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Samuel S 11:25 PM - 25 July, 2016
Hey peeps,

Just wanted to post about a cool new product we're helping launch by a fellow NZ company - SoundSwitch!

This lets you set lighting cues and design a full lighting show to go with your music really easily which will then play back as you play audio files in Serato DJ.

More info and video: serato.com

sam.
The Return of Dj Sparky 12:09 AM - 26 July, 2016
It appears to use the same method mix emergency uses to sync the video so will it work with scratch live as well?
citi 12:41 AM - 26 July, 2016
Look, I like the idea behind it. Question, what happens when you haven't programmed a song? Do the lights just turn off? Also, is it also a stand alone app? Can I use it without serato.

At $500 the cost is a little high, especially if I'm hardware locked.
citi 12:53 AM - 26 July, 2016
Just went to their site:

"For best results we suggest using RGB LED fixtures."

So rgb white amber uv like I have will be crippled?

"At this point, SoundSwitch is only compatible with Serato DJ. If you would like SoundSwitch to work with your DJ software there is no harm in requesting SoundSwitch compatibility as a future feature with your DJ software provider. Alternatively, Serato is a great platform and it may be worth considering checking it out to see if a switch could work for you?"

Note: The following interfaces are NOT supported by SoundSwitch

Denon DJ DS1

Rane SL2

Rane SL3

Rane SL4
DJ Ravien 1:27 AM - 26 July, 2016
serato.com

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At $500 the cost is a little high, especially if I'm hardware locked.




I totally agree, Plus according to their website there is no return policy unless the product is damaged.
SoundSwitch Team 5:32 AM - 26 July, 2016
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serato.com

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At $500 the cost is a little high, especially if I'm hardware locked.




I totally agree, Plus according to their website there is no return policy unless the product is damaged.


Hey DJ Ravien,

We would be happy to discuss any issue you might have with the product and if these couldnt be fixed we'd be happy to discuss a refund for you. Support and customers service is huge for us so don't worry we wont run away with your money.
SoundSwitch Team 5:39 AM - 26 July, 2016
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Just went to their site:

"For best results we suggest using RGB LED fixtures."

So rgb white amber uv like I have will be crippled?

"At this point, SoundSwitch is only compatible with Serato DJ. If you would like SoundSwitch to work with your DJ software there is no harm in requesting SoundSwitch compatibility as a future feature with your DJ software provider. Alternatively, Serato is a great platform and it may be worth considering checking it out to see if a switch could work for you?"

Note: The following interfaces are NOT supported by SoundSwitch

Denon DJ DS1

Rane SL2

Rane SL3

Rane SL4


Hey Citi,

RGB/W/A/UV will be supported very soon, however, these lights will still work and they will still display RGB colors in the mean time.

The reason the interfaces are not supported is because SoundSwitch uses the cross and channel faders to mix the lighting.

Having said that, in future we would like to add the ability to MIDI map faders for mixers that have this functionality.

To address the point about other software, we are a separate company from Serato, however we've chosen to work with the best to start with.
SoundSwitch Team 5:45 AM - 26 July, 2016
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Look, I like the idea behind it. Question, what happens when you haven't programmed a song? Do the lights just turn off? Also, is it also a stand alone app? Can I use it without serato.

At $500 the cost is a little high, especially if I'm hardware locked.


SoundSwitch has a featured called Autoloops, check out the article below for more details.

soundswitch.zendesk.com
Phsyraxion 6:02 AM - 26 July, 2016
Is this aimed at mainly fixed lighting fixtures, not moving head type fixtures?

I'm a mobile DJ who has a programmed truss of fixtures consisting of scanners, lasers, matrix LED lights, pattern strobes... typical eye candy stuff. I have a pretty standard lighting board which I have spend close to 6 months programming scenes and chases to suit a variety of music.

I manually switch the required scenes and chases based on the type of music but have everything sequenced in such a way its nicely triggered from audio input from a filtered bass signal.

