for. Needless to say, I bought it. That was 5 days ago. Yes, I really wanted to write this review earlier but in-depth testing needed to be done first. That being said, I will concentrate this review on three main topics… layout/build quality, features/ performance, & overall impressions.

The roland DJ-808 has adopted the standard SDJ layout of a 4 channel controller with 2 decent sized jog wheels. It is unique due to the integrated drum machine and voice transformer. Roland chose a mirrored layout that works well. I particularly like that the 100mm pitch faders are situated slightly above the jog wheels so DJs don't accidentally hit them while scratching. All the buttons, knobs and faders feel solid and very responsive. The knobs themselves are of the rubberized variety which I like. I was impressed with Roland's overall attention to small design details. One example of this are all the shift functions that are highlighted in white throughout the controller. Another example (if you look closely) is that the jog wheels themselves have vinyl grooves in them. The Roland DJ-808 is made up of a mixture of metal and plastic. The top plate is metal and extends down to the left & right hand side of the controller. The base, front and rear portion of the DJ-808 is made of a durable plastic. This cuts down on the weight of the unit which is only 15 pounds. Overall, the Roland DJ-808 is a beautifully designed controller that commands respect.

The only thing more impressive than the feature set of the Roland DJ-808 is how well it all integrates together! I literally spent hours each day playing with the drum machine which operates completely standalone (thanks to an integrated standalone mixer). There are 16 patters that can be saved and played live. You can also record and save your own patterns and integrate sample sounds from the SDJ sampler.

My 10 year old son officially tested out the voice transformer for me. That lasted for about a half hour because I couldn't take any more of his singing in a robot voice!(lol). Another feature that I absolutely love about the DJ-808 are the platters. I'm not the type of person that buys into marketing hype. Roland said that the DJ-808 has the "lowest latency platters of any DJ controller available". I was skeptical. Let me be the first to say that I was wrong! I was completely blown away by how ULTRA responsive the platters are!! Please don't take my word for it. Go and test them out for yourself. Now it's time to talk about the sound quality of the DJ-808. In a word, AWESOME! There very few controllers that can even come close to the DJ-808's level of crystal clear, punchy sound. I have attached a link below to the DJ-808's spec sheet:

www.roland.com

If I had to describe the Roland DJ-808 with one word- it would be FUN! It's been a very long time since I played around with music simply for the pure joy & pleasure that it brings. I don't know how Roland did it but they definitely sprinkled some pure "Roland magic" into this controller! The Roland DJ-808 is an innovative controller designed for creative DJs looking to add live remixing/music production into their sets. It has performed PERFECTLY with SDJ. To put it plainly … the Roland DJ-808 works great right out of the box. The overall drum machine intergration/controller user experience is EXCELLENT!!

I look forward to hearing from other DJ-808 owners/users. Please feel free to post any questions, feature suggestions and/or hardware/software improvements on this thread.

938MyDJ 8:44 PM - 4 April, 2017

I'm glad you your liking your unit too!

I have all the other AIRA devices that I wanted and needed to go with my 808 and it's super fun to play.

DJKayce 8:54 PM - 4 April, 2017

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I was lucky enough to find a local DJ selling his mint condition Roland DJ-808 for less money than I sold my old controller for. Needless to say, I bought it. That was 5 days ago. Yes, I really wanted to write this review earlier but in-depth testing needed to be done first. That being said, I will concentrate this review on three main topics… layout/build quality, features/ performance, & overall impressions.

The roland DJ-808 has adopted the standard SDJ layout of a 4 channel controller with 2 decent sized jog wheels. It is unique due to the integrated drum machine and voice transformer. Roland chose a mirrored layout that works well. I particularly like that the 100mm pitch faders are situated slightly above the jog wheels so DJs don't accidentally hit them while scratching. All the buttons, knobs and faders feel solid and very responsive. The knobs themselves are of the rubberized variety which I like. I was impressed with Roland's overall
attention to small design details. One example of this are all the shift functions that are highlighted in white throughout the controller. Another example (if you look closely) is that the jog wheels themselves have vinyl grooves in them. The Roland DJ-808 is made up of a mixture of metal and plastic. The top plate is metal and extends down to the left & right hand side of the controller. The base, front and rear portion of the DJ-808 is made of a durable plastic. This cuts down on the weight of the unit which is only 15 pounds. Overall, the Roland DJ-808 is a beautifully designed controller that commands respect.

The only thing more impressive than the feature set of the Roland DJ-808 is how well it all integrates together! I literally spent hours each day playing with the drum machine which operates completely standalone (thanks to an integrated standalone mixer). There are 16 patters that can be saved and played live. You can also record and save your own patterns and integrate sample sounds from the SDJ sampler.

My 10 year old son officially tested out the voice transformer for me. That lasted for about a half hour because I couldn't take any more of his singing in a robot voice!(lol). Another feature that I absolutely love about the DJ-808 are the platters. I'm not the type of person that buys into marketing hype. Roland said that the DJ-808 has the "lowest latency platters of any DJ controller available". I was skeptical. Let me be the first to say that I was wrong! I was completely blown away by how ULTRA responsive the platters are!! Please don't take my word for it. Go and test them out for yourself. Now it's time to talk about the sound quality of the DJ-808. In a word, AWESOME! There very few controllers that can even come close to the DJ-808's level of crystal clear, punchy sound. I have attached a link below to the DJ-808's spec sheet:

www.roland.com

If I had to describe the Roland DJ-808 with one word- it would be FUN! It's been a very long time since I played around with music simply for the pure joy & pleasure that it brings. I don't know how Roland did it but they definitely sprinkled some pure "Roland magic" into this controller! The Roland DJ-808 is an innovative controller designed for creative DJs looking to add live remixing/music production into their sets. It has performed PERFECTLY with SDJ. To put it plainly … the Roland DJ-808 works great right out of the box. The overall drum machine intergration/controller user experience is EXCELLENT!!

I look forward to hearing from other DJ-808 owners/users. Please feel free to post any questions, feature suggestions and/or hardware/software improvements on this thread.

@ Chino, nice review. Am sold.

DJKayce 8:59 PM - 4 April, 2017

Oh I forgot to ask about the cue headphone volume? Some claimed that its too low unless you maxed out the volume. Is this true? Or how's the overall headphone vol compare to denon controllers?

Chino 9:17 PM - 4 April, 2017

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Oh I forgot to ask about the cue headphone volume? Some claimed that its too low unless you maxed out the volume. Is this true? Or how's the overall headphone vol compare to denon controllers?

I did notice that too. The headphone output is lower than my MCx8000 was. I know you also have a Denon Mc6000mk2. I usually keep my volume around 11o'clock on my Denon. On the Roland DJ-808 I have to put it at 1 o'clock to achieve the same volume level. Maybe a future firmware update can improve this?

The Master & Booth outputs are noticeable louder, & clearer than either Denon, or any Pioneer controllers that I have used or tested!

938MyDJ 10:00 PM - 4 April, 2017

if you lower the overall attenuation one step lower from the default settings, that will give you room to play with deck gains at around 11 o'clock and that will give you a little bit more volume on the headphones.

And that's just a workaround.
I still wish this can be updated via new firmware.

AIRA products gets updated consistenly so I believe the 808 will too.

Chino 10:23 PM - 4 April, 2017

^^^ Great suggestions! I adjusted the Master output attenuator level to -3. It does help. Page 22 of the manual ('SYSTEM SETTINGS') is a life saver!

It's crazy the kind of things you can learn about a product just by reading the manual! ; )

DJKayce 10:40 PM - 4 April, 2017

Thanks Guys for the clarifications. Yes am still rocking my MC6000MK2 but i just want this 808 bcos of the features packed in it. Again thanks for your full review on it. At least I know that you're not a dealer. Lol.

popnwave 10:45 PM - 4 April, 2017

Hooray - glad to see the DJ-808 getting positive feedback like this. I am hoping this relationship continues and we see some other cool controllers emerge.

DJ Stygma 1:35 PM - 5 April, 2017

the real question is: what was your impressions after just three hours of use? Who cares about the whole weekend.

SG SOUNDS 11:44 AM - 6 April, 2017

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I was lucky enough to find a local DJ selling his mint condition Roland DJ-808 for less money than I sold my old controller for. Needless to say, I bought it. That was 5 days ago. Yes, I really wanted to write this review earlier but in-depth testing needed to be done first. That being said, I will concentrate this review on three main topics… layout/build quality, features/ performance, & overall impressions.

The roland DJ-808 has adopted the standard SDJ layout of a 4 channel controller with 2 decent sized jog wheels. It is unique due to the integrated drum machine and voice transformer. Roland chose a mirrored layout that works well. I particularly like that the 100mm pitch faders are situated slightly above the jog wheels so DJs don't accidentally hit them while scratching. All the buttons, knobs and faders feel solid and very responsive. The knobs themselves are of the rubberized variety which I like. I was impressed with Roland's overall attention to small design details. One example of this are all the shift functions that are highlighted in white throughout the controller. Another example (if you look closely) is that the jog wheels themselves have vinyl grooves in them. The Roland DJ-808 is made up of a mixture of metal and plastic. The top plate is metal and extends down to the left & right hand side of the controller. The base, front and rear portion of the DJ-808 is made of a durable plastic. This cuts down on the weight of the unit which is only 15 pounds. Overall, the Roland DJ-808 is a beautifully designed controller that commands respect.

The only thing more impressive than the feature set of the Roland DJ-808 is how well it all integrates together! I literally spent hours each day playing with the drum machine which operates completely standalone (thanks to an integrated standalone mixer). There are 16 patters that can be saved and played live. You can also record and save your own patterns and integrate sample sounds from the SDJ sampler.

My 10 year old son officially tested out the voice transformer for me. That lasted for about a half hour because I couldn't take any more of his singing in a robot voice!(lol). Another feature that I absolutely love about the DJ-808 are the platters. I'm not the type of person that buys into marketing hype. Roland said that the DJ-808 has the "lowest latency platters of any DJ controller available". I was skeptical. Let me be the first to say that I was wrong! I was completely blown away by how ULTRA responsive the platters are!! Please don't take my word for it. Go and test them out for yourself. Now it's time to talk about the sound quality of the DJ-808. In a word, AWESOME! There very few controllers that can even come close to the DJ-808's level of crystal clear, punchy sound. I have attached a link below to the DJ-808's spec sheet:

www.roland.com

If I had to describe the Roland DJ-808 with one word- it would be FUN! It's been a very long time since I played around with music simply for the pure joy & pleasure that it brings. I don't know how Roland did it but they definitely sprinkled some pure "Roland magic" into this controller! The Roland DJ-808 is an innovative controller designed for creative DJs looking to add live remixing/music production into their sets. It has performed PERFECTLY with SDJ. To put it plainly … the Roland DJ-808 works great right out of the box. The overall drum machine intergration/controller user experience is EXCELLENT!!

I look forward to hearing from other DJ-808 owners/users. Please feel free to post any questions, feature suggestions and/or hardware/software improvements on this thread.

SG SOUNDS 11:49 AM - 6 April, 2017

Totally love this review and agree with everything said...The sound card on this controller simply amazing...

JDforKing 12:31 PM - 6 April, 2017

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Totally love this review and agree with everything said...The sound card on this controller simply amazing...

Do you run your speakers directly out of the 808 or do you run the 808 through an external mixer

SG SOUNDS 1:23 PM - 6 April, 2017

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Totally love this review and agree with everything said...The sound card on this controller simply amazing...

Do you run your speakers directly out of the 808 or do you run the 808 through an external mixer[/quot

it depends on the gig...small gigs i run directly from the 808...big gigs i run through my qsc touchmix mixer...i normally use my pioneer s9 for big gigs but the 808 believe it or not sounds better than my s9 and as earm as my rane 62..so i mostly use the 808 for all gigs now...im spoil with the sound quality of the 808

Even the mixing between songs to me sound better on the 808 than my s9 with the sopposed to be more superior fadder...after changing the cut in time on the 808 the cut in scratching is just as good as the s9...But long mixing is what i really perfer and to me the laying of the track mixing from one song to another sounds awesome on the 808...

938MyDJ 1:54 PM - 6 April, 2017

Side by side comparison of the TR-S drum machine vs the TR-8... 808 also wins on sound quality.

And if you get the right balance, the beat blends better with the audio tracks... sounds almost like a part of the original recording.

Chino 1:57 PM - 6 April, 2017

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after changing the cut in time on the 808 the cut in scratching is just as good as the s9

I was wondering about how the S9's cross fader compares to the Rane 62 & the Roland DJ-808.

I also adjusted the fader cut in time of my 808. It really improves the overall sharp cut of Roland's stock fader. I like that the DJ-808 is user customizable! I recently installed an innofader too. The innofader is super buttery smooth- similar to the fader on my 62.

Chino 2:07 PM - 6 April, 2017

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Side by side comparison of the TR-S drum machine vs the TR-8... 808 also wins on sound quality.

Since you have the entire AIRA line…. I could use some advice on my next purchase. I'm looking into buying either a Korg Kaossolator or the Roland TB-3 for synth sounds to plug into the DJ-808.

I currently own a Korg KP3+ that I run into my Roland MV8800. I love the touch pad,effects, sounds and how intuitive it is.

Would I be be better off buying the TB-3 over the Kaossolator since it integrates well with the 808?

938MyDJ 6:27 PM - 6 April, 2017

I myself did a little research of the Korg-Kaossciators and the feature between 2 units is slightly different yet similar in some ways.

For perfect integration, less cable to take care of (TB-3 & VT-3 don't need adaptor and RCA if hooked up on the 808), looks and brand, it's TB-3 all the way for me.
(I'm not sure if Kaoss can do sequencing on standalone mode but the TB-3 can)

You can add the Kaoss later if you really want it. TB-3 has synth sounds if you will use the Kaoss as your BASS synth or vice-versa.

Manny C dot com 6:24 AM - 7 April, 2017

I'm still waiting for a large version of the DJ-808 with 7-inch platters (the size of a DDJ-SZ). I should be careful of what I wish for though, becuase the day that hits store shelves, I'm going to be out a big chunk of money.

SG SOUNDS 11:39 AM - 7 April, 2017

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I'm still waiting for a large version of the DJ-808 with 7-inch platters (the size of a DDJ-SZ). I should be careful of what I wish for though, becuase the day that hits store shelves, I'm going to be out a big chunk of money.

why though? the 808 size is big enough and even with the smaller size platter it's still miles better with response than the pioneer platters..

Chino 2:25 PM - 7 April, 2017

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I'm still waiting for a large version of the DJ-808 with 7-inch platters (the size of a DDJ-SZ). I should be careful of what I wish for though, becuase the day that hits store shelves, I'm going to be out a big chunk of money.

why though? the 808 size is big enough and even with the smaller size platter it's still miles better with response than the pioneer platters..

It's probably just a personal preference. I have big hands so I also like controllers with large platters. The overall size of the DJ-808(& platters) works well and makes the controller very gig friendly. It must be difficult for companies to balance the best size/weight of a controller versus the features and cost.

Look what Roland is able to accomplish with static platters. IMHO Roland has raised the bar. The DJ-808's platters are SUPER responsive and have the lowest latency of any controller. Imagine what Roland could do with direct drive moving platters on a controller!!

938MyDJ 3:42 PM - 7 April, 2017

Although I am happy with the 808, I will also get the bigger version if it will be made.

Chino 10:07 PM - 9 April, 2017

I'm now running the DJ-808 with a Korg KP3+. Just having fun experimenting with different sounds. I will definitely look into adding a Kaossolator and/or a Roland TB-3.

I'm also able to run the USB audio latency in SDJ 1.9.6 at 2ms. Overall, the DJ-808 has VERY tight platter responsiveness & I love the drum machine integration!

mid 2012 MBP OSX 10.8.5 2.6 i7 quad core 16GB RAM 750GB HD
partitioned HD OSX 10.11.5 (EL Capitan).

iernei 11:11 AM - 12 April, 2017

I dislike or don't particulary like three things about this controller in comparison with mc7000.

No.1 is "only" -26 eq on the channels. Is there a way to change it to full kill in system settings?

Second feature I'm missing on dj808 is needle drop.

The third disturbing thing is the price. I don't know if I would need the sequencer part all the time, although I really like the vocoder. And I'm courious about the platter, specifically in comparison to other controllers. So in my case I need to weigh all pros and cons and decide if it's worth 550€ more.

DJ2dmax 8:54 PM - 12 April, 2017

This review is great thanks to CHINO!!

I just started a thread yesterday "SX2 or MC7000".

I should have started "808 or MC7000 or SX2" - which one should I buy?

Coming from a 4trak user & Traktor. I am leaning towards the MC7000 for budget wise and extra 3 expansion packs (flip, pitch and video) free with MC7000 purchase.

Your thoughts?? anyone??

938MyDJ 11:07 PM - 12 April, 2017

Owner of SX2, SZ, S9+1200s, DJM2000NXS/SRT+CDJ2000NXS... and still decided to buy it for a simple but BIG reason.

It does something that the above mentioned units CANNOT DO... Flawless MIDI-integration.

If you've been mixing with 4decks to add loops/beats on your sets, have been producing your own music, want to add more midi-devices, or want to do live remixes with your favorite synths within SDJ then it's a No Brainer to get the DJ-808.

Your BIG Bonus... better platters and sound quality!

PS: You need to beatgrid your tracks to make the built in TR-S to work properly. Saying this because out of 5 of us DJs in the club on rotation, no one does beatgridding but me and we're all Serato users.

DJ2dmax 11:08 PM - 12 April, 2017

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I was lucky enough to find a local DJ selling his mint condition Roland DJ-808 for less money than I sold my old controller for. Needless to say, I bought it. That was 5 days ago. Yes, I really wanted to write this review earlier but in-depth testing needed to be done first. That being said, I will concentrate this review on three main topics… layout/build quality, features/ performance, & overall impressions.

The roland DJ-808 has adopted the standard SDJ layout of a 4 channel controller with 2 decent sized jog wheels. It is unique due to the integrated drum machine and voice transformer. Roland chose a mirrored layout that works well. I particularly like that the 100mm pitch faders are situated slightly above the jog wheels so DJs don't accidentally hit them while scratching. All the buttons, knobs and faders feel solid and very responsive. The knobs themselves are of the rubberized variety which I like. I was impressed with Roland's overall attention to small design details. One example of this are all the shift functions that are highlighted in white throughout the controller. Another example (if you look closely) is that the jog wheels themselves have vinyl grooves in them. The Roland DJ-808 is made up of a mixture of metal and plastic. The top plate is metal and extends down to the left & right hand side of the controller. The base, front and rear portion of the DJ-808 is made of a durable plastic. This cuts down on the weight of the unit which is only 15 pounds. Overall, the Roland DJ-808 is a beautifully designed controller that commands respect.

The only thing more impressive than the feature set of the Roland DJ-808 is how well it all integrates together! I literally spent hours each day playing with the drum machine which operates completely standalone (thanks to an integrated standalone mixer). There are 16 patters that can be saved and played live. You can also record and save your own patterns and integrate sample sounds from the SDJ sampler.

My 10 year old son officially tested out the voice transformer for me. That lasted for about a half hour because I couldn't take any more of his singing in a robot voice!(lol). Another feature that I absolutely love about the DJ-808 are the platters. I'm not the type of person that buys into marketing hype. Roland said that the DJ-808 has the "lowest latency platters of any DJ controller available". I was skeptical. Let me be the first to say that I was wrong! I was completely blown away by how ULTRA responsive the platters are!! Please don't take my word for it. Go and test them out for yourself. Now it's time to talk about the sound quality of the DJ-808. In a word, AWESOME! There very few controllers that can even come close to the DJ-808's level of crystal clear, punchy sound. I have attached a link below to the DJ-808's spec sheet:

www.roland.com

If I had to describe the Roland DJ-808 with one word- it would be FUN! It's been a very long time since I played around with music simply for the pure joy & pleasure that it brings. I don't know how Roland did it but they definitely sprinkled some pure "Roland magic" into this controller! The Roland DJ-808 is an innovative controller designed for creative DJs looking to add live remixing/music production into their sets. It has performed PERFECTLY with SDJ. To put it plainly … the Roland DJ-808 works great right out of the box. The overall drum machine intergration/controller user experience is EXCELLENT!!

I look forward to hearing from other DJ-808 owners/users. Please feel free to post any questions, feature suggestions and/or hardware/software improvements on this thread.

Chino, would you recommend me getting this than SX2 or MC7000? Coming from 4trak user for 3 yrs.

Currently found the 808 for a good price, open box.

Please advise....

Chino 11:41 PM - 12 April, 2017

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Chino, would you recommend me getting this than SX2 or MC7000? Coming from 4trak user for 3 yrs.

Currently found the 808 for a good price, open box.

Please advise....

I would recommend making a list of what features you need in a controller versus your budget.

The Pioneer SX2 is a solid all around controller with two mic inputs. You will notice a MUCH BETTER sound quality on the Denon MC7000 than the Pioneer SX2. The Pioneer SX2 is reliable and stable though. The Denon MC7000 comes with the 3 additional expansion packs. Of the three controllers, the Roland DJ-808 has the BEST sound quality and platter feel.

If you plan on doing live remixes/music production than the Roland DJ-808 is the controller to get. If you just need a great sounding controller than the Denon MC7000 will do the job and so will the SX2. The thing that worries me about the new Denon DJ controllers is their reliability/stability track record. I had issues with my MCx8000 so I sold mine.

If the 'open box' price of the DJ-808 is close to the price that you are paying for the MC7000 then I DEFINITELY would buy the Roland over the other two controllers! Again, it all depends on the features that you NEED versus your budget.

I sold my MCx8000 for $1000 and I bought my Roland DJ-808 for $975. I was very lucky to have found such a great deal on it! Good luck!

DJ2dmax 11:52 PM - 12 April, 2017

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Chino, would you recommend me getting this than SX2 or MC7000? Coming from 4trak user for 3 yrs.

Currently found the 808 for a good price, open box.

Please advise....

I would recommend making a list of what features you need in a controller versus your budget.

The Pioneer SX2 is a solid all around controller with two mic inputs. You will notice a MUCH BETTER sound quality on the Denon MC7000 than the Pioneer SX2. The Pioneer SX2 is reliable and stable though. The Denon MC7000 comes with the 3 additional expansion packs. Of the three controllers, the Roland DJ-808 has the BEST sound quality and platter feel.

If you plan on doing live remixes/music production than the Roland DJ-808 is the controller to get. If you just need a great sounding controller than the Denon MC7000 will do the job and so will the SX2. The thing that worries me about the new Denon DJ controllers is their reliability/stability track record. I had issues with my MCx8000 so I sold mine.

If the 'open box' price of the DJ-808 is close to the price that you are paying for the MC7000 then I DEFINITELY would buy the Roland over the other two controllers! Again, it all depends on the features that you NEED versus your budget.

I sold my MCx8000 for $1000 and I bought my Roland DJ-808 for $975. I was very lucky to have found such a great deal on it! Good luck!

Thanks for the reply Chino...

The price is $1600CDN, mc7000 is for $1467 and SX2 is for $1513.... only problem with the DJ-808 the seller doesn't have the original receipt. I am thinking of warranty now and problems that might come up.

When you bought your DJ-808 did you get a receipt and managed to register the machine for warranty purposes?

Please advise....

Chino 11:55 PM - 12 April, 2017

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I dislike or don't particulary like three things about this controller in comparison with mc7000.

No.1 is "only" -26 eq on the channels. Is there a way to change it to full kill in system settings?

Second feature I'm missing on dj808 is needle drop.

The third disturbing thing is the price. I don't know if I would need the sequencer part all the time, although I really like the vocoder. And I'm courious about the platter, specifically in comparison to other controllers. So in my case I need to weigh all pros and cons and decide if it's worth 550€ more.

1. Adjust the Master output attenuator level to -3 or -6 so that the EQs will give you more of a 'full kill'.

2. I also thought I would miss the needle drop feature but I don't. I just set up CUE points in the songs.

3. It's definitely worth the price IF you plan on using all the features(drum machine & voice transformer etc.). The DJ-808 is designed to take DJing to the next level creatively by introducing DJs to live remixing/music production. The price reflects that.'Open box'/mint condition DJ-808s are selling for much less then the $1500 new price tag.

Chino 12:09 AM - 13 April, 2017

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The price is $1600CDN, mc7000 is for $1467 and SX2 is for $1513.... only problem with the DJ-808 the seller doesn't have the original receipt. I am thinking of warranty now and problems that might come up.

When you bought your DJ-808 did you get a receipt and managed to register the machine for warranty purposes?

Wow those prices are HIGH! Here in the states, I've seen SX2 for $800-$900 USD. Ive also saw(2 weeks ago) the Roland DJ-808 listed brand new for $1000 free shipping(including a Roland Gig bag) by an authorized retailer in NY.

I bought my DJ-808 from a private seller with no receipt. I took a chance but for me it is worth it!

Try buying an 'open box' controller from an authorized retailer- that way you still will have the full manufactor's warranty.

DJKayce 1:49 AM - 13 April, 2017

Hey @ Chino or anyone
I bought 808 today but its not connecting to my Macbook.
I downloaded the latest version SDJ 1.9.6.
I know its serato enable so anything am missing here?

Oh my macbook is mid 2013, i5 with 4GB. 500gb hard drive.
OS X is 10.9.5

Error message. DJ 808 FAILED TO CONNECT.
At 1st. it will say that DJ 808 is connecting but might take a minute. Then after a minute or so, it then says that 808 failed to connect.

I have used this Macbook with DDJ SX/SX2, DDJ SZ, VCI 380, MC6000MK2, NS6, Rane 57sl, 61, 62, SL2/3/4
I know its not my laptop cos it meets all the requirements for the controller.
SO is there anything am suppose to do here?

Chino 2:05 AM - 13 April, 2017

Congrats on the DJ-808 purchase! Please make sure that you have the latest drivers/firmware installed. The direct link is posted below:

www.roland.com

DJKayce 2:07 AM - 13 April, 2017

ok am checking on the unit firmware as I write this. Thanks.

Chino 2:09 AM - 13 April, 2017

^^^ You will also need the latest MAC drivers. It's version 1.0.3

DJKayce 3:54 AM - 13 April, 2017

No luck yet. all I see is err message when updating the drivers.
I updated the hard ware to 1.06 with no problem. Mine came with 1.04.

Chino 4:11 AM - 13 April, 2017

Double check to make sure that you followed all the steps from Roland:

Installation
*If a dialog box requesting a password appears during installation, enter your password and click [Install Software].
Start computer with all USB cables disconnected.
(except the keyboard and mouse)
Double-click "DJ808_USBDriver."
A screen will ask whether you want to run a program that checks whether installation is possible; click [Continue].
The display will indicate "Welcome to the DJ-808 Driver Installer"; click [Continue].
If a screen appears, asking you to choose the installation location, click the system drive to select it, and then click [Continue].
The installation type will be displayed; click [Install] or [Upgrade].
A screen will ask you to confirm that it is OK to restart your computer when installtion finishes. Make sure that no applications are running, then click [Continue Installation].
When the installation is completed, click [Restart] to restart your computer.
*It may take some time for restarting the computer.

You definitely need to download & install the MAC 1.0.3 driver in order for the Roland DJ-808 to be able to connect to your computer. I would also recommend uninstalling SDJ and then doing a fresh install.

DJKayce 4:53 AM - 13 April, 2017

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Double check to make sure that you followed all the steps from Roland:

Installation
*If a dialog box requesting a password appears during installation, enter your password and click [Install Software].
Start computer with all USB cables disconnected.
(except the keyboard and mouse)
Double-click "DJ808_USBDriver."
A screen will ask whether you want to run a program that checks whether installation is possible; click [Continue].
The display will indicate "Welcome to the DJ-808 Driver Installer"; click [Continue].
If a screen appears, asking you to choose the installation location, click the system drive to select it, and then click [Continue].
The installation type will be displayed; click [Install] or [Upgrade].
A screen will ask you to confirm that it is OK to restart your computer when installtion finishes. Make sure that no applications are running, then click [Continue Installation].
When the installation is completed, click [Restart] to restart your computer.
*It may take some time for restarting the computer.

You definitely need to download & install the MAC 1.0.3 driver in order for the Roland DJ-808 to be able to connect to your computer. I would also recommend uninstalling SDJ and then doing a fresh install.

