I don't care what anyone tells you trust when I say (after countless intelligent lighting and many other effects) that the Swarm FX is the best money you can spend for the price.

While not being really intelligent in nature it offers three different FX. Not just marketing here if literally offers three different types of output.

1.) Red/Green star-burst/kaleidoscope laser

2.) RGB LED moonflower/derby effect

3.) Bright white LED strobe/blinder/washout effect.

You can select all FX at one time. Two at a time. Even just one at a time.

You can also select specific properties of one color or one behavior. For instance you can have JUST red laser or just green laser. You can have bright white dim on/off or even strobe.
If you want to go with just the RBG LED's you can even choose specific colors to match your theme.

Point being this will work with slow dance, country, techno, house, hip hip............. whatever. fast or slow. subtle or high energy. One of my best lighting purchases ever. To be quite frank it is the only effect under $500 I would recommend to anyone.

Watchwww.youtube.com

I bought two Swarm 5 FX's last week. I was able to use them last night. I was pleasantly surprised. They can easily cover a lot of area.

Bang for the buck, 2 Swarm 5 FX's can't be beat.

THANK YOU FELLAS!

Well, I guess the GC guy wasn't trying to get over....

I actually bought the Swarm 5 yesterday...

Debating in if I should get another one....

www.djjohnnym.com

I think you should get the second one plus a DMX cable, and then you will be set. You will be able to cover large rooms if need be.

Also curious. The thing may not be a miracle but for the dirt cheap price it more than proves its worth IMO.

Because I got it at the last minute without consulting with you guys...lol.

I'm notorious for doing my research before a buying venture.... :-)

I didn't know if y'all had something better for the money, or an idea of "nah, don't get one of those, get two of these" or something like that...

They have a 14 return policy, (15% restock fee if I don't buy anything), so I'm just exploring all my options here...

I got into DJing because I bought lighting and had to justify owning them LOL. That was almost 20 years ago!!!

LOL - me too!

See THIS is why I come to y'all, that bag is a great idea.

Pretty much double your budget, but the Chauvet GigBar isn't really all that bad. A guy I know spins in a smaller room weekly, and I'm pretty impressed by it.

Not gonna happen....

It's just called #adjustingtoyoursurroundings ...

A lot of DJ cats complain about not getting gigs (supposedly) because of Freejays, undercutters, advancement of laptop DJ's, etc... without doing something to enhance their competitive stance.

It has now come to the point where EVERY SINGLE DJ has at LEAST a single light, so I have to at least compete on that level, so that IF they ask the question, I can at least say I have some "lights".

WHAT??????????

JM wants lights? see there hell done froze over!!!!!!!……….lol

this coming from the dude that said he don't use ligtss & good forbid someone turned on a light a a party ………what?????????


as stated above the best hands down light in your price range is the Chauvet Swarm FX5, i missed this post i could have got it to you for $165 out the door

now all you need is some of these---> www.ebay.com

Like I said, I ain't trying to have anybody have seizures out this piece, but I don't want it to come down to "This DJ HAS lights" vs "This DJ DOESN'T have lights"....

The DJ "scene" is much more commercial now, plus again, this is all part of the plan to do more cheesy set up quick, break down fast jawns....

Jam Pack Gold all tha way. Same prize. The light has awesome coverage👌🏻
m.pssl.com

Price*

Whoa.....

Forreal??? a light, laser, lightbar AND a fog machine?

200? AND by Chauvet?

+1

swarm 5 is the best light you can get right now in it's price range, two of them together is pretty nice

I'm not having remorse over it, (because I can still return it but incur a restocking fee, (30 bucks?), but I LOVE the idea of having multiple devices for the same price.

I hate all in ones basically, BUT 2 Swarms IS appealing.

Can you imagine the T-Bar with a separate laser, and light effect AND can fit in whatever bag they say? In NO WAY am I a lighting guy, but this package is HELLA attractive...

I need to do some more research....

This 3 minute thing is EXACTLY what I'm talking about...

What is this GigBar that you speak of?

But 4 separate devices vs. 1 just LOOKS large....

I gotta peep that as well....

dude that swarm is 3 effects in one……for what it is its small, you will not get a better light for $165 period

It's very impressive....I can't front....

How much?

@ JM two swarm fx5 than add a few of these jaws for uplighting
www.ebay.com

your good

gigbar $450

Oh...ha ha...no haps...

So, I'm at the crossroads of getting that Pack the DJ Techic posted or staying with what I have....

