Noooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!

:)

trouble trouble oh oh

No autosync ever










EVER

LOL.
Not sure how deep deepdjdanny is.

It doesn't crash BECAUSE it's not bloated with bullshit features that real DJ's don't need nor should they have.

yep not that deep.

yeah i know this why it doesn't crash.

i'm not advocating bloat.

auto-sync plugin maybe. dangle carrot.

this is funny.

it certainly is a piss poor effort ain't it :D

This thread is comedy and failure from the start!

hey guys im looking to sell this...


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lol

thread lock eh? :)

AHAHAHA!!!

Yes to Auto Sync!

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^Seriously.... WOW LOL

Banned.

Wow is right! onfinite.com

Yet another lazy dj wanting auto Sync.this is why the price of djing is so cheap now

i dont care!!!!!!
just make it optional

Whether Auto Sync is added to Serato or not it will still be available to everyone else on Tracktor & Torq (products that work just as good as Serato and are super reliable). So for those of us who fear that anybody off the street can now be a DJ "It's Too Late!" so that's not an excuse for not including it in Serato.

Most people on the dancefloor don't care what product/format you're using. For those that do all I hear is "That's cheating!", they don't have a clue there's a difference between Serato and the other products out there.

there are certain things i truly like about TSP and about as much as i hate about it..
there are certian things ssl can do t improve but their is nothing i hate about it...

hummm..
ill stick with the one that is truly more reliable..

w/ awsome customer svc...

well put.

:)

www.seoconsultants.com

I've been playing with Itch on the NS7 a bit lately. Nice program, very solid...on my MacBook Pro. The G4 12" that I use for Serato Audio with my Techniques won't run it reliably...not enough processing power. The specs on the box say OSX 10.4.11 but you apparently need a 1.8Ghz or better processor in the Mac, as stated in the minimum specs, once I bothered to read them.

im begining to kinda like that unit..only if i had small gigs or were tired to bring my decks & stuff..

only thing i really dont like the itch program.
i wish the NS7 had native support via SSl..id be all over it!!

oops my bad...it dose work with scratchlive..i guesss???
seee i havent been too keen on it..learning

then agin i have to correct myself..
damm just make this thing work with scratchlive...huh

I like the NS7 for the idea of djing on the dancefloor with the crowd...or where ever...lady's room? LOL

Just straight NO! this request is so weak, in a perfect world you would have been stopped by the door man...

go practice!

Yes to auto sync...in any DVS not called ScratchLive.

negative 1 million times infinity for this feature

we do need bpm sync for the sp6 and some sorta midi clock sync out...


thats all

And I don't give a fuck about most people on the dance floor. I'm the DJ and I know what I want and what I should be using. I don't recall the last time a DJ asked customers what he should be using.

Sync will not make you a better DJ. You have to know when to mix, where to mix etc.. I think Auto Sync on the sampler would be hot. Imagine the live remix possibilities.
Besides no Auto Sync feature works perfectly so it is not something you can use without knowing how to mix.

As for me, getting tracks in Sync and rocking a long mix is most of fun you can have while mixing. Pressing a Sync button all night long will get boring fast but it can be useful in some situations.

Do you really think the Ableton/Serato partnership isn't going to result of some "live" action coming into Scratchlive? I certainly do.

no no no no no!

is there auto sync on vinyl? when you go to your record store (oh wait, most of you dont own any records at all..) can you ask them for the 12" version of ATCQ with auto-sync??? NO. serato is a vinyl emulator. not traktor.

imagine how boring it would be if it synched it for you.

There's no way Rane would bring out something like this, every DJ using Serato would lose all credibility within a short space of time, it would piss off too many (loyal) customers.

wt :)

chris can u lock this thread too ?i promise i will be a good boy...

hahaha

well.. if hes gonna lock the other one, this is the same thing.


and bezzle dont say anything u will get us banned LOL

hahahahah word. lets be constructive and share our views, PG this time, right?

Im trying not too.....can we get a vote to see what the consensus is on this issue so I can just agree with the majority.....expressing opposing views on a subject is apparently bad on this forum...ok everyone for on this side of the room everyone against on that side, smallest side gets banned

oh and by the way the in case anyone missed it the say no to autosynch thread was locked and the the person saying no the loudest was almost banned by mods.....who know what features are in the works...for saying bad things about auto synch....think mabye thats a hint on what their working on??? Just a question for the masses, lets discuss!!LOL

-1 no way !!!
go with itch, if u want auto sync

careful comments like that stir up the water and show independant thought that is considered whinning and may get you banned......like in the forum rule: Be nice and agree!!, say YES OR NO EITHER WAY TO AUTOSYNCH IT DOSENT MATTER IM HAPPY SERATO ROCKS!!