Thanks for this. I got it now. working perfect. Going to bed now.

Chino 1:55 AM - 14 April, 2017

*GIG REPORT*

I ran the DJ-808 today at a college event. SHOUT OUT to Rowan University! The DJ-808 performed great!

DJKayce 2:14 AM - 14 April, 2017

hey I got everything working so far except the TR/Sampler fader.
My sampler is set to M(master) but sampler fader is not working.
I found out that 808 output is really hot so I set it -3 which helps with trim and Master knobs.
My only problem is sampler fader not working. Any work around to it?

938MyDJ 4:33 AM - 14 April, 2017

That center fader is for TR-S and "Sequenced SAMPLES" volume. It doesn't control the Sampler Master GAIN.

Try to sequence something from the sample slots 1-8...
Move the fader up and down to hear the changes in volume level.

You can also adjust the individual TRIM of the 8 slots using the Trim Knob of the TR-8.

Play around more with your unit... by next time, you might tell me something I haven't discovered or tried on my 808 yet.

Cheers!

938MyDJ 4:51 AM - 14 April, 2017

As a workaround to make the 808's TR-S work like a TR-8, I use an F1 that is mapped to control the 8 other slots.

If space is not a problem, I would rather use the TR-8 for more contols.

DJKayce 4:17 PM - 14 April, 2017

Quote:

That center fader is for TR-S and "Sequenced SAMPLES" volume. It doesn't control the Sampler Master GAIN.

Try to sequence something from the sample slots 1-8...
Move the fader up and down to hear the changes in volume level.

You can also adjust the individual TRIM of the 8 slots using the Trim Knob of the TR-8.

Play around more with your unit... by next time, you might tell me something I haven't discovered or tried on my 808 yet.

So how do I increase the sampler vol from the controller? I checked the manual & it says TR//S fader.
Anyway my workaround now is go inside the serato & increase manually to a desire vol.
but there should be a way from the controller itself instead of torching my laptop.
But so far, I like the controller & today will be my real test in a big hall. I might go with MC6000mk2 as a backup.

Cheers!

Chino 8:05 PM - 17 April, 2017

Quote:

So how do I increase the sampler vol from the controller? I checked the manual & it says TR//S fader.
Anyway my workaround now is go inside the serato & increase manually to a desire vol.
but there should be a way from the controller itself instead of torching my laptop.

Today I tried remapping the TR/SAMPLER volume control for the SAMPLER and it worked. That may be a solution for you.

Chino 2:07 PM - 3 May, 2017

A couple of real world applications for the DJ-808's drum machine/voice transformer….

1. I use the drum machine of the DJ-808 during Cocktail hour of my weddings & mitzvahs. I can play along side a violinist, flute or any string instrument to add my own unique style. I also add funky instrumentals beats during dinner.

2. My clients often hire a sax player and/or percussionist to play throughout the evening. I jam out with them using the TR-S drum machine. It's almost like an improv jazz session.

3. I hand the mic over to the crowd during a 'sing a long' set and use the voice transformer to warp the voices of those singing. The kids and crowd really enjoy this!

4. The DJ-808 really shines at the club. Adding 808/909 beats over songs and remixing live is pure fun!

Just some ideas of how to incorporate all the features of the Roland DJ-808 into everyday gigs...

iernei 10:49 AM - 10 May, 2017

@Chino & other owners
I have two more issues regarding dj-808 if you would be so kind to answer.

When you move filter knob all the way to the right (high pass) is there any sound left? Because for example ddj sz filters leave some frequencies audible, but terminal mix 8 cuts everything which I prefer.

Can you measure the diameter of the active part of the platter? I can't find any info about the platter size.

Chino 12:14 PM - 10 May, 2017

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When you move filter knob all the way to the right (high pass) is there any sound left? Because for example ddj sz filters leave some frequencies audible, but terminal mix 8 cuts everything which I prefer.

There is some slight sound remaining when the filter knob is turned all the way to the right. It is very minimal, though.

Quote:

Can you measure the diameter of the active part of the platter? I can't find any info about the platter size.

It's approx. 5.5 inches in diameter. To give you an idea of platter size… it's very close to the platter size of the Denon MCx8000 or Pioneer SX2.

iernei 2:03 PM - 10 May, 2017

Thank you very much for all the answers.
Now I need to find the place where I can test this device, which is quite difficult in my country.

And I must admit, that those non-full kills on eq and hp filter are working against my style of mixing. In the end it would be a close call between this controller and mc7000. I'm willing to pay the price for 808 but when I count in the need for a new bag (current one will probably be 1 or 2 cm too narrow and guess what,the mc7000 fits) the costs just add up. I really don't know how to decide. Sequencer, mic fx, sound quality and platter response though...

Well, I need to test out both controllers and decide. Thanks again.

djcrap 2:36 PM - 10 May, 2017

Quote:

Thank you very much for all the answers.
Now I need to find the place where I can test this device, which is quite difficult in my country.

And I must admit, that those non-full kills on eq and hp filter are working against my style of mixing. In the end it would be a close call between this controller and mc7000. I'm willing to pay the price for 808 but when I count in the need for a new bag (current one will probably be 1 or 2 cm too narrow and guess what,the mc7000 fits) the costs just add up. I really don't know how to decide. Sequencer, mic fx, sound quality and platter response though...

Well, I need to test out both controllers and decide. Thanks again.

just go dj 808 those platers are so responsively good . plus the stock crossfader on the dj 808 has a better feel than the stock pioneer djsz my opinion.

djcrap 2:41 PM - 10 May, 2017

just curious has any of you signed up for the free dj 808 bag from roland.

Purchase a DJ-808 between January 1, 2017, and June 30, 2017, and get a CB-GDJ808 Gold Series Bag Free.

www.rolandus.com

Chino 5:58 PM - 10 May, 2017

^^^ I bought my DJ-808 used so I didn't qualify : (

Just a heads up… FREE DJ-808 training from the Roland Cloud Academy. The link for more info is posted below…

www.rolandus.com

jackdhouse 2:43 AM - 11 May, 2017

I got the free bag. Its pretty decent, well padded for a soft case. It took about two weeks to get after submitting the docs.

iernei 5:26 PM - 13 May, 2017

One more question. How's your pitch fader resolution? Roland is probably preparing a frimware update regarding this issue. But is this a common problem? Is pitch fader resolution (more than 0.05 bpm steps) that bad with all units?

DJKayce 1:26 AM - 15 May, 2017

Quote:

One more question. How's your pitch fader resolution? Roland is probably preparing a frimware update regarding this issue. But is this a common problem? Is pitch fader resolution (more than 0.05 bpm steps) that bad with all units?

Hope they come out with a firmware soon to resolve this. Coming from Denon to DJ 808, 808 jumps from 0.00 to 0.04 or 5 sometimes. gets annoying sometimes.

jackdhouse 2:12 AM - 15 May, 2017

Quote:

One more question. How's your pitch fader resolution? Roland is probably preparing a frimware update regarding this issue. But is this a common problem? Is pitch fader resolution (more than 0.05 bpm steps) that bad with all units?

Hope they come out with a firmware soon to resolve this. Coming from Denon to DJ 808, 808 jumps from 0.00 to 0.04 or 5 sometimes. gets annoying sometimes.

According to MojaxxVDJ YouTube "Review: Roland DJ-808 Controller" post a week ago he stated in the comment section:
"It's worth noting that after the video was finished, I heard from Roland that they are planning to release a firmware update to improve the pitch accuracy on the unit."

iernei 12:54 PM - 15 May, 2017

Quote:

One more question. How's your pitch fader resolution? Roland is probably preparing a frimware update regarding this issue. But is this a common problem? Is pitch fader resolution (more than 0.05 bpm steps) that bad with all units?

Hope they come out with a firmware soon to resolve this. Coming from Denon to DJ 808, 808 jumps from 0.00 to 0.04 or 5 sometimes. gets annoying sometimes.

According to MojaxxVDJ YouTube "Review: Roland DJ-808 Controller" post a week ago he stated in the comment section:
"It's worth noting that after the video was finished, I heard from Roland that they are planning to release a firmware update to improve the pitch accuracy on the unit."

0.04 is not so bad. Even ddj-sz has similar accuracy. Although with sz I think the problem is with displaying correct value (pitch fader doing its thing and performing smaller steps which are not displayed in the software). But at this price point it's just embarrassing for the manufacturer(s) and should be solved asap. Even budget controllers have 0.01-0.02 pitch accuracy with 8% range.

“planning to release a firmware update"
Plans vs. reality.
And of course no time frame added.

938MyDJ 1:59 PM - 15 May, 2017

On the contrary, I use the pitch knob of the 808's TR-S to round the pitch to .10s - I use other midi devices to it and I believe that this makes sync tighter across all units than leaving it to odd bom like 121.03.

Common midi devices and most DAWs adjusts by whole 1.0 bpm.

938MyDJ 2:01 PM - 15 May, 2017

"bom" should be bpm.

DJ2dmax 3:52 PM - 15 May, 2017

Chino, would I be concerned with warranty for this? Found a seller online that I might be able to beg to lower down pricing. Its an open box never gigged piece, which should be a good deal.

DJ2dmax 4:19 PM - 15 May, 2017

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The price is $1600CDN, mc7000 is for $1467 and SX2 is for $1513.... only problem with the DJ-808 the seller doesn't have the original receipt. I am thinking of warranty now and problems that might come up.

When you bought your DJ-808 did you get a receipt and managed to register the machine for warranty purposes?

Wow those prices are HIGH! Here in the states, I've seen SX2 for $800-$900 USD. Ive also saw(2 weeks ago) the Roland DJ-808 listed brand new for $1000 free shipping(including a Roland Gig bag) by an authorized retailer in NY.

I bought my DJ-808 from a private seller with no receipt. I took a chance but for me it is worth it!

Try buying an 'open box' controller from an authorized retailer- that way you still will have the full manufactor's warranty.

Chino, do you have the name of the NY retailer that has that pricing? Thanks...

Chino 9:40 PM - 15 May, 2017

^^^ I believe it was Pro Audio Star. It was a limited time deal. Try emailing or calling them directly to see if they can still give you a good deal on one. The link is below:

www.proaudiostar.com.

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Chino, would I be concerned with warranty for this? Found a seller online that I might be able to beg to lower down pricing. Its an open box never gigged piece, which should be a good deal.

It all depends on how well the seller took care of his or her equipment.

I haven't experienced the pitch issue but I'm thankful that Roland will be releasing a firmware update to address it. Roland is a very reputable company that supports their products.

DJ2dmax 6:03 PM - 16 May, 2017

Quote:

^^^ I believe it was Pro Audio Star. It was a limited time deal. Try emailing or calling them directly to see if they can still give you a good deal on one. The link is below:

www.proaudiostar.com.

Quote:

Chino, would I be concerned with warranty for this? Found a seller online that I might be able to beg to lower down pricing. Its an open box never gigged piece, which should be a good deal.

It all depends on how well the seller took care of his or her equipment.

I haven't experienced the pitch issue but I'm thankful that Roland will be releasing a firmware update to address it. Roland is a very reputable company that supports their products.

Thanks for the info Chino. Decided not to get the open box dj808 from kijiji, as wifey doesn't like no warranty on an expensive controller. Managed to land a great deal at THEDJHOOKUP in IL - brand new SX2 with Odyssey glide case for only $1028 USD, + shipping to Canada... still saves me almost $500 CAD, compatred to buying it here.

Chino 7:11 PM - 16 May, 2017

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Managed to land a great deal at THEDJHOOKUP in IL - brand new SX2 with Odyssey glide case for only $1028 USD, + shipping to Canada... still saves me almost $500 CAD, compatred to buying it here

Nice! There are definitely good deals out there on many controllers!

I'm still trying to decide on whether to buy the Roland TB-3 or Korg Kaossolator to add to my DJ-808 setup. I may need to take a trip to Sam Ash or Guitar Center to try them out soon.

bcatdclub 9:34 AM - 17 May, 2017

The 808 is amazing and so much lighter than my sz2. Got the system 8 and now jamming more than mixing.

938MyDJ 1:59 PM - 17 May, 2017

Same thing here! No more craving for live band performance feeling as soon as I got the 808 and the other AIRA units.

938MyDJ 2:06 PM - 17 May, 2017

The tight integration of the 808 with midi instruments is what makes it superior than any other SDJ controllers... to real musicians at least.

Chino 9:53 PM - 18 May, 2017

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No more craving for live band performance feeling as soon as I got the 808 and the other AIRA units.

I'm hoping that Roland brings out a sampler/sequencer in the Aira line that integrates well with the DJ-808.

938MyDJ 10:32 PM - 18 May, 2017

Live Sampler for the AIRA Line is not a bad idea!
I will buy the unit the moment it comes out!

For now, RC-505 Loop Station is my sampler... but of course it is only limited to what is plugged into it - the instruments (plugged into one ART-MicroMixer)... it's possible to send the booth out of the 808 too... but still manipulating that sample will also be limited.

Chino 4:54 PM - 25 May, 2017

Check out these YouTube links demoing how to make certain types of beats on the Roland DJ-808…

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The Lazy One 1:52 PM - 13 June, 2017

has the pitch fader resolution problems been solved?

What increments of BPM are now available? It would be awesome a 0,01

Coherence 2:35 PM - 13 June, 2017

Quote:

has the pitch fader resolution problems been solved?

What increments of BPM are now available? It would be awesome a 0,01

It has not. =(

938MyDJ 8:50 PM - 13 June, 2017

As a workaround (for un-noticeable bpm change) my advice is...

Use the TR-S pitch knob to speed up or slow down.

Do increments of 0.10 on downbeat of each bar.

*SYNC must be ON*

DJKayce 3:07 AM - 14 June, 2017

So sad I have to return mine. Nice controller but not for me at the moment. How can I pay top dollars for this unit and everyday, am looking for workaround.
1. Pitch fader increments not accurate.
2. Sampler fader not working. Unless I do it manually inside serato.
3. Cue/Headphone output not hot. Even when turned to max.
4. Mic output was terrible on mine. Always blinking peak red when MC's are not even shouting on it.
5. Drum machine was work in progress for me tho I felt it doesn't worth that extra $499 above SX2 AND MC7000.
Anyways, these are some of my disliking with the unit for now. I kept my case just incase Roland ironed out some or always these flaws.
Back to my Denon MC6000MK2. Solid as a rock for me.
Looking at MC7000 but am hearing about USB hubs been loose on the units.

Chino 3:57 AM - 19 June, 2017

^^^ Sorry to hear that but at least you got to try it out. I also still have & use my MC6000mk2 for smaller events. It's really nice and portable. Roland is working on a firmware fix for the pitch fader.

I did notice that the DJ-808's mic output does blink red often. I adjust the mic sensitivity to compensate for the peaking. I also prefer the headphone output volume of my MC6000mk2 because I don't need to turn it all the way up.

I've read that the jog wheel platter sensitivity is not adjustable on the MC7000 like it is on the MCx8000. Please write a review on the MC7000 if you decide to buy it.

JDforKing 6:13 PM - 19 June, 2017

Chino or DJKayce, have you guys used the a pioneer ddj sx2, if so how did the sound quality compare to your mc6000mk2?

Chino 7:02 PM - 19 June, 2017

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Chino or DJKayce, have you guys used the a pioneer ddj sx2, if so how did the sound quality compare to your mc6000mk2?

I've used the Pioneer SX/SX2 & the SZ. The sound quality of the Denon MC6000mk2 is MUCH better than any of the Pioneer controllers that I've used. I also like that the Denon MC6000mk2 has a built in standalone mixer, 2 mics with 3 band EQ & is VERY portable due to it's small size. It makes a great backup controller!!

DJKayce 12:40 AM - 20 June, 2017

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Chino or DJKayce, have you guys used the a pioneer ddj sx2, if so how did the sound quality compare to your mc6000mk2?

Likewise here. I have own Pioneer DDJ SX/SX2 and SZ. My MC6000mk2 beats SX & SX2 hands down. SZ is on par with sound quality with denon but I sold my SZ for MC6000mks bcos of the size. MC6000mk2 is very portable and the sound is super. Its my main and back up controller. The only thing is that it ships with Serato Into but Denon was giving out a free SERATO DJ license when I bought mine almost 2 yrs ago. I think its still going on. I still wanna get a mid size controller for big paying events. Not that mc6000mks can't do the job but just wanna look presentable.
I jumped into DJ 808 from Roland but returned it for some personal things. Right now am looking at MC7000 but taking it slowly. Still rocking the mc6000mk2 for now.

Chino 1:01 AM - 20 June, 2017

^^^ Good luck on your search for another mid-size controller!

There will be a part 2 review of the Roland DJ-808 that will focus on how well the DJ-808 performed after 3 months of gig use.

JDforKing 2:18 AM - 20 June, 2017

I wonder if the denon mc4000 sounds as good as the mc6000 mk2

Mike Butler 7:38 AM - 21 June, 2017

Does the DJ-808 have twin USB ports like the DDJ-SZ so you can connect two laptops at once?

Mike

Chino 1:23 PM - 21 June, 2017

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Does the DJ-808 have twin USB ports like the DDJ-SZ so you can connect two laptops at once?

The DJ-808 does have two USB ports but their designed to connect other AIRA line products NOT another laptop.

keynote101 6:33 AM - 25 June, 2017

so can someone explain what the benefit of buying other aira stuff if I have this 808? does it sequence the sequencers too??

DJBenski 7:15 AM - 25 June, 2017

Congrats, I love this controller! Only reason why I did not buy it was that it is massive and my home studio is small plus I need a smaller setup for mobile gigs. I will get one as a future home studio setup when I have a larger space.

Chino 10:27 PM - 25 June, 2017

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so can someone explain what the benefit of buying other aira stuff if I have this 808? does it sequence the sequencers too??

The benefit of using other AIRA devices is that it all sync up in timing. The Roland DJ-808 includes a drum machine. Eventually you may find that you would also like to add some synth sounds to your remixes. Thats where the Roland TB-3 and/or System 1 comes into play.

938MyDJ 7:16 AM - 26 June, 2017

Just to add more details...
If using AIRA devices (up to 2 units), you din't even need RCA and MIDI cables... only USB cables.

Bonus... TB-3 and VT-3 are USB powered - AC Adaptor required.

938MyDJ 7:17 AM - 26 June, 2017

*NOT Required...

&Midge 5:11 PM - 26 June, 2017

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The tight integration of the 808 with midi instruments is what makes it superior than any other SDJ controllers... to real musicians at least

is it tighter than using the TR8 + TB3 with Serato via Ableton link?

938MyDJ 6:30 PM - 26 June, 2017

110% Affirmative!!!

Other notes...

There's NO Sync button in Ableton that will re-align your beat to SDJ (when using LINK)...
(Unless there's way that I'm not aware of)
*Basically, Ableton is your MASTER for midi-clock all the time.

With 808 + TR8 + TB3, you can think of it as MASTER can be either the deck playing or the the built in TR-S.

&Midge 6:46 PM - 26 June, 2017

hmmm, interesting.

I would really love a DJ808 but the size is an off put for me (too big).

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There's NO Sync button in Ableton that will re-align your beat to SDJ (when using LINK)...
(Unless there's way that I'm not aware of)

I'm not sure if there is. I've been doing the following with the TR8

Hold 'TAP' and hit 'START/STOP' works as CDJ style cueing.

938MyDJ 2:09 PM - 4 July, 2017

My 808's right side Play/Stop button snapped last night!
😞😢😞😢😞

I hope they have an 808 loaner in my local music store.

&Midge 4:00 PM - 4 July, 2017

man, that sucks :(

Chino 5:35 PM - 4 July, 2017

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My 808's right side Play/Stop button snapped last night!
😞😢😞😢😞

I hope they have an 808 loaner in my local music store.

Sorry to hear that! Hopefully you can get a loaner until your unit gets fixed!

Btw, I researched the Boss RC-505 looper after you mentioned that you have/use it. That thing is a beast!! I just got back from Miami (South Beach) and loved all the live percussion that was done along side DJing. I was so inspired that I bought a Roland Handsonic HPD-20 while I was there and had it shipped home. Now I will also be ordering a Boss RC-505 looper to complement my live gig setup.

938MyDJ 8:47 PM - 4 July, 2017

Loaner is confirmed to be available! 😀😄😀

You'll enjoy the RC-505 on live remix set up for sure!

Chino 12:04 AM - 7 July, 2017

It's been a little over three months since I purchased the Roland DJ-808. After the "newness" wears off- the true test of any gear is how well it performs week after week, gig after gig. As promised, here are my thoughts on the DJ-808….

Roland's 're-entrance' into the DJ world is definitely unique. The DJ-808 has helped DJs to think creatively about adding music production/remixing into their sets. What is great about the DJ-808 is that it gives the DJ just enough features to inspire them without scaring them off. It is the perfect controller for DJs to "get their feet wet" into the world of music production.

In use, I'm happy to report that I did NOT experience any freezes, crashes, lock-ups, audio drop outs, distortion or weird issues of any kind. In fact, everything just worked like it should. This may not seem to be a big deal to some but personally I value products that work as advertised(especially when my professional reputation is at stake!)

After using the DJ-808 weekly for the last couple of months I do have some suggestions…

1. Allow the TR/Sampler volume to control the master Sampler volume in SDJ.

2. I was able to increase the volume in the headphone output by setting the DJ-808's overall Master volume attenuation to -6. It would be nice if the headphone output level was factory pre-set to 'nice & loud' without the need for adjustments.

3. Standard wired mics (like a Shure SM 58) work great without peaking. My EV R300 wireless mics did peak often until I adjusted the gain/trim on the receiver itself.

4. There have been reports of pitch resolution issues. I haven't experienced this issue personally but Roland is working on a firmware update to address this.

5. This is more of a suggestion for the SDJ Sampler but I would like more sample editing functionality(trim, copy, paste, delete, undo, normalize,etc.) and the ability to direct record live into each pad. These features will help propel the DJ-808 into the next universe as far as creativity!

If the Roland DJ-808 is any indication of what's to come in the future between Roland & Serato then sign me up for whatever comes next!!

Coherence 1:00 AM - 7 July, 2017

Great feedback and largely mirrors my own experience with the 808. The functional bits of day to day DJing controls are some of the best I've used in a controller. The mixer itself is robust and the build on everything from the jogs to the buttons and faders is definitely a cut above.

I also sussed out dropping in the -6dB attenuation in my experimentation, though for different reasons. (output curve on the trims was simply too hot at stock) The nice side effect was that I never really ran into monitoring volume issues.

The onboard effects (filter, jet, and dub echo - I haven't found much use for 'noise') are surprisingly excellent as well. Even though it is combined, multi-parameter, I prefer using the jet function to any of the flanger or phaser Serato effects. Simply feels more expressive with much less input.

Things I would change/fix:

1. Same as above - the TR/Sampler volume is its own weird animal - I'd much prefer to have that tied into the software, specifically to control the sampler level.

2. Pitch resolution. This is probably just a reporting issue between the 808 and SeratoDJ, but it is unnerving to be mixing sometimes 0.2% offset. I trust my ear, but my eyes are terrified. =P The fader is long, smooth, and glorious. It would just be nice to see that reflected within the software as well.

3. Related to #2, either higher resolution stepping on the synchronized BPM on the sequencer section, or fix #2 so we can easily dial in the track BPM to accommodate the sequencer. Repeatedly resyncing kind of stinks.

4. Effects timing knob steps aren't always responsive. It is common that I'll have to click it over 2-3 times to modify from 1/2 to 1/4, etc. This seems like a shoddy pot selection, so probably just have to live with it. (not a huge issue, but feels out of place with how precise everything else on the controller is)

If those items were addressed, I would want for nothing. Scratch that, just fix #2 and I'd still basically want for nothing. Solid, sounds fantastic, built like a tank and just feels great. Zero technical issues (other than #4) week in and week out. Nice work Roland/Serato.

iernei 12:06 PM - 7 July, 2017

After all the thinking I bought DJ-808 a few weeks back and I must say you were all right about this beast. It's amazing. Thanks again for all the info. All the possibilities with the TR-S makes me play with the controller all the time and in a different way. Even though I'm still not fast enough working with this section live, I'm already looking at aira line and other synths I could add to this setup.

As always there's some not so perfect things. As Chino and Coherence already posted, I must agree with almost all the points they've listed.

Headphone output volume is too low. Besides that I think the output's quality is not very good. I use V-Moda LP2s and the bass is just not as punchy as with other devices. As a result it feels as my headphones are not isolating outside sounds well (never had those issues before with LP2s) This is my personal observation and I must add, that I was positioned in the improvised dj booth next to the main speaker. Anyway, the headphone output is not at the same quality level as all other controller sections. Except pitch resolution. Still waiting for firmware update to sort that one out. In the meantime I'm just using sync, but it's disturbing.

I have sampler routed to ch.3 so I don't need a dedicated fader. But I also wish for an updated Serato sampler with all the features Chino mentioned in #5.

My mic also peaks sometimes, but there's no effect on sound quality.

Oh yes, the channel fx. They are really really good.
@Coherence
Noise works really good for house and techno. I turn it on and quickly move the knob to 1 o'clock and back or I make two fast moves to 11 o'clock back and forth and it also makes a nice effect. In a way it's "post-knob" and doesn't just stop when you turn the knob back at 12 (zero position). It "echoes out" so you wanna be quick on the knob. Another way is to move it fast from 12 to far left and back. Noise and dub echo are also post-fader.

Jog wheels are really nice. Finally something not too lightly weighted (backspins are passé in my opinion) and with almost no latency. I'm still getting used to immediate reactions though. And crossfader is also great after adjusting the margin in system settings.

To conclude, beside those two quirks the controller is well worth the money. And I've also managed to get it for a good price. When Serato and Roland introduced this controller I was skeptical at first. But then I've started to see the use cases for my own djing. And new functionality doesn't limit standard Serato features.
It's a piece of kit that encourages creativity. Now I also want to learn more production skills and incorporate it in my sets.

Coherence 5:24 AM - 8 July, 2017

Awesome, I'll play around a bit more with the noise effect. Thanks for the heads up.

As for your headphone quality/volume issue, have you tried putting some attenuation on the master out and bringing your trims up a bit? Not sure why those ended up being intrinsically tied to the headphone output, but they are. At -6dB and trims at ~11 o'clock, I'm driving my cans HARD and it is precise, crisp, and extremely easy to hear minor phase nuances when monitoring, even in the club and I'm only using a crusty pair of HDJ-1500's. (and headphone volume only turned up about 50%)

Chino 9:40 PM - 12 July, 2017

@938MyDJ or anyone else who can help….

I'm new to the whole connecting hardware/syncing via MIDI so I need a crash course on it.

I'm trying to MIDI connect my Roland DJ-808 to the Boss RC-505 & Roland HandSonic HPD-20. I need to control the TEMPO of a track with the 808 and have the Boss RC-505 & HandSonic follow it. That being said... should I just go MIDI out (from the DJ-808) into the RC-505. Then go out of the 505 into the HandSonic? Do I need to set all the MIDI channels to the same #? Do I need to set the 808 as the MASTER clock?

I'm a bit overwhelmed & confused about setting up the MIDI. Any help is much appreciated!!

Chino 7:27 PM - 12 August, 2017

After some experimenting I managed to get everything (DJ-808, HandSonic, KP3+, RC-505 & the Kaossilator Pro+) all MIDI connected. It all works great now!

I also discovered a way to control the Sample volume with the TR/SAMPLER fader…

1. Select Sampler(upper left of SDJ screen)

2. Go to the Sampler OUTPUT(middle right of SDJ screen) & select 'A' INSTEAD of 'M'.

3. This will allow Sample Volume control using the TR/SAMPLER fader no matter which sample bank is selected.

DJKayce 7:52 PM - 12 August, 2017

Quote:

I also discovered a way to control the Sample volume with the TR/SAMPLER fader…

1. Select Sampler(upper left of SDJ screen)

2. Go to the Sampler OUTPUT(middle right of SDJ screen) & select 'A' INSTEAD of 'M'.

3. This will allow Sample Volume control using the TR/SAMPLER fader no matter which sample bank is selected.

Good news.. This was one of my dislikes back then. I will keep tracking this tread. Thanks.

DJ Tecniq 10:26 PM - 12 August, 2017

Quote:

Congrats, I love this controller! Only reason why I did not buy it was that it is massive and my home studio is small plus I need a smaller setup for mobile gigs. I will get one as a future home studio setup when I have a larger space.

