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ScratchLive + SL1 + new Mac OS Sierra

soulsides 10:41 PM - 23 September, 2016
Just wanted to let folks know that I just tested this out after installing the new Mac OS called Sierra (10.12).

NOTE: I had to dump the kext file and reinstall SL 2.5 using this workaround (serato.com) BUT after reinstall, I can confirm, I did get it to work.

I do not have a TTM 57SL and therefore, cannot test with that.
soulsides 10:42 PM - 23 September, 2016
To be clear: I got ScratchLive 2.5 to work with an original SL1 box on a laptop with OSX 10.12 (Sierra) installed. I don't have any other Serato hardware to test with so your mileage may very with any other hardware attempt.
bwizard 6:35 PM - 24 September, 2016
Very interested in if Scratch Live works with Sierra OSX. I will try this workaround later but with a SL4 and see if it works for me El Cap' update was depressing so I hope this works. I don't have a fancy Rane mixer so I will tell you if that works as well.
soulsides 11:55 PM - 26 September, 2016
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Very interested in if Scratch Live works with Sierra OSX. I will try this workaround later but with a SL4 and see if it works for me El Cap' update was depressing so I hope this works. I don't have a fancy Rane mixer so I will tell you if that works as well.


My guess is that if you can't get it to run initially, you'll need to do the reinstall workaround. You definitely cannot just (re)install ScratchLive 2.5 in Sierra without first following the workaround directions. Without that, you'll get the same error that El Capitan users have found.

I have seen some people have success getting ScratchLive to run by first running Serato DJ and plugging your SL4 in while that's up and THEN trying to see if ScratchLive works afterwards.
nrgspin1 3:35 AM - 18 October, 2016
So i have we officially confirmed Scratch Live 2.5 runs well on Sierra?


RANE 62
djdonandre 1:58 AM - 17 November, 2016
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To be clear: I got ScratchLive 2.5 to work with an original SL1 box on a laptop with OSX 10.12 (Sierra) installed. I don't have any other Serato hardware to test with so your mileage may very with any other hardware attempt.


I got the same set up, with SL1 and Sierra, but i can't install ScratchLive 2.5 on Sierra. How you did it ?
DJ G-Rebel 8:47 AM - 17 November, 2016
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To be clear: I got ScratchLive 2.5 to work with an original SL1 box on a laptop with OSX 10.12 (Sierra) installed. I don't have any other Serato hardware to test with so your mileage may very with any other hardware attempt.


I got the same set up, with SL1 and Sierra, but i can't install ScratchLive 2.5 on Sierra. How you did it ?


It worked with this workaround that i got from edenterrorist.


This Fix/Workaround might work for you guys...

After I deleted SeratoScratchDriver.kext and got my 57SL working with Scratch Live on El Capitan I then decided to install all the other drivers that come with the package and somehow screwed my whole workaround up and for some reason I found I couldn't fresh reinstall Scratch Live so...

1.) Download Scratch Live again.
2.) Restart your Mac holding down Command-R until the Apple logo appears.
3.) From the Utilities menu, select Terminal.
4.) In the Terminal window, type this:

csrutil disable

5.) Press Enter/Return. This turns off the part of SIP that will let you run a fresh Scratch Live install again.
6.) Type reboot and press Enter/Return to restart your Mac.
7.) After the restart you can install Scratch Live.

NOW IMPORTANT

8.) Restart again once you install holding down Command-R until the Apple logo appears.
9.) From the Utilities menu, select Terminal.
10.) In the Terminal window, type this:

csrutil enable

11.) Press Enter/Return. This turns back on the part of SIP you disabled temporarily.

11a.) I can't remember if I then deleted SeratoScratchDriver.kext again from Macintosh HD > System > Library > Extensions or just moved on to step 12.

12.) Turn on your 57SL and plug in the USB.
13.) Launch Scratch Live and hopefully you're back in action like I was, I'll update if this method stops working at some point.

Cheers Tim on a...

MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Early 2015)
2.7 GHz Intel Core i5
8 GB 1867 MHz DDR3
Running OSX El Capitan - Version 10.11.1
tariq_switch 4:31 PM - 3 January, 2017
I have the new MacBook Pro 2016 and having no issues using SSL with a SL1 Box which came straight on to the machine from my time machine backup.
Ke_Djs 12:07 AM - 4 January, 2017
Hey Just tried this today with the fix by @edenterrorist.

I have a Rane 57SL and can confirm successfully running Scratch Live 2.5.
My computer configuration is:

MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Late 2013)
2 GHz Intel Core i7
8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3
Running macOS Sierra - Version 10.12.2
DJMark 2:21 AM - 4 January, 2017
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I have the new MacBook Pro 2016 and having no issues using SSL with a SL1 Box which came straight on to the machine from my time machine backup.


Which exact MacBook Pro configuration do you have?
tariq_switch 1:38 PM - 4 January, 2017
DJMark i have a;

MacBook Pro (13-inch, 2016, Four Thunderbolt 3 Ports) w/ Touchbar
16GB Ram
3.1 GHz Intel Core i5
1TB SSD

Running Mac OS Sierra 10.12.2
DJMark 9:21 PM - 4 January, 2017
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DJMark i have a;

MacBook Pro (13-inch, 2016, Four Thunderbolt 3 Ports) w/ Touchbar
16GB Ram
3.1 GHz Intel Core i5
1TB SSD

Running Mac OS Sierra 10.12.2


Cool, good to know. It will be interesting to hear how other devices besides the SL-1 work with Scratch Live on the new MBP hardware.
Crackpipe 6:25 PM - 6 January, 2017
I'm waiting to hear how SSL 2.5 w/ SL3 hardware works with Sierra.
gk1 7:16 PM - 8 January, 2017
i need help with this. got rane tom 57 mark 1, using mac book running serria, try download scratch live got 2.4.3 to run, but have NOT plugged in ttm57 mixer yet, what is the workaround to get this to work, thanks anyone
bonez 5:54 PM - 13 January, 2017
working...perfect
with sl
Crackpipe 8:35 PM - 13 January, 2017
which SL?

SL1
SL2
SL3
SL4
DJMark 1:07 AM - 15 January, 2017
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which SL?

SL1
SL2
SL3
SL4


TTM57SL
61
62
68
hugo81 4:12 AM - 21 January, 2017
I have the same set up, with SL1 and Sierra, and was able to install ScratchLive 2.5 with the the fix by @edenterrorist but now when I open ScratchLive it crashes after I open it (kicks me right out). Has anyone had that issue and figured out a solution? Thanks
DJ Herbert Holler 4:22 PM - 21 January, 2017
Sorry to ask a question that may have been answered, but I'd like to know if SSL 2.5 will work on Sierra with SL4 hardware. I haven't grown accustomed to Serato DJ yet, and had issues with EL Capitain, so I've been on Mavericks OS for a minute. Thank you for your time and attention, guys.
DJ Ch@vez 12:40 AM - 21 February, 2017
Just updated to Sierra and after doing the workaround provided by edenterrorist was able to get scratch live working. I have a Mac and Rane 57. Thank you everyone for the help!
djmessie 12:23 AM - 4 March, 2017
Does anyone have a working Mac OS Sierra with Serato Scratch Live working while using a Cane TTM57SL Mixer?
djmessie 12:25 AM - 4 March, 2017
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Hey Just tried this today with the fix by @edenterrorist.

I have a Rane 57SL and can confirm successfully running Scratch Live 2.5.
My computer configuration is:

MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Late 2013)
2 GHz Intel Core i7
8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3
Running macOS Sierra - Version 10.12.2



where is the fix. I would like to try it
Brian90X 2:00 AM - 14 April, 2017
Just installed Mac OS Sierra from Yosemite on a Mid 2015 MacBook Pro. SL1 with SSL 2.5 worked without the workaround in the short test. More to follow. Worked the same way on El Cap, but Sierra looks more promising after finding this thread.
Culprit 8:07 PM - 14 April, 2017
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Just installed Mac OS Sierra from Yosemite on a Mid 2015 MacBook Pro. SL1 with SSL 2.5 worked without the workaround in the short test. More to follow. Worked the same way on El Cap, but Sierra looks more promising after finding this thread.