On one hand, I LOVE the idea of having separate components to interchangeably bring, either singularly or in a group...and if one thing breaks, no big deal...vs the entire unit being down...

But that Swarm is NICE....but I'm inclined to think that I'd need 2 to really get a dope effect, in a large room, and WOULD do that if the price was right...

But that package deal also looks like it would fill an entire room...

The question right now is which one would fill the room better?

I'm leaning towards 2 SWARMS....(that way I'd have a backup light in case one goes out).

Decisions, decisions....

Wait a minute, I'm not doing large shows like that....so...hmmm...

Wow...

@ Just1Fixxx do you also own a swarm fx5?

that GigBar is 4 built in effects & looks like it may be better than the swarm, i like the all in one aspect i'm about to sell my swarms & get two

witch do you like better two swarm 5 or one gig bar?

this is the first time i ever saw it ,for its size it is impressive

this is a great feature as strobes can often be to bright

LMAO…….

thats what i was thinking two evox two of these one ddi sr….i'm completely set up in 20min or less

But this ain't about Joee......

























lmao.

don't worry i'm on my way to derail this thread……..lol


i'm going to turn it into the should i buy this light thread
lmao……see he knows

LMAO....but yeah....my lights....

thats what i'm saying should i buy this GigBar? what you think?

you already know what to get swarm fx5

peep this one two looks nice
Watchwww.youtube.com

i'm just messing wit JM, i already know

I need to peep the setup time for that package....I also like having the multiple devices, and that REMOTE seems hot...

That way I can bring one light or a lazer, and go...

But that Swarm thing with 2 heads, gives me my "backup"...but that price....400? nah..

If I can get 2 for 3 bills....that would be a GO....

two swarms $330 stop playing, i already got you the hook up, and in your case i defiantly recommend the swarm5 ……stop playin & stick with it than get a second


FYI…..Never EVER EVER ever…..pay retail son

@ JM

you being cheap and all AH Hum, excuse me frugal, these jaws work just like the name brand ones

www.ebay.com

I'm on it...

step your lighting game up son


www.ebay.com

for what is is it's a great deal, if it was name brand it would cost $400 to $500

Watchwww.youtube.com

@ JM

not mad at you, when i first started out i used a street stop light, you know the yellow body jaws ……i had a red one that i used to light the room red

jaws = jawns

Yup and it's finally out now. I've been waiting for this package it was introduced at Namm 2015👍🏻

This!!!! They just released the Mini Kinta with IRC remote which is out now and yes I can't believe the coverage this light has for such a small price. The perfect effect for a nightclub or mobile👏🏻

feeling that piece of gear - especially in a small room or environment. good looking out on that,,, that youtube vid was impressive.

my light game is kinda weak, I'm afraid to admit. mainly because I do not do mobiles - but I have learned a lot from this forum & some of these threads. question though - isn't Chauvet considered total shit? or is that American DJ stuff? or both? Don't major clubs and spots use stuff like Martin only?

Wow, I thought American DJ was weaker than Chauvet....

I like this thread man, y'all know ya stuff...

oh, I wasn't implying by any means that the average mobile dude have that on their rig - I was just curious as to where the light pecking order is. every major club I've ever done in my career, pretty much any time I looked up it said "Martin" somewhere on the thing. thats about the extent of my knowledge of lights. I've seen some American DJ stuff from other colleagues, and they pretty much treat the stuff like its the "Gemini" brand of the light world

IMO there more than adequate for mobile dj's not Sh!t at all

I have a Gig Bar and it is my most used lighting fixture. Its just so fast to set up/take down and real does a great job in a small to med venue. The ADJ Dotz Tpar looks pretty nice too.

www.digitaldjtips.com

www.digitaldjtips.com

I knew somehow, somewhere along the loines someone would mention LED bars and pars.............. boring & lame is all I have to say about them. These are lights that you get because you have to not because they are fun.

i PURCHASED 1 Swarm FX about 5 months ago and it is my "official light" that comes to all events even if the client didn't pay for lighting.

@ DJJOHNNYM_vSL3

Our clientele which i believe to be very similar (urban, east-coast, tri-state, grown & sexy, oldschool & new-school 30-60 yr old mix) simply are not big on lighting when it comes to paying extra $$$ for it.

My advise, keep it simple so not to add to your setup time. 2 lights connected to your speaker poles and call it a day unless you find clientele ready to spend an extra $400 for basic lighting which requires an additional 15 mins to set up.

