I should have added... Is the Pulselocker files co-mingled with your regular library or can you direct that to another share?

I had the same questions you did, so I decided to give the beta a try just to check out Pulselocker. I recorded a quick video with an explanation of my findings:

Watchwww.youtube.com

I could see myself having Pulselocker as an addition to the DJ pools that i subscribe to, but at this point I can't see myself using Pulselocker as a replacement for them.

When it downloads does it co-mingle the songs with your regular files or does it store it into the local Serato directory?

If you don't pay for a month you loose access to the files if Pulselocker go bust you loose the lot. If Pulselocker remove content you loose it. You do not get to keep the files ect.

My biggest question (and I will probably play with it tonight when I download it) is if it will auto analyze your tracks; specifically the volume.

So basically its like spotify. You loose your files if you don't subscribe. How does that make sense sef?

And i see what they did with the exchange rate too $19 = 20 pounds

You don't own the files...your leasing them month to month. If you stop paying, your "lease" is gone and done.

And, I assume, that if Pulselocker loses its agreement with the record label, the tracks get removed from their library and yours.

I run an external drive to keep tracks on and go back and forth between two computers. I assume the tracks are stored in a data folder that is dictated by Serato and Pulselocker and I won't be able to move the files.

Shouldn't be more than 5 bucks a month then.

Doesn't seem right since Spotify is more than $5 a month

an integrated streaming service within SDJ is def worth more than 5$ a month.

Is it true that record is disabled when you are playing a pulse locker tune.

Yes

Informative vid. Thanks!

Glad you found it helpful!

Not to be a debby-downer here, think about it guys "Big Brother" is looking for a way to allow/prohibit and charge you for music.

There's a few things I see wrong with this technology:
What If Pulselocker loses it Record Label content partner?
Not all venues will have an internet connection so this means a DJ would have to purchase a mobile hotspot package that will allow 99999999999gigs of data.
Does the music file need to buffer similar to how a track is analyzed on you laptop, so this means a Fast internet connect will be needed
Pulselocker will not be any use to a Video DJ as the file content will probably small like that of a an iPOD file (ACC format)

In my opinion this technology is way ahead of its time and I believe that some of the software bugs, product support and current technology should be perfected prior to introducing other technology that gets designed on a broken platform.

I hate to say it but SDJ 1.7.5 is closest to being stable on most Macbook Pros, many DJs that I have networked with are using MixEmergency with SDJ and/or SSL.

they are charging

Welp, there is my reason not to get it. Having a "physical" file IMO is still the way to go (for now) due to the reasons others have stated (minus the pricing aspect) Spotty internet being the biggest concern.

Pulselocker seems like a bit of a fail at the moment. Are there any other interesting news in 1.9?

serato needs to get pulselocker to analise the whole database ,

not only serato but all the other software partners, when you stream a song no meta data appears you have to save it for offline then scan to get a bpm and key, this info needs to be shown when a search of pulselocker is done not after you download, disconnect your sl device and analise

Anyone up for doing some song searches in pulse locker ? I'm interested in how deep their catalogue is.

people should start posting songs and seeing if they come up

Why don't you use the free 2 week trial?

it might be good just to see what comes up and what doesnt, ive been on it.

i think it would take a while to get in the groove and build up playlists and such.

first time i was on it, i didnt verify the account and it wouldnt load(which i didnt realize), but i did go to the website and make and account and look around.

pretty cool. its just one of those things that could take time to find things or realize what isnt in there as far as labels and artists.

Id like to know why its 20 bucks when VDJ does the same thing at only 10 bucks plus I can download a cache file whereas SDJ only lets you stream it??

And why does it have "Tribute" versions?
I tried it today. Nice idea but I don't know what it offers that the normal pools dont?

Serato have to get their cut

and you have to use vdj. nothing wrong with it, but most people here are using serato.

hence the serato.com/forum/discussion web addy

Yeah I know this is the "Serato" forum, I was sent an invite to the beta but 20bucks for that obscure request every now and again isn't worth it to me.

This is only good for those obscure request which is what id use it for only. Anyone trying to build they're library with this is nuts!!

That 240 a year would be better spent on a legit pool else where.