That MC7000 is nice and has DVS support w/upgrade or the NS6ii as well is looking pretty snazzy.

Chino 6:26 PM - 14 August, 2017

Roland has released two new controllers…the DJ-505 & DJ-202. Check out the link below for more info...

www.roland.com

jackdhouse 6:53 PM - 14 August, 2017

Saw that ...hope that they have a firmware update to the 808 to match the added drum sounds / features.

DJ Tecniq 10:07 AM - 15 August, 2017

Quote:

Roland has released two new controllers…the DJ-505 & DJ-202. Check out the link below for more info...

www.roland.com

That 505 looks dope but the jogwheels look quite small and I love that it's DVS upgrade ready for my Technics. Anyone know this price?

Chino 12:16 PM - 15 August, 2017

Quote:

Anyone know this price?

Roland hasn't released the price or release date yet.

John Calipari 1:15 PM - 15 August, 2017

I wonder what the size of that 202 is. It would be nice to have a back-up Full Featured controller that would fit in my Laptop bag to prep and work on material at a Coffee Shop or something but that newly announced DJ2GO2 just lacks too much.

SG SOUNDS 1:34 PM - 15 August, 2017

Quote:

I wonder what the size of that 202 is. It would be nice to have a back-up Full Featured controller that would fit in my Laptop bag to prep and work on material at a Coffee Shop or something but that newly announced DJ2GO2 just lacks too much.

would be killer if it has the same soundcard as the dj 808

DJKayce 2:17 PM - 15 August, 2017

Quote:

Anyone know this price?

Roland hasn't released the price or release date yet.

I think it will be in the range of $799 to $849
And 202 will be around $499.

U know they are going after SX2 & SR so their price will be slightly under Pioneer current price range.

jackdhouse 2:58 PM - 15 August, 2017

B&H is showing 505 @699 and 202 @299

Pete Input 8:22 AM - 19 August, 2017

Last night a first (6 hour) gig with Roland. :)
Uuuuhhh... what a beautiful machine. I love it. :)

deejayayup 1:29 PM - 19 August, 2017

Definitely interested in upgrading my DDJ-SR to a 505. I've never needed 4 channels so it's good to see a top end controller with 2 channels. Hopefully it is like the 808 in every other department.

Chino 3:49 PM - 19 August, 2017

Quote:

I wonder what the size of that 202 is?

www.roland.com

It's about an inch wider than a Denon MC6000mk2. Its definitely very portable & the platters are larger than the Denon MC6000mk2. Roland had a really nice booth at the DJ Expo. All their new controllers & boutique series products where on display for DJs to try out.

Chino 5:12 PM - 19 August, 2017

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Hopefully it is like the 808 in every other department.

There are some differences…

Roland DJ-505

1. NON Mirrored layout
2. No USB ports for directly connecting other Aira product
3. TR-S drum machine has 4 additional sounds (total of 8) & the ability to MUTE those individual sounds.
4. Smaller pitch faders
5. No indicator displays on the jog wheels
7. No volume faders for the individual sounds of the TR-S drum machine
8. No voice transformer.

I like that Roland kept the MIDI out port in order to connect other devices. I also appreciate that this controller operates as a standalone mixer & is Serato DVS Upgrade Ready. However, I did miss the indicator display on the job wheels & I also prefer the longer pitch faders of the DJ-808.

To sum it up…
If I was in the market for a solid 2 channel Serato controller (that has a standalone mixer & is Serato DVS Upgrade ready), then the Roland DJ-505 would be my first choice.

DJ Marv the Maverick 6:17 PM - 19 August, 2017

I wonder why they changed design to non mirrored which I preferred.

Maybe an MK2 of the 808 will follow soon with non mirrored layout.

Size wise how does it compare to the MCX 8000?

What's the x fader like? Innofader compatible?

I'm of two minds

Sell the 6000MK2 and get the 505

or Sell the MCX8000 and get the 808

Chino 8:28 PM - 19 August, 2017

Quote:

Size wise how does it compare to the MCX 8000?

What's the x fader like? Innofader compatible?

I'm of two minds

Sell the 6000MK2 and get the 505

or Sell the MCX8000 and get the 808

Size wise the DJ-505 is shorter by 8 inches (width) & shorter by 1 inch tall (Depth). The fader feels like it's the same stock fader as the one found in the DJ-808. It's slightly better than the stock fader of the MCx8000 especially after you make the cut in adjustments.

I couldn't tell if the stock fader was Innofader upgradeable. The demo DJ-505 at the expo didn't have any top screws near the crossfader that could be removed to access the stock fader. Maybe there is a bottom entrance point to access the cross fader but I didn't get a chance to lift up the controller to find out.

Your next purchase decision depends largely on the type of events that you do. If you do a lot of weddings, corporate events etc.that require a second mic then the Denon MC6000mk2 is a no brainer as a backup. If your primarily in the clubs and want to try doing some live remixing/drum beats then the Roland DJ-808 or DJ-505 is the way to do.

Chino 8:31 PM - 19 August, 2017

*way to go. (I think Im doing to put in a feature request for a forum edit button!!)

Chino 8:55 PM - 19 August, 2017

For my particular situation… selling the MCx8000 & buying the Roland DJ-808 was the best decision that I made!!

I no longer have to stress over screen freezes, audio dropouts/distortion or controller freezes . The Roland DJ-808 just works like it's suppose to.

You will also notice a BIG difference in the platter latency (or lack there of) with the DJ-808. I also have fun incorporating live remixing with the TR-S drum machine.

Btw, the CUE buttons work properly too. A lit CUE buttons represents 'ON' when pressed. An unlit CUE button represents 'OFF'. Simple. It's the attention to the small design details that really makes me appreciate the DJ-808!

DJ Marv the Maverick 12:14 AM - 20 August, 2017

Thanks for that. I'm primarily a bar/club dj. I will keep the 6000 as back up

938MyDJ 6:10 AM - 20 August, 2017

The next NON-Mirror upgrade of the 808 must be the size of the SZ....

wth 2 USB ports for switch overs too.

😀😀😀

938MyDJ 6:13 AM - 20 August, 2017

Yeah! It is the BIG BROTHER that I wanted, LOL!

Chino 12:38 AM - 23 August, 2017

Roland DJ-808 Demo at Roland's booth at the DJ Expo…

Watch www.youtube.com

jackdhouse 12:58 AM - 23 August, 2017

Mad skills. It was cuz of dj tone arm's youtube channel that i got back into mixin and decided to purchase the dj-808.

05spoof 1:49 PM - 26 August, 2017

burn mother AYYY burrrn....lol

What makes the 808 less prone to latency...is it the hardware or software? Shame the 505 doesn't have a dual deck function.

Chino 3:02 PM - 26 August, 2017

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What makes the 808 less prone to latency...is it the hardware or software?

That's a good questions! Maybe Roland or Serato can chime in & answer that?

What I do know is that the platters FEEL GREAT!! Whatever Roland did… they did it right!!

DJ Tecniq 5:20 PM - 26 August, 2017

Quote:

Definitely interested in upgrading my DDJ-SR to a 505. I've never needed 4 channels so it's good to see a top end controller with 2 channels. Hopefully it is like the 808 in every other department.

No shit right. 4 ch is overkill for me I'd like more space for my Technics w/DVS.

DJ Marv the Maverick 1:31 PM - 4 September, 2017

DJ 808 acquired. Damn its a loud controller.

808 drum kit on auto sequence, Despacito will know no peace tonight

😀

Chino 4:32 PM - 4 September, 2017

Quote:

DJ 808 acquired. Damn its a loud controller.

808 drum kit on auto sequence, Despacito will know no peace tonight

😀

NICE!! Remember, page 22 of the owner's manual is your best friend! You may need to adjust some settings to get the DJ-808 setup the way that you like. I would recommend setting the Master output attenuator level to -3 or -6.

Keep rockin' 'Despacito' & try playing 'Mi Gente' by J Balvin! That's another latin club banger!!
: )

DJ Marv the Maverick 10:46 AM - 5 September, 2017

Quote:

DJ 808 acquired. Damn its a loud controller.

808 drum kit on auto sequence, Despacito will know no peace tonight

😀

NICE!! Remember, page 22 of the owner's manual is your best friend! You may need to adjust some settings to get the DJ-808 setup the way that you like. I would recommend setting the Master output attenuator level to -3 or -6.

Keep rockin' 'Despacito' & try playing 'Mi Gente' by J Balvin! That's another latin club banger!!
: )

Did yours ship with the full manual? Mine came with the shorter quick start guide. Downloaded the full user manual from the site.

I registered the Roland DJ 808 and got the free extended 3 year warranty 😀

I had connectivity issues and went through the Serato guide. Had to delete the Rane 62 driver from my drive. I think it was causing the problem, now it connects normally even with hot plugging. Im guessing the 808 is not class compliant.

Chino did you stick with the stock fader?

I've got a Innofader Mini PNP, tempted to install it.

Adjusted the cut distant to 0 on the stock and it's sharp.

I appreciate the weight of the controller too not as heavy as the 8000.

Chino 11:50 AM - 5 September, 2017

Quote:

quote]Did yours ship with the full manual?

No. I had to download it off of Roland's website too.

Quote:

Chino did you stick with the stock fader?

Last week I removed the Mini Innofader PNP & put the stock Roland fader back in. The sound started bleeding through on the mini Innofader PNP. It has only been 4 months past the 1 year warranty. : ( I spoke to a Rep selling Innofaders at the DJ Expo. He mentioned that there are some new 'improved' Innofaders available now. I may buy a new one soon.

Quote:

I appreciate the weight of the controller too not as heavy as the 8000.

Me too! I currently transport the DJ-808 in a 'Gator G-Mix' case but I may buy the official Roland bag too.

DJ Marv the Maverick 1:11 PM - 5 September, 2017

I barely used the Innofader with the 8000. I removed it couple of weeks after I installed it. Might try it out for a few weeks with the 808.

Yeah the new mini Innofader is out.

Mini Innofader PNP Plus www.innofader.com

DJ Marv the Maverick 10:39 PM - 7 September, 2017

@chino

did you notice a bit of dead zone around the 0 point of the pitch.

I almost have to move in either direction a bit before the pitch changes

Chino 12:33 AM - 8 September, 2017

Quote:

@chino

did you notice a bit of dead zone around the 0 point of the pitch.

I almost have to move in either direction a bit before the pitch changes

I do notice a slight dead zone around '0' pitch too. I believe Mojaxx from DJ City mentioned that Roland is working on a firmware fix to tighten up the overall pitch resolution of the DJ-808. Hopefully, it will be released around the same time as SDJ 2.0. - hint, hint…

Speaking of SDJ 2.0… It would be nice if Serato added direct record live to the pads and some basic sample editing functionality.

Have you had a chance to gig with the DJ-808 yet? What are your overall impressions of the DJ-808 so far?

DJ Marv the Maverick 6:24 AM - 8 September, 2017

I wouldn't hold my breath on SDJ 2.0 being anything other than just support for new hardware. They already at 1.9.8.

Havent gigged it with yet, waiting on some coolorcaps.

Initial impressions good.

Have you done a >4-5 hour gig with yours before? How did it perform?

Chino 11:54 AM - 8 September, 2017

Quote:

Have you done a >4-5 hour gig with yours before? How did it perform?

Ive done a few 4-5 hr gigs (over 10) with the DJ-808. Everything performed as it should with NO freezes, audio dropouts, distortion or other wierd craziness.

I did experience the microphone peaking(blinking red). I turned down the mic sensitivity on the DJ-808 & the mic receiver itelf. After that, everything was all good.

Chino 12:08 PM - 8 September, 2017

Btw, Im running SDJ @ 2ms usb audio latency with Pitch N' Time on. No problems at all even after my computer is running straight for 4-5 hours.

I still need to do a stress test with the DJ-808, SDJ 1.9.6 & ME.

Mid 2012 MBP 2.6 i7 quad core 16GB RAM OSX 10.11.5 750GB HD

938MyDJ 3:46 PM - 8 September, 2017

I've ran mine since end of Dec 2016 on a regular weekly basis at the club without a problem.

SDJ 1.9.5
2014 Macbook
Yosemite 10.9.5

*When 1.9.6 was launched, I installed it to this laptop to test the new anti-drift feature in my S9+1200s. When I was rehearsing/prepping at home and used 1.9.6 with the 808, I had hiccups... never used it (1.9.6 + 808) from that moment.

DJ Marv the Maverick 9:37 PM - 8 September, 2017

Thanks for the feedback. Will give it a go tomorrow night. 4 hours gig. I installed the Innofader mini pnp P, extra crispy now.

I don't suppose there is a way to adjust the platter sensitivity, i'm light handed and in my practice it "escapes" sometimes.

938MyDJ 10:26 PM - 8 September, 2017

That happens to me too...

I hope Roland folks visit the Serato forums too...
They are one of the best companies in updating Firmware/Driver.

djcrap 2:50 AM - 16 September, 2017

Quote:

quote]Did yours ship with the full manual?

No. I had to download it off of Roland's website too.

Quote:

Chino did you stick with the stock fader?

Last week I removed the Mini Innofader PNP & put the stock Roland fader back in. The sound started bleeding through on the mini Innofader PNP. It has only been 4 months past the 1 year warranty. : ( I spoke to a Rep selling Innofaders at the DJ Expo. He mentioned that there are some new 'improved' Innofaders available now. I may buy a new one soon.

Quote:

I appreciate the weight of the controller too not as heavy as the 8000.

Me too! I currently transport the DJ-808 in a 'Gator G-Mix' case but I may buy the official Roland bag too.

My innofader mini plus is bleeding too. On the right channel. It bleeds if i adjust the cross fader to zero under the setting where you go panel and press the power button at the sMe time then press 7 on the sequencer . But if i set it to 2 or 3 it doesn't bleed

emarx 7:54 PM - 16 September, 2017

Hey all,

Please note that there is a limitation to what software calibration can do to the mini Innofader PNP or Plus hardware. For example, if the mini Innofader PNP or Plus is off from 0mm to 1mm then turns on at 1mm, the software CANNOT make the part magically turn on at 0.5mm. So please make a point of also doing hardware calibration to fix this problem if you find that the software alone doesn't give you satisfying results

For the mini Innofader PNP, please follow the instructions here:
www.innofader.com

And here are the instructions for the mini Innofader Plus:
www.innofader.com

For example if you have issues with bleeding on the right side on the mini Innofader Plus, you follow the instructions for "Right Increase Lag". More specifically, you hold the calibration button while swiping the fader from the right side to the center of the fader, which is the "CB" pattern.

Hope this is helpful.

Elliot

DJ Marv the Maverick 7:28 AM - 17 September, 2017

Quote:

For example if you have issues with bleeding on the right side on the mini Innofader Plus, you follow the instructions for "Right Increase Lag". More specifically, you hold the calibration button while swiping the fader from the right side to the center of the fader, which is the "CB" pattern.

Hope this is helpful.

Elliot

I gave up trying to calibrate the Mini Innofader PNP P. That button is near impossible to hold it down and doing all the fader required fader movements.

I just slapped it in DJ 808.

Is there a way to reset the Mini Innofader PNP P to default? I feel I might have done some changes during my failed attempt at calibrating it.

NUdisc0 4:47 AM - 21 September, 2017

Apparently the pitch control on the DJ-808 is not tight enough. That's a no for me. I am too old skool to use sync.

Chino 12:03 PM - 21 September, 2017

Quote:

Apparently the pitch control on the DJ-808 is not tight enough. That's a no for me. I am too old skool to use sync.

Back in the day, DJs would ride the pitch to accomodate for pitch variations in a song. Different tools today but same concept
(controllers versus 1200s).

The issue with the pitch on the DJ-808 is more of a resolution issue with SDJ....meaninig how SDJ reads the pitch to be .1, .2 etc.

NUdisc0 1:07 PM - 21 September, 2017

I ride the pitch slider, but on a technics sl1200 mk2, even on my Korg Kaos Dj, for drum machine music, I can lock the two songs without drift. I only mentioned this issue with the DJ-808 because a review from DJCity pointed out this problem with the unit.

Chino 1:33 PM - 21 September, 2017

Quote:

I only mentioned this issue with the DJ-808 because a review from DJCity pointed out this problem with the unit.

All good! Mentioning issues brings it to the attention of developers so (hopefully) things will get fixed!!

Personally, I find that the pitch on most controllers that I've used to not be as accurate(tight) as the pitch on my 1200s. That could just be my personal preference though...LOL.

NUdisc0 1:57 PM - 21 September, 2017

Surprisingly the pitch on my Kaoss dj is super tight. Tough to get it dialed in, but it does not drift once it is set. I do not have another serato controller to compare...I am new with Serato.

938MyDJ 2:05 PM - 21 September, 2017

Thou shall not seek orange seeds inside an apple!

Chino 6:25 PM - 21 September, 2017

Another nice demo of the DJ-808 showing the benefits of the ultra low latency platters….

Watch www.youtube.com

John Calipari 6:38 PM - 21 September, 2017

Quote:

I find that the pitch on most controllers that I've used to not be as accurate(tight) as the pitch on my 1200s.

If your talking about Tech1200, I'd go as far as claiming I have never used another pitching device of any kind as Accurate & Steady as an MK2.

Chino 6:48 PM - 21 September, 2017

Quote:

If your talking about Tech1200, I'd go as far as claiming I have never used another pitching device of any kind as Accurate & Steady as an MK2.

+1

NUdisc0 8:55 PM - 21 September, 2017

At 0.01% I can keep song locked like sl1200s if truly 0.01% and the player keeps it steady like my pacemaker dj device.

DJKayce 2:17 AM - 22 September, 2017

Quote:

Apparently the pitch control on the DJ-808 is not tight enough. That's a no for me. I am too old skool to use sync.

I feel you on this. I returned mine after a couple of days and this was one of my main reasons. if you scroll up at some point, you will see my comments about this controller. I like the controller a lot. but after spending almost 1500, I couldn't justify having small small problems with the unit. Am still keeping an eye on this thread and online to when Roland will release a firmware to correct these issues. I will jump back into it and I kept the Roland case knowing that I will still buy it again in the future.

Since then things has changed
Price got reduced to 1299.
Roland coming out with 505 which looks interesting.
Found out that MC7000 fits perfectly in my Roland 808 case. Currently am using MC7000 and my back up MC6000MK2.
So far liking the 7000 by Denon tho the sound card on 808 is far better.

NUdisc0 2:46 AM - 22 September, 2017

To me a good controller must have a high resolution pitch control. There is no point in using a system that does not allow one to mix precisely even if the rest is excellent.

DJ Marv the Maverick 3:15 AM - 22 September, 2017

I sent an email to their UK support earlier today. I included a link to Mojaxx YouTube review highlighting the pitch issue.

Quote:

Hi
Thank you or your email.
I have passed your enquiry onto the DJ Specialist.
He is away until Monday and will respond when he returns.
Hope that’s ok.
Regards

A few more emails from you guys and we will see what the response will be. So get firing.

Chino 3:32 AM - 22 September, 2017

Quote:

I sent an email to their UK support earlier today. I included a link to Mojaxx YouTube review highlighting the pitch issue.

Quote:

Hi
Thank you or your email.
I have passed your enquiry onto the DJ Specialist.
He is away until Monday and will respond when he returns.
Hope that’s ok.
Regards

A few more emails from you guys and we will see what the response will be. So get firing.

^^^ This is what I like to see! Owners/users taking the initiative to help get the issues resolved!!

NUdisc0 4:14 PM - 22 September, 2017

Hah, a man of action. You will need to follow up. It is the following up that matters.

938MyDJ 6:37 PM - 22 September, 2017

There's a big chance that the pitch-fader increments issue will be updated on a firmware along with the release of the 505 & 202... *These units have shorter faders and will be affected more if their pitch resolution will be the same as the 808.

And we'll GET additional 4 tracks on TR-S!

djcrap 11:25 PM - 22 September, 2017

Quote:

Another nice demo of the DJ-808 showing the benefits of the ultra low latency platters….

Watch www.youtube.com

This is the video that sold me to the tightness of the ultra low lantency platter

Watch m.youtube.com

DJ Marv the Maverick 8:35 PM - 29 September, 2017

Installed 10.13 on a bog standard mid 2014 13" MBP.

Its not my gigging laptop.

So far so good.

I'm using my HFS formatted external HD too.

John Calipari 9:57 PM - 29 September, 2017

Quote:

Installed 10.13 on a bog standard mid 2014 13" MBP.

Its not my gigging laptop.

So far so good.

I'm using my HFS formatted external HD too.

But your formatting you system drive to APFS right?

DJ Marv the Maverick 7:40 AM - 30 September, 2017

I think that got done during the installation process.

John Calipari 3:47 AM - 1 October, 2017

Quote:

I think that got done during the installation process.

Probably, during the Dev Betas, the installer let the user pick between HFS+, APFS, and APFS w/Encryption, APFS being the most performance driven. Now, if the mac has a SSD system drive, I think it may format or convert to APFS automatically, or if it is a Fusion or Platter Drive, it forces HFS+ Journaled.

Which leads to my next question, whether or not you made a High Sierra USB Installer and did a clean install followed my migration assistant from a time capsule back-up?

I'd certainly dive into the Hard drive and look through the library & extensions folders. You'd be shocked at the old shit that even migration assistant re-establishes, let alone what installing over top of a previous version of macOS leaves.

DJ Marv the Maverick 8:43 AM - 1 October, 2017

it wasn't a clean install as it was a spare mac. I was just concerned with seeing how it handles Serato.

I usually do a clean install of new OS on my gigging macbook when the I update. Haven't done that yet why waiting for official go ahead from everyone ie Serato and hardware guys.

JDMC 11:17 AM - 2 October, 2017

Quote:

I sent an email to their UK support earlier today. I included a link to Mojaxx YouTube review highlighting the pitch issue.

Quote:

Hi
Thank you or your email.
I have passed your enquiry onto the DJ Specialist.
He is away until Monday and will respond when he returns.
Hope that’s ok.
Regards

A few more emails from you guys and we will see what the response will be. So get firing.

^^^ This is what I like to see! Owners/users taking the initiative to help get the issues resolved!!

2 Questions

1. So it's been a week since the Monday he said he would reply, did he? I've been researching controllers for about a week and about to pull the trigger on either a Dj-808 or Denon Mc7000, this pitch issue is a big deciding factor.

2. Little backstory, I've been singing, rapping, beatboxing, guitar playing, hand drumming, everything music basically. This will be my first controller and shot at Djing/possibly live producing. I also have a sizable record collection that I think would be cool to mix in. I was wondering if there's a good way to be able to set up digital mixing on the controller and route in turn tables with records as well?

Chino 1:35 PM - 2 October, 2017

Quote:

I sent an email to their UK support earlier today. I included a link to Mojaxx YouTube review highlighting the pitch issue.

Quote:

Hi
Thank you or your email.
I have passed your enquiry onto the DJ Specialist.
He is away until Monday and will respond when he returns.
Hope that’s ok.
Regards

A few more emails from you guys and we will see what the response will be. So get firing.

^^^ This is what I like to see! Owners/users taking the initiative to help get the issues resolved!!

2 Questions

1. So it's been a week since the Monday he said he would reply, did he? I've been researching controllers for about a week and about to pull the trigger on either a Dj-808 or Denon Mc7000, this pitch issue is a big deciding factor.

2. Little backstory, I've been singing, rapping, beatboxing, guitar playing, hand drumming, everything music basically. This will be my first controller and shot at Djing/possibly live producing. I also have a sizable record collection that I think would be cool to mix in. I was wondering if there's a good way to be able to set up digital mixing on the controller and route in turn tables with records as well?

1. 'Rumors' are that Roland is working on tightening up the overall pitch & implementing some new SDJ/DJ-808 sampler functionality. Hopefully we will see this in the next DJ-808 firmware/SDJ 2.0 update. There has been no 'direct official word' from Roland though.

2. As far as live production… The DJ-808 or Roland DJ-505 is designed exactly for live remix, production & general jammin' out. Turntables can be plugged directly into the built-in standalone mixer.

I run my DJ-808 with MIDI out to my Boss RC-505. I also have a Roland HandSonic HPD-20 hooked up along with the Korg KP3+ & Kaossilator Pro +. It all syncs up great via MIDI.

JDMC 5:24 PM - 2 October, 2017

Quote:

I sent an email to their UK support earlier today. I included a link to Mojaxx YouTube review highlighting the pitch issue.

Quote:

Hi
Thank you or your email.
I have passed your enquiry onto the DJ Specialist.
He is away until Monday and will respond when he returns.
Hope that’s ok.
Regards

A few more emails from you guys and we will see what the response will be. So get firing.

^^^ This is what I like to see! Owners/users taking the initiative to help get the issues resolved!!

2 Questions

1. So it's been a week since the Monday he said he would reply, did he? I've been researching controllers for about a week and about to pull the trigger on either a Dj-808 or Denon Mc7000, this pitch issue is a big deciding factor.

2. Little backstory, I've been singing, rapping, beatboxing, guitar playing, hand drumming, everything music basically. This will be my first controller and shot at Djing/possibly live producing. I also have a sizable record collection that I think would be cool to mix in. I was wondering if there's a good way to be able to set up digital mixing on the controller and route in turn tables with records as well?

1. 'Rumors' are that Roland is working on tightening up the overall pitch & implementing some new SDJ/DJ-808 sampler functionality. Hopefully we will see this in the next DJ-808 firmware/SDJ 2.0 update. There has been no 'direct official word' from Roland though.

2. As far as live production… The DJ-808 or Roland DJ-505 is designed exactly for live remix, production & general jammin' out. Turntables can be plugged directly into the built-in standalone mixer.

I run my DJ-808 with MIDI out to my Boss RC-505. I also have a Roland HandSonic HPD-20 hooked up along with the Korg KP3+ & Kaossilator Pro +. It all syncs up great via MIDI.

I e-mailed them with the subject: Looking to buy but...

I was looking to buy either the Denon MC7000 or the Roland Dj-808.
I am pretty split in the middle, I am thinking I want to get the DJ-808
but the pitch fader resolution in Watch www.youtube.com
and mentioned on forums as jumping up to .04 or .05 at a time when sliding the pitch fader
is a deciding factor in my purchase. I saw on the video that in May you guys told Mojaxx you would
release a firmware update, it is now 6 months later and there is no word of the update.

I'm not sure I can jump into buying this product with no show of response on fixing this.
Can you give me a timeline on the update, is it even happening?

DJ Marv the Maverick 5:35 PM - 2 October, 2017

Haven't heard back from them

I will shoot them an email tomorrow, its 18:35 here now, i'm sure he is home with his missus right now.

Sarp 8:48 PM - 2 October, 2017

Hey everyone,

Just thought I would jump in regarding the pitch fader update. I had the DJ 808 live training video towards the end of August and brought up the issue to Daniel (Roland Team). He said that they would release the update towards mid October (fingers crossed).

Adressing another issue regarding the headphone cue volume, this applies to macbooks only. The audio driver in mac for some reason allows the volume to be controlled from the volume keys on the keyboard. So, if you’re having lower volume issues, make sure that your mac’s output is set to internal speakers and not the dj 808. Also make sure that the levels of 808 are proper in the MIDI setup.

Finally, to help in the issues of sampler volume, make sure that it is assigned to a channel besides the master output. Another thing is that you can adjust the level of individual samples by selecting them at the top and moving trim. You can also adjust their pitch.

Hope this helps and you guys can contact me with any other questions,

Cheers,
Sarp

DJKayce 9:53 PM - 2 October, 2017

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Hey everyone,

Just thought I would jump in regarding the pitch fader update. I had the DJ 808 live training video towards the end of August and brought up the issue to Daniel (Roland Team). He said that they would release the update towards mid October (fingers crossed).

Adressing another issue regarding the headphone cue volume, this applies to macbooks only. The audio driver in mac for some reason allows the volume to be controlled from the volume keys on the keyboard. So, if you’re having lower volume issues, make sure that your mac’s output is set to internal speakers and not the dj 808. Also make sure that the levels of 808 are proper in the MIDI setup.

Finally, to help in the issues of sampler volume, make sure that it is assigned to a channel besides the master output. Another thing is that you can adjust the level of individual samples by selecting them at the top and moving trim. You can also adjust their pitch.