Not really feeling any of the swarm-fx lights. Such a bunched up effect it gives off. The mini kinta alone shits all over that.

agreed…..but did you peep that GigBar?

www.idjnow.com

Watchwww.youtube.com

i think it has the swarm 5 beat

fixed

I swear, you're my brotha from another mother...

This is EXACTLY how I anticipate how I'd use it.

What would you say is the biggest coverage (in terms of room size or amount of people) that 1 would work for?

Do you see an advantage of having 2 and running them in sync?

THIS......Now I did a very upscale event for an upscale client at the last minute last year, NO LIGHTS.

And they called me back for this year....again at an upscale location....

So I wanted to turn it up just a bit with the light, so they know what they can expect from me when given enough time to plan.

This is also the event that I will need the EV's and Subs by, and this would be the PERFECT occasion to use them.

I anticipate purchasing the speakers by 5/22-23, so watch your inbox... :-D



Trust, I'm the last person to shine a light in a party, but again, you have to adjust with the DJ climate vs complaining about it.

EVERYBODY and I mean EVERYBODY has a DJ light nowadays....even if it's just a little tabletop laser.....

funny how a year changes that prospective "i don't use no lights"…..lol

And I STILL don't use lights, but I've been saying I'm going to start doing those "Cheesy" events, and we ALL know they REQUIRE lights and quick setup/breakdown times.

This is the DJ "climate" that's messing all this up, cats bringing lights "For Free" or as an "Expected" part of the package have driven it to this point, but on the OTHER hand, lights have gotten MUCH simpler in setup and are able to produce so much for so little, you'd be a fool not to get at least ONE.

I bought this little laser a couple of months ago and it's been totally worth it. I was impressed by how much space such a small laser could cover. Everyone I show it to gives me a positive reaction. It's small, has a remote control included, really covers the room and is only 79.00.

www.zzounds.com

Tell me more about this please.... :-)

Joe how can I get alerts on your Private listings these are some good deals. Im gonna buy a few things

Joe tell me why your laser is dirt cheap and other lasers that look similar are almost grand? Just real quick Im not a lighting genius Im still learning

you do realize it's not my listing i'm just showing some cheap lighting….lol


but yes there cheap as hell for a quad laser, remember the ADJ micro galaxian that sold for $100 they have it for less than 20, i'm guessing what makes them cheaper is there not name brand……i have 10 uplight that i got for $140 & they been working great

Oh ok sounds good to me, looks like they are cheaper because they are not compliant lasers in regards to American requirements. I like the casa lasers Im gonna get a few I can make a cheap light show and up charge for it. Currently I pay another company to come and do my lights at mobiles and its pricey most customers wont pay for it. This way I can get lighting and up charge like 100-200 bucks instead of 600 up charge I do now.

Joe quick question if you had to build starter mobile DJ light set to include

Uplights
Lasers
Moving head units

what rig would you put together for a budget of lets say $600 max. What type of trussing system would you reccommend that does not look cheesy I do not like the Tripod look for my lights is there any alternative besied box trussing?

thats doesn't even get you a decent pair of moving heads

but a light show on a budget i would certainly get two swarm 5fx's $330 there than 10 of the ebay uplight like $150 there so that leaves you $120 to spend

or better yet get one GigBar $450 & the 10 uplights ….peep the GigBar
Watchwww.youtube.com

for moving heads i would not get anything cheaper than the ADJ Inno Spot LED
Watchwww.youtube.com

there about $450 each

you could always try these
www.ebay.com

but i'm not sure how good they are
Watchwww.youtube.com

Yea lights are expensive that why I rent. Currently I own 4 up lights 1 mini kinta and 1 revo 4. Should have mentioned that already so I want stuff that will compliment. The Revo 4 is still bad ass to me but I know its old.

Would you reccommend those Casa lasers you showed have you demoed them and are they bright?

Gig Bar looks sweet

sorry to thread jack JM

heres another vid
Watchwww.youtube.com


I've only used the uplight & the $15 adj micro galaxian knock off they both preformed well, what ever you buy just make sure they offer free return shipping, this way you have nothing to lose

& FYI the swarm fx5 is a major kick ass light @ $165 check the vid @ 2:20
Watchwww.youtube.com

man forget about jm…….lol


he already know what he's getting

Im liking the idea of getting some of those moving heads from foreign vendors and not paying the American mark up Im just concerned on buying from foreign vendors I may risk it one time on ebay for these moving heads and that laser bar you showed I can get all of that for under 600$ at 15w I dont need much more Im doing mobiles Im not in NFL stadium.

that swam is a kick ass light it crushed my revo 4

^ so no i just confused you more & you still don't know what to get right?…….lol



i would defiantly get that GigBar to start with

THE REASON they are cheap is because they are Chinese bootleg versions and yes you would be right to assume "they are not compliant lasers in regards to American requirements."

lol, enjoy....