[b]Mods Lock this thread.
Thanks.[/b]

WTF

kosty makes a good point

There... I fixed it.

X 2 what Jesus said.. "And it was written"

I'm late, what was dj banga trying to sell? LOL

dood... im so tired.

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For the sake of argument, people need to remember the difference between SCRATCHLIVE and SERATO when referring to a product. Otherwise, comments like Serato would never... (insert ITCH here) do not make sense.

and I didn't make sense....

hahahaha


Otherwise, comments like Serato would never... (insert ITCH here) make sense.

If you want autosync then use ITCH...

oh wait, I have an even better idea....




































































































LEARN HOW TO DJ!!!

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lol

i dont know auto sync like blends the songs from one another like atomix that sucks, something that matches the bpms maybe but still very easy to do with the PITCH SLIDERS!!!! its pretty straight forward im not that good and i can blend quite easily i even amaze myself sometimes, its all about feeling the music ppl not having the computer do it for you. now itunes has a cd burn option that fades in the song to another lol get a 25 dollar cd player and burn some cds, people dont water down the dj game even more, getting it right on your own is so much fun, thats what makes you THE DJ, everyone looks up to you, you have the power in the room to make people dance slow fast crazy happy sad or not at all, y would you want to take that away from yourself, i do agree with the pitch adjust on the samplers though that needs to be able to be set however u want.

people are starting to make fun of and mock the way programs make djing so easy that anyone can do it, with scratchlive it still takes skill thats y i like it so much you still have to beatmatch use the crossfader gains scratch ect ect i love it youre still a dj u know, with other programs u hit a key and bam the "crossfader" slides across the screen, its going to be a battle of yes and no forever.

LEARN HOW TO DJ.

BUY A RECORD. DO IT. I DARE YOU. I BET YOU WONT. www.dustygroove.com

Dj-M.Bezzle,

That's total bollocks and an incredibly childish response. You know damn well that sensible debate on pretty much any topic is acceptable here.

What is not acceptable is personal insults, and it is for this that you were warned.

If you have any problem with comments made to you by myself or another forum moderator I suggest you do the mature thing I contact me directly via PM rather than make hollow complaints in front of a captive audience.

Even I am going to say f*ck no to an auto-sync feature!

chris d
no dis-respect, but u can warn us in PM as well, instead of be-littlin us in front of our peers.

maybe someone should moderate you.

this isnt MIRC...do the mature thing, and warn people in private.
thank you and i hope u understand my point.
any conversation like should continue in private.. sound fair?

Henry,

It's the policy here to warn people publicly. There are a number of good reasons why we do this, so this will continue to be the case.

However, when moderation issues need to be discussed further I totally agree with you: PM's are the place to do it.

In my opinion Bezzle was wide of the mark with his spurious claims of impartiality and to say so here in *public* is, if nothing else, bad etiquette.

However, two wrongs don't make a right and it's true that it might have been better to take the discussion to a PM.

With that in mind, Bezzle - sorry for snarky comment. I'm happy to talk with you further via PM if you want to.

and i cant help it when it comes to a heated topic like auto sync that i release a furry of ill comments towards people that dont agree with me, so im sorry guys.

Fuck AUTO SYNC.... No No No No No No No No

Oh great. We're back *on topic*....

LOL, just lock the thread. and i agree

NOT TO AUTO SYNC.

i mean NO!

im down for automix if it means I dont have to put my drink down while Im spinning

lol

This weekend I met a DJ that was using Virtual DJ without any external controls. I asked him if he liked DJing with just the keyboard & mouse instead of TTs or CD players. He said he did not need anything else because he could do everything from his computer. He did want to use Serato because it did not have auto-sync. When the program would try to sync it was not that accurate with Hip Hop and Reggaeton. The DJ then tried to mix on a regular CD player and OMG, did he suck. I just don't get how he can even think he was a DJ.
No to auto-beat-sync.
The only place I actually would like it is only as "instant doubles" on the sample banks.

Don't ban me.
J/K

and its punk ass bitch djs liek that, that bring the whole fuckin industry down with them...lowering us all.


hey virtual dj "FUCK YOU!"

Yea Man... FUCK VIRTUAL DJ... Cuz of it more and more and more people are in the Scene when they really don't know the meaning of what a DJ suppose to be.

no please!!!

lol. I wanna add more but the cops are here.

