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Tunes you refuse to play

BIGG BEAR 4:07 PM - 18 April, 2015
The line has to be drawn somewhere and it's currently being drawn with this horrendous tune called cheerleader nope not playing it.
Last time this happened was with Beyoncé and drunk in love.
I would rather attempt to place a big pile of dogshit on the decks than either of the two above.
Where do you draw the line :)
The Despicable Nyan Cat 4:24 PM - 18 April, 2015
Any pop tune
DJ Val-BKNY11203 5:39 PM - 18 April, 2015
I hope you don't tell this to someone who is paying you to play.
Col1990 6:24 PM - 18 April, 2015
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I hope you don't tell this to someone who is paying you to play.

If it keeps em dancing who gives a fuck thats what i say
DJ Matty Stiles 6:57 PM - 18 April, 2015
Anything from pitbull or drake
 6 9:06 PM - 18 April, 2015
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I hope you don't tell this to someone who is paying you to play.


If we are talking mobile gigs, you're just a glorified jukebox anyway.

Now for clubs, bars and the like, I try to avoid playing anything below 70 BPM. And yes, there will be exceptions.

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Code:E 10:39 PM - 18 April, 2015
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Beyoncé and drunk in love.

I love that jam. Especially the diplo Remix. It goes off.

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Now for clubs, bars and the like, I try to avoid playing anything below 70 BPM. And yes, there will be exceptions.

Agreed. Some of it may be cool to play in you car. But not in the club.

Me I wont play "country", but other than that I will play most things at some point, but not every given night. Though a $100 bill changes that in a hurry.
 6 10:41 PM - 18 April, 2015
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Beyoncé and drunk in love.

I love that jam. Especially the diplo Remix. It goes off.

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Now for clubs, bars and the like, I try to avoid playing anything below 70 BPM. And yes, there will be exceptions.

Agreed. Some of it may be cool to play in you car. But not in the club.

Me I wont play "country", but other than that I will play most things at some point, but not every given night. Though a $100 bill changes that in a hurry.


I only play country at certain mobile gigs and at certain bars - but it's very very rare. It's one of those off requests of the night to be honest. Of course, it may be due to the fact that I choose my gigs wisely. lol

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slimmjimm 11:08 PM - 18 April, 2015
I really didn't mind playing Drunk in Love, not a great tune, but not even close to being anything by Bobby Shmurda.
DJMark 1:43 AM - 19 April, 2015
I steer away from stuff with what I consider to be excess negativity. Big Sean "I don't fuck..." for one recent example. Ludacris "Move Bitch" for one old example.

Anything with more than a few instances of the n-word.

Below 70bpm is an area I stay almost entirely out of, except for end of the night slow type stuff.
 6 3:46 AM - 19 April, 2015
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I really didn't mind playing Drunk in Love, not a great tune, but not even close to being anything by Bobby Shmurda.



hahaha. Indeed.

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djdalite 4:36 AM - 19 April, 2015
taylor swift
desmorider 7:01 AM - 19 April, 2015
Blowfly. Rap dirty......
Ha
Davideon 8:10 AM - 19 April, 2015
Usher. What a lame non entity
DJMark 10:25 AM - 19 April, 2015
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I guess you play in a place with no females.
DJ Baby Boy 11:20 AM - 19 April, 2015
Currently for me it's anything by Bobby Shmurda, CoCo and 99% of Lil Wayne and nothing less than $100 will change that.
Gio Alex 2:50 PM - 19 April, 2015
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If we are talking mobile gigs, you're just a glorified jukebox anyway.


^^^ Sorry, but this is true.


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Schmurda


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Anything from pitbull

I pretty much never have and never will.
Gio Alex 2:52 PM - 19 April, 2015
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Anything with more than a few instances of the n-word.


Yeah, I can agree with this. Especially getting older. There are tracks you listened and you're like, really!? Like Schmurda's hit track. I can't vouch for it or play it.
DJ Val-BKNY11203 2:54 PM - 19 April, 2015
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Anything with more than a few instances of the n-word.


Yeah, I can agree with this. Especially getting older. There are tracks you listened and you're like, really!? Like Schmurda's hit track. I can't vouch for it or play it.


Play the Instrumental & ride a acc over it.
Gio Alex 3:13 PM - 19 April, 2015
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Anything with more than a few instances of the n-word.


Yeah, I can agree with this. Especially getting older. There are tracks you listened and you're like, really!? Like Schmurda's hit track. I can't vouch for it or play it.


Play the Instrumental & ride a acc over it.


True!!!
 6 5:44 PM - 19 April, 2015
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I guess you play in a place with no females.


Make that young females because I never play this stuff unless it's an elementary school dance.

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Code:E 8:29 PM - 19 April, 2015
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I guess you play in a place with no females.


Make that young females because I never play this stuff unless it's an elementary school dance.

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Well normally I would agree. But a friend of mine (we do a battle set every Saturday now), made this when the some 1st came out. It did get some play Watchwww.youtube.com
The Despicable Nyan Cat 11:03 PM - 19 April, 2015


wut
DJ Reflex 11:13 PM - 19 April, 2015
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If we are talking mobile gigs, you're just a glorified jukebox anyway.


Oh no he didn't...

6, I'm a bit offended right now. lol
DJ Reflex 11:14 PM - 19 April, 2015
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Schmurda
Anaconda
coco


This!
DJMark 11:24 PM - 19 April, 2015
Add YG to the list...what a piece of work he must be.
DJMark 11:25 PM - 19 April, 2015
And of course Trinidad "Crack Baby" James.
 6 6:21 AM - 20 April, 2015
I don't have a problem with profanity but it has to have a purpose. Drake likes to say Nigga like 50 times in one song with no purpose. Same with a bunch of these new artists.

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 6 6:22 AM - 20 April, 2015
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If we are talking mobile gigs, you're just a glorified jukebox anyway.


Oh no he didn't...

6, I'm a bit offended right now. lol


hahaha

You know what I mean. You really don't have a choice in what you can and can't play. (To an extent)

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BARRY SCOTT 11:37 AM - 20 April, 2015
Hardstyle any of it, too much going on in the mid range to mix much else but into/outro, no swing to it at all, lousy minimal intro. Could you turn the reveb down by 90% please.

And it has absolutely has no right to call itself "Hard" it's camp.
Dj-M.Bezzle 3:58 PM - 20 April, 2015
I have no lines. If the majority of the crowd wants to hear it who am I to tell em different. I do appreciate all if you guys holding onto your intergrity, it's allowed me to make a steady living off playing the shit other DJs wont touch. I live in the 50 to 70 bpm badlands these days.
Gio Alex 4:48 PM - 20 April, 2015
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I do appreciate all if you guys holding onto your intergrity


That's the beauty of djing in a big city like NYC. I can do my own thing whilst leaving room for other djs to do their own thing as well. I have my crowd, my following and my own thing without being some juke box. I chose my gigs based on how much freedom I have to play. If it's a bridge and tunnel spot on a weekend, then I usually politely turn it down. I don't like headaches while djing. I like to have fun. lol
 6 5:47 PM - 20 April, 2015
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I do appreciate all if you guys holding onto your intergrity


That's the beauty of djing in a big city like NYC. I can do my own thing whilst leaving room for other djs to do their own thing as well. I have my crowd, my following and my own thing without being some juke box. I chose my gigs based on how much freedom I have to play. If it's a bridge and tunnel spot on a weekend, then I usually politely turn it down. I don't like headaches while djing. I like to have fun. lol


and this is my approach as well and I have steady gigs.