LMAO! Yep! Joee been in PM doing what he does....

Saying - "Well you know, if you're on a budget, you can get <Insert Ebay Link here> lights, I don't know how they perform, but the price is right"....lmao..

I'm like NO! I've made up my mind....lmao.

Oh, and Joee, I pulled the trigger with ya boy....

Good lookin' fam.

Y'all notice, that Joee will do his BEST to convince you of "Item 1", and once you're going with it, he'll later say, "Well, besides "Item 1", if you're on a Budget, you can get "Item 2, 3, or 4...or hit ebay...etc..etc."

Salute to you Joee...

Our resident Speaker (and lights) sales guy....

We just have to figure out which company you work for....lmao.

But do them jawns WORK? lol...

Man, took the original BACK to GC, was supposed to pay the "Restocking Fee" of 35 bucks, but I guess the guy didn't know to do so, so he credited me back the ENTIRE amount back...

Man look..

I initially paid 219.99 + tax = 235.39.

I heard I could get TWO of those jawns for 330.00 - out the door...

So to get to 2 lights @ GC I would have wound up paying 219.99 x 2 = 439.98 + tax 30.80 = 470.78.

470.78 - 330.00 = 140.78, which is 25 bucks short of buying 3 NEW ONES thru Joee's guy.

Even if I HAD to pay the restocking fee, it would have been 35 + 330.00 = 365.00 which is STILL better than 470.78.

I'm paying 330.00 out the door....for TWO....

That satisfies my "All in one" issue of if one conks out, and allows me to do larger venues if needed....

Win, win...

no problem JM anytime……..man you got lucky they didn't charge you the restocking fee, you must have been running out of that GC before they realized

LMAO……..

Not to worry this dude usually gets it wrong. When there is a fire and the crowd is running way tecniq is the dude running the opposite direction................

well he does like the QSC K-Sub

Yeah because it fits in his trunk if I remember correctly..................... :)

thats about the only place the k sub belongs ,as part of a car audio system :)

LMAO

In most cases yes but with a higher rate of failure and sometime no support or recourse.

But some are reputable, it just take research to verify them and this is the accepted cost of paying 1/3 the authentic price.

that guy is like the forums designated punching bag........

For good reason doe.....lol

oopps...I can order that later I guess....lol.

Man listen...

I was almost a dummy and said "And how much are you going to charge me for the restocking fee?", but I kept my mouf shut....

And hauled azz....

never ever shop @ guitar center & most defiantly never ever ever EVER pay retail for gear son

next up is---> en.audiofanzine.com

Yeah. Never ever buy cheap OFFICAL vinyl at guitar center. :P

nm

actually I just bought a Kia Sorento so now I have the room for just about any sub👌🏼

look who it is you lonely there Chix in need of attention


but i will give her that she is right that was a steal for then jawns


cary on

The Swarm 5 fx is cool but it is not spread out like the mini kinta nor does it have the coverage the mini kinta has. But whatever...I actually think it's quite an ugly light and not only that just about "every" mobile Dj has the swarm 5 fx so sure go ahead and get it you won't be standing out though👏🏻

I bought a couple of Swarm 5 FX about a year ago, and I can tell you it's better to own 2 because they don't have a very wide coverage, only a pretty good vertical coverage. I use dmx sticks to use them as master-slave and they work fantastic in pairs, beautiful patterns.

That's pretty much all you need, I also own a LED bar that I place underneath the table covered by a scrim king.

I recently purchased an ADJ Dotz bar 1.4 because I had a couple of gigs where the place was very very dark (outdoors) and the lights were not providing a lot of brightness, but I understand that's not the purpose of the Swarm 5 FX, their purpose is more like to "decorate" and they do the job quite well.

I use the Dotz Bar either to light the wall behind me or if the dancefloor needs some washing. That's all the lightning I use and I'm not planning on upgrading anytime soon. Everything is very quick to setup.

agreed ……all you have to do is set it up catty corner & it fixes that problem, or use two problem solved


huh? you mean the actual light…….not the effect?


a kia A KIA?……..awwww man!