Hope this helps and you guys can contact me with any other questions,

Cheers,
Sarp

I can see good things coming this month for DJ 808. Am still monitoring this thread.

dj Krazey leo 10:51 PM - 2 October, 2017

+1

NUdisc0 3:22 AM - 3 October, 2017

Hopefully mid October...2017.

DJ Marv the Maverick 1:43 PM - 3 October, 2017

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Hiya Marv,
Thanks for the info.
Are you able to leave this with me for a couple of days, just until I hear back from our colleagues in Japan?
Cheers,

Quote:

Hiya Marv,
Thanks for the info.
I’ve tested your query on two different DJ-808’s.
I am getting a slight ‘dead spot’ however it’s no more than 5mm in either direction.
Do you still get a 10-20mm ‘dead spot’ in all tempo ranges? (+-8, 16 & 50)?
Cheers,
Speak soon,

Response from Roland UK DJ Specialist!

Sarp 4:22 PM - 5 October, 2017

Just had a quick question, if I wanted to use the novation circuit synthesizer with the 808, would the usb ports in the back send and receive midi data / audio signal? Or does it strictly support AIRA gear?

Chino 4:52 PM - 5 October, 2017

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Just had a quick question, if I wanted to use the novation circuit synthesizer with the 808, would the usb ports in the back send and receive midi data / audio signal? Or does it strictly support AIRA gear?

My understanding is that the USB ports on the back of the DJ-808 are strictly for use with other AIRA products & Roland Boutique. The TB-3 for example, can send/receive MIDI & audio signal & power from just the USB cable.

I tried hooking up a Roland HandSonic via USB but I couldn't get audio with just the USB & power cable connected. I ended up hooking it up via MIDI and I run power & a 1/4 audio cord out separately.

Sarp 4:54 PM - 5 October, 2017

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Just had a quick question, if I wanted to use the novation circuit synthesizer with the 808, would the usb ports in the back send and receive midi data / audio signal? Or does it strictly support AIRA gear?

My understanding is that the USB ports on the back of the DJ-808 are strictly for use with other AIRA products & Roland Boutique. The TB-3 for example, can send/receive MIDI & audio signal & power from just the USB cable.

I tried hooking up a Roland HandSonic via USB but I couldn't get audio with just the USB & power cable connected. I ended up hooking it up via MIDI and I run power & a 1/4 audio cord out separately.

In that case investing in a system 1 synth might be a better option, thanks man!

Chino 5:14 PM - 5 October, 2017

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In that case investing in a system 1 synth might be a better option, thanks man!

The System 1 is nice! MIDI, audio & power all over 1 USB cable. I tried one out at a local Sam Ash. Unfortunately, I'm quickly running out of space for new equipment.

Sarp 7:09 PM - 5 October, 2017

The System 1 is nice! MIDI, audio & power all over 1 USB cable. I tried one out at a local Sam Ash. Unfortunately, I'm quickly running out of space for new equipment.

Yeah, I found a seller on reverb.com who sells it for about 300, I was intrigued with the novation as it had a step sequencer but I guess that MIDI data sync with the system 1 will also suffice. I really wanna try out the scatter function. Since you’ve tried it, can you provide a quick review of what you think? Any advice on whatever other synths or basslines you use is also welcome!

Thanks Chino

Chino 8:18 PM - 5 October, 2017

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I really wanna try out the scatter function.

The scatter function is cool. I have it on my Boss RC-505. I really like the hands on layout of the System 1. The only thing I wished it had was more keys.

Previously, I owned a MicroKORG XL. I absolutely love Korg products in general but I ended up selling it because I didn't use it as much as I thought I would. Now I use a Korg Kaossilator Pro + synced via MIDI for synth sounds. The Kaossilator is pure fun, has a bunch of synth sounds, drum loops etc & is extremely easy to use.

I also tried the Roland TB-3. It's a nice bass/acid synth. I chose the Kaossilator Pro + instead because I can save sounds to a sd card & it fits my particular music production needs.

I would recommend trying out a couple of different synths (at your local music shop) to see which one you like best.

938MyDJ 8:43 PM - 5 October, 2017

LOL!

This 808 will lead to somewhere else...
That's guaranteed!

😀

DJ Marv the Maverick 11:28 PM - 5 October, 2017

today's email from roland uk

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Hiya Marv,
Thanks for your patience with this.
I have just heard back from our colleagues in Japan.

You should expect a slight ‘dead spot’ of no more than 5mm in either direction on the DJ-808. If you your DJ-808 has a ‘dead spot’ of any more than that then we would need it back for repair.

The ‘dead spot’ is there to absorb the variance of the slider, there is also a ‘dead spot’ on both ends of the slider but if it’s any more than 5mm then it’s faulty.

Please let me know if you have more than 5mm tolerance and I’ll get your unit booked in for repair. If this is the case I would need the units serial number and your address details for collection.

Cheers,

Chino 1:09 PM - 6 October, 2017

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ou should expect a slight ‘dead spot’ of no more than 5mm in either direction on the DJ-808. If you your DJ-808 has a ‘dead spot’ of any more than that then we would need it back for repair.

The ‘dead spot’ is there to absorb the variance of the slider, there is also a ‘dead spot’ on both ends of the slider but if it’s any more than 5mm then it’s faulty.

Please let me know if you have more than 5mm tolerance and I’ll get your unit booked in for repair. If this is the case I would need the units serial number and your address details for collection.

Now that is how a PROFESSIONAL music equipment manufacturer handles customer service!!

The Roland rep addressed the issue, explained why it was designed that way & offered a remedy if the controller fell below design parameters.

No where in that exchange did Roland put the blame on the owner/end user. KUDOS & THANK YOU Roland for being professional!!

NUdisc0 1:43 PM - 6 October, 2017

Roland still needs to fix that pitch control problem. And it is a problem. We do not care about having deadbands on the pitch slider in our application.

DJ Marv the Maverick 2:06 PM - 6 October, 2017

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ou should expect a slight ‘dead spot’ of no more than 5mm in either direction on the DJ-808. If you your DJ-808 has a ‘dead spot’ of any more than that then we would need it back for repair.

The ‘dead spot’ is there to absorb the variance of the slider, there is also a ‘dead spot’ on both ends of the slider but if it’s any more than 5mm then it’s faulty.

Please let me know if you have more than 5mm tolerance and I’ll get your unit booked in for repair. If this is the case I would need the units serial number and your address details for collection.

Now that is how a PROFESSIONAL music equipment manufacturer handles customer service!!

The Roland rep addressed the issue, explained why it was designed that way & offered a remedy if the controller fell below design parameters.

No where in that exchange did Roland put the blame on the owner/end user. KUDOS & THANK YOU Roland for being professional!!

What's one mark in mm? 5 or 10mm?

I have to get to the first mark in either direction before any movement of the pitch in Serato

938MyDJ 6:29 PM - 12 October, 2017

DJ-202 & DJ-505 are now supported on the latest SDJ but...

I don't see an update for the 808's firmware yet. :(

Some folks are excited about the pitch fader & headphone output fix.

Me, I want to see how they implemented the 8 instruments on the TR-S with just 4 faders?

*First thought was with a use of "shift" button or maybe param-control as in A,B,C,D, pages of the Sampler.*

DJ Marv the Maverick 10:08 PM - 12 October, 2017

The 202 and 505 are not on sale yet.

NUdisc0 12:21 AM - 13 October, 2017

On the other hand, the DJ-202 and DJ-505 will not come with tr-606 and tr-707, but later through a firmware update.

Junglist1SouLjA 12:49 PM - 13 October, 2017

I love reading these forums! I just returned an SX2 since it was defective and yeah, I am not trying to repeat/repost the same thing's over and over again but, I find it to be extremely essential in doing research on tech product's. Controllers around the thousand dollars area have a lot too offer and well, people's feedback does help with finalizing a decision.
Yo JDMC! I am in the same position but, why are you not considering the Denon MCX8000 instead of the MC7000? I was originally going to get the MCX8000 until reading, hearing, and encountering freezing issue's. I also was digging all of the features it has but, I don't understand why Denon hasn't resolved the freezing with over a year gone by already? I'm not trying to buy a controller that'll have to be restarted in the middle of a set. So, with the Numark NS7III looking cheap with its mostly red LED's and plasticy displays, I have decided to pull the trigger on the Roland DJ808. I do not like that it lacks needle search, true stand alone operation with touch screens, platter size and appearance but, all of it's features are definitely enticing! Everything has needle search Roland! Why not your flagship? Dual USB inputs and with one having a record option would've been dope too!
With Denon lagging on over a year with fixing it's bugs and the bugs being seemingly simple to get rid of is what has swayed me to the DJ808. I have always had an interest in production so I think it would be near impossible to get bored of it. I also like hearing how Roland has responded to inquiries.
I'll be giving Pioneer another chance with the XDJ-RX2 later on in the future. Although, seeing how someone has been waiting over a month for his repairs and hearing of nightmare stories in dealing with Pioneer's customer service had me send my defective SX2 back along with their HDJ1500'S because I am aware of those cracking and I just found out about V-Moda which is why I sent ALL of it back.

Junglist1SouLjA 1:24 PM - 13 October, 2017

BTW, does anyone think that Roland will soon come out with a second version of the DJ808, that will include needle search, touch screen displays, and basically everything that it's competitors offer within the same price range? Oh, jog-wheel resistance adjustable by knob with an increase in platter size and upping appearance would be nice also, along with the aforementioned suggestions. More metal coverage like how the middle is you know? It would not only appear nicer if the entire top half at least were covered with a metal plate but, it'd increase it's quality. All while keeping it affordable, below $1700 USD!!!
In the meantime, in between time, I'll be a semi-satisfied DJ808 owner with that plastic triple display by Numark and some quality built V-Moda headphones, (which will probably be the only perfect product).
I would like to know where I would go to read forum's on powered speaker's? I am trying to make a choice between the new Mackie Thump 12A's or, the new Peavey Dark Matter series DM112. I've heard how clear and clean the new Thump's sound but, I feel they could definitely use more bass. I don't think the DM's will hit harder but, I'd still like to hear the comparison. I like the DSP selections and the pole mount vise on the Peavey's.
When product's are the same price/or close, it really makes deciding on which to choose much much more difficult.

DJ Marv the Maverick 2:26 PM - 13 October, 2017

The implementation of hardware display seems to be an issue. More things can go wrong.

Still waiting to see how the new Rane 72 will fare with the touch screen display. Even when using HID with the Nexus 2000 CDJ the screen info is scaled down.

I will sacrifice screens and the other stuff you mentioned all day for stability and reliability. Probably a reason why some are recommending the 7000.

I had the 8000 too, had to get rid of it.

Speakers are discussed at length in other areas of the forum. General DJ Discussion.

I just got a pair of EV EKX12P and 1 EV EKX15SP

What I learnt from speaker researching on the Serato forums

"you get what you pay for"

"buy once, cry once"

"there is no such thing as a portable, lightweight active sub with earth shattering bass"

"12" tops is king when matched with great subs"

Chino 2:56 PM - 13 October, 2017

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I will sacrifice screens and the other stuff you mentioned all day for stability and reliability.

+1000!!!

NUdisc0 6:12 PM - 13 October, 2017

This is why is still prefer sl1200s, a Xone 92 and vinyl.

If there is one Numark controller i would buy, that would have to be the NS7III.

You can't expect a controller to have every feature on the market plus a built in sequencer and drum machine. Just use shift and jogwheel...

WhybeYB 12:03 AM - 17 October, 2017

Thanks for the comprehensive review!!

I got a question, is DJ808 able to handle outdoor festivals? Do I need an external mixer for that situation?

Anyone help? Thanks in advance!

deejayayup 9:03 PM - 18 October, 2017

So... I wanted to ask if people are happy with the reliability of their 808?

I'm leaning more towards the DJ-505 than towards the DDJ-SR2 because of the fun factor of the drum sequencer. However, I trust Pioneer when it comes to reliability that I do any of the other DJ gear companies. I just think the SR2 is lacking in features considering the price.

Chino 9:05 PM - 18 October, 2017

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I got a question, is DJ808 able to handle outdoor festivals? Do I need an external mixer for that situation?

I've used the DJ-808 at a couple of outdoor events (nothing as large as an outdoor festival, though). It sounded GREAT!

From my experience, most sound guys will set up a pair of XLR cables so you can plug directly into their sound.

Chino 9:11 PM - 18 October, 2017

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So... I wanted to ask if people are happy with the reliability of their 808?

+100000! Extremely happy!! It is WAAAAAAAAAYYYYYY BETTER with regards to stability & reliability compared to my old controller!!!

You already know which 'old' controller Im referring to…. ; )

deejayayup 9:15 PM - 18 October, 2017

Quote:

So... I wanted to ask if people are happy with the reliability of their 808?

+100000! Extremely happy!! It is WAAAAAAAAAYYYYYY BETTER with regards to stability & reliability compared to my old controller!!!

You already know which 'old' controller Im referring to…. ; )

Ugh... Don't remind me! I'm sitting next to the box containing the replacement right now! I can't wait for a decent offer on eBay and to get the thing out of my life.

I know you play a lot of long gigs like me so I'm trusting you on this one Chino. I want something reliable but I already have an SR so spending £630 on a slight upgrade doesn't inspire me.

Chino 9:32 PM - 18 October, 2017

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I know you play a lot of long gigs like me so I'm trusting you on this one Chino. I want something reliable but I already have an SR so spending £630 on a slight upgrade doesn't inspire me.

The DJ-808 has definitely been stable & reliable for me! It is also fun & inspiring!! I went & bought a bunch of other music production equipment to connect to it too.

SG SOUNDS 12:35 AM - 19 October, 2017

The sound card of the 808 is just by far superior to what the pioneer controllers offer

Coherence 2:35 PM - 19 October, 2017

Reliability wise, I've played at least one 3 hour set on it every week since I got it in March and only had one hiccup that was due to a corrupt file in SDJ, not anything to do with the 808. It has been a tank.

deejayayup 2:21 PM - 2 November, 2017

I've pre-ordered the 505 now. Looking forward to it. These Roland controllers look like they allow you to get a lot more creative with your DJ sets.

I do wish they would release a high-end 2 channel controller though!! I'd ideally have liked a smaller version of the 808 with the track marker jog wheels and the same soundcard.

DJKayce 3:37 PM - 2 November, 2017

Roland 505 & 202 are shipping from today. In stock most places. Check PSSL.com

Fellas any updates on the 808?

deejayayup 3:54 PM - 2 November, 2017

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Roland 505 & 202 are shipping from today. In stock most places. Check PSSL.com

Fellas any updates on the 808?

I'm in the UK so not sure when our retailers are getting stock.

Chino 4:16 PM - 2 November, 2017

I just checked Roland's website. No news or updates on a new firmware release for the DJ-808.

938MyDJ 10:50 PM - 2 November, 2017

I have faith in Roland!

Unlike Denon’s promise of Engine update for the MC8000... I know this will come sooner or later.

I will bet a dollar that the 808 firmware update will even come earlier than SDJ’s Daytime Mode and/or OSA Remapping. LOL!

NUdisc0 3:53 AM - 4 November, 2017

My DJ-202 is scheduled to be delivered to my home on Monday.

deejayayup 1:49 PM - 13 November, 2017

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My DJ-202 is scheduled to be delivered to my home on Monday.

I've just checked on the site I pre-ordered the 505 from and it's now been pushed back to 20th December. I wish more DJ tech companies would be more like Pioneer and announce products within a month or so of release, rather than 3 or 4 months.

DJ Tecniq 12:11 AM - 14 November, 2017

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My DJ-202 is scheduled to be delivered to my home on Monday.

I've just checked on the site I pre-ordered the 505 from and it's now been pushed back to 20th December. I wish more DJ tech companies would be more like Pioneer and announce products within a month or so of release, rather than 3 or 4 months.

Interesting agiprodj says ships Nov 21st. Maybe cancel your preorder and try them -> www.agiprodj.com

So Fresh 3:06 PM - 14 November, 2017

MY 808 has been back twice for a repair and is now being replaced with a new unit

the up faders on channel 3 and 4 ( which are not user replaceable) were bleeding and dropping out

I love the 808 its great but do have a few worries about keeping it.

the lack of firmware updates on a-flagship model that are being superseded by products lower in the range is a real kick in the balls!!! and no clear road map for feature release from roland and serato for the unit is just not on.

they are all over new products but nothing on existing

I have had problems with my unit but also had a lot of fun so its a bitter sweet relationship but i do think its time and would be fair for serato and roland to announce what they plan for the unit.

Coherence 5:40 PM - 14 November, 2017

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MY 808 has been back twice for a repair and is now being replaced with a new unit

the up faders on channel 3 and 4 ( which are not user replaceable) were bleeding and dropping out

I love the 808 its great but do have a few worries about keeping it.

the lack of firmware updates on a-flagship model that are being superseded by products lower in the range is a real kick in the balls!!! and no clear road map for feature release from roland and serato for the unit is just not on.

they are all over new products but nothing on existing

I have had problems with my unit but also had a lot of fun so its a bitter sweet relationship but i do think its time and would be fair for serato and roland to announce what they plan for the unit.

I've had zero technical problems with my unit, but I share your concern with the lack of attention on this flagship product. There is at least one glaring issue that should be resolved and watching 'lesser' models being pushed out and supported while we patiently wait for basic functionality to be patched is worrying. (pitch fader resolution/communication is my only real gripe)

I'll continue checking the Roland website once a day in the meantime. =)

So Fresh 9:11 AM - 15 November, 2017

if the product carries the serato name they should have some responsibility in the communication and fighting our corner to make sure we get the best product possible and not dropped like a sack of shit every time a new product comes out.

Transparency, honesty innovation and reliability should = serato

If the 808 was a NI product i would not have bought it. IT WAS the serato integration and partnership that made me just drop £1200 squid with belief

but that blind ignorance on my by behalf bite me in this case, its good to hear and so many positive stories about the product.

I was the first person i know to invest in the SL1 when it came out, i believed in them and have seen fruits and had so much fun from that belief

But that is starting to waver with the new focus on new instead of exisiting.

I know Roland is a separate company but serato must be having some dialog with the them as they release a new update every-time a new controller comes ( which seems to be weekly) so they must know if these fixes and updates are in the pipe line or if the 808 has had its day. They should also be pushing to help serato customers and not just passing responsibility on to there partners in this case roland. If i remember the sale pitch for the product at launch was partnership with Roland serato.

Please serato do not let that partnership tarnish your name.

My personal reason for not switching software has been loyalty quality and reliabilty but lets be honest that line is starting to ware thin with the prick teasing with serato V2. (just get on with it) and the solid software manufacture integration of pioneer with record box

don't make me loose faith in you serato, you have been one of the brands that i have depended on.

DJ Marv the Maverick 9:27 AM - 15 November, 2017

My experience with the Roland DJ 808 has been positive. Other than the dead zone on the 0 of the pitch fader I have no qualms with the unit as it is and it's integration with Serato DJ.

There has been many changes in OS and Serato DJ in a short period of time... High Sierra, 1.9.10 etc. I will make an educated guess that Roland is waiting for the dust to settle before pushing out any firmware upgrades.

I've spoken to the customer support about the pitch fader dead zone and I was informed that it's by design. I was aware of this pitch fader quirk before buying the device.

I live in a country where it's near impossible to pop into a brick and mortar store to try out a gear before buying it. 95% of gear I've bought or owned were based on user reviews.

Just out of curiosity what will you want the firmware update to address, because I don't believe in updating firmware just for the hell of it. An great example of firmware update gone bad is the MCX8000. People on earlier firmware reporting none of the screen freeze issue that the ones on the newer firmware experienced.

So Fresh 9:42 AM - 15 November, 2017

thanks marv

I was hopping for the pitch fader to be fixed and some of the new features found in the new products which should have been intergraded at launch.

1.fix the pitch fader resolution problems
2. Add the extra sounds found on the 505
3. Add the nudge function to the TR
4. Make me a better Dj button added
5. brighting the pads in day use

i don't believe in updating firmware for the hell of it either but it has been a year on a fresh product range which must have led to field feedback to improve some of these things especially on the flagship model.

So Fresh 9:57 AM - 15 November, 2017

it is also really good to here that you have had like most of the stories i read a positive experience with the 808

I might have got a buggy one as it was from the first batch.

DJ Marv the Maverick 2:56 PM - 15 November, 2017

lol @ 4

i will buy any unit that has that button.

Coming from the Denon MCX8000 to the Roland... it was like I had a huge burden shifted off my back.

Best to email Roland support directly with what you want in the firmware update so they can know what users are expecting.

I posted a few backs the official response I got when I asked why the pitch fader had a deadzone. I can't remember what it was the support guy said but even though it sorta disturbed my work flow it kinda made sense.

Which makes me wonder if it will be addressed by firmware update as to them it's not a problem.

Even Mojaxx commented on it during his review but I have a feeling he was under the impression that it was a bug, as he said "a firmware update will address it"

So Fresh 2:55 PM - 17 November, 2017

got a reply from Roland below:

"I will pass this along to the guys that look after the DJ/Serato products."

Chino 12:17 AM - 20 November, 2017

Feature request for the DJ-808…

Currently 16 drum/sample patterns can be saved on the DJ-808's TR-S drum machine. Instead, I would like to have 4 banks of 16. This could possibly be accomplished by using SHIFT + PATTERN on the TR-S.

Maybe each bank can also change color to make it easier to determine which bank a user is in. For example BANK 1 can light up red, BANK 2 can light up blue etc.

Coherence 5:35 PM - 20 November, 2017

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Feature request for the DJ-808…

Currently 16 drum/sample patterns can be saved on the DJ-808's TR-S drum machine. Instead, I would like to have 4 banks of 16. This could possibly be accomplished by using SHIFT + PATTERN on the TR-S.

Maybe each bank can also change color to make it easier to determine which bank a user is in. For example BANK 1 can light up red, BANK 2 can light up blue etc.

+1 for sure. Currently using an MPC Live to 'work around' the limitation of the TR-S, but that would definitely make things more convenient.

Chino 2:31 AM - 21 November, 2017

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Currently using an MPC Live to 'work around' the limitation of the TR-S

So… how do you like the MPC live? I've been trying to decide whether or not to buy one. I already have a Roland MV8800. I was hoping that Roland would come out with a portable version of the MV8800 but nothing yet. Now that the MPC live software is officially out of beta- is the Live worth buying? Is the hardware/software stable yet?

Listed below is the link to the final release of the MPC Live software 2.0.6:

www.akaipro.com

Lou Dog 6:50 AM - 21 November, 2017

Anyone know if the 505 or 202 still have the pitch resolution issue? Thanks

Coherence 7:15 AM - 21 November, 2017

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Currently using an MPC Live to 'work around' the limitation of the TR-S

So… how do you like the MPC live? I've been trying to decide whether or not to buy one. I already have a Roland MV8800. I was hoping that Roland would come out with a portable version of the MV8800 but nothing yet. Now that the MPC live software is officially out of beta- is the Live worth buying? Is the hardware/software stable yet?

Listed below is the link to the final release of the MPC Live software 2.0.6:

www.akaipro.com

Incredible device - super dense. I think it really comes down to what you what to use it for, but even that is a bit of a misnomer given that it can basically fit most needs. That basically brings it down to the price you are willing to pay to get what it offers in a (truly) portable package.

Highlights for me:
-Battery powered and FULLY standalone, but can plug into the workstation and use my full regalia of plugins and usual workflow
-The sampler. omg, yes. So yes. It is flexible almost to a fault, but if you can get your common live and offline workflows down into muscle memory, it is in another league.
-The storage capability - I've popped a 256GB SSD into mine, so suffice to say, there are almost literally no limits as to what I can work with on the go or what I can bring to a gig.
-As an MPC, it works great, though the 4x Q-links do feel a bit limiting vs. the 16 on a normal MPC. Not unlike effects in Serato though - multiple banks can take care of that.
-Full I/O control over everything - routing midi in from the DJ-808, then having the clocking out to a synth, routing audio, routing multiple inputs, inserts, sends, returns all in one spot without a separate mixer is really cool and convenient.
-Sounds incredible
-CLIP LAUNCH MODE!! heh - basically Ableton live performance style, but in a box with a battery with best-in-class velocity sensitive pads. Awesome. =)

Currently on 2.0.5, so I'll have to tack that new release on there. Very few bugs at this point and only one show stopper (remove a sample or instrument from a keygroup, then try to remove the keygroup program - instacrash) that would never actually come up in live performance. Workflow can be a little obtuse at times, but as I mentioned before, flexible almost to a fault. Bouncing a sequence or pattern out to a clip, copying, layering, etc all super easy to do. You can 100% produce purely on this device or use it as a live performance companion. (or both)

Specifically for my 'workaround' use, it is 100% overkill. An Elektron Digitakt would have been a simpler, more straight forward, and cheaper option with some tricks up its sleeve that the Live simply doesn't, but the sheer swiss-army-knife of tools the Live brought to the table sold me. Build quality is excellent. It definitely looks like it can take a beating and come out ok on the other side.

If you are considering it, yes, it is stable aside from the issue I mentioned above (or at least that's all I've run into so far - WAY better than earlier releases) and if you are leaning more toward doing everything on it and not just using it as a companion in your DJ sets, I'd seriously consider the MPC-X. It is just better in every aspect the Live is lacking. They are essentially the same under the hood, but the X has more hardware controls, more input channels, outputs, addition of CV outputs and really isn't THAT big of a device in comparison.

Chino 4:29 PM - 21 November, 2017

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Anyone know if the 505 or 202 still have the pitch resolution issue? Thanks

I tried the DJ-505 at the DJ Expo in AC. I was able to get fine increments (.1, .2,.3 etc.) with no problem.

Lou Dog 4:47 PM - 21 November, 2017

Chino you the man. Thanks

NUdisc0 5:03 PM - 21 November, 2017

0.1, 0.2, 0.3 is not fine at all lol.

Coherence 5:56 PM - 21 November, 2017

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0.1, 0.2, 0.3 is not fine at all lol.

...finer than the 808..

So Fresh 9:45 AM - 23 November, 2017

"Please let me put your mind at rest, it’s certainly not the end of the line for support on the DJ-808.

Also, to be absolutely honest we wouldn’t be notified of a pending firmware release for DJ-808 until it’s actually released. "

just go this

the guy that responded in the end i had been dealing with on a repair and he seem like a really good guy so i do not blame him at all but he did said that is company policy from japan. I think this has become a problem with most manufactures

deejayayup 11:27 AM - 23 November, 2017

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Anyone know if the 505 or 202 still have the pitch resolution issue? Thanks

I tried the DJ-505 at the DJ Expo in AC. I was able to get fine increments (.1, .2,.3 etc.) with no problem.

Glad to here this, bro!

UK stock has been delayed until late December/early January now. Is it going to be worth the wait?

DJ Bully 2:57 PM - 23 November, 2017

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Anyone know if the 505 or 202 still have the pitch resolution issue? Thanks

I tried the DJ-505 at the DJ Expo in AC. I was able to get fine increments (.1, .2,.3 etc.) with no problem.

Glad to here this, bro!

UK stock has been delayed until late December/early January now. Is it going to be worth the wait?

Surely unless you are using sync then it needs to 0.01 increments? I guess you can set Serato BPM to 0.1 increments instead of 0.01?

I have the 808 and it is a fine peice of kit but the lack of resolution on the pitch controls is sorely missed!

Chino 4:33 PM - 23 November, 2017

Another example of why I love the platters on the DJ-808…

Watch www.youtube.com

Lou Dog 11:57 PM - 23 November, 2017

.1,.2,.3 increments is more than enough to mix. If you need .01 than you need to step it up. SSL had NO decimal point and neither does vinyl haha

Coherence 2:33 AM - 24 November, 2017

I love playing on turnrtables as much as the next guy (truly, I love the smooth and precise action they provide), but we're talking about a computer interface. It should be absolutely, positively perfect and accurate. Anything less simply detracts from the purpose of the unit.

Also, I'm not too keen on having to nudge platters or play chase-the-pitch-fader while I'm trying to run sequences on the TR-S and my offboard components. It should just work with all the accuracy that can be provided by Serato.