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Gio Alex 6:53 PM - 20 April, 2015
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I do appreciate all if you guys holding onto your intergrity


That's the beauty of djing in a big city like NYC. I can do my own thing whilst leaving room for other djs to do their own thing as well. I have my crowd, my following and my own thing without being some juke box. I chose my gigs based on how much freedom I have to play. If it's a bridge and tunnel spot on a weekend, then I usually politely turn it down. I don't like headaches while djing. I like to have fun. lol


and this is my approach as well and I have steady gigs.

nm


Exactly. You can please the majority of the crowd without losing your integrity. Some people can't always have what they want. LOL turn on the radio if you wanna here every new shitty song that's out.
Dj-M.Bezzle 6:58 PM - 20 April, 2015
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I do appreciate all if you guys holding onto your intergrity


That's the beauty of djing in a big city like NYC. I can do my own thing whilst leaving room for other djs to do their own thing as well. I have my crowd, my following and my own thing without being some juke box. I chose my gigs based on how much freedom I have to play. If it's a bridge and tunnel spot on a weekend, then I usually politely turn it down. I don't like headaches while djing. I like to have fun. lol


and this is my approach as well and I have steady gigs.

nm


Exactly. You can please the majority of the crowd without losing your crowd



Debatable, that really depends on what your integrity is VS what the crowd wants
Gio Alex 7:04 PM - 20 April, 2015
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I do appreciate all if you guys holding onto your intergrity


That's the beauty of djing in a big city like NYC. I can do my own thing whilst leaving room for other djs to do their own thing as well. I have my crowd, my following and my own thing without being some juke box. I chose my gigs based on how much freedom I have to play. If it's a bridge and tunnel spot on a weekend, then I usually politely turn it down. I don't like headaches while djing. I like to have fun. lol


and this is my approach as well and I have steady gigs.

nm


Exactly. You can please the majority of the crowd without losing your crowd



Debatable, that really depends on what your integrity is VS what the crowd wants


It IS debatable, but it also depends on where you play. Keep in mind I said "majority" not everyone. Some spots people have an open mind and a tasteful (which is subjective but you know what I mean) music palette, while others will tend to not have that sort of crowd. There are many ways of approach these sorts of things of course. As you already know.
Code:E 7:18 PM - 20 April, 2015
It's nice to hear so many of you care about lyrical content. I don't care as much, I really care about how the sounds of a song make you feel. Lyrics really only matter when the sing along parts come on (to me). IDFWU get lots of play because everyone loves to sing the course. But we also dont much much hip hop at all. We play more trap & dubstep than hiphop.

I have more of a problem playing videos that glorify gun use than I do some rapper saying N this F that. Hence my thread about A$AP Rock/ Skrillex - Wild for the Night.
Mr. Goodkat 7:20 PM - 20 April, 2015
i dont play edm anymore outside of some calvin harris songs since its easy to keep up with the biggest dude in the game..

electronic dance music that isnt danceable isnt my thing outside of a pop song here or there. say what you will about slow rap, but its been proven that kids dance to that. im yet to see anyone really dance to edm other than some girls swaying side to side, or bros jumping around in a circle, or somebody doing country line dance aerobics to it in TN via viral videos.
Gio Alex 7:23 PM - 20 April, 2015
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I have more of a problem playing videos that glorify gun use than I do some rapper saying N this F that.


The Schmurda track is a huge prob for me. The title alone is ignorant on mad levels. I saw a 6 year old kid on the street recite it. I'm not even gonna get into the lyrical content. I had some what did request it one night and be "can i say it?" I just smh. It's not his fault, but you say what the problem is with that track?
Gio Alex 7:27 PM - 20 April, 2015
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I have more of a problem playing videos that glorify gun use than I do some rapper saying N this F that.


The Schmurda track is a huge prob for me. The title alone is ignorant on mad levels. I saw a 6 year old kid on the street recite it. I'm not even gonna get into the lyrical content. I someone request it one night and say "can i say it?" I just smh. It's not his fault, but you say what the problem is with that track?


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Mr. Goodkat 7:31 PM - 20 April, 2015
its like white people get so much grief over using the (dreaded and feared) N-word, i can see why yall dont play those songs. but then its like people expect you to play those songs.

i gave up worrying about lyrical content in art(i know, you dont consider this art, but it falls into the category simply by being labeled music, which is art). Music that we play is the same pop culture that movies/tv/books are. if you see django or play it does it mean you love slavery? if you watch scarface or good fellas are you condoning violence or promoting drug use? those movies also portray negative stereotypes of italians and cubans? does that worry you?

does it worry you that many of the famous writers of the last 100 years(prob forever but for sake of more modern art) were drunks/drug addicts, that were a-holes and many time beat women?
Gio Alex 7:41 PM - 20 April, 2015
This is like one of those discussions I can't have while I'm at work and on the internet. I get a lot of the points you're making. But I have a huge prob when an entire song is about popping "n-words" and there's a six year old reciting it. I think you're oversimplifying a bigger issue here.

6 year olds are not watching goodfellas. But this song was on every damn station and all over youtube. Which is accessible to all.

and, negative stereotypes do bother me, no matter what, but the difference is bobby did that track. It's not others portraying the negative stereotypes. He's actually perpetuating it himself.
Mr. Goodkat 7:51 PM - 20 April, 2015
but you are playing the songs to adults not to 6 year olds. they all see those movies? porn? whatever else on the internet?
Gio Alex 8:01 PM - 20 April, 2015
It don't think you're getting me. I have a problem with the song it it's entirety. So why would I play it whether it's for adults or not? The whole point is songs you refuse to play and I have a problem with that song. I'm not gonna compromise my beliefs because I'm playing it for adults.
Mr. Goodkat 8:07 PM - 20 April, 2015
the rationale seems so misguided and naive to me. but you dont have to play anything you don't want to.
Code:E 8:08 PM - 20 April, 2015
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I have more of a problem playing videos that glorify gun use than I do some rapper saying N this F that.


The Schmurda track is a huge prob for me. The title alone is ignorant on mad levels. I saw a 6 year old kid on the street recite it. I'm not even gonna get into the lyrical content. I someone request it one night and say "can i say it?" I just smh. It's not his fault, but you say what the problem is with that track?


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I should say I don't play that track either. It sucks and no one around here wants to hear it.
Dj-M.Bezzle 8:13 PM - 20 April, 2015
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but you are playing the songs to adults not to 6 year olds. they all see those movies? porn? whatever else on the internet?

Exactly, there is NO point in trying to protect someone who is paying $350 for a $30 bottle of vodka and a chair from hearing ignorance.


Im old enough to grasp the reality that club djing isnt art and the people who hire arent looking for artists but it DOES generate cash which can be used for tools to create art and a platform to make the move to art. I'll play "hot boy" (as djcity labeled it) 15 times a night is the criwd wants it, get paid my $350, go buy some water color and get to work makin kitty prints lol
Gio Alex 8:18 PM - 20 April, 2015
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but you are playing the songs to adults not to 6 year olds. they all see those movies? porn? whatever else on the internet?