I've been looking at various ways to actually time all the lighting movements and effects to songs instead of a programmed random way, this looked like the winner, just wondered if it was at all possible to create "scenes" and lock a scene to beat grids to make heads sweep and strobes pulse to the correct timing etc. That will be worth the cost for me even if it only kicked in for certain songs and still allowed my lighting board to control the lighting when not engaged.
SoundSwitch Team 7:28 AM - 26 July, 2016
Hi Phsyraxion,

You have explained SoundSwitch almost exactly.

Here are two features you might be interested in.

Position Feature for Moving Heads:

support.soundswitch.com

Autoloops - The Backup System:

support.soundswitch.com
papagp 8:55 AM - 26 July, 2016
Why we can't download the software to we have a closer look but must purchased before?
SoundSwitch Team 9:00 AM - 26 July, 2016
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Why we can't download the software to we have a closer look but must purchased before?


Hi Papagp,

We will be releasing the full version for everyone to try on August 12th. Currently those who pre order are able to download and use the software before the hardware ships on the date mentioned.
DJ Ravien 9:19 AM - 26 July, 2016
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Why we can't download the software to we have a closer look but must purchased before?


Hi Papagp,

We will be releasing the full version for everyone to try on August 12th. Currently those who pre order are able to download and use the software before the hardware ships on the date mentioned.


This is what I like to hear.

My concern wasn't necessarily with refunds regarding damaged or broken hardware as your site clearly states it will refund in those cases but more so with it not fitting my needs, or being what I expect.

I do know you don't currently support lasers. Do you plan to support these in the future? Also, wondering if the ADJ Revo 4 is supported?
SoundSwitch Team 9:36 AM - 26 July, 2016
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Why we can't download the software to we have a closer look but must purchased before?


Hi Papagp,

We will be releasing the full version for everyone to try on August 12th. Currently those who pre order are able to download and use the software before the hardware ships on the date mentioned.


This is what I like to hear.

My concern wasn't necessarily with refunds regarding damaged or broken hardware as your site clearly states it will refund in those cases but more so with it not fitting my needs, or being what I expect.

I do know you don't currently support lasers. Do you plan to support these in the future? Also, wondering if the ADJ Revo 4 is supported?


We'd be gutted if SoundSwitch didnt work for you and would be happy to provide a refund if that was the case. But we are sure it wont be.

Currently SoundSwitch doesn't support lasers, however we will do so in future.

One cool thing about SoundSwitch is that our fixture library is cloud based.

This means that if you requested a fixture be supported by SoundSwitch, we can input the fixture at our end and it will automatically update in your fixture library.

And not only will it update your library, but also every users library.

Right now that fixture isnt supported, however we can add it in before you purchase.
ScaryMike 1:51 PM - 26 July, 2016
I'd like to understand autoloop a bit more. Do all songs use the same autoloop? Or can you switch autoloops?

Imagine I only have 10% of my songs programmed with lights, I don't want the exact same lighting for the other 90% of my music. So can you switch between different sets of autoloops and how easy can you do it?

Thanks.
ScaryMike 1:54 PM - 26 July, 2016
Oh, and a quick note to those complaining about the price: Xpress512 with ShowXpress is $400... Just for comparison sake. I don't personally believe $500 is too high, at least not yet. I need to see how polished the product is once its released.
Over It... 2:21 PM - 26 July, 2016
As a mobile DJ with over 40 various lighting fixtures, I'm super excited about this. I've also got a few questions.

1. How long can we expect the wait time to be to receive fixture personalities?

2. Is there speed control for moving fixtures?

3. Can we do color changes for non RGB fixtures? Most moving spot lights use a color wheel to change colors.

4. Does the denon controller with the built in hardware for sound switch get free access to the SS software? Or will this be an additional fee as well?