You need to restart your computer and try again. Once you restart it shouldn't work anymore. You need to remove rootless protection to get it working. You can google the fix it's simple to implement I've done many osx machines successfully
deejayfatcat 9:37 PM - 14 April, 2017
Is it odd that my sl1 and ssl work fine on a mid '12 MBP Sierra with no fix or changes?
Culprit 12:24 AM - 15 April, 2017
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Is it odd that my sl1 and ssl work fine on a mid '12 MBP Sierra with no fix or changes?


Very
Alcane 11:37 AM - 19 April, 2017
I've recently updated from Mavericks to Sierra and keen to keep using SL over SDJ.

The 'fix' process isn't clear from this thread, can anyone please elaborate what I should be doing to ensure SL works fine?

I'm running a mid-2014 Macbook Pro 15" with a SL3 box.

Any advice is much appreciated.
Culprit 4:38 PM - 19 April, 2017
The instructions are pretty clear at the top. Remove rootless protection. It's been covered over and over again. Hit that Google search.
DJ Benny B NYC 11:21 PM - 27 April, 2017
Hi,

Thanks to Soulsides and Edenterrorist for this great fix. I just tried it with a new Mac that is running Mac OS Sierra 10.12.4. Scratch Live 2.5 worked great with my SL1, but not with my Rane TTM 57SL. And I followed the instructions to the letter.

Any ideas or advice?
K Double 1:04 AM - 5 May, 2017
Another SL1 box with Scratch Live working. Thanks to Soulsides and Edenterrorist for sharing!
bonez 8:49 PM - 18 May, 2017
sl1 but had to do some tweeks and stuff to get it work fully
DJ Benny B NYC 5:30 PM - 30 May, 2017
Just did 2 weddings with the fix on an SL1. Let me know if anyone has a fix for the 57 with current Sierra. Thanks.
Dj JMar 2:46 AM - 5 June, 2017
Disable rootfile. type csrutil disable in utilities terminal. Scratch live works fine in Searra 10.12.5. Search disable root file
Dj JMar 2:47 AM - 5 June, 2017
Disable rootfile. type csrutil disable in utilities terminal. Scratch live works fine in Sierra 10.12.5. Search disable root file
Dj JMar 2:48 AM - 5 June, 2017
Disable rootfile. type csrutil disable in utilities terminal. Scratch live works fine with ttm57 in Searra 10.12.5. Search disable root file
DJ Damione 4:17 PM - 18 June, 2017
Hi,

I did the work around and now my left deck stops playing after about 10 to 12 minutes?

Any suggestions?
Culprit 6:46 PM - 18 June, 2017
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Hi,

I did the work around and now my left deck stops playing after about 10 to 12 minutes?

Any suggestions?


Not sure, shouldn't affect the decks. Reinstall SSL
DJ Damione 8:22 PM - 20 June, 2017
My left deck just stops after some time with a SL4 box as well as a TTM57SL. I will try a reinstall and see what happens.
D710 8:04 PM - 30 June, 2017
I have a 2010 MacBook Pro with OS X 10.8.5 and I want to upgrade to Sierra but I'm afraid my Scratch Live 2.5 may not work properly. I am running the Rane 62 mixer. Any suggestions?
Culprit 9:02 PM - 30 June, 2017
yeah, dont upgrade
D710 9:04 PM - 30 June, 2017
Culprit can u elaborate?
Coldfuture 9:53 PM - 30 June, 2017
I just want to report here that I have SL 2.5 running on a 2013 macbook pro, with a Rane SL-1 connected and zero issues.

The key here, for me, anyway, was to download the legacy java library from Apple.

support.apple.com

This not only enabled all the old Adobe CS5 suite I have running, but it seemed to avoid any of those kext file workarounds I read here. The only weird thing it did, was the SL installer said it failed on one run, but it still launched after I plugged in the SL-1.