Exactly, there is NO point in trying to protect someone who is paying $350 for a $30 bottle of vodka and a chair from hearing ignorance.


Im old enough to grasp the reality that club djing isnt art and the people who hire arent looking for artists but it DOES generate cash which can be used for tools to create art and a platform to make the move to art. I'll play "hot boy" (as djcity labeled it) 15 times a night is the criwd wants it, get paid my $350, go buy some water color and get to work makin kitty prints lol



I get my money whether I play that or not. Hence me saying I chose to play at spots where I don't need to "sell out". Just because you don't mind and socially it doesn't bother you, doesn't mean that it doesn't affect me and I shouldn't have the right to not want to play. I don't want someone coming up to me thinking it's cool to use or call me the end word. For you it might be different.
Dj-M.Bezzle 8:26 PM - 20 April, 2015
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but you are playing the songs to adults not to 6 year olds. they all see those movies? porn? whatever else on the internet?

Exactly, there is NO point in trying to protect someone who is paying $350 for a $30 bottle of vodka and a chair from hearing ignorance.


Im old enough to grasp the reality that club djing isnt art and the people who hire arent looking for artists but it DOES generate cash which can be used for tools to create art and a platform to make the move to art. I'll play "hot boy" (as djcity labeled it) 15 times a night is the criwd wants it, get paid my $350, go buy some water color and get to work makin kitty prints lol



I get my money whether I play that or not. Hence me saying I chose to play at spots where I don't need to "sell out". Just because you don't mind and socially it doesn't bother you, doesn't mean that it doesn't affect me and I shouldn't have the right to not want to play. I don't want someone coming up to me thinking it's cool to use or call me the end word. For you it might be different.


Thats like saying your a chef but you wont serve a customer a steak because you dont want him to think its ok for him to kill you and eat you medium rare. The club shouldn't be a place to impress your values on people. If you can puck your gigs and get crowds who dont care then good on you but I think if its your job to please a crowd you should please the crowd. I dont think anyone is dumb enough to think "oh he played bobby schmurda, guess its ok to call him whatever I want now" especially with all the otherwords used in every other song.
beta one 8:48 PM - 20 April, 2015
RE: 6's comment "If we are talking mobile gigs, you're just a glorified jukebox anyway."

I do not agree with this at all. Any mobile gig I've ever done, might have a general "vibe" or "sound" the client is looking for, weddings will certainly have 'must-play' songs for their special dances, and themed parties will have their themed songs,but I have never, -ever- felt as though I was a glorified jukebox. Jukeboxes don't read crowds, group songs into appropriate sets, or know when they can push the boundaries and drop a bomb like "Save a horse, ride a cowboy", or do a full drop and slam into "Montell Jordan - This is how we do it" and watch the old-school throw-back crowd go nuts. My skill has taken years to hone, and is worth something much more than being a "human jukebox".

Incidentally, if a host insists you play something, you swallow your ego and play it; somehow. Incorporate it. I thought I'd NEVER play "#selfie", "the cha cha slide" or "YMCA" but damnit - people ask for that stuff all the time in mobile/corporate/jack-jill gigs, and they love it.

Some surprise floor-fillers for MY many gigs over the years have been "Hall and Oats - You make my dreams come true", "Ray Parker Jr. - Ghostbusters" and even (not surprising to many, I'm sure) "Boney M - Rasputin". I dropped a remix of Capital Cities' "Safe and Sound" the other week and surprised even myself with the reaction it got.

Anything really goes, in the mobile world, at least.

My $0.02
Gio Alex 8:48 PM - 20 April, 2015
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but you are playing the songs to adults not to 6 year olds. they all see those movies? porn? whatever else on the internet?

Exactly, there is NO point in trying to protect someone who is paying $350 for a $30 bottle of vodka and a chair from hearing ignorance.


Im old enough to grasp the reality that club djing isnt art and the people who hire arent looking for artists but it DOES generate cash which can be used for tools to create art and a platform to make the move to art. I'll play "hot boy" (as djcity labeled it) 15 times a night is the criwd wants it, get paid my $350, go buy some water color and get to work makin kitty prints lol



I get my money whether I play that or not. Hence me saying I chose to play at spots where I don't need to "sell out". Just because you don't mind and socially it doesn't bother you, doesn't mean that it doesn't affect me and I shouldn't have the right to not want to play. I don't want someone coming up to me thinking it's cool to use or call me the end word. For you it might be different.


Thats like saying your a chef but you wont serve a customer a steak because you dont want him to think its ok for him to kill you and eat you medium rare. The club shouldn't be a place to impress your values on people. If you can puck your gigs and get crowds who dont care then good on you but I think if its your job to please a crowd you should please the crowd. I dont think anyone is dumb enough to think "oh he played bobby schmurda, guess its ok to call him whatever I want now" especially with all the otherwords used in every other song.


It's not the same and yes I can. I'm assuming you're white, right or wrong? and I'm not taking this in a messed up or insulting direction so bare with me. I have a problem with that word right. Especially if you have a song labeled Hot N, then the entire song is about killing "N", yeah it's a prob and I wont play it. I don't give two fucks about anything beyond that. I fortunately work at spots that not only are the owners not into that particular track, but I also DO NOT have to play tunes for scraps. If you have to that's on you and that's your hustle, I respect it. Doesn't mean that everything is cool under the sun once money is involved. This is why I play where I play and I do what I do. I also have a great paying day job which allows me to be choosy about what I choose to do as far as gigs. I never once said I won't give people what they want but I have a prob with that track. Don't try to downplay it because you can't understand why.

I wouldn't expect you to understand it. It's okay. But it's not as simple as you put it.
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but you are playing the songs to adults not to 6 year olds. they all see those movies? porn? whatever else on the internet?

Exactly, there is NO point in trying to protect someone who is paying $350 for a $30 bottle of vodka and a chair from hearing ignorance.


Im old enough to grasp the reality that club djing isnt art and the people who hire arent looking for artists but it DOES generate cash which can be used for tools to create art and a platform to make the move to art. I'll play "hot boy" (as djcity labeled it) 15 times a night is the criwd wants it, get paid my $350, go buy some water color and get to work makin kitty prints lol



I get my money whether I play that or not. Hence me saying I chose to play at spots where I don't need to "sell out". Just because you don't mind and socially it doesn't bother you, doesn't mean that it doesn't affect me and I shouldn't have the right to not want to play. I don't want someone coming up to me thinking it's cool to use or call me the end word. For you it might be different.


Thats like saying your a chef but you wont serve a customer a steak because you dont want him to think its ok for him to kill you and eat you medium rare. The club shouldn't be a place to impress your values on people. If you can puck your gigs and get crowds who dont care then good on you but I think if its your job to please a crowd you should please the crowd. I dont think anyone is dumb enough to think "oh he played bobby schmurda, guess its ok to call him whatever I want now" especially with all the otherwords used in every other song.


It's not the same and yes I can. I'm assuming you're white, right or wrong? and I'm not taking this in a messed up or insulting direction so bare with me. I have a problem with that word right. Especially if you have a song labeled Hot N, then the entire song is about killing "N", yeah it's a prob and I wont play it. I don't give two fucks about anything beyond that. I fortunately work at spots that not only are the owners not into that particular track, but I also DO NOT have to play tunes for scraps. If you have to that's on you and that's your hustle, I respect it. Doesn't mean that everything is cool under the sun once money is involved. This is why I play where I play and I do what I do. I also have a great paying day job which allows me to be choosy about what I choose to do as far as gigs. I never once said I won't give people what they want but I have a prob with that track. Don't try to downplay it because you can't understand why.