Its a great idea and a nice "tool" but that's exactly how it should be looked at, a "tool".

These newbies are shooting themselves in the foot with this.......

not really cuz they can just go steal the music they like and save thru pulse locker or go buy a lossless file at a digital store. at least they wont be getting shite quality dj pool tracks.

1.9 has added way too many features. Can we get back to stability or nah...

One feature 😂 Ya to much that

1. You well need to open a separate thread for that so as not to derail this one 😁

2. Or open a help request. If you have open a request, kindly post the ticket number here so it can be chased up.

3. Stability is a feature we hope to bring to Serato DJ, but we don't have a date for that yet. Just make sure you have Scratch Live installed on your snow leopard.

4. We hope after implementing the new "Ultra Combo mode" requested by "all the DJs" for that "Ultra Victory DJ performance" stability will be our next focus.

5. Don't forget to open a feature request 😂

I swear Tecniq's only got one record in his crate 'cos he never changes it.

Yup one scratch record....

Torrents, youtube and Ableton to remix your tracks is way yyyyyyyyy better. Plus you can have stuff others will be trying to I.D. instead of playing the same stuff:) I will pass.

If pulselocker has a library like Spotify and works like Pyro does with the song suggestions I'd be in heaven.
I guess with my old age and different music tastes now I'm finding it hard to keep up with new tunes and find myself being the old skool guy but since I been on Pyro I have been keeping up with new music a lot easier.

Just from that video pulse locker library needs more tags. Sorting by year. Genre. Sub genre. Etc

PL is direct from record labels and has much broader selection whereas torrents is peer to peer. Which do you think would be more unique? Direct from the labels or direct from.................. other people who already have it. Furthermore THIS is legal where what you are suggesting is not.
The $20 PL tier absolutely does include the option to download the file for use offline but I find that the music is much more suited for my taste. Still has work to be done with the mainstream etc. but it is coming along. From what I have seen the content unlimited has taken a huge hit since VDJ got caught with the who grooveshark debacle. Youtube/video edits, lacking library, etc. although I am not sure if they have gotten things straightened out. I do know (from recent testing) there is already a huge and definite difference in content very much in Pulselockers favor for the genres of music I prefer. TBH PL actually beats out even Spotify in many cases.

I am assuming your experience with content unlimited has been pretty good which is fine. Different strokes for different folks. Both are pretty amazing. I think PL has a better offer but not sure it is twice as good but time will tell. They have been speaking (over at PL) about offering a mobile app later this year which would definitely sweeten the pot and they certainly need to get rid of the filler (tribute and cover) tracks. Personally I would prefer Spotify but I'll take PL for now :)
Ugh
Year is already present. The Genre I am sure will be added at some point (as the website offers full arrangement of such) but yes very surprised it is not there already. VERY nice to see the record label tag always present and the rest (Key, BPM, etc) will show up when analyzed (or played) as usual.

I just joined Pulselocker minutes ago - looking at it with a web browser first and eventually will try the offline player.

I need to update some physical record pool tracks later tonight but figured I would search for some of the same hits in Pulselocker and see if available.

Signup seems pretty painless - like an expansion pack.

I think I have a gig next weekend where it is a former clients parent 75th birthday, not sure if pluselocker will take me that far back but may come handy.

Just searched for Temptations nothing I wanted came up BUT when I searched for THE Temptations - got some of what I needed. I guess you have to be REAL specific with searches - not like the Serato search we all know and love.

Will post up more about it and follow this thread after I did deeper into it

Absolutely and I hate this part! You'll use a keyword and nothing then you actually add a word and stuff pops up...................... makes no sense.

Please include an option to deactivate PL. I'm not going to use it and it's making my Serato cluttered.
It should be a plug in..No?
Isn't that the reason y'all removed the beat match Tempo display

Hmmmm ----> i190.photobucket.com

swear some of you are like the bad requesters at clubs.

I saw DVO bring up the same thing at one point but what i don't understand is that it is you yourself who has to activate it in the first place. Wouldn't it be reasonable that the proper course of action would be to simply not log in or activate it?

youre making too much sense dave

Thanks

Didn't see that. It was on by default sirs/mas

Without being logged in (via SDJ) Pulselocker does not word does it? Furthermore how were you logged in without entering your account info?