Watchwww.youtube.com


The guy running the opposite way in a fire would typically stand out too. Keep in mind sometimes there is a reason so many people are doing something or in this case have/use something.

LMAO……stop it

Swarm 5fx youtu.be

VS

Mini Kinta youtu.be

^ wider coverage, wider beams, better effect... Just all around better but if you want to go for the rainbow light it's cool it would be neat at an elementary school or the gay parade😂

awww man thats just mean son…….

but ay if you like them mini jawns so much theres a guy selling 6 of them out here for $20 each

Judging by those two videos, seems like the Mini Kinta seems better. Of course, the video for the Swarm wasn't as detailed as the one for the Kinta

nm

this

Agreed but why yahll hating on my Kia I get great gas mileage and I can fit a shit load of equipment I love this thing🙌🏼 www.dropbox.com

it looks nice, but its a kia

And yes Kia's used to be whack. They've come a long way though and are great vehicles with a great price. But ppl will hate regardless✋🏻👏🏻

i'm a honda man myself

Still the Swarm 5Fx not that appealing to me. Just looks like a bunch of lasers and small dots on the floor. The only thing I will give it is the 3d effect it gives off other than that the mini kinta is my choice for a wide coverage mobile/club light. Two of them connected and you got some awesome coverage👍🏻 I already have 2 Chauvet min laserz so they swarm 5 fx wouldn't benefit me.
youtu.be

If the mini kinta has more coverage, (regardless of what was shown on the video), I would have to choose that one - especially at that price.

nm

This makes sense, but you have to remember how many mobile DJ's only want to limit themselves to as very few lights as possible.

nm

When I look for a club/mobile light I look for the coverage and how wide the beams actually look... Swarm 5FX is cool but way too thin for my taste and for the price I don't see it's worth..

awww man lets just agree to disagree


you like the kinta i like the swarm, you like kia i like honda……lol

FYI:

Monoprice has what look to be Blizzard Flurry knockoffs, at $179 per. I had a pair of Blizzards, they won't knock your socks off, but for a all amount of $, it's a "wow cool" effects.

Mini Kintas have a nice bit of coverage, I also agree better coverage than Swarm, but 2 swarms "might" be better.

*a little

my man……i agree

Bottom line is not matter what you choose, most customers won't know the difference between one light or the other. lol

So, choose the light you like at the price you can afford or are willing to spend

nm

Meant to say, bottom line is it doesn't matter what you choose... etc

nm

I'm not trying to change anyone's preference in just saying get your money's worth. Take 2 of each light and pair them and I guarantee you will pick the kinta...imo

Yeah. That price is killer for the kinta. I'm not denying that. I would probably pick that one too.

nm

2 kinta's paired together to me just look like intelligent club lighting. The coverage is something you'd expect at a high end nightclub.. Just beautiful
youtu.be

Nothing can beat that slow stove effect with each color on that kinta.., that is fire!

Strobe*

The swarm 5 fx has wayyy too much going on for 1 light fixture causing it to look cluttered. That's just my honest opinion. But if ppl think it's dope that's fine too👍🏻

Honestly the Kinta's go against everything I feel about lighting. YES I was into the derby effect but that was when I was 14 and purchased my first light....................... a double derby. Since then I am more about club style lighting. I do agree the Kinta is more widespread but then again so is a mirror ball/pinspot.

Lastly if I picked my lights based on price I could see your point. I do not though. I purchase my lights like I purchase my cars. Based on performance, reliability, function and somewhere in the rear, price.

To each their own. Bottom line though the Swarm 5FX does more.

We all agree that the ONLY thing the Kinta does is multi colored LED's correct?

Correct! But I guess it's good for bringing the kids to Elementary School or those Gay parades!

Ford Explorer here!

No that is not all it does it has a strobe effect for each individual color beam for me it is more intelligent than the swarm 5 fx. Simplicity is better. The swarm 5 fx is overkill. Too much going on in 1 light the actual effect just gets lost👎🏻

i don't have kids👍🏻

agreed Chixxx…….you most defiantly have a point, but IMHO deejdave is correct






man listen ,i don't like fords neither son


all this talk about kinta vs swarm…….man listen the GigBar kills them both
www.pssl.com!NyS8OKiIIhijBfh2x8SV0Q!/Chauvet-GigBAR-IRC-Light-Effects-wStand-Remote-s?kpid=75081&gclid=CP2LwKComsUCFfRr7Aoda3EAoA

damn quote fail


www.americanmusical.com

gigbar is dope but those derby's are pretty much like mini kinta's just smaller. If that gigbar came with two mini kinta's I'd buy that in a heart beat👌🏻

Meant to post the video ->youtu.be

real talk i will be selling my swarm fx5's for $25 more than i payed for them, than buying two GigBars

That parade tho!