I wouldn't expect you to understand it. It's okay. But it's not as simple as you put it.

Oh, im nottaking this as insulting at all, just a discussion :). Yup, im white, so since you have a problem with that word you refrain from playing any songs with it, right?
Gio Alex 9:17 PM - 20 April, 2015
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For the most part I do, but there's edited versions of songs, but it's beyond that. You do realize he rhymes every bar with "nigga" by saying "nigga" right? There's a huge difference btwn that and bleeping the word out 2-3 times in a song. The whole basis of the song is founded on that word. The whole structure. You're still trynna simplify it. Even the title itself, which goes back to someone requesting has to say it to me. Like the dude I explained to you who was like "Can I say it, I could say it right?" lol

I see what you're trynna do here lol but you forget what the title of this thread was. "Tunes you refuse to play" and I named one.
beta one 9:19 PM - 20 April, 2015
I won't play anything with blatant swearing or direct lewdness in it. I don't like the possibility that clientele may associate -me- with the artists' particular word and content choices. I always snag the radio-safe edits for mobile gigs or edit them myself as required. I want to play "Azealia Banks' - 212" so badly sometimes, cuz I think that production and vibe is tight... but the edited, clean version has almost no lyrics left! hah!
Gio Alex 9:21 PM - 20 April, 2015
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This is sort of what I'm getting at. There's curses here and there, and then theree's blatant ignorance to the point you're like wtf is going on here, I can't play this shit.
 6 9:46 PM - 20 April, 2015
It's okay not to agree with me. The few weddings I DJ a year are exactly chosen because they don't really expect me to go off a list. I'm saying, the majority of weddings though... (And some private parties too), they don't expect the DJ to do much and most wedding DJ's don't - which is why I don't consider myself a wedding DJ.

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 6 9:48 PM - 20 April, 2015
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I won't play anything with blatant swearing or direct lewdness in it. I don't like the possibility that clientele may associate -me- with the artists' particular word and content choices.


This is sort of what I'm getting at. There's curses here and there, and then theree's blatant ignorance to the point you're like wtf is going on here, I can't play this shit.


Im telling you. Drake is famous for throwing "nigga" without a purpose. It has to have a purpose. Any sort of profanity has to have some purpose. Just saying nigga in between every other word is just ignorant and doesn't really add anything to the track.

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Dj-M.Bezzle 9:50 PM - 20 April, 2015
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I won't play anything with blatant swearing or direct lewdness in it. I don't like the possibility that clientele may associate -me- with the artists' particular word and content choices. I always snag the radio-safe edits for mobile gigs or edit them myself as required. I want to play "Azealia Banks' - 212" so badly sometimes, cuz I think that production and vibe is tight... but the edited, clean version has almost no lyrics left! hah!

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It's okay not to agree with me. The few weddings I DJ a year are exactly chosen because they don't really expect me to go off a list. I'm saying, the majority of weddings though... (And some private parties too), they don't expect the DJ to do much and most wedding DJ's don't - which is why I don't consider myself a wedding DJ.

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Totally understandable for mobiles, clubs are a different beast imho
Gio Alex 9:50 PM - 20 April, 2015
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I won't play anything with blatant swearing or direct lewdness in it. I don't like the possibility that clientele may associate -me- with the artists' particular word and content choices.


This is sort of what I'm getting at. There's curses here and there, and then theree's blatant ignorance to the point you're like wtf is going on here, I can't play this shit.


Im telling you. Drake is famous for throwing "nigga" without a purpose. It has to have a purpose. Any sort of profanity has to have some purpose. Just saying nigga in between every other word is just ignorant and doesn't really add anything to the track.

nm


You're right about drake tho. He drops n bombs for like no reason at all. Like any chance he gets. Lol
 6 9:51 PM - 20 April, 2015
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I won't play anything with blatant swearing or direct lewdness in it. I don't like the possibility that clientele may associate -me- with the artists' particular word and content choices. I always snag the radio-safe edits for mobile gigs or edit them myself as required. I want to play "Azealia Banks' - 212" so badly sometimes, cuz I think that production and vibe is tight... but the edited, clean version has almost no lyrics left! hah!

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Totally understandable for mobiles, clubs are a different beast imho


Most clubs, yes. There are those few clubs where the manager or owner thinks he's the DJ lol

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Gio Alex 9:57 PM - 20 April, 2015
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It's okay not to agree with me. The few weddings I DJ a year are exactly chosen because they don't really expect me to go off a list. I'm saying, the majority of weddings though... (And some private parties too), they don't expect the DJ to do much and most wedding DJ's don't - which is why I don't consider myself a wedding DJ.

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Totally understandable for mobiles, clubs are a different beast imho


Most clubs, yes. There are those few clubs where the manager or owner thinks he's the DJ lol

nm


Truth!
DJ Reflex 9:58 PM - 20 April, 2015
Integrity... Ahhh, the interpretations of this one.

I too applaud the DJs here who have a sense of integrity for not playing certain songs based on their morals/beliefs/cultures/whatever. I also appreciate Bezzle's willingness to fill in the gaps where other DJs cut out. That's good business.
Doing mostly mobile wedding gigs and school dances, I have to edit my music and choose songs appropriately for the age group and clientele. The obvious cut are songs with swears or suggestive content. The rest ore personal choices of ignorant stuff that will be out of style and forgotten in three weeks (most Lil Wayne or Drake songs).
As far as mobile DJs being jukeboxes... while 6 has a small point about catering to the client, I also agree with beta one saying that it took years to craft my style and bring my skills to the table. You guys hunt down clubs and bars for business. I attend expos and hand pick my clients. I will gladly pass on a bride who is looking for "country night" at her wedding. I tell schools what I think of their playlists and let them decide whether or not they still want to hire me. (To put this into perspective, I've been doing this for 21 years and have never lost a school gig for not playing their set list of music.)
Do I have to bite the bullet sometimes - sure, but for the most part I get hired for what I can bring to the gig. Not to be a human jukebox for an iPod playlist.
djsmuve415 10:39 PM - 20 April, 2015
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I too applaud the DJs here who have a sense of integrity for not playing certain songs based on their morals/beliefs/cultures/whatever. I also appreciate Bezzle's willingness to fill in the gaps where other DJs cut out. That's good business.

these are seemingly 2 different subjects lumped into one thing on here IMO... Not playing something like Taylor Swift cuz u hate her & her music is one thing,, not playing a track (or tracks) cuz it offends u in some way, & u take a moral stand is different.
I mean - I'm half jewish, I won't play 99 Luftballoons or Falco's Der Kommissar for anything at all.


I'm kidding btw...
my sense of P.C. went out the window a long time ago, I just don't care anymore... but I do respect dudes who hold true to their values. it's their right.
Gio Alex 10:50 PM - 20 April, 2015
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I mean - I'm half jewish, I won't play 99 Luftballoons or Falco's Der Kommissar for anything at all.


I'm kidding btw...