Invoking "but you should be skilled enough to work around the defective calibration of $1500 hardware" is not really a viable solution, imo. ;)

..and yes, that is exactly what all of us 808 owners have been doing since launch. Time to fix it, Roland. (please?) The platters, midi out, and mixer are just too good to give up, but I'd really prefer if my hardware worked as it should.

d:raf 4:47 AM - 24 November, 2017

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.1,.2,.3 increments is more than enough to mix. If you need .01 than you need to step it up. SSL had NO decimal point and neither does vinyl haha

SSL and vinyl definitely have (hundreths) decimal points (since the pitch is analog); they just don't show up on the screen.

Not having them on a digital controller is quite a different situation.

Lou Dog 5:49 AM - 24 November, 2017

Ok I hear you. Fair enough. Is it possible that the 808 has those increments that just don't show up on the screen?

Also I saw someone post that this is by design from Roland. What did Roland claim was the purpose of this design? Thanks

Coherence 12:08 PM - 24 November, 2017

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Ok I hear you. Fair enough. Is it possible that the 808 has those increments that just don't show up on the screen?

Also I saw someone post that this is by design from Roland. What did Roland claim was the purpose of this design? Thanks

I think what I've heard Roland refer to is the deadzone around the detent at "quartz lock" / +/-0%. Being a long time SL-1210mk2 user, this doesn't bother me one bit. I'm happy to slip the opposing track up or down to accommodate the pronounced move from +/-0%. The issue I'm referring to is the +/- 0.08-0.12 per increment resolution. That's just sloppy. Perhaps if it was even consistent, I'd be ok, but it isn't. Further, if you quickly make exaggerated movements with the pitch fader, you can actually change target you can achieve. (example: dial in to +1.28%, but you want +1.25% - no problem, just ramp it up to +8% then back down repeatedly until you get it)

I've done a decent amount of drift testing to see if it was simply a mismatch between what the 808 is sending and Serato is displaying and no, the pitch displayed in Serato is accurate and if off by a few hundredths, expect to make adjustments in fairly short order. (especially irritating during looping exercises)

In the meantime for detailed looping/layering, I'll generally use the 'slam the pitch fader around' method for about 3-4 strokes and if I can't land within +/-0.03 after 3-4 attempts, I'll just throw my hands up and let sync do what it does. For general mixing, I'll just ride the platter edge to keep sliding back into grid. Riding the fader is kind of a non-starter since it will be jumping all over the place and generally make for a sloppier mix.

Note, when playing on turntables or CDJs, I'm not really a nudge person. The platter is for cueing and scratching; I don't touch it during playback because the pitch fader will always provide a more stable and seamless adjustment when needed. I cannot do this on the 808. It makes me a sad person.

=P

jackdhouse 1:08 PM - 24 November, 2017

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Also, I'm not too keen on having to nudge platters or play chase-the-pitch-fader while I'm trying to run sequences on the TR-S and my offboard components.

Wouldn't using the SYNC button solve this and all the other resolution issues?

938MyDJ 3:00 PM - 24 November, 2017

But you won’t be called a hero if you use SYNC.

LOL!

I want that pitch resolution to be fixed too. But it’s not really a big deal for me... YES, I use sync a lot on my sets when using my 808 because of all the devices connected to it.

jackdhouse 3:41 PM - 24 November, 2017

I doubt a crowd cares whether Sync is used, as long as the proper tracks are played to keep their asses movin.

Also, if one were to beatmatch..pitch resolution wouldn't matter either. Your ears will let you know if it is right.

Just a thought...does it make me a poor driver if I use cruise control?

iernei 10:56 PM - 24 November, 2017

The style of mixing is irrelevant here. The fact is that a high end confroller should have high pitch resolution (0.01 bpm) from the start.

And if they didn't make it right then they should've correct it with the firmware update. Months ago. And there's no point to argue about sync. I understand that some users don't need pitch faders at all. But don't go trying to convince others that their mixing style is wrong/old/nonefficient.

It strikes me everytime when I see this. Instead of full blown attack on manufacturer's support users start to question other users' workflow and justify manufacturer. Think for a minute. Basic feature, flawlessy implented in some budget controllers, doesn't work as expected on a 1500€/$ flagship. Non acceptable.

Don't get me wrong, I really like the controller. But we're waiting for so long.

Too long.

djcrap 11:44 PM - 24 November, 2017

Its .01bpm when pitch range is 8% riding the edge of the platter on drifting tracks is a easy task. But becomes daunting and annoying when pitch range is increased to 16% it doubles to .02 bpm which makes it almost impossible to ride the edge of the platter to sync the tracks

iernei 11:58 PM - 24 November, 2017

I only get increments that Coherence mentioned in his post. +/- 0.08-0.12 per increment resolution

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The issue I'm referring to is the +/- 0.08-0.12 per increment resolution. That's just sloppy. Perhaps if it was even consistent, I'd be ok, but it isn't. Further, if you quickly make exaggerated movements with the pitch fader, you can actually change target you can achieve. (example: dial in to +1.28%, but you want +1.25% - no problem, just ramp it up to +8% then back down repeatedly until you get it)

I've done a decent amount of drift testing to see if it was simply a mismatch between what the 808 is sending and Serato is displaying and no, the pitch displayed in Serato is accurate and if off by a few hundredths, expect to make adjustments in fairly short order

Are you saying that your controller has better resolution?

djcrap 12:20 AM - 25 November, 2017

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I only get increments that Coherence mentioned in his post. +/- 0.08-0.12 per increment resolution

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The issue I'm referring to is the +/- 0.08-0.12 per increment resolution. That's just sloppy. Perhaps if it was even consistent, I'd be ok, but it isn't. Further, if you quickly make exaggerated movements with the pitch fader, you can actually change target you can achieve. (example: dial in to +1.28%, but you want +1.25% - no problem, just ramp it up to +8% then back down repeatedly until you get it)

I've done a decent amount of drift testing to see if it was simply a mismatch between what the 808 is sending and Serato is displaying and no, the pitch displayed in Serato is accurate and if off by a few hundredths, expect to make adjustments in fairly short order

Are you saying that your controller has better resolution?

I know exactly what you mean by .08 increments or .04 increments! But I discovered that you can cut down that .04 increment into half by moving the pitch really slow up or down until you dail it into that sweet spot.

Coherence 2:07 AM - 25 November, 2017

All mostly great comments and yes, if you fiddle with it enough, it'll eventually 'fall' into the target bpm.

As to 'why not just use sync?' - a few reasons:

1) Sync in serato (and most other softwares, if not all) will intrinsically link the tracks' pitch/tempo. So if a break comes in or a raw pad or synth is present and I want to pitch shift it to modify the tone against a second track with a beat, I end up destroying the groove. I have to instead disable sync, then wobble, then resync to bring the beat back in. Doable, but overwrought compared to simply having accurate pitch control.

2) If using sync, my grids have to be PERFECT. Serato is especially awful at this and requires me to hand grid each and every track I own. Ain't nobody got time for that...

3) Running tracks out of phase to create phase/flange/emphasis would require manually riding the platter vs. just bump and drift, bump and drift. Again, you CAN use the platter, but then you lose time to do other things with that hand while you are platter riding.

I'm not just talking about mixing track A into track B here. If that is all you use your 4-channel premium controller for, great. Most of the workarounds and rebuttals make sense, but if you are using this tool for what it was designed for, it is defective and needs to be updated.

As for the sync / no-sync argument - use the tools available to you. A very, VERY small subset of your audience MIGHT care if you are playing underground shows or something, but at the end of the day, it is your sound and technology exists. Use it to meet your goals. I don't need accurate pitch control to be a beatmatching hero, I need them to be functional pitch controls for what pitch controls are used for. (controlling pitch ;) )

The actual BPM readout in Serato is more of a symptom, not the problem. The problem is the controller doesn't actually seem to produce fine/accurate enough resolution consistently. It is easy to get hung up on 'why are you looking at the readout, just use your ear', but understand that the readout is only the visual indicator of the problem. It straight up doesn't work like it is supposed it.

BobbyDuracel 4:11 AM - 25 November, 2017

Timing, sync and beatgrid issues - I chose to move to a different product. It's sad really, because this thing "can" do cool musical work... It's just not "perfect" and since my library is massive, time is short, and for a ton of other reasons - it did not quite live up to my needs and expectations.

Coherence 10:36 AM - 25 November, 2017

I may sound harsh, but in general, I absolutely love the hardware. It is a top notch piece of kit. That is why I've let this issue languish and just worked around it since the end of April when I got the unit.

I'll let it marinate a bit longer before doing anything drastic. Probably not much past January though. If the tax return shows up and it still isn't fixed, I'll be pitching it in favor of a nice 4 channel mixer. (A&H PX5 and Denon X1800 both look rather nice) The controller is convenient, but not entirely necessary. It would be a shame given how wonderfully the rest works.

@BobbyDuracel - how are you liking your Prime setup? Any complaints?

Chino 3:06 PM - 25 November, 2017

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It strikes me everytime when I see this. Instead of full blown attack on manufacturer's support users start to question other users' workflow and justify manufacturer. Think for a minute. Basic feature, flawlessy implented in some budget controllers, doesn't work as expected on a 1500€/$ flagship. Non acceptable.

Really good point! We as consumers need to hold manufacturers accountable for their products!!

Unfortunately, the trend now is to release unfinished products & continue development IF the product sells. If not, then the product's life cycle is cut short & the manufacturer quickly moves on to the next product.

That is a horrible 'business practise'. Combat it by wisely choosing which companies get your hard earned $$$.

kmeex 7:56 PM - 29 November, 2017

@Coherence and @BobbyDuracel
How you would like to use DJ808 If not using the Sync? That's defecting the whole purpose of the device if you like to use the TR-S. The resolution of TR-S is 0.1bpm. If you play song that is let's say 93.87bpm and put the TR-S over it with tempo of 93.8bpm it will drift at some point and sound horrible without sync. It will work with quantized music without manual beatgridding because the tempo is all the way same, but with unquantized music you must beatgrid your songs and use Sync. IMHO Serato beatgridding is best that you can think of. It doesn't take more than 5minutes per drifting BPM Song to play along with TR-S and the beatgrid is 100% accurate. I bought my DJ808 and beatgridded my 70's-80's folders so I can play them too with 808. Lot's of use, because now autoloop, FX, slicer and many others works because accurate beatgrid.

It was mentioned even the Roland press demo videos that you must have accurate beatgrids to 808 work properly and that is no surprise, how other way you tell Serato that BPM is changing in current implementation? If the time is key feature here, it doesn't take too much Time to get your grids accurate. And you will worth it even more than just capable using Sync and TR-S.

I just don't get it that people will buy very expensive devices and are surprised that it might not work the way that was expected and have no intention to get used to the workflow The manufacturer has intended.

Peace

Coherence 10:43 PM - 29 November, 2017

Not sure I follow entirely, but I think I hear what you are getting at.

First question: I love using the 808, regardless of sync. ;) Fantastic device. As stated above, what I don't like this the janky pitch resolution on the deck faders. Your example is a wonderful one, in fact - how many attempts jerking the fader up and down must I endure in order to land on an even 93.80 BPM? The answer is usually around 4-5, but often many more. That's the annoyance and the defective part of this product that I'm hoping gets corrected. If and when that occurs, this will be a nearly perfect device.

If I was only ever using the TR-S, I probably would care less about this issue (though I'd still definitely care), but in fact the TR-S is also driving an MPC Live, a Korg Monologue, and some Teenage Engineering pocket operators. When those are in operation, my attention is turned there. What a pleasure it would be to be able to manipulate those without having to also managing nudging the track playing back from deck A or B!

To be clear, I do grid all of my tracks by hand because Serato's initial detection is a bit meh. As a former Traktor user, this has taken some getting used to and has added a decent chunk of time to my workflow since I'm generally importing about 40 tracks a week. Not a huge deal, but it really seems like this is something that has already been solved so it seems antiquated. Please also note that I'm not referring to some 70's funk music - I largely spin and produce techno. 4/4. Quantized like a mofo. ;) Traktor required perfect beatgrids as well (in order to synchonize with midi gear, etc), but the difference is I didn't have to actually do anything outside of analyzing my tracks and enjoying them.

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I just don't get it that people will buy very expensive devices and are surprised that it might not work the way that was expected and have no intention to get used to the workflow The manufacturer has intended.

You are conflating two different topics there.

a) You don't get why people will buy very expensive devices and are surprised when they might not work the way that was expected -- Really? I'm not. If I buy a device on the stated features, I expect them to work as advertised. I haven't seen any mention of a +/- 0.08-0.12% tolerance on pitch resolution. If you find such a metric, I'll stand corrected.

b) Have no intention to get used to the workflow the manufacturer has intended -- I specifically bought this controller for the workflow, in fact. Watched many videos, demos, went and tried the unit out, etc. Granted, Serato's quirks were a bit unexpected, but acceptable as it is a different ecosystem and software, but I was in no way surprised by or averse to the 808's workflow. I find the general workflow on the 808 to be extraordinarily wonderful to interface with.

kmeex 11:08 AM - 30 November, 2017

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how many attempts jerking the fader up and down must I endure in order to land on an even 93.80 BPM? The answer is usually around 4-5, but often many more. That's the annoyance and the defective part of this product that I'm hoping gets corrected. If and when that occurs, this will be a nearly perfect device.

I agree with you. The pitch resolution is not so great especially using two decimal. Hope the problem is fixed in the future.

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To be clear, I do grid all of my tracks by hand because Serato's initial detection is a bit meh. As a former Traktor user, this has taken some getting used to and has added a decent chunk of time to my workflow since I'm generally importing about 40 tracks a week. Not a huge deal, but it really seems like this is something that has already been solved so it seems antiquated. Please also note that I'm not referring to some 70's funk music - I largely spin and produce techno. 4/4. Quantized like a mofo. ;) Traktor required perfect beatgrids as well (in order to synchonize with midi gear, etc), but the difference is I didn't have to actually do anything outside of analyzing my tracks and enjoying them.

That's where the sync comes in. Even if you have quantized 128bpm and intro is gridded perfectly, when it comes let's say to breakdown section, it may be that producer in the studio have made slight adjustments to bpm or using some sample that is not exactly same tempo and when the beat comes back in the grid is slightly off. I agree that Serato's beat detection is not perfect.

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You are conflating two different topics there.

a) You don't get why people will buy very expensive devices and are surprised when they might not work the way that was expected -- Really? I'm not. If I buy a device on the stated features, I expect them to work as advertised. I haven't seen any mention of a +/- 0.08-0.12% tolerance on pitch resolution. If you find such a metric, I'll stand corrected.

b) Have no intention to get used to the workflow the manufacturer has intended -- I specifically bought this controller for the workflow, in fact. Watched many videos, demos, went and tried the unit out, etc. Granted, Serato's quirks were a bit unexpected, but acceptable as it is a different ecosystem and software, but I was in no way surprised by or averse to the 808's workflow. I find the general workflow on the 808 to be extraordinarily wonderful to interface with.

Sorry english is not my main language ;) What I meant was I don't get it that people buy DJ-808 for example and are surprised that beatgrids must be perfect and they may need fine-tuning to get it right or any other things that the specific device nedds. Then they complain how time consuming beatgridding is for example or they don't want to use sync etc.

I don't mean that people must accept if the device is not working correctly (pitch resolution)
And yes I find the workflow on 808 to be wonderful too ;)

Coherence 4:47 PM - 30 November, 2017

Thanks for clarifying and it sounds like we are largely in agreement. The reason I'm so vocal on this controller getting fixed is because there is very little out there like it with the level of quality, features, and external MIDI integration. I've been waiting for something of this caliber for quite some time and if they get fix this final item, it will be a major asset. I am exactly the target audience for this device and I'm hopeful a company with Roland's background and expertise can finish it up and enable users like me to really shine with it.

Mr. Goodkat 10:54 PM - 30 November, 2017

i know this is an 808 thread but anybody on the 505?

i looked at their website and specs seem to be the same internally just making sure its the same if i pull the trigger

Chino 11:02 PM - 30 November, 2017

I tried it at the DJ Expo. Nice portable size. Platters felt real good too. I did miss the longer pitch sliders & center jog wheel indicator light, though.

djcrap 6:32 AM - 1 December, 2017

I don't know if it's me but It feels like the work flow of the 505 sequencer integration and programming with the sampler and serato is more user friendly and tight! Compared to the flagship dj 808 which is kind of limited in terms of drum sounds

Any body notice that so far?

DJ Bully 11:58 AM - 1 December, 2017

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I don't know if it's me but It feels like the work flow of the 505 sequencer integration and programming with the sampler and serato is more user friendly and tight! Compared to the flagship dj 808 which is kind of limited in terms of drum sounds

Any body notice that so far?

It's limited by default drum sounds yes, but then you have the sampler, once you get that loaded up with ride/crash and whatever else you are well away. It's a shame there aren't the volume sliders for the 8 sample slots, the same as the BD,SD,CH & OH that would be very useful!

938MyDJ 3:12 PM - 1 December, 2017

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It's limited by default drum sounds yes, but then you have the sampler, once you get that loaded up with ride/crash and whatever else you are well away. It's a shame there aren't the volume sliders for the 8 sample slots, the same as the BD,SD,CH & OH that would be very useful!

Just to test the Sampler with the TR-S, I used one of my F1s (4knobs/4faders) to control the volumes of the 8 slots. It worked really well (+ extra 16pads). But I found it’s a bit of a hassle when I want to switch to my one-shot samples on a regular use. That’s when I decided to get the TR-8 and solved my needs. This is just for all live playing though.

Otherwise, the TR-S 4-instruments are good enough for me if I just need to layer a beat on top of an audio track in Serato.

Mr. Goodkat 5:42 PM - 1 December, 2017

i picked up a 505, ill probably take it back. Thought the build construction was ok and the knobs seemed to go from solid(the eq) for about half and wobbly for the other half(efx and top knobs like track select).

Its definitely a cool concept and the drum machine is fun and sounds good but i dont think serato does sync that well tbh.

Surely some people are gonna do some good things with this controller, but it doesn't seem solid enought for long term play out use and there are a lot of shift + function features which i dont like on two fronts. One is that using that shift button quite a bit means they could break/go out and there is higher possibility of mis triggering the wrong effect.

The platters are a bit stiff, which i guess they could break in but there is no tension control for them or sensitivity control on the hardware (i dont think there is any in the software).
Personally think the platters on a VCI 380 are better, with more control over sensitivity. I also like the two modes on the VCI from scratch mode to a nudge +- mode.

The pitch control fader is very stiff, again it could break in, but at the same time it had a lot of play left to right that felt not very stable.

After deciding to get rid of my 62 because i was worried about the some of the pots long term stability since they were a bit weak in places, these i felt the same about but it was a brand new controller.

Again i dont hate it, but i dont think keeping it is the right move for me. I dont want a bigger controller so ill just go back to the dj mixer + turntables/cdj setup.

I'm not sure i would recommend this to a noob dj because it does a lot more than a noob would ever need or could take advantage of, but for a pro i'm just not sure it will stand up to really pro level usage(lots of knob twisting and using the drum machine with a lot of dual functions involving several shift buttons(ones for diff sections. i think there are 3) over a long period of time.

Chino 7:23 PM - 1 December, 2017

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Personally think the platters on a VCI 380 are better, with more control over sensitivity. I also like the two modes on the VCI from scratch mode to a nudge +- mode.

I previously owned a Vestax VCI 400 that I absolutely loved! The platter sensitivity could also be manually adjusted. I was worried about whether support would continue so I sold it.

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After deciding to get rid of my 62 because i was worried about the some of the pots long term stability since they were a bit weak in places, these i felt the same about but it was a brand new controller.

I still have my 62. Thankfully, I haven't run into any issues with the pots.

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I dont want a bigger controller so ill just go back to the dj mixer + turntables/cdj setup.

Maybe try the Rane 72 & Twelve when they are released?

Mr. Goodkat 7:47 PM - 1 December, 2017

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Maybe try the Rane 72 & Twelve when they are released?

too expensive and im not sold on the 72 until at least a year after it drops.

might try a mixars duo for a while, but im afraid of it because the resell market would be really tough.

Wish Roland would have just put a little more into the 505 at maybe $999 opposed to $699

deejayayup 9:45 AM - 4 December, 2017

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i picked up a 505, ill probably take it back. Thought the build construction was ok and the knobs seemed to go from solid(the eq) for about half and wobbly for the other half(efx and top knobs like track select).

Its definitely a cool concept and the drum machine is fun and sounds good but i dont think serato does sync that well tbh.

Surely some people are gonna do some good things with this controller, but it doesn't seem solid enought for long term play out use and there are a lot of shift + function features which i dont like on two fronts. One is that using that shift button quite a bit means they could break/go out and there is higher possibility of mis triggering the wrong effect.

The platters are a bit stiff, which i guess they could break in but there is no tension control for them or sensitivity control on the hardware (i dont think there is any in the software).
Personally think the platters on a VCI 380 are better, with more control over sensitivity. I also like the two modes on the VCI from scratch mode to a nudge +- mode.

The pitch control fader is very stiff, again it could break in, but at the same time it had a lot of play left to right that felt not very stable.

After deciding to get rid of my 62 because i was worried about the some of the pots long term stability since they were a bit weak in places, these i felt the same about but it was a brand new controller.

Again i dont hate it, but i dont think keeping it is the right move for me. I dont want a bigger controller so ill just go back to the dj mixer + turntables/cdj setup.

I'm not sure i would recommend this to a noob dj because it does a lot more than a noob would ever need or could take advantage of, but for a pro i'm just not sure it will stand up to really pro level usage(lots of knob twisting and using the drum machine with a lot of dual functions involving several shift buttons(ones for diff sections. i think there are 3) over a long period of time.

I'm a bit worried now, but I'll give Roland the benefit of the doubt and wait until it's delivered (UK delivery now pushed back until January!!). If It feels as cheap as you say, I may have to send it back and get the SR2.

Like you say, it's a shame nobody has made a high-end 2 channel controller. I don't need 4 channels and a lot of the booths I play in don't have the room for something like the DJ-808.

577er 4:00 PM - 4 December, 2017

It seems like the 202 and Roland Aria TR-08 combo would be better than the 505 in terms of controlling the sequencer but am I missing something? Is the 202 just to basic for that to be realistically implemented? Hope not because that's a combo I'm interested in. I wouldn't care as much if the 202 was flimsy since it can be replaced for $300.

Coherence 6:34 PM - 4 December, 2017

A TR-08 (or in my opinion, TR-8) would indeed be better / more full featured compared to the 505, although you do end up with layered looping controls (on the pads) and missing the parameter knobs on the FX. The discrete unit will always offer more control and functionality, but the implementation (at least on the 808) is pretty damn good and as someone who almost exclusively uses my own samples, it is an entirely effective sequencer with just enough control to be extremely functional during a set.

938MyDJ 8:07 PM - 4 December, 2017

The PERFECT CONTROLLER is NOT going to be MADE until the end of time.
We will only get the CLOSEST to what we WANT and what we NEED... with the PRICE that we are willing to pay for.

So we literally are biting the bullet every time we buy a new DJ Gear.
What matters is how we bite that bullet...

Mr. Goodkat 1:44 AM - 5 December, 2017

Quote:

It seems like the 202 and Roland Aria TR-08 combo would be better than the 505 in terms of controlling the sequencer but am I missing something? Is the 202 just to basic for that to be realistically implemented? Hope not because that's a combo I'm interested in. I wouldn't care as much if the 202 was flimsy since it can be replaced for $300.

yeah, that honestly makes sense, im not sure exactly which way i would go, but it does sound like the 202 + tr-8 would prob make the most sense but it would be cool to have just a the tr-08 and/or -09.

577er 5:21 AM - 5 December, 2017

I'm basically trying to talk myself out of the 808 because I'm cheap but the possibilities of the 202+tr08 have got me ready to move the DDJSR to backup duity.

Having been burnt by three bad vci380s and a 300 that didn't last years ago I'm paranoid about spending $1200+ on an all in one controller. That's a lot of eggs in one basket. Doesn't help that I just replaced the crossfader in my "2015" DDJSR only to see the factory installed fader was made in 2011!

I'd gladly spend $1,200 on a nice analog rotary mixer but not so sure about a controller that might last a few years if I'm lucky.

djcrap 5:24 AM - 5 December, 2017

Quote:

I'm basically trying to talk myself out of the 808 because I'm cheap but the possibilities of the 202+tr08 have got me ready to move the DDJSR to backup duity.

Having been burnt by three bad vci380s and a 300 that didn't last years ago I'm paranoid about spending $1200+ on an all in one controller. That's a lot of eggs in one basket. Doesn't help that I just replaced the crossfader in my "2015" DDJSR only to see the factory installed fader was made in 2011!

I'd gladly spend $1,200 on a nice analog rotary mixer but not so sure about a controller that might last a few years if I'm lucky.

Wait it out until naam or end of January to see what new controllers come out or get announced

577er 5:29 AM - 5 December, 2017

Quote:

I'm basically trying to talk myself out of the 808 because I'm cheap but the possibilities of the 202+tr08 have got me ready to move the DDJSR to backup duity.

Having been burnt by three bad vci380s and a 300 that didn't last years ago I'm paranoid about spending $1200+ on an all in one controller. That's a lot of eggs in one basket. Doesn't help that I just replaced the crossfader in my "2015" DDJSR only to see the factory installed fader was made in 2011!

I'd gladly spend $1,200 on a nice analog rotary mixer but not so sure about a controller that might last a few years if I'm lucky.

Wait it out until naam or end of January to see what new controllers come out or get announced

Ah yeah end of January I can wait for forsure.

Mr. Goodkat 5:43 AM - 5 December, 2017

i think they are a pretty cool concept, they almost needed to be a slightly higher price point.

Seems like all of these are under the concept of price point then feature set. If they were at the level of SZ/SX/SR price point, they may have been able to squeeze in bigger players at the top end, and just more features on the bottom.

The 505 and 202 are more like the SR/Sb instead of SX and SR. A controller soundcard coming out of RCA cables is never really very impressive but maybe with the TR-8 you get a sub mixer an go that route.

577er 4:19 PM - 6 December, 2017

Yeah a bus powered controller is probably not going to sound that great on its own but there is hope that it can sound decent once fed into a line mixer. Definitely going to see if I can test this concept out.

938MyDJ 4:52 PM - 6 December, 2017

FYI... The TR-8 has a Side Chain INPUT that feeds really good Audio. You can even use it as fx for your Master Out if you will use both units.

deejayayup 6:05 PM - 13 December, 2017

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i picked up a 505, ill probably take it back. Thought the build construction was ok and the knobs seemed to go from solid(the eq) for about half and wobbly for the other half(efx and top knobs like track select).

Its definitely a cool concept and the drum machine is fun and sounds good but i dont think serato does sync that well tbh.

Surely some people are gonna do some good things with this controller, but it doesn't seem solid enought for long term play out use and there are a lot of shift + function features which i dont like on two fronts. One is that using that shift button quite a bit means they could break/go out and there is higher possibility of mis triggering the wrong effect.

The platters are a bit stiff, which i guess they could break in but there is no tension control for them or sensitivity control on the hardware (i dont think there is any in the software).
Personally think the platters on a VCI 380 are better, with more control over sensitivity. I also like the two modes on the VCI from scratch mode to a nudge +- mode.

The pitch control fader is very stiff, again it could break in, but at the same time it had a lot of play left to right that felt not very stable.

After deciding to get rid of my 62 because i was worried about the some of the pots long term stability since they were a bit weak in places, these i felt the same about but it was a brand new controller.

Again i dont hate it, but i dont think keeping it is the right move for me. I dont want a bigger controller so ill just go back to the dj mixer + turntables/cdj setup.

I'm not sure i would recommend this to a noob dj because it does a lot more than a noob would ever need or could take advantage of, but for a pro i'm just not sure it will stand up to really pro level usage(lots of knob twisting and using the drum machine with a lot of dual functions involving several shift buttons(ones for diff sections. i think there are 3) over a long period of time.

Just received mine and I've got to admit, I'm not blown away by build quality. The faders feel very cheap but do the job when scratching. I think the fact that it is so large but so light really makes it feel like a toy. I also thought that the RGB pads are a bit on the small side compared to other controllers. My DDJ-SR feels much more sturdy and professional. It looks like so much fun but just doesn't feel nice.

I'm going to check out the sound quality tomorrow before deciding whether to send it back and get an SR2.