Thanks for taking the time to answer our questions and I look forward to what SS will be capable of.
Over It... 2:28 PM - 26 July, 2016
One more question, what about adjusting lights on the fly? Say the brightness is too high and you want to tone it down, is this possible yet?
Chino 2:39 PM - 26 July, 2016
SoundSwitch looks very promising! I have been looking for an easy lighting program solution that integrates well with SDJ. I was hoping to compare/contrast SoundSwitch versus Denon's StageLinq offering. So far there is not much info on StageLinq so I may just purchase SoundSwitch once the reviews are in.
Dan_SoundSwitch 3:24 PM - 26 July, 2016
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I'd like to understand autoloop a bit more. Do all songs use the same autoloop? Or can you switch autoloops?

Imagine I only have 10% of my songs programmed with lights, I don't want the exact same lighting for the other 90% of my music. So can you switch between different sets of autoloops and how easy can you do it?

Thanks.


Hey ScaryMike,

SoundSwitch will provide a few preset Autoloops but at this stage you create up to 8 banks of 8 Autoloops that will be pulled randomly to play in time with the Beatgrid of songs that you do not have a Light Show scripted for.
DJ Ravien 6:45 PM - 26 July, 2016
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Oh, and a quick note to those complaining about the price: Xpress512 with ShowXpress is $400... Just for comparison sake. I don't personally believe $500 is too high, at least not yet. I need to see how polished the product is once its released.


No one is complaining about the price, but now that you mention it... ShowXpress is not tied to SDJ, and can be used with any DJ software ... or none at all. You also have the option of using Xpress 100 if 512 channels are not needed.

All that said and done I personally am excited about the integration with SDJ which looks very promising. My only concern was dropping $500 dollars blindly, which has been addressed by SoundSwitch releasing the software for download in Aug. Looking forward to that. All in all I have been watching this for awhile now and am likely to pick one up after it's release.

Just out of curiosity has SoundSwitch considered releasing a lesser dongle for those not quite needing 512 channels?
SoundSwitch Team 8:24 PM - 26 July, 2016
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I'd like to understand autoloop a bit more. Do all songs use the same autoloop? Or can you switch autoloops?

Imagine I only have 10% of my songs programmed with lights, I don't want the exact same lighting for the other 90% of my music. So can you switch between different sets of autoloops and how easy can you do it?

Thanks.


Hi ScaryMike,

Thanks for the interest.

Heres a link explaining more about the Autoloops feature:

support.soundswitch.com

Autoloop are SoundSwitch's equivalent to a DMX "Scene" but instead of being static Autoloops are created as loops in lengths of 8,16,32,64 and 128 bars.

There are four banks of 8 Autoloops thats 32 Autoloops in total.

SoundSwitch will automatically load a series of Autoloops and match these to the Beatgrid of songs loaded into Serato DJ that are not scripted.

If you load a second song into Serato DJ, without a scripted show, SoundSwitch will then load different Autoloops from the pervious song to maintain a good level variety.

In future we will expand the Autoloops functionality to include live control that allows you to switch between Autoloops on the fly quantised to the Beatgrid in Serato DJ
SoundSwitch Team 8:38 PM - 26 July, 2016
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As a mobile DJ with over 40 various lighting fixtures, I'm super excited about this. I've also got a few questions.

1. How long can we expect the wait time to be to receive fixture personalities?

2. Is there speed control for moving fixtures?

3. Can we do color changes for non RGB fixtures? Most moving spot lights use a color wheel to change colors.

4. Does the denon controller with the built in hardware for sound switch get free access to the SS software? Or will this be an additional fee as well?

Thanks for taking the time to answer our questions and I look forward to what SS will be capable of.


1. SoundSwitch fixture library is cloud based, if you request a custom fixture for our library, we will input this for you and your fixture library will automatically update. We hope to turn around fixture request in 12 hours or less

2. Because SoundSwitch is a timeline editor, the Pan and Tilt speed depends on who close two position cue are to each other. For example, if you place cues 8 bars apart, it will take 8 bars to change between each cue.