That was pretty funny, not gonna lie.
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but I do respect dudes who hold true to their values. it's their right.


and thanks.
 6 11:57 PM - 20 April, 2015
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Integrity... Ahhh, the interpretations of this one.

I too applaud the DJs here who have a sense of integrity for not playing certain songs based on their morals/beliefs/cultures/whatever. I also appreciate Bezzle's willingness to fill in the gaps where other DJs cut out. That's good business.
Doing mostly mobile wedding gigs and school dances, I have to edit my music and choose songs appropriately for the age group and clientele. The obvious cut are songs with swears or suggestive content. The rest ore personal choices of ignorant stuff that will be out of style and forgotten in three weeks (most Lil Wayne or Drake songs).
As far as mobile DJs being jukeboxes... while 6 has a small point about catering to the client, I also agree with beta one saying that it took years to craft my style and bring my skills to the table. You guys hunt down clubs and bars for business. I attend expos and hand pick my clients. I will gladly pass on a bride who is looking for "country night" at her wedding. I tell schools what I think of their playlists and let them decide whether or not they still want to hire me. (To put this into perspective, I've been doing this for 21 years and have never lost a school gig for not playing their set list of music.)
Do I have to bite the bullet sometimes - sure, but for the most part I get hired for what I can bring to the gig. Not to be a human jukebox for an iPod playlist.


You have integrity and for that I applaud you. I think it's also self respect or doing something you love because you love it (and it pays) and not because it's their way or the highway.

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Dj-M.Bezzle 2:34 AM - 21 April, 2015
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It's okay not to agree with me. The few weddings I DJ a year are exactly chosen because they don't really expect me to go off a list. I'm saying, the majority of weddings though... (And some private parties too), they don't expect the DJ to do much and most wedding DJ's don't - which is why I don't consider myself a wedding DJ.

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Totally understandable for mobiles, clubs are a different beast imho


Most clubs, yes. There are those few clubs where the manager or owner thinks he's the DJ lol

nm


Truth!

Cosign lol
Dj-M.Bezzle 2:36 AM - 21 April, 2015
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I too applaud the DJs here who have a sense of integrity for not playing certain songs based on their morals/beliefs/cultures/whatever. I also appreciate Bezzle's willingness to fill in the gaps where other DJs cut out. That's good business.

these are seemingly 2 different subjects lumped into one thing on here IMO... Not playing something like Taylor Swift cuz u hate her & her music is one thing,, not playing a track (or tracks) cuz it offends u in some way, & u take a moral stand is different.
I mean - I'm half jewish, I won't play 99 Luftballoons or Falco's Der Kommissar for anything at all.


I'm kidding btw...
my sense of P.C. went out the window a long time ago, I just don't care anymore... but I do respect dudes who hold true to their values. it's their right.



LOL Im glad you clarified that you were playing because i was just about to hit google to find out what was wrong with those songs lol!!! Im sure that woulda been a mood killa
beta one 5:06 AM - 21 April, 2015
"99 Luftballoons" is still a knockout with the chickky crowds, when they wanna get their 80's groove on!
Mr. Goodkat 5:09 AM - 21 April, 2015
cant imagine anyone under 40 wanting to hear that.
beta one 5:11 AM - 21 April, 2015
nor can I :) like I said.. 80's.
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Michael R 5:22 AM - 21 April, 2015
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cant imagine anyone under 40 wanting to hear that.

I'm 36 and want to hear that :P
Mr. Goodkat 5:32 AM - 21 April, 2015
35+ is the same as 40, get used to it granpa :P
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Michael R 5:33 AM - 21 April, 2015
You sound like my wife.
 6 5:34 AM - 21 April, 2015
lol
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Michael R 5:36 AM - 21 April, 2015
lol, haven't been on the forums for a while so forgot the obligatory nm.

nm.
 6 5:50 AM - 21 April, 2015
I almost misquoted that. Damn it. Missed opportunity lol

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Gio Alex 6:06 PM - 21 April, 2015
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It is not so much about the language with me... it is more about the negative energy and negative vibe that I prefer to avoid.


I seen some really rowdy stuff happen based on the music selection.
Mr. Goodkat 6:17 PM - 21 April, 2015
i would say maybe 1% of all fights at any club/bar have to do with music. maybe .00001%
Mr. Goodkat 6:35 PM - 21 April, 2015
actually ill go with .000000000000001% fights in bars have to do with music.

its a product of knuckleheads, booze and ignorance mixed along poor security and overcrowding by the venue(poor mgmt).


this is something you are making up in your mind because you dont understand or like the music, which is fine, but culture changes.

still, im not saying playing anything you want gio.

clearly you want your moral high ground to be some how rewarded or commended by 'not selling out'. its seemed that way for a while, but when you realize, 'who am i too dictate my morals or personal feelings about social issues in lyrics, im just here to start a party for mainstream people that like mainstream music' its makes more sense.

i actually lost a job for not playing 'birthday song'(kanye/2 chainz) because it didnt fit the vibe of a room and the mgmt didnt condone it either.

The bottom line for a lot of these bars is money, if you want to make money for your bar that wants to make money, NOT be a super cool lounge or mixology bar, etc, you have to take in to the account what music can potentially get the most amount of people to the bar and then make them drink.

if you have none of these considerations, money, bringing lots people, greedy owners, you can sit back and do what you want, but thinking you are better than others because you are not playing this song with a N word here because its used like this, but its ok if its used like this, is what people make fun of liberals for. and im a liberal.

music is entertainment not some real life non fiction. rick ross was a prison guard not a drug dealer. i don't play to 6 year olds, that can't discern that, i play to adults and if they cannot understand that its entertainment, well thats on them.
Gio Alex 6:40 PM - 21 April, 2015
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i would say maybe 1% of all fights at any club/bar have to do with music. maybe .00001%


This guy. You're always quick to answer without really thinking things through. You only consider your experience and what you think, without really processing different scenarios or experiences.

What's your deal anyway?
Gio Alex 6:43 PM - 21 April, 2015
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its a product of knuckleheads, booze and ignorance mixed along poor security and overcrowding by the venue(poor mgmt).


Mixed with knuckle head jams is like fuel to an amped crowd. You act like I'm new to this or I play church music. Are you mad that you'll do anything for a buck and I don't have to? Or is it that your ego does not allow you to think outside of your narrow vision? Please enlighten me.
kid-dee 6:49 PM - 21 April, 2015
You must play if you want the pay
Dj-M.Bezzle 6:57 PM - 21 April, 2015
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its a product of knuckleheads, booze and ignorance mixed along poor security and overcrowding by the venue(poor mgmt).


Mixed with knuckle head jams is like fuel to an amped crowd. You act like I'm new to this or I play church music. Are you mad that you'll do anything for a buck and I don't have to? Or is it that your ego does not allow you to think outside of your narrow vision? Please enlighten me.



I play to packed crowds of drunkards and play nothing but knucklehead music. You just have to read your crowd and know when to play and when to ease it up. Or mabye Mobile Al just has more sophisticated crowds than where your at so they dont fight over sillydance music
Gio Alex 6:59 PM - 21 April, 2015
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its a product of knuckleheads, booze and ignorance mixed along poor security and overcrowding by the venue(poor mgmt).


Mixed with knuckle head jams is like fuel to an amped crowd. You act like I'm new to this or I play church music. Are you mad that you'll do anything for a buck and I don't have to? Or is it that your ego does not allow you to think outside of your narrow vision? Please enlighten me.