Mr. Goodkat 6:27 PM - 13 December, 2017

Quote:

i picked up a 505, ill probably take it back. Thought the build construction was ok and the knobs seemed to go from solid(the eq) for about half and wobbly for the other half(efx and top knobs like track select).

Its definitely a cool concept and the drum machine is fun and sounds good but i dont think serato does sync that well tbh.

Surely some people are gonna do some good things with this controller, but it doesn't seem solid enought for long term play out use and there are a lot of shift + function features which i dont like on two fronts. One is that using that shift button quite a bit means they could break/go out and there is higher possibility of mis triggering the wrong effect.

The platters are a bit stiff, which i guess they could break in but there is no tension control for them or sensitivity control on the hardware (i dont think there is any in the software).
Personally think the platters on a VCI 380 are better, with more control over sensitivity. I also like the two modes on the VCI from scratch mode to a nudge +- mode.

The pitch control fader is very stiff, again it could break in, but at the same time it had a lot of play left to right that felt not very stable.

After deciding to get rid of my 62 because i was worried about the some of the pots long term stability since they were a bit weak in places, these i felt the same about but it was a brand new controller.

Again i dont hate it, but i dont think keeping it is the right move for me. I dont want a bigger controller so ill just go back to the dj mixer + turntables/cdj setup.

I'm not sure i would recommend this to a noob dj because it does a lot more than a noob would ever need or could take advantage of, but for a pro i'm just not sure it will stand up to really pro level usage(lots of knob twisting and using the drum machine with a lot of dual functions involving several shift buttons(ones for diff sections. i think there are 3) over a long period of time.

Just received mine and I've got to admit, I'm not blown away by build quality. The faders feel very cheap but do the job when scratching. I think the fact that it is so large but so light really makes it feel like a toy. I also thought that the RGB pads are a bit on the small side compared to other controllers. My DDJ-SR feels much more sturdy and professional. It looks like so much fun but just doesn't feel nice.

I'm going to check out the sound quality tomorrow before deciding whether to send it back and get an SR2.

thought it was weird that the pitch faders were so stiff going up and down, but side to side there was a lot of movement. The weight is something i liked before i got it, because its +-7 lbs but it could be 5 more lbs and still be light but more solid.

deejayayup 6:45 PM - 13 December, 2017

Quote:

i picked up a 505, ill probably take it back. Thought the build construction was ok and the knobs seemed to go from solid(the eq) for about half and wobbly for the other half(efx and top knobs like track select).

Its definitely a cool concept and the drum machine is fun and sounds good but i dont think serato does sync that well tbh.

Surely some people are gonna do some good things with this controller, but it doesn't seem solid enought for long term play out use and there are a lot of shift + function features which i dont like on two fronts. One is that using that shift button quite a bit means they could break/go out and there is higher possibility of mis triggering the wrong effect.

The platters are a bit stiff, which i guess they could break in but there is no tension control for them or sensitivity control on the hardware (i dont think there is any in the software).
Personally think the platters on a VCI 380 are better, with more control over sensitivity. I also like the two modes on the VCI from scratch mode to a nudge +- mode.

The pitch control fader is very stiff, again it could break in, but at the same time it had a lot of play left to right that felt not very stable.

After deciding to get rid of my 62 because i was worried about the some of the pots long term stability since they were a bit weak in places, these i felt the same about but it was a brand new controller.

Again i dont hate it, but i dont think keeping it is the right move for me. I dont want a bigger controller so ill just go back to the dj mixer + turntables/cdj setup.

I'm not sure i would recommend this to a noob dj because it does a lot more than a noob would ever need or could take advantage of, but for a pro i'm just not sure it will stand up to really pro level usage(lots of knob twisting and using the drum machine with a lot of dual functions involving several shift buttons(ones for diff sections. i think there are 3) over a long period of time.

Just received mine and I've got to admit, I'm not blown away by build quality. The faders feel very cheap but do the job when scratching. I think the fact that it is so large but so light really makes it feel like a toy. I also thought that the RGB pads are a bit on the small side compared to other controllers. My DDJ-SR feels much more sturdy and professional. It looks like so much fun but just doesn't feel nice.

I'm going to check out the sound quality tomorrow before deciding whether to send it back and get an SR2.

thought it was weird that the pitch faders were so stiff going up and down, but side to side there was a lot of movement. The weight is something i liked before i got it, because its +-7 lbs but it could be 5 more lbs and still be light but more solid.

Have you stuck with the 505 or sent it back? I’m split right now but if the sound quality is better than my SR, I’m tempted to keep it.

deejayayup 9:13 PM - 13 December, 2017

OK, after spending an hour or so with the unit, my first impressions have subsided a little.
The build does feel too light but there are so many pros!

-The jog wheels are the nicest I've ever scratched on - the next best thing after vinyl and DVS.
- The filters sound awesome! Much nicer than any Pioneer filters, in my opinion.
- The crossfader doesn't feel great on first touch but is nice for cuts.
- The drum machine is super fun!

I still think an extra metal plate on the mixer section would have been better and the headphone volume control feels very cheap!

I'll probably keep this and keep my SR as backup.

Chino 9:30 PM - 13 December, 2017

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-The jog wheels are the nicest I've ever scratched on - the next best thing after vinyl and DVS.
- The filters sound awesome! Much nicer than any Pioneer filters, in my opinion.
- The crossfader doesn't feel great on first touch but is nice for cuts.
- The drum machine is super fun!

Roland products are deep & have a way of growing on you. Once you have learned & mastered all the features, you will be amazed just how fun & creative your sets can be.

To improve the stock cross fader, try adjusting the cut in which gives you a more sharp cut (pg. 21 of the Roland DJ-505 owner's manual). I removed my mini innofader PNP & instead I'm now also using the stock Roland cross fader.

DJ Marv the Maverick 9:42 PM - 13 December, 2017

I have zero complaints about the 808. I'm strongly considering the 505 I wish it had the play head light in or around the jog wheel.

jackdhouse 10:07 PM - 13 December, 2017

The DJ-808 is a beast. For those that have an 808...the download page for the 202/505 on the Roland site has a 4 drum kit sample pack that can be used as drum samples for the 808. The kits are 80s, EDM, Trap and Drum & Bass.

onthe1 12:48 PM - 14 December, 2017

The TR-8 has functionality with its firmware update 1.5 to trigger external gear (their samplers, etc.) via MIDI note information. Has anyone by chance been able to do this with the TR on the 808? I'm wondering if I can do this from my DJ-202. I'm having trouble finding much information on the MIDI implementation in this controller. The manual is not very thorough.

If this is not possible at the moment, hopefully Roland will include that in future firmware updates for these controllers, although I suppose the idea with these is to stick with the serato DJ sampler.

DJNitro12 4:43 PM - 15 December, 2017

Question, after reading the spec sheet I have two questions that I'm hoping someone can answer.
1. Has anyone had problems running it via USB 3.0 ports? It says it will only run via 2.0 but my laptop only has 3.0
2. How's the latency with Windows? I currently have a MCX8000 but looking to upgrade to the 808. I have two laptops and only 1 will run the MCX8000 without any issues. The other laptop will only run my MC4000 and 6000MK II with zero problems. I just feel the 8000 is a resource hog, I'm guessing b/c of the screens but I'm not for sure on that.

Anyways, thanks in advance

Coherence 4:53 PM - 15 December, 2017

1. Works great via USB 3.0. I'm actually using mine via USB 3.0 via a hub, so no issues there. Also tested via Thunderbolt to USB adapter and still no issues.

2. Works great, no issues with latency on Windows 10 using an i7-6560U. You are correct on the 8000 - those screens run their own render process that is quite taxing on an integrated GPU. (probably a breeze for an Nvidia or AMD dedicated card/chip though)

The machine I use it with most often =

Dell XPS 13 9350
Intel i7-6560U
16GB RAM

DJNitro12 4:56 PM - 15 December, 2017

Quote:

1. Works great via USB 3.0. I'm actually using mine via USB 3.0 via a hub, so no issues there. Also tested via Thunderbolt to USB adapter and still no issues.

2. Works great, no issues with latency on Windows 10 using an i7-6560U. You are correct on the 8000 - those screens run their own render process that is quite taxing on an integrated GPU. (probably a breeze for an Nvidia or AMD dedicated card/chip though)

The machine I use it with most often =

Dell XPS 13 9350
Intel i7-6560U
16GB RAM

Both my laptops have dedicated graphics cards for Serato Video but I don't think the video card would have anything to do with the screens, again though, I could be wrong. Thanks for the quick reply Coherence

Coherence 5:05 PM - 15 December, 2017

np - and indeed it does, but be sure to use the Nvidia (assuming you have an Nvidia dedicated card) control panel to create a profile for Serato, otherwise the laptop may default to trying to use the Intel integrated. I had this issue when I first fired up Serato and noticed the waveforms were kind of chuggy. (on an older i5-2410 laptop with an Nvidia GT520) Explicitly creating a profile for Serato's exe in the Nvidia CP fixed that right up.

(serato's waveform rendering in 1.9.x uses OpenGL if I'm not mistaken)

Coherence 5:11 PM - 15 December, 2017

Thinking out loud - I haven't used the MCX8000, but might be worth checking to see if there is another process running in the background for the screens and creating a profile for that, explicitly. Again, no idea if that is the case, but it would make sense.

d:raf 6:17 PM - 15 December, 2017

I'm pretty sure the MCX8000 screens operate independently of the laptop's GPU since they work by themselves in standalone mode (i.e. without a computer at all).

It is good to turn down the screen brightness and set it to the single LED platter mode so that it doesn't use so much power, though.

djcrap 9:47 PM - 18 December, 2017

Gwad damn every time I thing I have gotten comfortable with the dj 808

I get proven wrong that I have not even scraped the surface of what the controller can do!

Watch m.youtube.com

Chino 10:08 PM - 18 December, 2017

Yes sir! I learn something new everyday using the DJ-808!!

onthe1 12:36 AM - 19 December, 2017

I really want to get an 808. I would still really like to see a fully featured Roland single deck controller instead though, with one of those low latency platters. I know it's been talked about on these forums, but maybe the Rane 12 was the answer to those demands.

And a new aira sampler would be great, because the SP-404a is literally nothing new.

Maybe a combination of those two would be good, with a sampler that can record loops and manipulate them on the fly from the single deck- using a combination of the Serato and Roland effects as well as sampler chopping and pitch and time manipulation, and then upload them to the serato dj sampler all in real time.

Chino 1:21 AM - 19 December, 2017

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And a new aira sampler would be great, because the SP-404a is literally nothing new.

Maybe a combination of those two would be good, with a sampler that can record loops and manipulate them on the fly from the single deck- using a combination of the Serato and Roland effects as well as sampler chopping and pitch and time manipulation, and then upload them to the serato dj sampler all in real time.

+1

Coherence 6:35 AM - 19 December, 2017

Quote:

I really want to get an 808. I would still really like to see a fully featured Roland single deck controller instead though, with one of those low latency platters. I know it's been talked about on these forums, but maybe the Rane 12 was the answer to those demands.

And a new aira sampler would be great, because the SP-404a is literally nothing new.

Maybe a combination of those two would be good, with a sampler that can record loops and manipulate them on the fly from the single deck- using a combination of the Serato and Roland effects as well as sampler chopping and pitch and time manipulation, and then upload them to the serato dj sampler all in real time.

Hell yes! Wonderful idea. Those platters are wonderful.

DJNitro12 10:34 AM - 20 December, 2017

One thing I can't figure out is can you split cue the headphones? So you have the cue on one side and what's actually playing on the other side?

jackdhouse 11:27 AM - 20 December, 2017

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One thing I can't figure out is can you split cue the headphones? So you have the cue on one side and what's actually playing on the other side?

There is a switch to the right of the headphone jack labelled Split Mono / Stereo. Make sure the switch is positioned to the left and you should be all good.

DJNitro12 11:28 AM - 20 December, 2017

Quote:

One thing I can't figure out is can you split cue the headphones? So you have the cue on one side and what's actually playing on the other side?

There is a switch to the right of the headphone jack labelled Split Mono / Stereo. Make sure the switch is positioned to the left and you should be all good.

Thank you

Chino 11:33 PM - 24 December, 2017

Merry Christmas & Happy Holidays!!

Roland has blessed us with a FREE 'LOOPMASTERS ROLAND DJ TOOLS' sample pack.
Thank you, Roland.

The link is below:

www.roland.com

the SOUNDINSURGENT 1:02 AM - 25 December, 2017

Let’s say you wanted to do some on the fly EDM style Trap which of the Roland Boutique series synthesizers would work best??

Now I know it’s a loaded question as not everyone thinks the same but I’ll check each option mentioned.

Thanks 🤘🏾

onthe1 2:25 PM - 26 December, 2017

Here's a tip for any DJ-202 and DJ-505 owners who are missing the individual level faders on the DJ-808 for mixing the sequenced TR and Serato DJ samples.

I simply MIDI mapped the individual sample slot volumes in Serato to a MIDI controller. (I'm using the knobs on a Behringer DV-1 which works well for this and can be had for about $25) I now have access to all eight sample volume controls (more than the DJ-808 can handle actually) as well as some other functions. (I mapped the sync buttons on each sample player which comes in handy)

Happy Holidays y'all.

the SOUNDINSURGENT 2:57 PM - 26 December, 2017

Quote:

Here's a tip for any DJ-202 and DJ-505 owners who are missing the individual level faders on the DJ-808 for mixing the sequenced TR and Serato DJ samples.

I simply MIDI mapped the individual sample slot volumes in Serato to a MIDI controller. (I'm using the knobs on a Behringer DV-1 which works well for this and can be had for about $25) I now have access to all eight sample volume controls (more than the DJ-808 can handle actually) as well as some other functions. (I mapped the sync buttons on each sample player which comes in handy)

Happy Holidays y'all.

Or a KORG NanoKontrol which can be found for even cheaper 👍🏾

onthe1 4:44 AM - 27 December, 2017

Quote:

Here's a tip for any DJ-202 and DJ-505 owners who are missing the individual level faders on the DJ-808 for mixing the sequenced TR and Serato DJ samples.

I simply MIDI mapped the individual sample slot volumes in Serato to a MIDI controller. (I'm using the knobs on a Behringer DV-1 which works well for this and can be had for about $25) I now have access to all eight sample volume controls (more than the DJ-808 can handle actually) as well as some other functions. (I mapped the sync buttons on each sample player which comes in handy)

Happy Holidays y'all.

Or a KORG NanoKontrol which can be found for even cheaper 👍🏾

Yeah, and actually I've realized that faders would work a bit better than knobs as you get more immediate control.

the SOUNDINSURGENT 1:59 PM - 27 December, 2017

For those with the 808/505 what synths are you using if any at all??

Coherence 3:29 PM - 27 December, 2017

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For those with the 808/505 what synths are you using if any at all??

MPC Live + Korg Monologue here. Probably going to add a TB next. (deciding on the Aira or boutique - leaning toward the latter)

the SOUNDINSURGENT 5:55 PM - 27 December, 2017

Quote:

For those with the 808/505 what synths are you using if any at all??

MPC Live + Korg Monologue here. Probably going to add a TB next. (deciding on the Aira or boutique - leaning toward the latter)

Nice 👍🏾

Think I’m gonna get a roland sh-01a or the jp-08 both produce some pretty decent sounds.

Coherence 8:28 AM - 28 December, 2017

Those will be super fun. I tend to prefer knobs to faders, but those are great synths and should add a really diverse set of tools to play with. If you haven't checked them out in person yet, stop by a music store and do so. The boutiques are likely smaller than you'd expect. Not a bad thing, but something to consider, especially for live use.

the SOUNDINSURGENT 8:23 PM - 2 January, 2018

Well I found a Korg Kaossilator for dirt cheap so hopefully I can get the midi clocks to sync and that should hold me over for a minute 👍🏾

Chino 8:32 PM - 2 January, 2018

Quote:

Well I found a Korg Kaossilator for dirt cheap so hopefully I can get the midi clocks to sync and that should hold me over for a minute 👍🏾

I have a KORG KP3+ & Kaossilator Pro+ all synced up via MIDI to the DJ-808. It works great!

anthracite98 9:09 PM - 2 January, 2018

I'm still debating 505 vs 808. I don't mind the idea of using a mini korg for midi volume levels. I guess I'm more concerned with:

-how good/useful/fun is the vocal section of the 808?
-any sound quality differences? (i doubt it)
-anything else missing from the 505 beyond the obvious channels and volume faders?

-----

My other question would be: any way I emulate the 808 at my club gig without a controller? (900/SL4/1200s) usb over midi with Aria TR-8 but no way to sequence sampler sounds right?

thanks for any input... and yes i've gone to GC to play with them a bit but over the holidays the staff and gear has been rough and i've never been able to hook a mic up, etc...

Coherence 4:49 AM - 3 January, 2018

Quote:

-how good/useful/fun is the vocal section of the 808?
-any sound quality differences? (i doubt it)
-anything else missing from the 505 beyond the obvious channels and volume faders?

-----

My other question would be: any way I emulate the 808 at my club gig without a controller? (900/SL4/1200s) usb over midi with Aria TR-8 but no way to sequence sampler sounds right?

The VT: It works just fine and is useful in that it provides direct control / volume / etc over the mic input on the face of the controller. I honestly don't use it as a mic input, but if you do, I'm sure that is useful. HOWEVER, I _DO_ use it for an additional line in for a monosynth! For this it is INCREDIBLY useful since I basically gain an extra channel without eating up any resources from the rest of the setup. To top that off, I get access to effects like a formant filter, reverb, and auto pitch. Pretty cool from that angle.

Sound: Unknown. Haven't tested side by side, but I would be mildly concerned that the 808 exposes so many I/O's to USB. This probably made for a more expensive sound card and I could see them whittling it down for a lower tier product to save money. (whether or not that impacted the DACs, I couldn't say)

Missing features:
-2 channels (obviously)
-Instrument channel faders on the TR-S
-Keyshift +/-
-Censor / reverse
-Quantize button
-View selector button (Panel/View)
-Dedicated TR-S / sampler fader
-Channel FX hardware effects (Filter / noise / dub echo / jet)

Those are the big ones I notice right off the bat. Whether or not those are important to you will be up to you. The 505 looks like a fantastic, no-nonsense version of the 808 and I'm sure would be a great choice. One thing the 505 has that the 808 doesn't and I wish it did: Nudge on the TR-S.

As for your last question about the 808 emulation - if using a TR-8, it has a sequencer so you'd only need a way to feed it clock. Ableton link might be a method to do this, though I've not tried to clock one over USB from a PC source, so your mileage may vary. Easy enough to add a USB MIDI clock host though.

Coherence 4:51 AM - 3 January, 2018

One more I forgot that is missing from the 505: Beatgrid slide and adjust buttons. Given Serato's erratic grid detection, this is a feature I use nearly every time I use the controller, so depending on if you do or not, this could be a key feature.

DJ Lalit 7:25 PM - 3 January, 2018

DJKayce,

I am also looking at getting the Denon MC6000mk2 or Numark NS6ii. The Roland also seemed enticing but in reality I would be wasting money on features I barely would use. I am a mobile DJ and while it would be great to have the sequencer and all, in reality I don't see myself using it in real world scenarios.

How would you compare the Numark NS6ii to MC6000mk2? I've done a ton of research but still can't decide on which one. I recently sold my setup of a Denon X500 mixer with HC5000 controller. I am very well aware of Denon products prior to InMusic's ownership and their products were built for reliability and solid.

I do like the fact that the Numark NS6ii has LED displays built into the jog wheel. That way I'm not staring into the computer screen all the time. I've never owned Numark equipment so I don't know how bulletproof the NS6ii is. Also many have complained about jogwheel issues with the NS6ii.

8823430 8:46 PM - 3 January, 2018

I am a mobile dj and i have just brought the denon mc7000.
It is rock steady and the sound i would say is a lot better than the ns6ii and the ns7ii which i had.
The denon mc7000 is part of the inmusic group but it is a very good product .

onthe1 9:42 PM - 3 January, 2018

Quote:

I'm still debating 505 vs 808. I don't mind the idea of using a mini korg for midi volume levels. I guess I'm more concerned with:

-how good/useful/fun is the vocal section of the 808?
-any sound quality differences? (i doubt it)
-anything else missing from the 505 beyond the obvious channels and volume faders?

-----

My other question would be: any way I emulate the 808 at my club gig without a controller? (900/SL4/1200s) usb over midi with Aria TR-8 but no way to sequence sampler sounds right?

thanks for any input... and yes i've gone to GC to play with them a bit but over the holidays the staff and gear has been rough and i've never been able to hook a mic up, etc...

My TR-8 syncs perfectly to my DJ-202 via MIDI cable. You can sequence a hardware sampler such as an SP-404a with the TR-8 but as far as I know the only way to sequence the Serato sampler is with a Roland DJ controller. (DJ-808, DJ-505, or DJ-202)

DJKayce 2:49 AM - 4 January, 2018

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DJKayce,

I am also looking at getting the Denon MC6000mk2 or Numark NS6ii. The Roland also seemed enticing but in reality I would be wasting money on features I barely would use. I am a mobile DJ and while it would be great to have the sequencer and all, in reality I don't see myself using it in real world scenarios.

How would you compare the Numark NS6ii to MC6000mk2? I've done a ton of research but still can't decide on which one. I recently sold my setup of a Denon X500 mixer with HC5000 controller. I am very well aware of Denon products prior to InMusic's ownership and their products were built for reliability and solid.

I do like the fact that the Numark NS6ii has LED displays built into the jog wheel. That way I'm not staring into the computer screen all the time. I've never owned Numark equipment so I don't know how bulletproof the NS6ii is. Also many have complained about jogwheel issues with the NS6ii.

Am only familiar with MC6000MK2. Which is rock solid for me the past 3 or 4 years. have not use the new NS62.

DJ Lalit 5:18 AM - 4 January, 2018

Do you feel the layout is a bit cramped?

DJKayce 2:43 AM - 5 January, 2018

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Do you feel the layout is a bit cramped?

Yes very very cramped. it took me a while to get use to it.

onthe1 1:46 PM - 7 January, 2018

Quote:

My other question would be: any way I emulate the 808 at my club gig without a controller? (900/SL4/1200s) usb over midi with Aria TR-8 but no way to sequence sampler sounds right?

I've been thinking about this some more and I don't see any reason why the Serato DJ sampler can't be sequenced by an external midi sequencer as long as you can get the correct midi notes lined up. I'm going to work on it with the sequencer on my TR-8 and see how it plays out.

Here's someone who did something like this but with hot cues:
djtechtools.com

onthe1 2:49 PM - 7 January, 2018

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-how good/useful/fun is the vocal section of the 808?

The VT: It works just fine and is useful in that it provides direct control / volume / etc over the mic input on the face of the controller. I honestly don't use it as a mic input, but if you do, I'm sure that is useful. HOWEVER, I _DO_ use it for an additional line in for a monosynth! For this it is INCREDIBLY useful since I basically gain an extra channel without eating up any resources from the rest of the setup. To top that off, I get access to effects like a formant filter, reverb, and auto pitch. Pretty cool from that angle.

I'm not sure if you can do this with a DJ-808 alone but several people have found a TR running through a VT to produce some interesting sound options:
Watch www.youtube.com

djcrap 7:10 PM - 25 January, 2018

Roland just announced 1.1 firmware update for Roland dj 808 and Dj 202,505

Will be available on Jan 30th

www.rolandus.com

So excited

BobbyDuracel 10:10 PM - 25 January, 2018

So will the 808 have 8 voices per kit (like the 505) now?

Nudge- such a killer thing.

BobbyDuracel 10:11 PM - 25 January, 2018

Now if only ableton would announce a purchase of serato & the bridge 2.0, I think I could go that way.

jackdhouse 10:49 PM - 25 January, 2018

808 New TR-S drum sounds:

909 Low Tom/808 Low Tom/707 Low Tom
909 Rim Shot/808 Rim Shot/707 Rim Shot/606 Rim Shot
909 Ride Cymbal/707 Ride Cymbal
606 Crash Cymbal
808 Cowbell

BobbyDuracel 11:12 PM - 25 January, 2018

Quote:

808 New TR-S drum sounds:

909 Low Tom/808 Low Tom/707 Low Tom
909 Rim Shot/808 Rim Shot/707 Rim Shot/606 Rim Shot
909 Ride Cymbal/707 Ride Cymbal
606 Crash Cymbal
808 Cowbell

I read that as well, but it doesn't specify whether or not the TR-S will play 8 voices per kit now, versus just having more sounds to bank through. I assume they provided all 8, but thought confirmation would be useful.

jackdhouse 11:17 PM - 25 January, 2018

Quote:

808 New TR-S drum sounds:

909 Low Tom/808 Low Tom/707 Low Tom
909 Rim Shot/808 Rim Shot/707 Rim Shot/606 Rim Shot
909 Ride Cymbal/707 Ride Cymbal
606 Crash Cymbal
808 Cowbell

I read that as well, but it doesn't specify whether or not the TR-S will play 8 voices per kit now, versus just having more sounds to bank through. I assume they provided all 8, but thought confirmation would be useful.

Agreed

SG SOUNDS 11:35 PM - 25 January, 2018

Quote:

Roland just announced 1.1 firmware update for Roland dj 808 and Dj 202,505

Will be available on Jan 30th

www.rolandus.com

So excited

still no info on the pitch problem and also the headphone volume...did they fix this?

938MyDJ 11:36 PM - 25 January, 2018

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So will the 808 have 8 voices per kit (like the 505) now?

Should be... otherwise the 505 will become the flagship.

So Fresh 9:26 AM - 26 January, 2018

after looking at firmware spec I don't think 808 has been expended but it does say this about the 505

"Number of kits expanded from 8 to 12"

So Fresh 9:29 AM - 26 January, 2018

I've not tried them to say but if the 505 platters were as good as the 808's then I would swap over for sure

DJ Val-BKNY11203 4:21 PM - 26 January, 2018

I think I am ordering one today.

So Fresh 7:44 PM - 26 January, 2018

Shocked about how rubbish that 808 fw is after a year of feed back. I really thought Roland were going to be different naively :(

DJ Marv the Maverick 7:56 PM - 26 January, 2018

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Shocked about how rubbish that 808 fw is after a year of feed back. I really thought Roland were going to be different naively :(

What do you mean by rubbish?...Just curious.

Other than the "deadzone" around the zero pitch which I'm not sure can be fixed by firmware (I contacted Roland UK and they say it's by design) it's a great unit.

It's stable, it's loud and punchy, super tight jog wheel and also easy to carry around. Funny enough my favourite feature of the controller has nothing to do with the core function...it's the carry handles on the side makes it easy to pick up after a gig.

Some folks have pointed out that the headphone isn't loud enough....I don't think so in my case. I have the headphone gain knob at barely 11 o clock. I use a vmoda 100.

jackdhouse 8:00 PM - 26 January, 2018

I was hoping for the ability to use more than one sample bank at a time would be added for the 808. Hopefully the added drum sounds arent crammed into the current 4 drum sound preset buttons.

So Fresh 12:08 AM - 27 January, 2018

Headphone volumes never been a problem for me

But

More voices/ kits

pitch faders but as you said that's never gone happen

Trs recordabilty of rolls

Trs midi sync with software for better studio integration and triggering with abelton for.

Method to display pad markers like they have on new pioneer.

Individual shuffle control on voices

After a year I guess I was expecting more but as you said it has been stable apart from mine having to go back twice and replaced in the end.because of bleeding none user up faders.

I Was expecting more fuctuailty to be unlocked after it's release and not over a year after release

DJ Marv the Maverick 12:22 AM - 27 January, 2018

Quote:

Headphone volumes never been a problem for me

But

More voices/ kits

pitch faders but as you said that's never gone happen

Trs recordabilty of rolls

Trs midi sync with software for better studio integration and triggering with abelton for.

Method to display pad markers like they have on new pioneer.

Individual shuffle control on voices

After a year I guess I was expecting more but as you said it has been stable apart from mine having to go back twice and replaced in the end.because of bleeding none user up faders.

I Was expecting more fuctuailty to be unlocked after it's release and not over a year after release

Damn you some power user 😎

Why don't you shoot them an email so you can have an idea what is possible to implement and what's not.

1. It will help with your expectations

2. They might take it on board for a follow up unit should they continue releasing more stuff.

Yeah the pitch fader bit is a downer.