Lol j/k I appreciate that link

i have to agree and I think that's a better idea. If you get a swarm 5 fx you won't be satisfied for long with it. The effect it gives is just rather boring they are too small of beams to even look cool. At the price of the swarm 5 fx it is not worth it. You could get two derby's or kinta's and have the same effect as the gigbar all you need is the washers. The kinta's already have a built in strobe effect. You will be saving a lot of money. Just sayin

Soon as I get my mini kinta I will personally do a demo displaying how bad ass they really are. I wish I could test both the swarm 5 fx and kinta but I would not even pay $220 for a swarm 5fx that is ridiculous.

You miss SOO much. Now The Kinta has the same as the gigbar minus JUST the wash? C'mon now you can;t be for real??

all Damn, did i just walk into that one?……..lol


man listen i'm very satisfied with the swarm but the GigBar is just a better effect it's 4 in 1 vs the swarm 3 in one…….plus i'm making $50 profit on both

Wait you advocating for the kinta & you don't even own it?……come on son you can fit like 60 of them jawns in that new kia & you don't have one


all man your disqualified tecniq

Seriously the swarm 5fx looks like a bunch of confetti was thrown on the floor.. Hardly and spread at all! Terrible looking effect for the price.

i payed $125 for my swarms

Dude, we get your point lol

You realize most of us have already had the Kinta (derby) effect at one point in our lives being the derby effect is over 20 years old which is directly why I have such praise for the Swarm.

Again I prefer intelligent lighting but if I HAD to suggest a cheap light it would be the Swarm.

I also find it interesting you are fighting for it so much yet you don't even own it yet. Sounds like your "Numark NV shits all over the .............." all over it again.

LMAO Tecniq strikes again!!!

Dude the 2 LEDs that come with a gigbar are Derby's they are almost identical to the Mini Kinta but smaller... Yes I know what I'm talking about do you?

i have not used a derby effect in over 20 years……but that GigBar is calling me……lol

lol
nm

fixed

.................................. and what about the rest. I didn't say you were wrong about the derby effect. I am saying you are wrong for thinking the ONLY thing the Kinta lacks in comparison to the gigbar is the wash. All about context here..........................

I don't have a kinta so what is your point? The fact I've seen them live at a club isn't a good enough excuse? The fact I was blown away by one small little light that had the coverage of almost 2? The fact it produced big coverage on a dance floor and not a dip n dots effect.. Please take your hate somewhere else✋🏻

If you've seen them both in action, then I will take your word for it. I'm just looking at some videos. lol

nm

usually what happens when Chixxx joins the conversation……just saying

Here's a great comparison. Look how much wider one kinta is...you be the judge. Lasers are weak compared to that kinta. To each their own👍🏻
Watchm.youtube.com

The obsession runs deep. :)

Click the X

nm

i get that tec but add two swarms & problem solved

That lil $80 kinta is owning that swarm😂 go ahead and pay $220 for that garbage you'll be kicking yourself after.

man you just don't listen……


I PAYED $120 for my swarms Brand New In the box delivered

Why two? Because one swarm isn't good enough? Not bright enough? Not wide enough. You're damn right👍🏻

excuse me $125

did i just walk in to tha again……damn it……lol

Even if the Swarm cost the same as the Kinta... looks to me (from the videos) that the Kinta has a better output.

nm

cool story

We know. Click the X

:)

nm

Lemmie find out dude is selling me your old stuff...

>:-(

lmao.

lol - thought JM swore to never touch a light?

Wow, ok..

What you do on your own time is none of our bizznizz..

Stick to the subject matter pleaze...

Mini Kinta has the best bang for your buck especially the IRC model so you can control functions without DMX.....but the Swarm is definitely a better overall fixture.

100% agree

>:-(

Stay tuned...

LMAO


see that …….keep playing misquoting & i will tell my contact not to give you those good prices…….you sumofb!tch…….

i won't front that was funny as hell i'm LMAO here

Whew...

word now he buys two

Joee you got the Swarm 5 FX for that price????????????

yes two of them 125 each

Again Pdidy and I put it best -



So this is Joee's fault....

Yeah he marked mine up to 165 apiece, and skimmed off the top...

165 is still a damn good price.