I play to packed crowds of drunkards and play nothing but knucklehead music. You just have to read your crowd and know when to play and when to ease it up. Or mabye Mobile Al just has more sophisticated crowds than where your at so they dont fight over sillydance music


I totally get that though. No one was ever saying you play a song and bam, there's a shootout. I don't even play at rowdy spots. All I was saying is it has an influence and i've seen it happened. Of course it's fueled by alcohol. Geez! lol
Mr. Goodkat 7:04 PM - 21 April, 2015
No deal, your arguments just suck for why you don't play certain things. You just don't like them and the venue you play at doesn't like them. No need to be holier than thou.
kid-dee 7:04 PM - 21 April, 2015
When you play at gigs you don't play for yourself you play for the crowd. So if there is a song you don't want to play but they want you to just play it and get it out your system. You never know it might grow on you just for that moment.
Dj-M.Bezzle 7:06 PM - 21 April, 2015
youtu.be

youtu.be

youtu.be


all these thugs and their negatively. I was on the edge of my seat waiting for fights to pop off!
 6 7:09 PM - 21 April, 2015
I've seen plenty of fights started with Lil Jon's What You Gon' Do

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DJMark 7:22 PM - 21 April, 2015
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When you play at gigs you don't play for yourself you play for the crowd.


Actually my primary responsibility as a DJ is to the club owners.

Long-term business goals, including concerns over what kind of crowd is showing up to the place on a regular basis and how they behave, are a hell of a lot more important than if a few random skanks try to get me to play something like Bobby Shmurda.
kid-dee 7:27 PM - 21 April, 2015
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When you play at gigs you don't play for yourself you play for the crowd.


Actually my primary responsibility as a DJ is to the club owners.

Long-term business goals, including concerns over what kind of crowd is showing up to the place on a regular basis and how they behave, are a hell of a lot more important than if a few random skanks try to get me to play something like Bobby Shmurda.


You are 100% correct but sometimes you make sacrafices.
Dj-M.Bezzle 7:28 PM - 21 April, 2015
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When you play at gigs you don't play for yourself you play for the crowd.


Actually my primary responsibility as a DJ is to the club owners.

Long-term business goals, including concerns over what kind of crowd is showing up to the place on a regular basis and how they behave, are a hell of a lot more important than if a few random skanks try to get me to play something like Bobby Shmurda.



Ya, what kinda owner would want a club full of people having fun doing a silly dance. Shit must be stopped!!
kid-dee 7:30 PM - 21 April, 2015
If everybody in the club is doing a silly dance then they all are drunk
Dj-M.Bezzle 7:33 PM - 21 April, 2015
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If everybody in the club is doing a silly dance then they all are drunk

And noone wants that! Women who partake in the bottle are tempted thoughts of lust. We must perserve chastity!!
Dj-M.Bezzle 7:34 PM - 21 April, 2015
Thats why I dont play miley cirus wrecking ball. I'll just be playing the sing and college girls will break out construction equipment and begin leveling the facilities
Gio Alex 7:34 PM - 21 April, 2015
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No deal, your arguments just suck for why you don't play certain things. You just don't like them and the venue you play at doesn't like them. No need to be holier than thou.


You know how I know you have trouble reading and comprehending? The subject of this thread is "song you refuse to play", I name one song and some of the reasoning behind me not wanting to play. For instance, not having someone say the n word to me. Or thinking I'm cool with it. It's a legitimate reason. That makes me holier than thou? Really? I'm not the only one. So we're all holier than though?

Just because you can't understand it doesn't mean it's a stupid reason. In fact, you're the one who's holier than though for thinking your reasoning is above all. Keep in mind. Songs you refuse the play is the topic. I play all sorts of music. I just don't wanna play that song.

It's not about being liberal or playing for 6 year olds.
Dj-M.Bezzle 7:37 PM - 21 April, 2015
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No deal, your arguments just suck for why you don't play certain things. You just don't like them and the venue you play at doesn't like them. No need to be holier than thou.


You know how I know you have trouble reading and comprehending? The subject of this thread is "song you refuse to play", I name one song and some of the reasoning behind me not wanting to play. For instance, not having someone say the n word to me.



Your logic is super faulty here


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I'm not the only one. So we're all holier than though?


Seems that way

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Just because you can't understand it doesn't mean it's a stupid reason.


Correct, there are loads of additional ways it is a stupid reason.
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It's not about being liberal or playing for 6 year olds.

Whats your problem with 6 year olds
DJMark 7:40 PM - 21 April, 2015
Some of this conversation reminds me of trying to describe
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When you play at gigs you don't play for yourself you play for the crowd.


Actually my primary responsibility as a DJ is to the club owners.

Long-term business goals, including concerns over what kind of crowd is showing up to the place on a regular basis and how they behave, are a hell of a lot more important than if a few random skanks try to get me to play something like Bobby Shmurda.


You are 100% correct but sometimes you make sacrafices.


Maybe you do, but I don't.

I certainly don't love every song I'm playing (especially if it's for the 1,000+th time), but I'm perfectly capable of setting standards and sticking to them.
DJMark 7:41 PM - 21 April, 2015
I was starting to say: some of this conversation reminds me of trying to describe the shade of blue in the sky to people who are colorblind.
Mr. Goodkat 7:44 PM - 21 April, 2015
Sometimes the club owners goal is making money. In that case you need to play things that are very popular to make money. Sometimes the club owner doent want it, clearly not every situation is the same.
DJMark 7:52 PM - 21 April, 2015
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I've never met a single club owner that didn't want to "make money" LOL.

You have just described a very short-term approach.

There are other approaches, involving more long-term planning/social engineering, that can lead to more sustained success and limit liabilities.
Gio Alex 7:55 PM - 21 April, 2015
My problem with 6 year olds? I have none. Not sure where you're coming from with that? lol @m.bezzle Goodkat brought it up several times in this thread.

It's okay man. I'm not gonna sweat it. I'm not the only one who mentioned having a prob with unnecessary use of n bombs (read through the thread it's there) but somehow you don't get that.
Gio Alex 7:56 PM - 21 April, 2015
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Sometimes the club owners goal is making money. In that case you need to play things that are very popular to make money.


I've never met a single club owner that didn't want to "make money" LOL.

You have just described a very short-term approach.

There are other approaches, involving more long-term planning/social engineering, that can lead to more sustained success and limit liabilities.


Someone with sense here rather than the narrow "it's all about money" approach. There are compromises and in betweens.
Mr. Goodkat 8:07 PM - 21 April, 2015
Just because you play 'those' type of songs doesn't mean you have to all night. I have residencies where I don't play any of that until 1245-1. We flip from the business professional crowd of 10-12:30,
to a rap younger crowd late.
Mr. Goodkat 8:08 PM - 21 April, 2015
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My problem with 6 year olds? I have none. Not sure where you're coming from with that? lol @m.bezzle Goodkat brought it up several times in this thread.

It's okay man. I'm not gonna sweat it. I'm not the only one who mentioned having a prob with unnecessary use of n bombs (read through the thread it's there) but somehow you don't get that.


You said that a 6 year old sang the song to you? Was it an error?
Gio Alex 8:11 PM - 21 April, 2015
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My problem with 6 year olds? I have none. Not sure where you're coming from with that? lol @m.bezzle Goodkat brought it up several times in this thread.