Check out this article for more info on Pan and Tilt control.

support.soundswitch.com

3. Yes, SoundSwitch will match the RGB value to the closet color wheel of none RGB LED fixtures.

4. Great question, we are chatting with the team at Denon and would like to work with them in the future.
Dj Wunder 9:31 PM - 26 July, 2016
Will we have the option to use this along side another controller? Soundswitch would be perfect for most of my show, but there would still be times when I need to hit a specific strobe for a grand entrance or move spots to a speech giver.

I use Luminair right now, and if I could pair that with this... Game Set Match
The Return of Dj Sparky 9:59 PM - 26 July, 2016
the reality is this device is going to be a failure, it's a nice concept though but it's not going to pan out
SoundSwitch Team 10:11 PM - 26 July, 2016
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the reality is this device is going to be a failure, it's a nice concept though but it's not going to pan out


Thanks for your feedback.
SoundSwitch Team 10:19 PM - 26 July, 2016
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Will we have the option to use this along side another controller? Soundswitch would be perfect for most of my show, but there would still be times when I need to hit a specific strobe for a grand entrance or move spots to a speech giver.

I use Luminair right now, and if I could pair that with this... Game Set Match


Hi Dj Wunder,

We are exploring ways to let SoundSwitch users work with existing lighting controllers and software.

Something like a DMX input/through on the hardware that would let SoundSwitch take over from a lighting desk when a Scripted songs is loaded then revert back to a lighting desk.

Live control is defiantly on the radar.
Phsyraxion 11:27 PM - 26 July, 2016
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the reality is this device is going to be a failure, it's a nice concept though but it's not going to pan out


Such wisdom.

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We are exploring ways to let SoundSwitch users work with existing lighting controllers and software.


If this can be achieved i'm sold once it is able to integrate with a wider variety of fixtures such as lasers etc. This system certainly isn't for the "club DJ" but possibly for Serato enabled clubs. I would see this as a lighting assistant for a mobile DJ as I sometimes have an assistant control lighting for parts of the night so it's not just in time with the music but properly triggered too.

I already do a similar thing using Ableton, warped tracks with MIDI triggers to a controller to trigger scenes at the right time but this is way more time consuming to setup and configure and only for specialised applications such as performances.

I'm keen to check out the software and how it can be programmed especially without any fixtures connected to see if it's possible to script off the laptop with serato in maintenance mode. If it had some form of OSD visual emulation you could view from the desktop, even just "led" indicators that would be neat. I program a lot of lighting on spreadsheet when away from home anyway then just program it into the controllers without having anything connected then test. Would love that ability.
SoundSwitch Team 12:26 AM - 27 July, 2016
Hi Phsyraxion,

Get in touch at hi@soundswitch.com
Dj Wunder 1:07 AM - 27 July, 2016
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Will we have the option to use this along side another controller? Soundswitch would be perfect for most of my show, but there would still be times when I need to hit a specific strobe for a grand entrance or move spots to a speech giver.

I use Luminair right now, and if I could pair that with this... Game Set Match


Hi Dj Wunder,

We are exploring ways to let SoundSwitch users work with existing lighting controllers and software.

Something like a DMX input/through on the hardware that would let SoundSwitch take over from a lighting desk when a Scripted songs is loaded then revert back to a lighting desk.

Live control is defiantly on the radar.


SOLD
DJ Ravien 3:54 AM - 27 July, 2016
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If it had some form of OSD visual emulation you could view from the desktop, even just "led" indicators that would be neat.