That's insane lol...being that I probably will never take mine out of the house I probably go with the Mini Kinta's IRC......moving heads when I gig....although I may just include those when I gig small parties for the cheap clientele

making the call right now hold on



..yea..was up man, yea you remember that dude from jersey i told you about? yea that one, listen charge that dude retail from now on, ok cool yea he wants some zxa5 make sure you charge him $1,699, alright peace..


ok i'm back…….be prepared to pat retail son you @ssed out now JM

Well. Yup.

Rental wins tho

****calls dude - Yo man, please CANCEL that 6K order I was talking to you about...GC matched the price and threw in some free Mini Kintas....

Thanks!

man you know damn well GC is not trowing in no kintas or selling you two zxa5 & two 18" for $6,000


but i can get them to you cheaper than 6k…….just saying

nothing wrong wit rentals


you can go to GC in cherry hill NJ rent a ls801p for 7 days & the will only charge you for 3 days……..so you can keep for a week & pay $180

Yeah, I know a guy.... :-D

can you hook me up? i'm sayin i need that…….i buy gear like


man listen….. you already know……ask dude

You know what I dislike about most of these Youtube videos you guys put the links up to? The video camera is looking at the light directly facing it. I don't wanna see what it looks like from that perspective because it doesn't show me anything. I wanna see videos of what the lighting effect looks like from the perspective of the dj booth looking out, so I can see the fill of the light, the coverage, the effect, etc. Doesn't do me any good looking at a bunch of colored rays.

I get what you mean, unfortunately most demo vids are done buy users in their living room and not a large venue were theres room to see the effects and coverage on walls ,ceilings and floors.

your 100 correct, check this vid @ 2:20
Watchwww.youtube.com

And the fact that most of them use fog. Most of my gigs don't allow fog. I would like to see without fog to see what it actually displays on the ground.

You're right..I've seen the Kinta's without fog....it's just a bunch of dots...squares...whatever lol...

Honestly the only thing that looks good without fog is Gobo's/Wash Lights.....IMO

Yes I'm not a fan of dot fixtures but these do look good without fog....a DJ had them at my work Christmas party and I was pleasantly surprised.

www.chauvetlighting.com

I think these will be great for the fast effective setup.

Good point. I haven't used fog machine in over a decade.

nm

Reading this thread, I went out to GC and bought a Swarm and used it at a wedding gig last night (no fog - not allowed at venue). The effect was.......Meh. Not because of its design, but because the venue was not dark enough for all the lasers and the color dots to really stand out. I had asked the staff to turn down the lights but at the dimmest settings allowed, the room still wasn't dark enough.

When I tested the light at home after I bought it, of course I tried it in a pitch dark room in the house so my reaction was "oh wow this light is pretty neat for $220!"

At the wedding, I did have a pair of gobo moving heads to complement the Swarm so at least there were some other effects going on. So for those of you looking to buy the Swarm, keep in mind about the whole venue lighting and degree of darkness factor.

agreed, but i think the same can be said for just about any fixture that offers these effects

I know a guy who can get you a killer deal....:-)

How far were the lights away from the area where you wanted it to show?

deals so good, make you wanna slap your mam'a

Watchwww.youtube.com

The light was on a T-bar raised about 6.5 feet high.....pointed at the dancefloor less than 10 feet away.

should of got the mini kinta lol😂

I have two of those!

Yo, let's talk about that for a min...

Who has the best price?

*******Allen Iverson******** cables man! we talking about cables man! come on man it's just cables! really cables! we talking about cables man?


www.ebay.com

Bag?

And while we're here didn't you have a link for the stands for the lights?

you should get dmx sticks man, makes life easier. I use them to master-slave my Swarm 5 Fx's.

this fit's two

www.bhphotovideo.com

you can see it's the same one they give you here
www.agiprodj.com

stand
www.proaudiostar.com

or you could keep it simple ,put them on your speaker stands with a o clamp
www.bhphotovideo.com

What are those?

I will probably get 2 single bags, as I really only see me using one at a time MOST of the time. For the gigs where I need 2, two bags are cool, plus it's easier to pack in the SUV.

I'll probably do some speaker testing as well in my travels today since I'll be roaming the city.....