It's okay man. I'm not gonna sweat it. I'm not the only one who mentioned having a prob with unnecessary use of n bombs (read through the thread it's there) but somehow you don't get that.


You said that a 6 year old sang the song to you? Was it an error?


Yeah I don't have a problem with 6 year olds though. Did your read that question?
Dj-M.Bezzle 8:16 PM - 21 April, 2015
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It's okay man. I'm not gonna sweat it. I'm not the only one who mentioned having a prob with unnecessary use of n bombs (read through the thread it's there) but somehow you don't get that.


You said that a 6 year old sang the song to you? Was it an error?


youtu.be


youtu.be

youtu.be
Dj-M.Bezzle 8:17 PM - 21 April, 2015
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Its more like trying to tell someone who dosent like the vibe of sunlight how much fun people are having at the beach


BUT WHAT ABOUT SKIN CANCER!!!!
Gio Alex 8:20 PM - 21 April, 2015
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I do have a prob with that for sure. So I don't support the artist. What's the big deal?

Remember "Tunes you refuse to play"
Gio Alex 8:23 PM - 21 April, 2015
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I was starting to say: some of this conversation reminds me of trying to describe the shade of blue in the sky to people who are colorblind.

Its more like trying to tell someone who dosent like the vibe of sunlight how much fun people are having at the beach


BUT WHAT ABOUT SKIN CANCER!!!!


Really dude? Really?

Me not liking the N word should be viewed as me not letting people have fun? Thinking about that one for a sec. I'm not talking about a song that has your occasional n here n there. I'm talking about a track with "nigga" in the title and every single bar has "nigga" in it as the word he's rhyming. It's one song I have a prob with.

Keep in mind, I get paid lovely and do not get forced to play it or anything for that matter. The place is ALWAYS packed, everyone is still having a great time. What's the big deal here again?

Once again, "Tunes you refuse to play"

and I named one.
kid-dee 8:34 PM - 21 April, 2015
Most songs have a clean version and that word is bleeped out.
DJMark 8:34 PM - 21 April, 2015
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That's not even the point.
Gio Alex 8:39 PM - 21 April, 2015
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That's not even the point.


Exactly! lol
Code:E 8:43 PM - 21 April, 2015
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I seen some really rowdy stuff happen based on the music selection.

I hear you guys, But I just don't see it happening. Clearly a Mid size city in canada is a different market than bigger US city's. I feel like my opinion might be different if I work in the environments you guys work in.

OIn that note Punjabi MC - Beware the boys cause's issues if there are too many brown folk. They always ask it like 100 in 10 minutes. Then when you do play the half of them that where doing rails in the bathroom and missed the track come running up to you and demand you play it again. I tell them to go away unless they bring out the brown bills ($100 bill in Canada). I fucking hate to play the same song twice in a night.

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Actually my primary responsibility as a DJ is to the club owners.

Long-term business goals, including concerns over what kind of crowd is showing up to the place on a regular basis and how they behave, are a hell of a lot more important than if a few random skanks try to get me to play something like Bobby Shmurda.

+100000
DJMark 8:46 PM - 21 April, 2015
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That's actually a song I won't play because IMO it has a very high "annoyance" factor with a lot of people. Very very rare that anyone requests it though.
Code:E 8:53 PM - 21 April, 2015
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That's actually a song I won't play because IMO it has a very high "annoyance" factor with a lot of people. Very very rare that anyone requests it though.

Oh shit it pisses off lots of ignorant people for sure. But when its a long weekend and half the crowd is brown they all want to hear. On that note, one long weekend about a year ago a buddy of mine was playing with me anbd he played 2 or 3 other brown songs back to back with Beware the boys and its the only time the owner has ever come up to me and asked me not to play something because they get too crazy. So I will only ever play one track in a night for them and never when there's too many of them.
Mr. Goodkat 8:58 PM - 21 April, 2015
them, they, those people.
Mr. Goodkat 8:58 PM - 21 April, 2015
glad to see american passive aggressive racism has been welcomed in canada.
Code:E 9:06 PM - 21 April, 2015
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glad to see american passive aggressive racism has been welcomed in canada.

Yep.

Honestly I don't know what the politically correct term would be.
DJMark 9:09 PM - 21 April, 2015
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That's actually a song I won't play because IMO it has a very high "annoyance" factor with a lot of people. Very very rare that anyone requests it though.

Oh shit it pisses off lots of ignorant people for sure. But when its a long weekend and half the crowd is brown they all want to hear. On that note, one long weekend about a year ago a buddy of mine was playing with me anbd he played 2 or 3 other brown songs back to back with Beware the boys and its the only time the owner has ever come up to me and asked me not to play something because they get too crazy. So I will only ever play one track in a night for them and never when there's too many of them.


I'm not sure what you mean by "brown songs"... my issue with the Punjabi MC is annoyance-factor based on the sound of the song.

To get back to the "vibe" issue: Snoop Dogg has plenty of popular songs with n-bombs and "dirty words". He (usually) manages to pull it off with humor wit and style. The likes of YG and Shmurda give the impression that they just don't know many other words, and the attitude/vibe conveyed in their songs is completely lacking in humor/wit/style.

Plus my primary audience isn't people who just reached drinking age (or got in with fake ID).
Code:E 9:10 PM - 21 April, 2015
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Punjabi Music.
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That's not even the point.


Exactly! lol


Yup. I love it when kids at the elementary where I DJ regularly think it's okay to play some songs their parents let them listen to... lol

nm
Mr. Goodkat 9:15 PM - 21 April, 2015
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Yep.

Honestly I don't know what the politically correct term would be.



if half your crowd is south asian, tending to be Indian(which is what i assume you mean by brown), and you are playing nothing for them, and you play one song that is a hit. what do you expect? if you do it right, then you play 1 every hour or so throughout the night.

seriously doubt its all punjabs though. i guess white folks will be white folks. you realize there are a billion of them and about 30 million of you. oh well. it is to be expected.
Code:E 9:35 PM - 21 April, 2015
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seriously doubt its all punjabs though. i

I don't. There is a large population living in Surrey BC.
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i guess white folks will be white folks. you realize there are a billion of them and about 30 million of you. oh well. it is to be expected.

Oh yes. I know. I am the farthest thing from racist. but I also have grown up in a predominantly white community and don't deal with any minorities on a regular basis (besides the quebequoi).
Gio Alex 9:37 PM - 21 April, 2015
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glad to see american passive aggressive racism has been welcomed in canada.


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i guess white folks will be white folks. you realize there are a billion of them and about 30 million of you. oh well. it is to be expected.


Objecting to stereotyping while stereotyping... classic.


YEP! He's classic.
DJMark 9:42 PM - 21 April, 2015
Justin Bieber definitely needs a mention in this thread.
 6 9:47 PM - 21 April, 2015
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Justin Bieber definitely needs a mention in this thread.


lol

nm
DJ Reflex 10:01 PM - 21 April, 2015
OK - I feel like I'm about to enter the "real DJ game" here. I just booked 3 bar/club gigs this month. I did one last month for the first time in many years and it went like this...