Coherence 1:15 AM - 27 January, 2018

If the pitch fader resolution turns out to be a hardware limitation and unable to be patched, then my use of this product will unfortunately come to a close. =(

It is a really nice controller, but that is such a basic thing. No hard feelings, but it would have been nice of Roland to just come out and state this was the case. (Almost every release review called it out)

Example from May 2017 (Mojaxx, DJCity) youtu.be

So Fresh 12:11 PM - 27 January, 2018

HA! power user: ) i wish

but i am trying

i have sent an emails roland and the response has been the unit is capable of a lot more but it needs the green light from HQ japan i believe to really get what it is possible out of the unit

Coherence 10:29 PM - 27 January, 2018

I'd believe it. I had to crack mine open due to the channel faders breaking off the board and the internal hardware is actually pretty impressive. That's actually been one of the main drivers of my hope they would fix the pitch resolution at some point, even if it was some kind of software interpolation of the values. (each deck and the mixer section each have their own ARM Cortex M3 microcontroller) I didn't pull the deck sections out to see what the fader looked like for the pitch control, but the channel faders and crossfader are obviously analog controls so I'd have no reason to expect the pitch faders would be any different. (allowing for theoretically near infinite location reporting)

Fingers crossed.

onthe1 7:46 AM - 29 January, 2018

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Now if only ableton would announce a purchase of serato & the bridge 2.0, I think I could go that way.

^this

I missed the bridge the first time around and looking at what it offered it looks like what I need as far as integrating Serato with Ableton. I've been working on trying to reproduce some of the functions through workarounds although I haven't gotten very far yet, including issues I'm having with Ableton link. I'm still tweaking it but these Roland controllers and how well they integrate with other gear, especially the other Aira gear, has spoiled me.

It's the core software that seems to need improvement, at least for my various set-ups. I'm hoping that Serato 2.0 and the coming Ableton 10 improvements to link will improve upon this, although a bridge 2.0 would be even better. Improved MIDI input/output from Serato is sorely missing.

So,

+1

Sarp 3:53 PM - 30 January, 2018

Happy to announce that the new update has made the pitch fader ultra accurate, I could even dare saying that its more accurate than any other controller or cdj. I am also in love with the 4 new effects. In my honest opinion this last update has put the 808 to the top of the controller rankings by far, mad props to Roland for listening to our complaints and literally fixing all of them

So Fresh 4:03 PM - 30 January, 2018

haven't tested the faders yet but the new delay is great!

I might have to eat my moaning posts if the faders are sorted :)

BoogieMan34950 6:57 PM - 30 January, 2018

NewBee, updated & my first controller, I love it!!!

Sarp 7:01 PM - 30 January, 2018

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haven't tested the faders yet but the new delay is great!

I might have to eat my moaning posts if the faders are sorted :)

Believe me they are amazing. At this point I am confident that the faders themselves are analogue and it was a communication issue with serato. With this new update you can move it in 0.03-0.05% increments. If you have the bpm display set to 1 decimal its a breeze. Even at 2 decimals it takes me maybe 4-5 seconds to get +/- 0.02 from the bpm of the playing track

Cnspeace 8:08 PM - 30 January, 2018

Just tested the faders ! I am so happy ! this issue wasn't killing me that bad, but was a major irritant. Very Precise now ! This is the best controller in the game.

So Fresh 8:23 PM - 30 January, 2018

Do you still have the centre dead space?

Sarp 8:24 PM - 30 January, 2018

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Do you still have the centre dead space?

Nope

So Fresh 8:25 PM - 30 January, 2018

Uhmm I do

Sarp 8:26 PM - 30 January, 2018

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Uhmm I do

Did you update? Because after the update I no longer have that dead space

So Fresh 8:29 PM - 30 January, 2018

yea just checked 1.10

So Fresh 8:43 PM - 30 January, 2018

tried re installing the FW but between the centre two notches top and bottom its dead

Cnspeace 8:49 PM - 30 January, 2018

Quote:

tried re installing the FW but between the centre two notches top and bottom its dead

I see what you mean. The space above and below 0 is huge before the pitch actually moves. I can slide almost to the first notch after 0 and get no change.

So Fresh 8:58 PM - 30 January, 2018

Yup that’s it

Has that got worse or was it like that before?

Has anyone got smooth fader with out the dead space?

Cnspeace 9:07 PM - 30 January, 2018

It was not like that before. The accuracy is great, but a big dead spot before & after 0.
I got a track on now at 90.4. I have to slide almost to the first line before it hits 90.5.

jackdhouse 9:10 PM - 30 January, 2018

Mine has dead space from 0 to about 2/3 the way to the first tick mark in either direction. Mine has been this way since i got it about a year ago.

Coherence 2:49 AM - 31 January, 2018

This is fantastic news! Everything outside of the fader resolution is just icing. High five, Roland!!

Coherence 3:42 AM - 31 January, 2018

Update / correction:

Ok, the update definitely improved the hell out of the pitch faders, but the communication to Serato is still a bit iffy. It could be that this is my sample size of one and Serato just doesn't "do" hundredths very well or my version of accurate vs others is just not on the same level. (previous experience: Traktor with a Kontrol S4. 0.01 was the step, period. Every single fraction of a millimeter was another 0.01 without fail)

I went from 0.08-0.18 per step to now 0.08-0.1 per step onscreen, though I suspect they are actually more accurate than that as it felt very smooth and consistent to my ear when matching. I also managed to catch what appears to be a little helper algorithm in the mix. If you approach and miss your target by a 0.03ish or so once or twice and try again, you'll actually see the display fudge it into lockstep. (you'll watch 125.35 twitch into 125.37 to match your existing 125.37 if you attempt it a time or two) Could just be coincidence or being glitchy, but it seemed to want to help, so I'll let it. ;)

Color me happy. I can now very easily match tracks without playing the 'am I hearing shit?' game. If they can tighten up the translation to the screen, that would be awesome as well.

Off to go play with the new additions. (NUDGE ON TR-S!! WOOO!!)

Chino 2:54 PM - 31 January, 2018

Roland has definitely improved the pitch fader resolution with this firmware update! Nudge on the TR-S, extra efxs & the new drum sounds are much appreciated!!

It's refreshing (in a positive way) to have a company like Roland actually listen to direct user feedback & implement it on their products. GREAT job, Roland!

DJ Bully 2:56 PM - 31 January, 2018

Yes echo the comments here, GREAT JOB Roland! Keep up the good work :)

So Fresh 6:25 PM - 31 January, 2018

Can anyone explain to me what the backspin function does?

Coherence 6:39 PM - 31 January, 2018

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Can anyone explain to me what the backspin function does?

Artificially extends the length of the backspin. Useful since the platter tension is not adjustable. You can make your backspins varying degrees of exaggerated past what the actual platter does. There are 3 settings, (well, and 'off') that will exaggerate the spin length progressively longer.

So Fresh 6:45 PM - 31 January, 2018

Thanks fella, i’ve been playing and kind of got naughty with the cue buttons instead of back spinning. What have you set yours to out of interest?

So Fresh 11:08 PM - 31 January, 2018

FUCK!!!!! back spin changed my life :) i didn't even know i needed it

the platters feel so much more like a deck

amazing:) !!

So Fresh 11:14 PM - 31 January, 2018

Not sure which one is the closest to a 12” i’ve set to the longest but my cuts just improved instantly

Really clever!

Coherence 2:19 AM - 1 February, 2018

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Thanks fella, i’ve been playing and kind of got naughty with the cue buttons instead of back spinning. What have you set yours to out of interest?

I still have mine set to off, but I'll probably give it a try this weekend and see what I think. My only concern is how it detects backspin vs. just scratching / backcueing. Don't want to lose precision, but I definitely wouldn't mind some extra tail on a throw.

So Fresh 8:30 AM - 1 February, 2018

i can't tell if i'm cheating with it on as i suddenly got delusions of DMC:)

it gives you a lot more time and actually seems more accurate for juggles and cuts as regards to mixing i don't see any loss in accuracy but with the immediate jump in quality ( according to me) something feels too good to be true and must be helping.

gonna set up my vestax and try and do a comparison over the weekend

does it give you stabilisers or is it more accurate to the feel of a vinyl or a lager platter

So Fresh 11:43 AM - 1 February, 2018

I just spoke to someone at Roland as i'm so intrigued by the backspin function, it's essentially made the platters virtually larger if that makes sense.

he could not confirm but normal was 12" and long probably 16"

really changed the feel of them

deejayayup 12:40 PM - 1 February, 2018

I've tried updating my 505 but after copying the .bin file to the Roland folder, ejecting the Roland drive and then disconnecting the USB cable, the screen on my 505 says error and all lights flash red. Does anybody know what the problem is?

Chino 1:17 PM - 1 February, 2018

Quote:

I've tried updating my 505 but after copying the .bin file to the Roland folder, ejecting the Roland drive and then disconnecting the USB cable, the screen on my 505 says error and all lights flash red. Does anybody know what the problem is?

I had this happen to me while attemping to update to the 1.10 firmware. I ended up repeating the installation process & then it worked.

DJ Marv the Maverick 2:35 PM - 1 February, 2018

Is the deadzone still there with the 808?

Coherence 3:06 PM - 1 February, 2018

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Is the deadzone still there with the 808?

It is, unfortunately.

Chino 8:32 PM - 1 February, 2018

Quote:

Is the deadzone still there with the 808?

It is, unfortunately.

The dead zone is still there. I mentioned this before BUT the pitch resolution has improved. It's a very noticeable improvement!

I'm now testing the back spin adjustment to see which setting has a more realistic feel. I currently have it on 'normal'.

Coherence 9:35 PM - 1 February, 2018

The deadzone doesn't really bother me. I never did get Technics M3D's (always owned mk2's) so the quartz lock deadzone is a pretty familiar analog to these faders. Not a big deal at all.

Would I be happier if they weren't there? Sure. Does it impact my usage? Nah.

SG SOUNDS 9:33 PM - 2 February, 2018

Any body else having problems updating to the new firmware? i get err message when i try to update...i followed all the directions on the site but when i hit clear to start the update i get a err message..

DJ Val-BKNY11203 10:47 PM - 2 February, 2018

As of yesterday I am an official DJ-808 owner. My very first set up other than turntables in the decades I have been spinning. I updated it and half ass checked it out before using it on my online radio show. (Big mistake LOL) Huge learning curve for me, but so far I'm loving it. Looking forward to mastering it and taking over the world one button push at a time.

#LongLiveSync

Coherence 11:00 PM - 2 February, 2018

Quote:

As of yesterday I am an official DJ-808 owner. My very first set up other than turntables in the decades I have been spinning. I updated it and half ass checked it out before using it on my online radio show. (Big mistake LOL) Huge learning curve for me, but so far I'm loving it. Looking forward to mastering it and taking over the world one button push at a time.

#LongLiveSync

Awesome!! Welcome to a near endless toolkit of transitional joy. =D

Quote:

Any body else having problems updating to the new firmware? i get err message when i try to update...i followed all the directions on the site but when i hit clear to start the update i get a err message..

Luckily, I did not encounter any issues. Did you copy the .BIN file only (not the folder - don't copy the folder) to the 808 before updating? Also, did you disconnect USB (using eject in OS) prior to confirming the update with 'Clear'?

Chino 12:25 AM - 3 February, 2018

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As of yesterday I am an official DJ-808 owner.

Welcome to the club! The DJ-808 will open up a whole universe of creativity just by practicing & taking the time to learn it.

Speaking of learning…today I figured out how to make a Jersey Club type beat on the TR-S.
: )

SG SOUNDS 2:06 AM - 3 February, 2018

Quote:

As of yesterday I am an official DJ-808 owner. My very first set up other than turntables in the decades I have been spinning. I updated it and half ass checked it out before using it on my online radio show. (Big mistake LOL) Huge learning curve for me, but so far I'm loving it. Looking forward to mastering it and taking over the world one button push at a time.

#LongLiveSync

Awesome!! Welcome to a near endless toolkit of transitional joy. =D

Quote:

Any body else having problems updating to the new firmware? i get err message when i try to update...i followed all the directions on the site but when i hit clear to start the update i get a err message..

Luckily, I did not encounter any issues. Did you copy the .BIN file only (not the folder - don't copy the folder) to the 808 before updating? Also, did you disconnect USB (using eject in OS) prior to confirming the update with 'Clear'?

I was copying the folder...the .BIN file inside the folder is another zipped file and I can't unzip it...the zip file I download from Rolands site unzip with no prob, then I get a folder and inside that folder is another zip file and that one won't extract..

938MyDJ 2:25 AM - 3 February, 2018

Seem to be very straight forward...

Watch www.youtube.com

JDforKing 2:39 AM - 3 February, 2018

Has anyone had a chance to hear the 505 and does it have similar sound quality to the 808?

Coherence 4:07 AM - 3 February, 2018

Quote:

I was copying the folder...the .BIN file inside the folder is another zipped file and I can't unzip it...the zip file I download from Rolands site unzip with no prob, then I get a folder and inside that folder is another zip file and that one won't extract..

Inside the zip is a folder with the .BIN inside. Just copy the .BIN file - no need to do anything with it other than place it on the 808's exposed storage volume.

djcrap 7:11 AM - 3 February, 2018

Quote:

As of yesterday I am an official DJ-808 owner. My very first set up other than turntables in the decades I have been spinning. I updated it and half ass checked it out before using it on my online radio show. (Big mistake LOL) Huge learning curve for me, but so far I'm loving it. Looking forward to mastering it and taking over the world one button push at a time.

#LongLiveSync

Replace that stock fader with a mini innofader pro!
Thank me later

djcrap 7:16 AM - 3 February, 2018

Quote:

Any body else having problems updating to the new firmware? i get err message when i try to update...i followed all the directions on the site but when i hit clear to start the update i get a err message..

You have to disconnect the USB cable from the laptop and controller before you hit clear!

BobbyDuracel 8:11 AM - 3 February, 2018

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So will the 808 have 8 voices per kit (like the 505) now?

Should be... otherwise the 505 will become the flagship.

Sound logic, but they released the 505, which had way more TR-S functionality with the 808 "flagship" model just collecting dust.

SG SOUNDS 12:52 PM - 3 February, 2018

Quote:

I was copying the folder...the .BIN file inside the folder is another zipped file and I can't unzip it...the zip file I download from Rolands site unzip with no prob, then I get a folder and inside that folder is another zip file and that one won't extract..

Inside the zip is a folder with the .BIN inside. Just copy the .BIN file - no need to do anything with it other than place it on the 808's exposed storage volume.

Ok I'll try it again when I reach home...thanks

SG SOUNDS 1:37 PM - 3 February, 2018

Quote:

Any body else having problems updating to the new firmware? i get err message when i try to update...i followed all the directions on the site but when i hit clear to start the update i get a err message..

You have to disconnect the USB cable from the laptop and controller before you hit clear!

Yes I did that...I think what I'm doing wrong is copying the folder to the 808 instead of copying the zip inside of the folder to the 808...I'm gonna try again later on.

SG SOUNDS 1:41 PM - 3 February, 2018

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Has anyone had a chance to hear the 505 and does it have similar sound quality to the 808?

they are different sound cards..the 808 is capable up to 96khz the 505 48khz

JDforKing 2:12 PM - 3 February, 2018

Quote:

Has anyone had a chance to hear the 505 and does it have similar sound quality to the 808?

they are different sound cards..the 808 is capable up to 96khz the 505 48khz

Thanks

SG SOUNDS 1:59 AM - 4 February, 2018

Quote:

I was copying the folder...the .BIN file inside the folder is another zipped file and I can't unzip it...the zip file I download from Rolands site unzip with no prob, then I get a folder and inside that folder is another zip file and that one won't extract..

Inside the zip is a folder with the .BIN inside. Just copy the .BIN file - no need to do anything with it other than place it on the 808's exposed storage volume.

Ok I'll try it again when I reach home...thanks

Got it to work..thanks man

So Fresh 2:56 PM - 5 February, 2018

I still have not seen one live but watching a few videos on the 505
roland could introduce the extra voices on the 808 using the pads and shift key to programme

why would they not do it?

trimpage 7:19 PM - 5 February, 2018

has anyone figured out how to actually use the TRS nudge?

So Fresh 10:19 PM - 5 February, 2018

Page 18 on the new manual

BobbyDuracel 3:39 AM - 6 February, 2018

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I still have not seen one live but watching a few videos on the 505
roland could introduce the extra voices on the 808 using the pads and shift key to programme

why would they not do it?

It seems like a no-brainer, unless they are trying to maintain a distinct difference between the 505 and 808 (to keep 505 sales coming). I do not get it. The 808 has the AIRA port, 5 fader channels, more control over the first 4 sounds in a kit, indicator on the jog wheels, etc. - so it's still much superior to the 505. They would still sell loads of 505 units if they fix the 808 TR-S sounds.

Again, if they would just do that, they would gain at least one or two customers overnight. When Serato Pro comes out (soon, eh) with improved beat grid, the 808 would really sit atop the pile of controllers (in my mind) if they would add the full 8 voices. The competition for this hypothetical hybrid "do it all" badass box does not exist!

So Fresh 1:18 PM - 6 February, 2018

yea i don't get it, the sounds are in the box they just need to make them playable

Descry 5:20 AM - 12 February, 2018

Hey guys, here are tips for the DJ-808 update. These are updated within the manual, but there wasn't a quick file as follows:
*Added Additional TR-S Sounds
1. BD+VALUE:90Lt/80Lt/70Lt
2. CH+VALUE:90Rs/80Rs/70Rs/60Rs
3. OH+VALUE:90Rc/80Cb/70Rc/60Cc

*Added Master Effect for TR-S
1. Press and hold [ACC]
2. Rotate TUNE, ATTACK, DECAY to change effect values
3. Parameters:
· TUNE:Drive
· ATTACK:Compressor
· DECAY:Transient

*Added New Channel FX
1. SHIFT + DUB ECHO : DELAY
2. SHIFT + JET : PAHSER
3. SHIFT + NOISE : NOISE2
4. SHIFT + FILTER : BIT CRUSH

*Added TR-S Nudge Function
1. Press [SHIFT ]+ [SHUFFLE] to enter Nudge function and rotate value knob to change

*Add MIC effect reverb type.
1. Hold down [PANEL] and turn power and press [ACC]

2. Parameter:
· Reverb
· Delay
· Delay + Reverb

*Added Back Spin Length setting
1. Hold down [PANEL] and turn power
2. Press [SD] and rotate value knob to set the desired spin back time

Add Tap tempo
1. Press SHIFT + CUE (TR/SAMPLER)

Added Input AUX Mode
1. Hold down [PANEL] and turn power and press [BD]
2. All Line input channel are mixed to master out

eltitofranki 10:12 PM - 12 February, 2018

Quote:

Hey guys, here are tips for the DJ-808 update. These are updated within the manual, but there wasn't a quick file as follows:
*Added Additional TR-S Sounds
1. BD+VALUE:90Lt/80Lt/70Lt
2. CH+VALUE:90Rs/80Rs/70Rs/60Rs
3. OH+VALUE:90Rc/80Cb/70Rc/60Cc

*Added Master Effect for TR-S
1. Press and hold [ACC]
2. Rotate TUNE, ATTACK, DECAY to change effect values
3. Parameters:
· TUNE:Drive
· ATTACK:Compressor
· DECAY:Transient

*Added New Channel FX
1. SHIFT + DUB ECHO : DELAY
2. SHIFT + JET : PAHSER
3. SHIFT + NOISE : NOISE2
4. SHIFT + FILTER : BIT CRUSH

*Added TR-S Nudge Function
1. Press [SHIFT ]+ [SHUFFLE] to enter Nudge function and rotate value knob to change

*Add MIC effect reverb type.
1. Hold down [PANEL] and turn power and press [ACC]

2. Parameter:
· Reverb
· Delay
· Delay + Reverb

*Added Back Spin Length setting
1. Hold down [PANEL] and turn power
2. Press [SD] and rotate value knob to set the desired spin back time

Add Tap tempo
1. Press SHIFT + CUE (TR/SAMPLER)

Added Input AUX Mode
1. Hold down [PANEL] and turn power and press [BD]
2. All Line input channel are mixed to master out

Thank you very much Descry for this information!!

DJKayce 12:44 AM - 13 February, 2018

Ok am back again with the 808 since i sold my 1st unit bcos of the initial issues. I used my new 808 over the weekend and all I have to say is WOW !!!!!!!
I like the improvements from the firmware updates Version 1.10. Kudos to the Roland team.

Descry 12:49 AM - 13 February, 2018

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Ok am back again with the 808 since i sold my 1st unit bcos of the initial issues. I used my new 808 over the weekend and all I have to say is WOW !!!!!!!
I like the improvements from the firmware updates Version 1.10. Kudos to the Roland team.

thanks for the kind words, we worked hard to make the unit the best we can!

DJKayce 12:51 AM - 13 February, 2018

Added Back Spin Length setting
1. Hold down [PANEL] and turn power
2. Press [SD] and rotate value knob to set the desired spin back time

Can someone explains this well for me?
Are we talking about the regular backspin here?

Why am asking is that I chose the normal and long from the settings and I can't figure the difference. my platters still behaves the same. Thought it will give me a longer spin or a normal spin.

Descry 12:59 AM - 13 February, 2018

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Added Back Spin Length setting
1. Hold down [PANEL] and turn power
2. Press [SD] and rotate value knob to set the desired spin back time

Can someone explains this well for me?
Are we talking about the regular backspin here?

Why am asking is that I chose the normal and long from the settings and I can't figure the difference. my platters still behaves the same. Thought it will give me a longer spin or a normal spin.

yeah, it's related to regular backspin. long should give you a longer spin.

did you factory reset after updating?

DJKayce 1:03 AM - 13 February, 2018

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did you factory reset after updating?

Yes. I will try it again.but overall am happy with the controller. thanks.

onthe1 1:07 AM - 13 February, 2018

Article on the new firmware with some details on the current differences between the Roland DJ controllers:

cdm.link

kmeex 6:34 PM - 14 February, 2018

Anyone noticed that after firmware update The "takeover indicator LEDs" are not working no matter what position your pitch sliders are. LEDs Blink during The startup phase, but not working with Serato. Any suggestions?
Mac i5 late2011 newest driver+firmware highSierra.

Descry 7:21 PM - 14 February, 2018

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Anyone noticed that after firmware update The "takeover indicator LEDs" are not working no matter what position your pitch sliders are. LEDs Blink during The startup phase, but not working with Serato. Any suggestions?
Mac i5 late2011 newest driver+firmware highSierra.

have you tried a factory reset after your firmware update?

kmeex 7:24 PM - 14 February, 2018

Yes

Descry 7:24 PM - 14 February, 2018

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Yes

some users have reported that they needed to reset twice. give that a try and see if it helps.

Descry 7:26 PM - 14 February, 2018

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Yes

i'm sorry, i read your post wrong.

the tempo fader indicator lights dont work while controller is in use. this has been the case since initial release.

kmeex 7:30 PM - 14 February, 2018

OK do you have More info on this? Coz I remember that it worked on older firmware, I was using the Windows though Back then.

onthe1 10:02 AM - 17 February, 2018

Hey y'all,

I've got a few questions about the DJ-808 that maybe someone can help me out with:

-How many channels does the sound card have? Is it 2-in/4-out like with the DJ-202? (2-in for stereo recording and 4-out for headphone and master stereo outs, so 6 channels total)

-Can MIDI messages be sent in and out through the USB Aira links on the DJ-808 to/from Serato or a DAW (like on an MX-1) so that connected Roland hardware can communicate through USB-MIDI with the computer when the DJ-808 is connected to the computer via USB?

-Has anyone aggregated/combined sound cards with the DJ-808 and other (Aira) gear? Is it stable? At low sample rates?

-How does the sound quality compare between different Roland DJ controller models? I know that the DJ-808 has higher sampling frequencies available (96kHz) as compared to the 202 and 505 (48kHz) so I assume it has different circuitry and probably better sound as well.

DJ Bully 2:23 PM - 19 February, 2018

Thanks Roland for the 1.10 system update. It adds a lot of valuable abilities and more samples for the TR-S.

However I am disappointed that the pitch sliders are still really in-accurate.

Ideally I'd want them to have a resolution of 0.01 on the BPM in serato, just as my V7's (love them things) did.

Currently it's just not viable to mix Techno, at least, on the DJ-808 without using the sync button. You just cant get the BPM's matched in any sort of sensible time frame. Mixing techno, where you are in the mix for 2,3 evn 4 mins at a time, BPMs need precision matching or they will be drift.

I really hope the pitch sliders can be improved further in upcoming releases :)

I know that I can use the laptop key board to set the BPM precisely, but surely that is defeating the purpose of having the digital controller no?

Anyway thanks for everything I really love the 808, it has really opened door for DJ/producers to get right into it!

Cheers,
Bully

eltitofranki 3:45 PM - 19 February, 2018

I own a Dj-808 and I love it!!

But I have two questions:

1. Is it possible to zoom in/out the waveform displayed in serato, from the Dj-808?

2. As far as I know, the sound card of this device is not class compliant. It requires specific drivers to work in Windows and Mac. However, I would like to create a MIDI mapping for this controller to be used in Mixxx software (in linux). Does anybody know if there are drivers of the sound card of this controller that work under Linux? Or if there is any possiblity to swicth from specific drivers to class compliant so I can create the mapping for linux?

DJ Bully 4:32 PM - 19 February, 2018

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I own a Dj-808 and I love it!!

1. Is it possible to zoom in/out the waveform displayed in serato, from the Dj-808?

Yes the keyboard controls for this are +/- on the number pad. You may need to make sure you have CAPS LOCK on for the keyboard controls to work.

eltitofranki 5:46 PM - 19 February, 2018

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I own a Dj-808 and I love it!!

1. Is it possible to zoom in/out the waveform displayed in serato, from the Dj-808?

Yes the keyboard controls for this are +/- on the number pad. You may need to make sure you have CAPS LOCK on for the keyboard controls to work.

Yes I know that, I meant if its possible from the controller itself, without the need to go to the keyboard

DJ Bully 9:34 PM - 19 February, 2018

Ahh yes, sorry there’s no way that I know of.

deancrake 11:23 PM - 22 February, 2018

quick one do the old channel fx get over written in the update or can you switch between old and new fx while playing live ?

DJ Marv the Maverick 12:16 AM - 23 February, 2018

Old ones are still available. You can access the new ones by pressing shift and the FX button

djcrap 12:36 AM - 24 February, 2018

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Added Back Spin Length setting
1. Hold down [PANEL] and turn power
2. Press [SD] and rotate value knob to set the desired spin back time

Can someone explains this well for me?
Are we talking about the regular backspin here?

Why am asking is that I chose the normal and long from the settings and I can't figure the difference. my platters still behaves the same. Thought it will give me a longer spin or a normal spin.

yeah, it's related to regular backspin. long should give you a longer spin.

did you factory reset after updating?

Which setting is closer to a 12 inch platter back spin.

So Fresh 8:40 PM - 25 February, 2018

i would say normal but i have really been liking long

DJ Bully 12:42 PM - 26 February, 2018

I have mine set to long, and to me that is just about right for a decent spin back.

Chino 2:57 AM - 27 February, 2018

For those who don't already know- SDJ Pro has some specific improvements for Roland controllers….

Fixed Roland TR-S not correctly aligning with the beatgrid

Added Mix + Mic + TR recording options for the Roland DJ-202

Fixed an issue where the Roland DJ-808 could not connect to Serato DJ on macOS High Sierra

eltitofranki 11:02 PM - 27 February, 2018

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For those who don't already know- SDJ Pro has some specific improvements for Roland controllers….

Fixed Roland TR-S not correctly aligning with the beatgrid

Added Mix + Mic + TR recording options for the Roland DJ-202

Fixed an issue where the Roland DJ-808 could not connect to Serato DJ on macOS High Sierra

Good news! This controller is amazing, I am having so much fun with it!

iernei 9:12 PM - 28 February, 2018

Really impressed with the firmware update.
It was certainly worth waiting for.
Pitch accuracy is still not perfect but much better and workable. I must admit I was affraid that Roland can't repair it with firmware.