Stay tuned....

www.guitarcenter.com

Where is this 20 bag?

www.guitarcenter.com

Joee, you slippin!!!

when it comes to deals, never that! bags & dmx cables cheaper
www.ebay.com

I want this bag tho...

www.chauvetlighting.com

i think there the same, just a logo change
www.ebay.com

Right, I want the logo with the Red....but that's not a bad deal, 2 bags with 2 15ft cables....Hmmm....

you should have asked for the bags when you got the lights, he probably would have save you a few bucks…..not much tho there just bags , either way show him the ebay link with the two bags/cables see if he will beat it

good only if you think a total of 30 ft is good enough for you

I'm sure they will be enough, but lemmie do some measurements...

you still on the road testing? or did you make it home? what do you think of some of the speakers tested?

I posted up in my other thread.

can serato make a lighting/pa section for these posts?

OH, btw... www.djjohnnym.com :-)

what are those two speaker stands to mount the swarm?

or are the for your speakers? since you want this to be a simple setup, you can mount the swarm to the speaker stand with a o clamp right under the speaker


or since your getting zxa5, you can actually mount the light to the top of the of the speaker from one of the zxa5 rigging points
www.manualslib.com


it makes for a nice clean look like this
Watchwww.youtube.com

You didn't see those two "C" clamps in that pic?

he gets a pass this is his first light in over 20 years…….lol



no i didn't c those c clamps ……how do you plan to mount the lights?

Yessir! I need to thank you and onetime1269 for that GREAT advice....

Salute!

Yep, paid an ONSITE VISIT to Joee's "contact" and put some things in motion...

Stay tuned... :-)

I just wanna clamp them onto the pole...lol..

you went to the store? i would actually buy online & let them ship it, if you buy from the store they will charge you tax……..not a big deal when your getting little stuff but when making big purchases it adds up

Say that *ish again...

So TRUTHFULLY, the lights were 330.00, plus 120.00 for 2 stands, 2 bags, 2 clamps and 2 15 foot DMX cables....so overall, I spend 450.00 bucks in lighting.....

WAYYYYY over my initial budget.....

Oh and Joee, I used this ->

Man look, it would have cost me MORE to have him ship it versus picking up stuff like this...

Trust, I'm a pro now.... :-D

You better believe it...

I ain't givin' nobody 5G's and not meeting them face to face....

not really tho! you would have paid that for just two lights from GC

did you drop my name……lol


you have to than say look he told me you beat all prices, i would have made him beat not match that ebay price……..lol

Then that's what I'll get!

Thank you sir!

Oh, we talked about you the entire time...

I didn't need to "drop" your name (like you're important...lmao) for any haggling tho...

He knew I meant business because I came up there with spreadsheets, spec printouts, and a set of brass knuckles....

You see the title of this thread?

did you peep the video that show how to mount it to the speaker? you can do that with the zxa5 also
Watchwww.youtube.com


did he tell you how much sh!t i buy……lol


dude i have personal phone numbers of employes , i get assistance after hours

were you going to beat a good deal out of him……lol

yea, but you already said you were going to buy a second for GC

Yeah, but I don't want to mount a light directly to a speaker...



No, that never came up...


So do I! Bwahahahahahaha...



You already know....

5G's ain't nuffin' to sneeze at..

But that was at the price of 330 for BOTH, you can't pass up a deal like that...

and actually, I DID say "Budget around 200.00 not including the stands"....so...

well i don't see what else you had to talk about….as all i do is buy buy buy


man I've spent $7,000 just on evox 8's alone since they came out, that don't include the other stuff

wait the rand debacle?……lol

rand = rane

My lips are sealed....
;-X.

Hmmm..let's see...

I spent 10g's on a Sweet Sixteen...
I spent ANOTHER 10g's on a NEW FURNANCE at the start of November, right BEFORE the Sweet Sixteen...
I spent 2G's on a MAC
Another 3G's on downpayment of a NEW car and 2 G's to fix up my old one to sell...
A few hundred bucks on some lights, and now 5G's on some speakers...

l'd say since November, I've got you beat buddy....

only thing could be the rane incident ……lol


i had posted my recipe of the first two i bought on preorder for $1,425 or was it ? damn that was so long ago i forgot what i payed …….anyway i'm famous in that store….lol


i'm no stranger to spending money……i bought i new car at the end of 2012 sticker was $38,000 i payed $31,000 i save money on more than just gear……tax made it $34,000…….


i now owe $6,000… should we talk about the gear that i bought in the last few months….lol

No.

Ok.


should we talk credit score……800+ here……lol

Mine is 750....only because I've been buying a lot of stuff lately...

This might be a dumb question but can you master slave a Swarm wash FX with a Swarm FX?

Whoa! Working to join the 800 club...