+1

I certainly agree with this statement.
Cwite 8:07 PM - 28 July, 2016
This seems like an excellent idea and product. I have been tracking all things Soundswitch since posts on Serato and Facebook started to appear.
I feel it will have a limited use with myself but I can't see that that will stop me wanting it. I pretty much only DJ in pubs and clubs that have their own in-house lighting systems and controls, but there are a couple of venues I could see myself using this with some simple LEDS bar fixtures for a booth and back lighting a wall or two around me etc

Having said that, I used to mobile DJ too, and whilst I only ever used to use quick controllers and self DMXing for the most part, this leaves me with lots of questions.....so bare with me :)

When doing mobile work sometimes you use a song as a background song. Other times as part of the main set. Is there a way of changing the script for the same song? I imagine at venue "The Yard" you would do a Yard A and a Yard B. A for back ground segments and B for the main part of the function, or something like this?
Or could you create a "venue" that uses a loop that all songs would play to, without changing with each song change? As an example, you are matching the background segment lighting to a Bride and Groom's colour theme, so you just want to pulse lavender gently to the music etc.

Also, there is no guarantee that you would use the same rig at a said venue because differing customer budgets would determine a different rig at the same venue. Can the system handle this?

If you did set up a rig with less lighting than a script was set for, what would happen??

Are auto loops unique to each venue?

I can see the potential, even in the few venues I would use it in, and I'm really excited at the prospect. I'm just looking for problems ahead of time because of the potential time it would take to set up. Also, I have a blank canvas of sorts. What I can or can't do would probably guide my hand to what lights I would purchase going forward.

Thanks in advance
SoundSwitch Team 8:29 PM - 28 July, 2016
Hi CWite,

I'll start with the easy questions first.

If you did set up a rig with less lighting than a script was set for, what would happen?

This is no problem, SoundSwitch simply will not control the lights that arn't connected.

Are Autoloops unique to each venue?

No they are not unique to each venue.

SoundSwitch uses "Control Tracks" to control lighting. There are "Fixture Tracks" for each light and a Master Track that controls every light in your venue.

Checkout this article for more info: support.soundswitch.com

If you create your Autoloops (or lighting scripts) using the Master Tracks, your Autoloops will play back at any venue you setup in SoundSwitch.

Secondary scripts for audio tracks:

This is a great idea and one we have thought about and will implement in time. It would also be useful for scratch DJ's who instant double the same audio file but want a different light show on each deck so sit tight on this feature.

Customer budgets would determine ....... venue. Can the system handle this?

Yes, you can setup multiple different lighting rigs using the "Venue Tabs" in Edit Mode. You can have up to seven Different light rigs/venues setup in SoundSwitch. When it comes to performing, you simply choose which venue you will be playing at that night.



.......uses a loop.......... changing with each song change?

We will add live controls to Autoloops one feature will be to select and repeat a particular Autoloop. : )
DJ Ravien 8:53 PM - 28 July, 2016
Still curious to know if you have any plans on releasing a USB dongle for users not in need of 512 channels?
SoundSwitch Team 8:56 PM - 28 July, 2016
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Still curious to know if you have any plans on releasing a USB dongle for users not in need of 512 channels?


Hey DJ Ravien,

We do have plans to release a scaled down version of SoundSwitch, but no time line on this.
Cwite 8:57 PM - 28 July, 2016
Thanks for the fast reply!

This is all great news. :-)

Secondary scripts is something I'm sure a lot of mobile DJs would be interested in, but also myself in certain places. One club I play in is open from 10pm but pretty quiet till 11,11:30. Then it goes nuts untill 3am. I would use this so the lighting wasn't so intense untill the busy period.


I will keep a very close watch on proceedings :-)
DJ Ravien 9:02 PM - 28 July, 2016
Excellent, I am still looking forward to the software release in Aug, perhaps that will be enough to persuade me to make some budget cuts else where ... Not like I'll die of starvation :p
SoundSwitch Team 10:24 PM - 28 July, 2016
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Excellent, I am still looking forward to the software release in Aug, perhaps that will be enough to persuade me to make some budget cuts else where ... Not like I'll die of starvation :p


Cool, Thanks DJ Ravien.