= work

Says....the beginner DJ.

I think he may have ben talking about the Pulselocker line linkwith the Offline Tracks and Playlist subcrates - no? 3 lines of clutter

I hope not. You can minimize that so it is literally only one line within the crates.

Then again who am I to tell anyone what is or what is not clutter. Either way easy enough the option he is/was asking for was there from the beginning so all is well :)

Ive been going through Pluselocker catalog, building playlist and doing a few mixes at home for a few days now. There catalog has to be one of the best I use. Did a search by label by putting in Motown, Stax, and Def Jam and found a lot of stuff I may need in the future. Whats really dope about them is they have a huge selection of underground hip hop like stuff from Stones Throw, Mello Music Group, BBE, and more. More stuff than the other MP3 pools that all have the same stuff.

It's all good now.

Took me a minute to find where the Tempo Matching Display was. Didn't realise it was an option.

For a minute I thought I was running 1.8 only to find the toggle deep within the options.

I just hope the folks at serato take a wee breather and just improve efficiency over the next few X.X.X updates.

Still can't delete files properly.

As this is about PL, I did try it out and it's got a deep afrobeats , I'm talking early hits from 2face Idibia.

Wish they had a purchase option, they need to clean up that library fast. OMG.

I see tracks there with wrong BPM and Grid. Is this a serato problem?

Yes as the tracks analyze as it downloads the stream/file to your laptop.

The serato bpm/grid detection is shocking at best anyway. They made it better for a free pyro app like. but stuff paying sdj users.

Agreed and it's gotten worse since the latest update. It's shifting cue points and beat grids even locked ones

I learned to spin real vinyl back in the early 80's and I been using ScratchLive since 1.7.x around 2007 or so, I always beat matched by ear and used the big (and small) vertical waveforms in the center of SSL and SDJ.

Now that I know how to ACTUALLY use that Tempo Match display - that shit actually has to be one of Serato's BEST features since cue points, auto BPM detection and Instant Doubles.

Thanks for bringing it back!!!

Used 1.9 last night for some practice and found myself looking at Tempo Match Display more and more.

Shit is actually awesome. Fuck keeping it real - that went away with the Sync button - lol.

whats the key? i never really understood it

Kinda explains it here - youtu.be at 2:30

If you ever spun real vinyl - it's actually like a digital VISUAL finger push or finger drag to align the tracks QUICKLY.

You just look at the icicles at the top and move the pitch to line them up.

Hard to explain until you actually use them - old school DJs do this naturally but this quickly reinforces what you already do.

well it seems to work now, with pulselocker running everything fine.

i deinstalled the beta originally and re installed.

wrong thread, but still its pretty cool. not sure why its a bad thing at all.

I upgraded to Serato from Intro because of the potential for Pulselocker but I'm already starting to regret it. The selection of tracks is shoddy at best. I'm really shocked and disappointed. I looked for tracks by Dixon, John Talabot, Kink, Tale of Us and Lake People, all big names (about as big as it gets) in the underground house and techno scene and Pulselocker had one of them (and that was the Lake People one, who are the least well known of the five). I won't be bothering to stay with it, which is a pity because it was exactly what I was looking for.

Just to put that post in to context, Spotify has four of those tracks. I just search for Innervisions (one of the biggest labels in house music) and they had three or four releases from about five years ago and nothing since?

teddlyf pop your feedback in here serato.com

so 1 to 4 is an major upgrade? i

Well I only looked for five...

I just did a basic search for five of the biggest tracks in the scene from the past couple of years

Serato dj has a FREE trial.
Pulselocker has a FREE trial.

So the real problem is you are failing you by not thinking smart. Lesson learned ?

Well I'd have upgraded to Serato DJ eventually anyway, but I went earlier than I was going to!

Ooh that's a big strike. Definitely contradicts my Serato search technique of only using partial words, so "Don't Stop Believing by Journey" gets found by typing "journ don stop"

Same here. Will use artist first name or last name remixer first name or last name and one or two key words of song. Currently this does not work with PL. I mean you can even spell it out letter for letter, word for word and it may or may not come up. Then type the artist name and search (fine tooth comb and takes a while) and BOOM there it is!

Ew.