I was set to play at 9. About 8:15 these dudes throw some coins in the juke box and select a bunch of 2 Live Crew songs. Quite a few people came up to me asking if I would turn it off. I responded that it was the jukebox, not me and that I didn't start for 45 minutes yet. They were clearly offended by the lyrical content. I have no problem with swears myself, but empathize with those who are uncomfortable listening to that stuff blaring through the venue. I didn't know who to direct their attention to - the guys who chocked the box full of quarters or the bar owner for letting it blast depute obvious objections from his patrons, or the proprietor of the juke for allowing those selections in the first place.
Either way, the owner shut it down and I fired up around 8:30ish anyway and made a few extra bucks for my time. Had fun and will make a return appearance in a week or so.

And no, I did not play any Justin Bieber tunes!
Mr. Goodkat 10:01 PM - 21 April, 2015
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glad to see american passive aggressive racism has been welcomed in canada.


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i guess white folks will be white folks. you realize there are a billion of them and about 30 million of you. oh well. it is to be expected.


Objecting to stereotyping while stereotyping... classic.



'white folks' is another way of not saying all white people but the ones that have no clue how racist they are being. i didnt say all white people in america did i? there is a huge race problem in the u.s. right?
Mr. Goodkat 10:14 PM - 21 April, 2015
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You can please the majority of the crowd without losing your integrity.


your integrity is 'gio's' integrity. dont make it like everyone else has such high personal morals

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Hence me saying I chose to play at spots where I don't need to "sell out".


not selling out, im playing to my crowd.

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You can please the majority of the crowd without losing your integrity


you can. and again my integrity is not yours.

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I saw a 6 year old kid on the street recite it.


YOUR SIX YEAR OLD QUOTE THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING. but you are the reason bezzle and i were rationalizing in the discussion.



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But I have a huge prob when an entire song is about popping "n-words" and there's a six year old reciting it.


again the 6 year old comment? are you even realizing what you are writing

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Especially if you have a song labeled Hot N, then the entire song is about killing "N", yeah it's a prob and I wont play it


this is art not law. people are not killing people everytime they hear a song, there are much bigger issues than music or movies.

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This is sort of what I'm getting at. There's curses here and there, and then theree's blatant ignorance to the point you're like wtf is going on here, I can't play this shit.


most pop songs are dumb, some people like the music that accompanies them and likes singing along

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My problem with 6 year olds? I have none. Not sure where you're coming from with that? lol @m.bezzle Goodkat brought it up several times in this thread.

It's okay man. I'm not gonna sweat it. I'm not the only one who mentioned having a prob with unnecessary use of n bombs (read through the thread it's there) but somehow you don't get that.




You said that a 6 year old sang the song to you? Was it an error?




Yeah I don't have a problem with 6 year olds though. Did your read that question?

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quote]My problem with 6 year olds? I have none. Not sure where you're coming from with that? lol @m.bezzle Goodkat brought it up several times in this thread.

see your (gio's) above quotes about 6 year olds singing the song. it was some sort of point or you wouldnt have used it as an example
Gio Alex 10:16 PM - 21 April, 2015
I don't have a problem with 6 year olds. I was literally answering the question. He asked what's your problem with 6 your olds. If he had asked what's your problem with 6 year olds saying the N word I would have gladly responded and explained. I already said that.
Gio Alex 10:20 PM - 21 April, 2015
If you're gonna be a smart ass learn how to use the quote button and read the entire thread. Once again, I am not the only one who has an issue with this.

Since you're so good at finding all my responses I suggest you keep reading through and find other examples of people having an issue with it as well. Not just me. Even if it was just me, I do have an issue with little kids learning that using it is okay. You obviously don't think it's a big deal since you're a moron.
Mr. Goodkat 10:20 PM - 21 April, 2015
u mad?
Gio Alex 10:22 PM - 21 April, 2015
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u mad?


Not really. I feel bad for you actually. I'm at work right now.

But I blame myself though for attempting to have a normal conversation with a moron.
Mr. Goodkat 10:24 PM - 21 April, 2015
your upset because you are flipping burgers not this discussion.
Mr. Goodkat 10:24 PM - 21 April, 2015
*you're
The Despicable Nyan Cat 10:25 PM - 21 April, 2015
What happened to this thread
Gio Alex 10:26 PM - 21 April, 2015
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your upset because you are flipping burgers not this discussion.


Lol, that's cute.

I'm an IT manager at a major production company. Far from flipping burgers. In fact, I've never flipped a burger before. Maybe you can tell me about that.
Mr. Goodkat 10:27 PM - 21 April, 2015
oh and don't say that n word now

twitter.com
Mr. Goodkat 10:28 PM - 21 April, 2015
but it is cool that you play with cousin cole. its not that i dont get what you saying, im just saying its not some eternal truth and you're are saving the planet and/or your integrity by not playing bobby schmurder.
Gio Alex 10:28 PM - 21 April, 2015
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What happened to this thread


Goodkat thinks me not wanting to play a song somehow makes me holier than thou. You'd think he'd be thankful because me not playing it leaves opportunities for him.
Gio Alex 10:30 PM - 21 April, 2015
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oh and don't say that n word now

twitter.com


Have you watched that episode? The episode is a great episode about race relations? Are you really that dumb man? Yikes.

You do understand what context means right. The "N" word unbleeped was not written by me. It's from the youtube vid.
Gio Alex 10:31 PM - 21 April, 2015
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but it is cool that you play with cousin cole. its not that i dont get what you saying, im just saying its not some eternal truth and you're are saving the planet and/or your integrity by not playing bobby schmurder.


Me not playing bobby schmurder has nothing to do with me "saving the planet" I personally have a prob with his music and I won't play it. So what!?

Back to the title of the thread "Tunes you refuse to play"


Are you schmurder's manager or something? What's it to you?
Serato, Forum Moderator
Michael R 10:32 PM - 21 April, 2015
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What happened to this thread

Exactly :'(
Mr. Goodkat 10:32 PM - 21 April, 2015
so mad. so mad.
Gio Alex 10:33 PM - 21 April, 2015
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so mad. so mad.


Not really. You're just dumb. You failed at making an N word reference by digging up a twitter post of me posting an 'All in the family' episode where it was used. SMH it's actually hilarious.
Mr. Goodkat 10:34 PM - 21 April, 2015
still mad.
Gio Alex 10:35 PM - 21 April, 2015
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still mad.


and you're still broke :)
 6 10:35 PM - 21 April, 2015
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oh and don't say that n word now

twitter.com


Uh oh. Stalker status.

nm
Mr. Goodkat 10:38 PM - 21 April, 2015
full stalker and broke status.
Gio Alex 10:38 PM - 21 April, 2015
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oh and don't say that n word now

twitter.com


Uh oh. Stalker status.

nm


Right!? I'm mad but this dude is digging up my twitter account though. Kinda sus if you ask me.
Gio Alex 10:40 PM - 21 April, 2015
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full stalker and broke status.


I'll give you all the gigs I turn down, you in? You live in NY? Maybe you can stop flipping them burgers you claim I flip.
DJMark 10:40 PM - 21 April, 2015
I've found that lowest-common-denominator type people often resent their superiors.

Oh well.
Serato, Forum Moderator
Michael R 10:42 PM - 21 April, 2015
Ok, this thread has derailed. I'm locking this now.
10:42 PM, 21 Apr 2015
Discussion locked by Michael R