We have a cool announcement coming around the time of the release, we think you will like it.
SoundSwitch Team 10:24 PM - 28 July, 2016
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Thanks for the fast reply!

This is all great news. :-)

Secondary scripts is something I'm sure a lot of mobile DJs would be interested in, but also myself in certain places. One club I play in is open from 10pm but pretty quiet till 11,11:30. Then it goes nuts untill 3am. I would use this so the lighting wasn't so intense untill the busy period.


I will keep a very close watch on proceedings :-)


Any time dude.

Talk soon.
Cj "Tha" Sticman 4:06 PM - 11 February, 2018
Is There a way for Sound switch to work on the fly or do i have to completely script every song in my hard drive. I Love what the way this software works with Serato Dj . I use the hard ware with my lights wireless and it makes setup super easy but it keeps the lights pointed in one direction. Are there any pre-programed chases , movement packages or plugins?
Dj Wunder 6:01 AM - 12 February, 2018
So I guess I'll be the one to bring it up...

Pioneer DJ has lifted their big, fat, middle fingers and pointed them both at soundswitch.

Thoughts?

One feature they are touting is the phrase analysis generating appropriate light shows automagically. Do you actually think this will work correctly in the real world? Do you think Serato and SoundSwitch can create a feature like that?

Pioneer has the big advantage of being a standard install around the world, and all of this tech, from hardware to software is in-house. Is it not time that Serato, SoundSwitch, MixEmergency and Rane band together??
citi 5:56 PM - 24 February, 2018
CJ there are autoloops so if you don't have a song programmed it will play one of the prebuilt or custom auto loops. Similar to Serato Video, having random videos in your media crate.

DJ Wunder - I agree. Pioneers version looks pretty damn slick, it "appears" to really analyze the sound file and build a proper light show, and with their lyrics plugin, it puts it on a whole new level. Soundswitch's audio analyzer does the job, but it's kind of basic. Not to mention, they NEVER fixed my Chauvet Swarm 5 fx which makes that part of my show unusable.

I'm buying the new DDJ 1000 when it comes out and I will be testing their new light box.

OH and the controller actually works out of the box with the light controller with corresponding pad colors. So if you want red, you hit the red pad on the controller. No midi mapping needed. That's next level.
SoundSwitch Team 8:00 PM - 25 February, 2018
Hey Wunder and Citi,

First up.......sorry Citi, we should have got that Swarm fixture for you, hit me on support@soundswitch.com and I will get that sorted ASAP.

As for Pioneer LightMode, their phase detection is really cool and is something we have plans to implement for sure.

Recently we've focused on adding some additional manual features as our existing users have been crying out for this, so before we dive into more automated features, we've focused on getting our power users comfortable.

The one to one pad mapping is great as well, it obviously helps that Pioneer built their hardware as well. Its on our hit list.

The biggest thing to remember is that LightMode works on Rekordbox DJ while SoundSwitch works on Serato DJ and, while its a shame Pioneer choose to bite rather than work together with us, we are stoked that Rekordbox DJ users now have the ability to control their lighting as well.

Over its a good thing, its going to push us to create solutions that rival that of biggest company in the game and we are looking forward to that challenge.
Mr Wilks 3:10 AM - 26 February, 2018
@SoundSwitch Team

As you have SDJ and VDJ covered... what are the chances of working with Denon DJ to get SS working with StageLinq?

They have given their StageLinq SDK out to various lighting companies and would be interesting to see something for the Prime gear and the MCX8000. Maybe a DMX controller that has an Ethernet port for connection to Denon equipment?

Just a random thought as it looks like Pio will be doing their own thing now.
SoundSwitch Team 3:19 AM - 26 February, 2018
Wilks, your ahead of the pack for sure.

Keep an eye out for an update in the near future.
Mr Wilks 12:34 PM - 26 February, 2018
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Wilks, your ahead of the pack for sure.

Keep an eye out for an update in the near future.


Very interesting :)