Coldcut uses Virtual DJ (virtual vinyl)

So jump up and dis one of the biggest hip-hop acts of all time. that is if you even know who they are.

Thomas Jefferson says yes on Proposition 22.

Vote for Jefferson. The name you know!!

Never heard of Coldcut, so I guess that isn't one of the biggest hip-hop acts of all time

MAJOR FAIL

www.discogs.com

Watchwww.youtube.com

Fuck Virtual DJ! :P

ahhh, that Coldcut... I wouldn't call them one of the biggest hip-hop acts of all time, but if you wanna DR them then that's your choice. And what do you care if SSL has Auto Sync or not when you use Traktor anyway? (Drimachus)

All together now..

*Best Farmers voices*

OI, GET OFF THAT TRAKTOR. YOU'RE GONNA CRASH!!

Big shout to SSL and its loyal fanboys :)

You not knowing who Coldcut is the fail dude.

I must be a noob then...LOL

ummm hate to put myself on the chopping block like this but ive never heard of coldcut either....im looking at his wikipedia page now and still no bells are ringing, from what im seeing on his page I would hardly classify him as one of the bioggest hiphop acts of all time? Anyone wanna fill me in on his popular body of work>??

NO to auto sinkkkkkkk

I don't care who uses Virtual DJ, iTunes, an iPod etc......I'm not in high school anymore.....

omg - uber fail.

Mind you, I wouldn't really call coldcut straight "hiphop." Other than a few key remixes and mixtapes, they aren't necessarily known for any particular tune so much as they are known as being the founder of one of the most influential indie labels out there being Ninja Tune.

From a hiphop/mainstream perspective, their most famous work is probably the 6 minutes of madness remix of Eric B & Rakim's Paid in Full.

Journeys by DJ is one of my top mixtapes ever...

oops - make that "7 minutes of madness"

Watchwww.youtube.com

Ok I checked wikipedia on coldcut as well as ninja tunes, i knew that label sounded familiar and its because kid koala is on it who i do like, i cant say im familiar with any of the other artists though, im not saying their not good but from looking at that page and from your comments I really dont think i would classify them as 'one of the biggest hip-hop acts of all time' as was stated earlier in the thread

lol

Hearing djs say stuff like this makes me weep.

It's muthafuckin ninja tune! They've been around since the 80s. If you don't know em, dig through their catalog. You're in for a treat. Could just be more of a uk thing tho (not that i'm from the uk, just like a lot of the tunes coming from there)

Oh god, not this shit again.

If you need 'Auto Sync' YOU ARE NOT A DJ!

You might as well purchase yourself a jukebox, take it to the gig, go home and relax then pick it up at the end of the night rather than be a so call "DJ".

maybe i'll start a "NO to auto-sync" thread, because i'll bet a lot of people would have an opinion on that.

awsome idea, both original and creative!

I didn't know Ninja Tune was the same guys as Cold Cut.

7 minutes of funk remix...

So sorry Soo, but some of just enjoy the music and from what I've seen of Coldcut's catalog the 7 minutes of funk remix is the only recognizable track that they have put out. And believe it or not Ninja Tune isn't really considered a popular label unless you're deep into the underground hip-hop seen.

now back on subject...

NO to Auto Sync :)

In Soo's defense there are some big songs for both Cold Cut and the Ninja Tune here in the UK.

Im not trying to discredit anyone here and im not saying their not talented, i just dont see how they can be "one of the biggest acts in hiphop" and diss on people for not knowing them when it seems noone here can even name more than 1 song and they have a few hits in the UK.

+1

yuh, who cares.

no to auto sync

can we get "manual hand sync" ?

oh wait we already do! j/k. i'm just being an @$$ now. my bad.

What's all the ruckus in here? I'm trying to take my afternoon nap.

for the benefit of those of you watching at home,
the "7 minutes of funk remix" is not a remix of the classic funk track "7 minutes of funk" by the group "Tyrone Thomas & the Whole Darn Family".
we are referring to the Coldcut remix of Eric B and Rakim's classic "Paid in Full". the remix appeared on the "colors" soundtrack.
and thanks for tuning in.

who cares.

yea, that statement was dubious - I didn't make it tho. Just saying that Ninja Tune is essential listening and it actually kind of boggles the mind that some DJs wouldn't even know if its existence - top40 or otherwise.

and yea, I'm taking this off topic cause this thread is retarded and played out.

haha. yes it is. i think its like the 7th for auto beat sync. haha

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haha. thread closed. right?