Haven't try the official release of Serato Pro, yet but the latest beta build was stable.
One question though. Didn't try it before but on Saturday night I've turned on effects in Serato DJ (1.9.10). Those were assigned to external sound source connected through line in. And to my surprise it worked. Is this normal behaviour? Didn't know that you can use internal effects for external sources, actually I've never had a need for it before.

938MyDJ 11:40 PM - 28 February, 2018

It’s Normal... I’ve used them with USB inputs decks 3/4 eversince.

DJ Marv the Maverick 7:59 PM - 4 March, 2018

With the Pro "sounding better" has anyone gone back to adjust the 808 level in its utility settings. Previously had mine on -6db.

Chino 4:10 PM - 5 March, 2018

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With the Pro "sounding better" has anyone gone back to adjust the 808 level in its utility settings. Previously had mine on -6db.

Originally, I had my DJ-808's master attenuation set to -6db. I now have it set to -3db. I am able to get more output in the headphones using the -3db setting.

DJ Marv the Maverick 6:24 PM - 5 March, 2018

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With the Pro "sounding better" has anyone gone back to adjust the 808 level in its utility settings. Previously had mine on -6db.

Originally, I had my DJ-808's master attenuation set to -6db. I now have it set to -3db. I am able to get more output in the headphones using the -3db setting.

Seen. On my own PA (EV EKX) i can play at 0 db but at the bar its just too hot. Will give 3db a shot this weekend.

djcrap 7:27 PM - 5 March, 2018

Any body seen than new tr8 s. Wooow thing is beastly promising.
You can import your own samples into it I wonder how that works?

Chino 9:29 PM - 5 March, 2018

^^^ I just received the email from Roland. You are right- It's a BEAST!! The link is below…

Watch www.youtube.com

Chino 9:30 PM - 5 March, 2018

I've wanted a new drum machine with sample playback capabilities from Roland for a LOOOOOONG time. Looks like this may be it.

Coherence 11:30 PM - 5 March, 2018

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I've wanted a new drum machine with sample playback capabilities from Roland for a LOOOOOONG time. Looks like this may be it.

Agree!! That thing is what the TR-8 should have been - happy to see them release it. Not sure if I can justify yet another drum machine/sampler, but it sure does look nice.

onthe1 9:59 AM - 6 March, 2018

Wow, it looks like it's got everything people were asking for: recordable parameter changes, sample playback, more outs in hardware and through an MX-1, improved pattern storage and recording, colorful looks which will improve performance, (it's easy to see which fader is for which instrument) and everything stored on an SD card.

Available in 3 days!

DJ Bully 10:11 AM - 6 March, 2018

Wow, I was considering getting a Tr-8. The TR-8S has arrived just in time!

&Midge 9:36 PM - 6 March, 2018

DJ B0B said he would like to be friends with TR-8S.....

djhoratio 12:05 PM - 8 March, 2018

I was saving up for the DJ-808 the last couple of months, and they put the price up in the UK yesterday as i went to buy it...

Do I save more now or look for something else now that it went up buy 23% in ££ ?

So Fresh 12:43 PM - 8 March, 2018

Really that crazy

So Fresh 12:48 PM - 8 March, 2018

It’s on for 1048 £’s @ gear4music what were you expecting to pay?

djhoratio 1:28 PM - 8 March, 2018

For ages now (around 6 months) it has been listed as £850 on a site 'PMT', but they changed the pricing either yesterday or sometime this week. That was a great 'deal' (wasn't listed as a price drop or promotion) and it really sucks I couldn't take advantage of it when it was on. Oh well, just have to look for alternatives ay, something from Denon or Pioneer perhaps?

DJ Marv the Maverick 1:57 PM - 8 March, 2018

Email retailers you might be able to get it for £9xx.

Bopdj is good for deals. Got mine from them.

DJ Bully 8:17 AM - 9 March, 2018

Got mine for £999 must be some deals around.....

So Fresh 4:37 PM - 9 March, 2018

I set up a deck for the first time in ages on the 808 and was cutting between the platters and deck :(

The platters are amazing no ?'s but the feel of a motor really got me reminiscing for sure and my cuts felt more organic instantly.

The bar I have been playing at has nexus setup so I take the 808, I tried HID mode with the nexus but just did not like the cdj's and missed the performance pads. The 808 is 100% a happy medium but that instant flow I got from the dvs set up has got me thinking about an S9 or 72

In the studio, the 808 is a great sketchpad/instrument especially with Ableton link

So Fresh 4:42 PM - 9 March, 2018

I did notice that having a deck set up brought back some muscle memory which improved my cuts on the platters. I think you can get a bit heavy handed on the platters but if use the same pressure you would on vinyl it really helps but its difficult without the torque of the motor

setting the platters to long on the spin back to me is closer to a 12"

So Fresh 5:17 PM - 9 March, 2018

also there is a sound difference between the DVS and internal the mode has anyone else noticed that?

Coherence 1:20 AM - 14 March, 2018

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also there is a sound difference between the DVS and internal the mode has anyone else noticed that?

There _shouldn't_ be (not saying it doesn't sound different, but it SHOULD sound the same) considering DVS is only using the time code tone to track position/speed and Serato and whatever sound card (the DJ-808 in this case) is producing the output. It should be identical to any other track played via the 808 itself. I use a pair of Denon SC2900's with DVS on my 808 and I can't say I've noticed any difference at all.

If you are using a traditional turntable, I could only suggest you check the RCAs, ground, and headshell mount on the tonearm to ensure the tracking signal is clean. If you aren't experiencing any dropouts or skipping during playback, then perhaps double check the software gains (or the trims on the 808) to ensure they are level with the internal playback.

So Fresh 2:53 PM - 14 March, 2018

I'll give that ago tonight thank you

Its not a big difference so might just be in my head:)

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also there is a sound difference between the DVS and internal the mode has anyone else noticed that?

There _shouldn't_ be (not saying it doesn't sound different, but it SHOULD sound the same) considering DVS is only using the time code tone to track position/speed and Serato and whatever sound card (the DJ-808 in this case) is producing the output. It should be identical to any other track played via the 808 itself. I use a pair of Denon SC2900's with DVS on my 808 and I can't say I've noticed any difference at all.

If you are using a traditional turntable, I could only suggest you check the RCAs, ground, and headshell mount on the tonearm to ensure the tracking signal is clean. If you aren't experiencing any dropouts or skipping during playback, then perhaps double check the software gains (or the trims on the 808) to ensure they are level with the internal playback.

Chino 11:55 PM - 23 April, 2018

If anyone needs a case for their DJ-808... Magma has released a new light weight hard case. The link is below:

www.idjnow.com

Chino 2:26 PM - 4 July, 2018

Is Anyone using the DJ-808 with the Roland MX-1?

I'm in the process of upgrading my studio gear. I'm looking to replace my audio interface with the Roland MX-1. I need to run my DJ-808, a Roland Handsonic HPD-20, Boss RC-505 & a Korg Kaossilator Pro into the MX-1. My plan is to control Studio One with the MX-1 as well.

I know the MX-1 works well with Ableton but does it play nicely with other DAWs too? My goal is to streamline my setup & workflow so that I spend more time remixing/making music instead of setting everything up.

Coherence 7:52 PM - 4 July, 2018

I haven't tried the 808 + MX-1; the MIDI out obviously works to send clock but I'll try it out via the Aira link and report back.

As for other DAW support, works great with FL Studio, haven't tried others. My big takeaways from the MX-1 is a 22i/22o sound card and very decent effects / filters for only $499. Can't really beat that. I love mine. =)

Coherence 3:24 AM - 13 July, 2018

Works like a champ. Just plug in the USB to the DJ-808, set MX-1 to 'PC' and you've got clock out without issue.

Chino 7:28 PM - 13 July, 2018

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Works like a champ. Just plug in the USB to the DJ-808, set MX-1 to 'PC' and you've got clock out without issue.

GREAT! Thanks for checking on that for me!!

In my quest to streamline my home studio in order to be more productive... I sold the MPK249 & I'm selling the Alesis MasterControl audio interface/DAW controller.

I'm now using the RC-505 as an audio interface & live looper into Studio One. I also run my DJ-808 in along with a Roland HandSonic HPD-20 hooked up to a Korg KP3+. This setup is remix heaven. This week, I'm adding a Faderport to control Studio One & I may also add a TR-8s into the setup. I've had my sights on a TR-8s for a while now!

Coherence 7:40 AM - 14 July, 2018

Fantastic - that TR-8s is exactly what I'd always hoped the TR-8 could be. (nice job, Roland!) That'll be an excellent setup. The MX-1 is a fantastic I/O as well and might make more sense to bring everything into it. (plus again, those effects are kind of awesome - being able to map their trigger sequence on the step sequencer is fantastic for fast workflow)

DJ Marv the Maverick 3:14 PM - 28 August, 2018

Sent in the DJ 808 for a repair under warranty.

The Right side cue/play button seems to have taken a beating. It will be my most used button on the unit. It still works if you press at an angle (upper left angle does not work)

Approx 1 year into ownership (2 to 3 gigs per week)

The Roland service dept send email updates on the progress of repairs, now at "waiting for parts ( could take up to 6-8 weeks)"

Chino 3:26 PM - 28 August, 2018

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Sent in the DJ 808 for a repair under warranty.

The Right side cue/play button seems to have taken a beating. It will be my most used button on the unit. It still works if you press at an angle (upper left angle does not work)

Approx 1 year into ownership (2 to 3 gigs per week)

The Roland service dept send email updates on the progress of repairs, now at "waiting for parts ( could take up to 6-8 weeks)"

My left PLAY/PAUSE button has become loose- possibly unseated. It still works but I def need to send the controller in for repair. My DJ-808 is primarily used in my lab(studio) now but I really don't want to be without my controller for 6-8 weeks while it's being fixed. I may just attempt to take it apart & fix it myself.

DJ Marv the Maverick 3:30 PM - 28 August, 2018

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Sent in the DJ 808 for a repair under warranty.

The Right side cue/play button seems to have taken a beating. It will be my most used button on the unit. It still works if you press at an angle (upper left angle does not work)

Approx 1 year into ownership (2 to 3 gigs per week)

The Roland service dept send email updates on the progress of repairs, now at "waiting for parts ( could take up to 6-8 weeks)"

My left PLAY/PAUSE button has become loose- possibly unseated. It still works but I def need to send the controller in for repair. My DJ-808 is primarily used in my lab(studio) now but I really don't want to be without my controller for 6-8 weeks while it's being fixed. I may just attempt to take it apart & fix it myself.

Its the UK turnaround time. They may have more parts available at your end.

Did you get the extended warranty...here is 3 years warranty if you register the device.

If not registered it's standard 1 year. But I didn't wanna take a chance so sent it in before 1 year.

I've been gigging the MC6000 the last 2 Saturdays and my 6-8 week wait just started this week.

DJ Marv the Maverick 3:32 PM - 28 August, 2018

I wonder if the well reported 505 jog wheel bug has been fixed.

Looking at selling the 6000 for something portable with XLR and larger jogs

SR2 or 505

Chino 3:38 PM - 28 August, 2018

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Did you get the extended warranty...here is 3 years warranty if you register the device.

If not registered it's standard 1 year.

I bought the DJ-808 used & I'm not sure if the previous owner registered it. ; (

I was looking at upgrading my 6000 MKII to the Pioneer SX3 until I heard about the recall. I tried the SX3 at the DJ Expo. I really liked that controller.

DJ Nin 8:00 PM - 28 August, 2018

Ironically, I wanna ditch my SX2 for a DJ808.

Reading about some of these issues has me concerned though. Also it's more of a "want" rather than a "need" at this point.

Hoping Roland releases an 808 MK II in the next year or two. If so, I'm all in.

DJ Nin 8:02 PM - 28 August, 2018

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Did you get the extended warranty...here is 3 years warranty if you register the device.

If not registered it's standard 1 year.

I bought the DJ-808 used & I'm not sure if the previous owner registered it. ; (

I was looking at upgrading my 6000 MKII to the Pioneer SX3 until I heard about the recall. I tried the SX3 at the DJ Expo. I really liked that controller.

Anything in particular that stood out on the SX3? I'm not a fan of the jog wheels on the SX2 and the sound quality could be better. Other than that I like it, but those are 2 major flaws.

Chino 1:01 PM - 29 August, 2018

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Anything in particular that stood out on the SX3? I'm not a fan of the jog wheels on the SX2 and the sound quality could be better.

The jog wheels seemed to be improved. They felt tighter & more accurate than the SX2. Unfortunately,the overall sound quality is the same. The sound quality on the Denon MC 6000MKII & the Roland DJ-808 is much better than the SX2 & SX3!

JDforKing 2:36 PM - 29 August, 2018

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Anything in particular that stood out on the SX3? I'm not a fan of the jog wheels on the SX2 and the sound quality could be better.

The jog wheels seemed to be improved. They felt tighter & more accurate than the SX2. Unfortunately,the overall sound quality is the same. The sound quality on the Denon MC 6000MKII & the Roland DJ-808 is much better than the SX2 & SX3!

Do you think running the sx3 through an external mixer helps to improve the overall sound quality?

Chino 3:41 PM - 29 August, 2018

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Do you think running the sx3 through an external mixer helps to improve the overall sound quality?

Yes that would help. I just find it odd that Pioneer didn't think to improve on the SX3 sound quality.

SG SOUNDS 3:51 PM - 29 August, 2018

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Ironically, I wanna ditch my SX2 for a DJ808.

Reading about some of these issues has me concerned though. Also it's more of a "want" rather than a "need" at this point.

Hoping Roland releases an 808 MK II in the next year or two. If so, I'm all in.

Do it. I got rid of my sx2 and got the 808 when it first came out and couldn't be happier..never had no problems with my 808 and the sound quality will make you smile

JDforKing 8:22 PM - 29 August, 2018

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Anything in particular that stood out on the SX3? I'm not a fan of the jog wheels on the SX2 and the sound quality could be better.

The jog wheels seemed to be improved. They felt tighter & more accurate than the SX2. Unfortunately,the overall sound quality is the same. The sound quality on the Denon MC 6000MKII & the Roland DJ-808 is much better than the SX2 & SX3!

I'm torn between the SX3 and the denon mc7000. Many have suggested the denon mc6000mk2 since I'll be using it primarily for my mobile wedding type gigs.

DJ Marv the Maverick 11:37 PM - 29 August, 2018

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Anything in particular that stood out on the SX3? I'm not a fan of the jog wheels on the SX2 and the sound quality could be better.

The jog wheels seemed to be improved. They felt tighter & more accurate than the SX2. Unfortunately,the overall sound quality is the same. The sound quality on the Denon MC 6000MKII & the Roland DJ-808 is much better than the SX2 & SX3!

I'm torn between the SX3 and the denon mc7000. Many have suggested the denon mc6000mk2 since I'll be using it primarily for my mobile wedding type gigs.

+1 on the 6000mk2.

Esp as you mentioned using for weddings, it has 2 mics with independent controls

Plus you can always keep it as back up if you still go ahead with a bigger purchase later

Just got the SR2 today...first impression feels like a toy but it will do just fine, the 6000 must be twice the weight of the SR2.

I just needed a bigger jog wheel for my bar gig whilst the 808 is on its 8 week Roland holiday.

dj_soo 6:05 AM - 30 August, 2018

denon will sound better than the sx3 if that's a priority for you.

Aptidda 4:52 PM - 31 August, 2018

Denon is far better than Pioneer in every aspect.

938MyDJ 9:39 PM - 3 September, 2018

Except for popularity and sales...

mozovski 10:08 AM - 23 October, 2018

I have recently bought DJ-808 wonderful piece of hardware. Seamless integration with Serato DJ, killer sound, TR-S drum machine, MIDI out. It has become not only a staple for recording mixes but a centerpiece of my home studio.

However I was wondering is Roland planning to add support for 8 simultaneous sounds from TR-S? Now it has only 4. In Serato DJ you can have more but I am interested in using it as a standalone drum machine in productions. I see that DJ 505 has that function. Does anyone know will this happen in future update or is there a way to contact Roland support directly to maybe ask them about it?

Chino 7:28 PM - 23 October, 2018

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However I was wondering is Roland planning to add support for 8 simultaneous sounds from TR-S?

It may be a hardware limitation due to the four volume faders to control the four sounds at once. I'd like to see a DJ-808 MKII with an updated TR-S. The ability to store sounds in four additional banks would be nice too. I'd also like to have 2 mics & dual USB ports for DJ change overs.

These improvements would help make the DJ-808 MKII more mobile DJ friendly and encourage live remix experimentation. The more DJs that can get their hands on a DJ-808/MKII then the more likely live remixing will become even more popular. This will help generate additional revenue to further design cutting edge products.

Chino 7:33 PM - 23 October, 2018

Forgot to mention that having an updated Serato DJ Pro Sampler would also greatly improve the DJ-808 functionality. Imagine what could be done creatively with the ability to direct record live into the SDJ Pro sampler.

Basic sample editing functionality like delete, cut, copy, paste & normalize would be very useful too.

djcrap 2:30 AM - 24 October, 2018

Serato and ableton pitch to Roland to make hardware for serato sample. With features as follows
1. The hardware made can act as a bridge between ableton and serato dj pro in order for serato sample to be integrated with serato dj sampler, where by the bridge acts as an advanced sampler that gets sampled from ableton live is library.
2. The hardware can connect to the airra USB ports of the dj808 and 505, 202 as an instrument. That way it can what ever samples or sounds coming from ableton live as an instrument
3 the hardware have all the serato dj sampler controls like play buttons, stop, pause and sync buttons plus volume control controls,
4. It could have a sound card for ableton to use they could add some return and sends input and out puts.
5 basically add all the bridge features from scratch live but this time put the controls on the hardware

djcrap 2:40 AM - 24 October, 2018

It could also have midi in and mid out ports for mid clock or way to mid clock every thing between serato dj and ableton.

DJ Nin 10:13 PM - 12 November, 2018

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Ironically, I wanna ditch my SX2 for a DJ808.

Reading about some of these issues has me concerned though. Also it's more of a "want" rather than a "need" at this point.

Hoping Roland releases an 808 MK II in the next year or two. If so, I'm all in.

Do it. I got rid of my sx2 and got the 808 when it first came out and couldn't be happier..never had no problems with my 808 and the sound quality will make you smile

I pulled the trigger about 2 weeks ago. So far I'm diggin the DJ 808. Hands down the best jog wheels & sound on any controlled I've used.

Chino 10:26 PM - 12 November, 2018

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I pulled the trigger about 2 weeks ago. So far I'm diggin the DJ 808. Hands down the best jog wheels & sound on any controlled I've used.

Congrats on the DJ-808 purchase! I'm definitely a fan of this controller. I use it primarily in my studio for music production.

DJ Nin 4:02 PM - 21 November, 2018

I ended up returning my 808 unfortunately. Had an issue with the right jog wheel where the song marker would jump ahead when I was scratching and also the wheel wouldn’t respond to touch at times either to stop the song. Also started to experience the play button not working issue. Bummer because I did really like the unit.

Beach Boys don't cry 6:28 PM - 9 April, 2019

Can someone say me the distance between the upper feet and the lower feet (including the total lenght of back feet?
Let me explain better, I have to prepare a wood stand for dj800 and thanks to front pics find on the web I find out that my stand has to have a minimum of 58-60 cm in widht(X axis).

But I can't find any info about the lenght (Y axis). I just know the the controller has 42,7 cm (16,81 inches) and I am wondering which is the minimum lenght required for supporting the back feet. 30? 35? more?

Thanks a lot and sorry for my english :-)

NightJems 4:48 AM - 25 April, 2019

Well here are some measures, hope these helps

Total controller is

67cm x 44cm x 8cm - all this including buttons over front/back

The legs on the bottom are 55cm x 38cm

But bottom is hard plastic and can sit on smaller surface , for example I am using it at home on small table which is 47cm x 37cm - and it works fine.

Descry 9:10 PM - 30 April, 2019

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I have recently bought DJ-808 wonderful piece of hardware. Seamless integration with Serato DJ, killer sound, TR-S drum machine, MIDI out. It has become not only a staple for recording mixes but a centerpiece of my home studio.

However I was wondering is Roland planning to add support for 8 simultaneous sounds from TR-S? Now it has only 4. In Serato DJ you can have more but I am interested in using it as a standalone drum machine in productions. I see that DJ 505 has that function. Does anyone know will this happen in future update or is there a way to contact Roland support directly to maybe ask them about it?

The limitations of the DJ-808 only allow for 4 simultaneous drum voices. There are no plans to upgrade at this time.

chelsey 8:45 PM - 24 June, 2019

hello guys how to adjust the main volume on TR S (dj808) individually ?Thanks

Mr. Goodkat 10:34 PM - 24 June, 2019

master volume in the middle

chelsey 11:18 PM - 24 June, 2019

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master volume in the middle

Sure, but I mean individual volume just for the TR S

chelsey 11:20 PM - 24 June, 2019

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master volume in the middle

Sure, but I mean individual volume just for the TR S

after updated TR S volume is too low

DJ Val-BKNY11203 8:16 PM - 25 June, 2019

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master volume in the middle

Sure, but I mean individual volume just for the TR S

after updated TR S volume is too low

You need to adjust the attenuation on the controller. The middle fader controls the TRS volume.

DJ Vectrex 7:06 PM - 3 July, 2019

Hi folks !
Sorry to hijack the topic maybe, but I just had a quick test (not much time right now, unfortunately) of my brand new DJ-808 with Serato Pro... Works like a charm so far - the controller is ultra responsive, and the software handled heavy (bad) scratching with FX on both decks without any trouble !
Plus the TR-S is so much fun and really adds to the music you play, and the volume faders are really handy to add a bit of variation to a pattern. Now, I find the pad sensitivity for drum rolls is quite subtle, though, but I guess you can get good results once you know how to work it properly.
Well, I think it's going to take some time to tame the beast, but I guess I'll take a couple of long jam sessions soon !
Thanks Roland and Serato !

dj_soo 8:10 PM - 13 November, 2019

Heya, quick question to all you DJ 808 users.

Has anyone tried their 808 with DVS and a turntable yet? Any issues with scratching?

I've found issues with the 505 as well as the new 707M and just curious if this problem affects all their gear.

DJ Marv the Maverick 8:18 PM - 13 November, 2019

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Heya, quick question to all you DJ 808 users.

Has anyone tried their 808 with DVS and a turntable yet? Any issues with scratching?

I've found issues with the 505 as well as the new 707M and just curious if this problem affects all their gear.

No I haven’t. Maybe @Chino has

musiclee 8:26 PM - 13 November, 2019

Descry,

can you elaborate of the sound cards on the 808 vs 707m? differences
many here say the 808 is way better spec'd and sounds way better than 707m
is this true, if 808's sound superior, or is it user error, settings not correct on 707m ??

thanks in advance

SG SOUNDS 8:56 PM - 13 November, 2019

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Descry,

can you elaborate of the sound cards on the 808 vs 707m? differences
many here say the 808 is way better spec'd and sounds way better than 707m
is this true, if 808's sound superior, or is it user error, settings not correct on 707m ??

thanks in advance

The 808 is a 32bit 96khz soundcard, it's a better soundcard than the 707

musiclee 8:59 PM - 13 November, 2019

main differences in "sound quality" i notice from spec sheets:

sampling frequency for 707m = 48 kHz
sampling frequency for 808 = 96 kHz, 48 kHz, 44.1 kHz

i woulda gladly paid an extra $300 for better sound, platters with feedback, better lit buttons, etc.
i know , so why didn't i get 808? because 707m has a more "mobile" feature set :-)

musiclee 9:00 PM - 13 November, 2019

The 808 is a 32bit 96khz soundcard, it's a better soundcard than the 707

yes yes, 32 bit too!!!

SG SOUNDS 9:02 PM - 13 November, 2019

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The 808 is a 32bit 96khz soundcard, it's a better soundcard than the 707

yes yes, 32 bit too!!!

The best soundcard of all current controllers

musiclee 9:15 PM - 13 November, 2019

Riddimnblues,

you sayin' Roland went a little backwards with the 707m ? :-)

938MyDJ 12:00 AM - 14 November, 2019

707 is just a new release but as far as I know...

It's a lower model and priced a bit cheaper!

musiclee 4:45 AM - 14 November, 2019

Ye the 707m is better in some ways
And worse in other ways to the 808

SG SOUNDS 3:28 PM - 14 November, 2019

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Riddimnblues,

you sayin' Roland went a little backwards with the 707m ? :-)

No sir, the 707 is a excellent controller for the working mobile dj, the compact size, multiple features and sound quality is the best in its class currently..Perfect for weddings or bar gigs, Roland got alot of feedback from mobile djs on what they wanted in a compact controller and they nailed it..

577er 7:59 PM - 14 November, 2019

Nailed it? More like bunted it.
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musiclee 2:38 AM - 15 November, 2019

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Riddimnblues,

you sayin' Roland went a little backwards with the 707m ? :-)

Roland got alot of feedback from mobile djs on what they wanted in a compact controller and they nailed it..

They instead should have gotten a LITTLE feedback from ALOT of mobile DJ's!!

They didn't nail it, they put out a great product, not a great one
I can list tons of shortcomings, we can start with the wall wart.....

musiclee 2:42 AM - 15 November, 2019

577er, lol. I didnt even see your post. We think alike.
A PRO product cannot be pro with a brick. Im sorry.
Its ok to make controller just a tad bigger. Really. Its ok.
1 of my subwoofers weighs almost 20x this controller

SG SOUNDS 12:41 AM - 16 November, 2019

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Riddimnblues,

you sayin' Roland went a little backwards with the 707m ? :-)

Roland got alot of feedback from mobile djs on what they wanted in a compact controller and they nailed it..

They instead should have gotten a LITTLE feedback from ALOT of mobile DJ's!!

They didn't nail it, they put out a great product, not a great one
I can list tons of shortcomings, we can start with the wall wart.....

Your opinion bro, not gonna argue with you, there are many out there that do alot of wedding stuff that loves this controller.

musiclee 6:25 PM - 16 November, 2019

I Do LOtS of weddings

Riddimnblues. You 100% happy with it ?
Nothing you would change or add? :-)

SG SOUNDS 12:20 PM - 17 November, 2019

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I Do LOtS of weddings

Riddimnblues. You 100% happy with it ?
Nothing you would change or add? :-)

I dont own the 707, I have the dj808

Voetbalrobert 10:35 AM - 18 January, 2020

I have a question about the dj-808 compared vs the tr8s.

On the dj-808 it is possible to play samplers from serato by playing on the drum pads on the controller and integrate it in your current drum pad.
Is this feature also possible with the tr8s in combination with an other serato dj controller?

Descry 6:35 PM - 22 January, 2020

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I have a question about the dj-808 compared vs the tr8s.

On the dj-808 it is possible to play samplers from serato by playing on the drum pads on the controller and integrate it in your current drum pad.
Is this feature also possible with the tr8s in combination with an other serato dj controller?

yes, if you go into tr inst-rec mode, you can do this by hitting the sampler button and tapping the pad(s) you want

Chino 9:08 PM - 22 January, 2020

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yes, if you go into tr inst-rec mode, you can do this by hitting the sampler button and tapping the pad(s) you want

I would LOVE it if the DJ-808 could sample directly from Serato! Maybe a new firmware update feature coming soon?? Or better yet a DJ-808 MKII with LARGER low latency platters & an improved TR-S MKII !!! @Roland

Descry 9:09 PM - 22 January, 2020

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yes, if you go into tr inst-rec mode, you can do this by hitting the sampler button and tapping the pad(s) you want

I would LOVE it if the DJ-808 could sample directly from Serato! Maybe a new firmware update feature coming soon?? Or better yet a DJ-808 MKII with LARGER low latency platters & an improved TR-S MKII !!! @Roland

you can kind of already do this by utilizing rec in serato, assigning the recording to a sample box, then setting a cue point load point

Chino 9:55 PM - 22 January, 2020

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yes, if you go into tr inst-rec mode, you can do this by hitting the sampler button and tapping the pad(s) you want

I would LOVE it if the DJ-808 could sample directly from Serato! Maybe a new firmware update feature coming soon?? Or better yet a DJ-808 MKII with LARGER low latency platters & an improved TR-S MKII !!! @Roland

you can kind of already do this by utilizing rec in serato, assigning the recording to a sample box, then setting a cue point load point

Nice tip! Appreciate the workaround suggestion!

Chino 5:21 PM - 27 January, 2020

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