I can't really explain the technology here, but its clear that the java runtime code avoids crashing old software in Sierra.
Culprit 4:17 AM - 1 July, 2017
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Culprit can u elaborate?


Elaborate what?
pdidy 8:53 AM - 1 July, 2017
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I have a 2010 MacBook Pro with OS X 10.8.5 and I want to upgrade to Sierra but I'm afraid my Scratch Live 2.5 may not work properly. I am running the Rane 62 mixer. Any suggestions?

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yeah, dont upgrade

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Culprit can u elaborate?

Culprit is correct, dont update to Sierra if you want you system to continue working as it is today. Scratch Live 2.5 is not supported by sierra. workarounds do exist but i dont recommend them.
D710 10:13 AM - 1 July, 2017
Ok thanks
C-Duce 12:45 PM - 8 July, 2017
Just had a new SSD hard drive installed into my MacBook Pro 10', running lightning fast now. Couldn't go back to Mavericks so runnin' latest Sierra. Scratch Live seems to work fine with my TTM-57SL. One thing I've noticed is randomly there's a short tiny skip in the audio. Any one else experiencing this?? Would hate to upgrade to a new mixer for this small problem, because everything else works great. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated!
pdidy 7:02 PM - 8 July, 2017
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Just had a new SSD hard drive installed into my MacBook Pro 10', running lightning fast now. Couldn't go back to Mavericks so runnin' latest Sierra. Scratch Live seems to work fine with my TTM-57SL.

Until you crash at the worst time possible in the middle of a big event. When that day comes don't forget YOU are the only one to blame :) (not serato, rane or mac)
Alcane 1:17 PM - 11 July, 2017
I upgraded my OSX from Mavericks to Sierra about 3 months ago. Scratch Live still works flawlessly after the update. I haven't updated the drivers for the Rane box, but will probably need to do soon as I'm lacking the soundcard functionality outside of normal Serato use.
I still prefer to use Scratch Live over Serato DJ as I prefer the colours of the former's UI.

My current setup is:

SL3 box
15" Macbook Pro Retina 2014
litothekid 4:29 PM - 14 July, 2017
I've just got my new macbook pro 13" (no usb ports) running Sierra 10.12.5.
I own a SL1 box.
I've installed Scratch Live 2.5 with the workaround and it works in Analyzing files and setting cue points, when I connect the SL1 box trough an adapter thunderbolt/usb (dodocool) the track just plays distorted and audio comes and goes repeatedly, both in internal and relative mode.

Anybody has overcome this yet?

Please Help!
djwhatNYC 7:31 PM - 7 August, 2017
I have a question, so I recently updated my iOS to Sierra and Scratch Live worked with my TTM 57 and a SL2 box. Since i updated my ios I was getting a window telling me to update the Javascript and so i did not knowing exactly what it was for and now Scratch Live does not work. Has anyone experienced this and how do I fix this issue???
Culprit 8:04 PM - 7 August, 2017
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I have a question, so I recently updated my iOS to Sierra and Scratch Live worked with my TTM 57 and a SL2 box. Since i updated my ios I was getting a window telling me to update the Javascript and so i did not knowing exactly what it was for and now Scratch Live does not work. Has anyone experienced this and how do I fix this issue???



Question, did you even read through this thread?
Culprit 8:06 PM - 7 August, 2017
Going to speak for alot of us veterans here on the Serato forums and say

Guys please, stop being lazy. Were not going to post the same answers over and over and over again because your too lazy to ready through the threads to obtain said information thats been relayed over and over again.
djsleeper.com 6:14 AM - 26 August, 2017
Hey fam, I just ran SL 2.5 through a SL1 box!

On Sierra! It feels magical. I almost forgot how to plug in a SL box...

I'm on OSX Sierra 10.12.6
Serato DJ 1.9.6

Didn't have to do any of the workarounds... praying it stays that way
Manuel23 12:59 AM - 5 September, 2017
Please help! My serato scratch live 2.5.0 won't get connected to hardware. I have a mac running mac0S sierra 10.12.6 with range ttm 57sl. Please help. What can I do to get it back running.
Culprit 2:51 AM - 5 September, 2017
For starters you can read the thread
monchi 4:50 AM - 5 September, 2017
Do not pass 10.9.5 , do not collect $200 . ;)
d:raf 5:42 PM - 5 September, 2017
I recently got tired of getting errors from certain web pages due to them not supporting my OS anymore, so I reluctantly switched from Mtn. Lion to Sierra. However, I did it the "wrong" way (i.e. upgrading on top of the current OS instead of wiping everything and doing a clean install) and Scratchlive 2.5 (which I had installed previously) still appears to work fine with my SL1.

I was testing it for a gig that I thought I was going to need it for, but the turntables they had at the venue had to be abandoned due to a TERRIBLE ground hum that nobody could eliminate (a botched repair job is suspected) so we ended up using SDJ on my DDJ-SX that I brought as backup anyway. No issues :).
Frank aka Cue 4:35 PM - 5 October, 2017
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I've just got my new macbook pro 13" (no usb ports) running Sierra 10.12.5.
I own a SL1 box.
I've installed Scratch Live 2.5 with the workaround and it works in Analyzing files and setting cue points, when I connect the SL1 box trough an adapter thunderbolt/usb (dodocool) the track just plays distorted and audio comes and goes repeatedly, both in internal and relative mode.

Anybody has overcome this yet?

Please Help!


I got the very same problem with the same set up only with Sierra 10.12.6. Does anyone know how to solve this? :)
EchoSlim 2:55 AM - 8 October, 2017
Anyone experiencing sporadic audio skipping during their sets?
Crackpipe 11:43 PM - 11 October, 2017
Quote:
Quote:
I've just got my new macbook pro 13" (no usb ports) running Sierra 10.12.5.
I own a SL1 box.
I've installed Scratch Live 2.5 with the workaround and it works in Analyzing files and setting cue points, when I connect the SL1 box trough an adapter thunderbolt/usb (dodocool) the track just plays distorted and audio comes and goes repeatedly, both in internal and relative mode.

Anybody has overcome this yet?

Please Help!


I got the very same problem with the same set up only with Sierra 10.12.6. Does anyone know how to solve this? :)


There is some confusion and when people state they have it working they need to clarify:

Macbook year: 2012-2015 with USB 3.0 ports or 2016+ with USB type C ports
SL hardware: SL1, TTM57, SL2, SL3, etc etc
SSL 2.5 or SDJ (whatever version they are on...I don't have SDJ).

I'm assuming since this is a Sierra thread, the OS will be Sierra or High Sierra.
Culprit 12:25 AM - 12 October, 2017
I can't say for certain that it works on High Sierra but removing sips/rootless protection has been working. I have done it on over 25 laptops now, all happy satisfied friends and clients.
DJ_Austin 7:47 AM - 2 November, 2017
Friends, prompt me how to act. I put Sierra on a separate external hard disk, Serato Scratch Live 2.5 set. Set with an error in the end, but ... The program is started and works. During connection of map of SL1 - it's detected and works. Tested in the flow of hour, as though all be well.
Configuration of macbook mid 2012 Ram 16 gb, i5, ssd 256
Here I think to put or no now instead of Yosemite.
Those, who works with Sl1 in Siera write as works stably? and how many time did you work on such configuration?
DJ_Austin 7:50 AM - 2 November, 2017
Sierra 10.12.6

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Friends, prompt me how to act. I put Sierra on a separate external hard disk, Serato Scratch Live 2.5 set. Set with an error in the end, but ... The program is started and works. During connection of map of SL1 - it's detected and works. Tested in the flow of hour, as though all be well.
Configuration of macbook mid 2012 Ram 16 gb, i5, ssd 256
Here I think to put or no now instead of Yosemite.
Those, who works with Sl1 in Siera write as works stably? and how many time did you work on such configuration?
DJ_Austin 12:21 PM - 20 November, 2017
Used about 10-12 hours on Sierra 10.12.6 - All GOOD. No frezzes and other.