No To Auto Sync... =b

learn to mix!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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^^hay stop jackin mine & niks pics..lol

heh
i just posted on the myspace page for serato


no to auto sync.LOL

I couldn't help it Buddylove LOL ;-)

lol

That bird must of taken ages.. *copying*

hahaha holy crap i didnt notice who posted this if this dosent letyou know auto-synch is bad nothing will

yes to auto-sync!

ha. yes to zero talent djs!

FUCK AUTO SYNC, NO WAY IN HELL SERATO WOULD DO THAT.

just my 2 cents.. lol

no sorry your wrong on that learn to mix even if you have to use the waves

:)

it will be a very sad day if this is ever interduced

i swear if serato gets auto sync my sl1 is going on ebay

I don't really see the point of implementing a autosynch. Lots of software out there already has this feature. None of them as Successful as Scratch Live.
Why I think Serato is successful comes of many reasons such as Quality of the Product, Customer Support and good brandbuild. But most importantly credibility among pro dj's,
serato is about becoming a industry standard.

I think with a autosync feature Serato would loose credibility among DJ's and weaken the Serato brand. Serato Dj's would no longer be looked as real DJ's among other djs.

I started djing about a year ago. Practice beatmatching without looking at bpm and the waves, and now it is pretty easy to ride the pitch and beatmatch. I can be creative on the effects and mixer no problem. I don't need a autosync for that...

And with the Ableton bridge autosync is already implemented. You can put a song or sample in the bridge and sync it to one of the decs. That's what I've heard.

Same people asking for the same things over and over again.

I wonder, do they even have ScratchLive?

noooooooooooo, its bad enough that new dj's can't mix with their ears because they stare at their laptops waveforms, adding auto sync would just make it worse for them.

Serato should put in like a "game mode" when you first install, you have to mix for a certain amount of hours on point with no waveforms, if you do good, it unlocks the waves, LOL

No to Auto Sync please!!!

I seen many djs using virtual dj with auto sync and they still were offbeat and offkey, they were just pushing play anywhere...

I vote no!

NO
NO
NO

you want autosync, then use torq or traktor

No autosync for scratchlive, itch has it, get itch if you want that mess

the majority has spoken...

end thread.

la mayoridad dijo que el"AUTO SYNC" no es algo que Los DJ profesionales nesesitan. Manda a la vegrga el ""AUTO SYNC".


anyways ...... in a nut shell ----HELL NO!!!!!!!

+1 on game mode

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lets try and get this thread locked!
(without getting banned)

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damn
i was just sitting at my computer
and the link got removed already ??? muthafukrs are quick!

they wont kill this fuckin thread

thats pretty lame. they know whats up
thay are probally considering it. cocksuckers

You do realize that you have the option of NOT READING this thread, right?

nah. i like giving my opinion. LOL

chrisD....... i dont know what it is but i HAte SYNC....and because SSL has no SYNC is why i picked it over the others!

Fair enough.

But, hypothetically, if we did add auto sync to SSL what would you do? Change to something else? All similar products already have it.

i hope whoever makes the decisions for serato reads all the huff and puffs that its users put out over this feature!

soooo many people dont want it!!!!

i would love to know who that is.

i would not suggest it(SSL) any of my friends. or up and coming djs.

why?

SSL just lost all credibility with me

hows that ??!!!!!

and would encourage everyone else to do the same. yea,.. im a fuckin dick

What would you recommend to them instead?

whatever makes them happy.

And also to be honest.....I take alot of pride in my choice of DVS. People ask me constantly why i use SSL and i tell them it's tooooo long of a list why I picked it.

1) Rock solid
2)simple lay out
3)great support
4) no sync

whatever makes them happy.

Huh? Why?

That's a cop out of an answer. Why would they want your opinion if they knew what would make them happy?

And to be fare and honest....... If SSL put sync in i would be disappointed but i have too much money and time in SSL. I would continue to use it with out the sync feature on

chris.. im not getting into a pissin match with u over this. i appreciate the fact that ssl implements all kinds of cool features as loop rolls and cue points and now efx

but if u guys are gonna add auto sync, at the same time i want auto scratch, im not a great scratcher... so that being said. i know how to beat match with the best of them and cold hold 4 turntables beatmatched...

so if ur gonna help some losers who cant hold a beat, help a loser like me scratch.

sound good ? good thnx

Again, fair enough. But I'm still curious to hear your answer to my question:

Oh, you just answered :-) Thanks.

answer ^^^^

BTW, I have NO IDEA if auto sync is in the pipeline for SSL or not.

I'm just fascinated that people object so strongly to a feature that they don't have to use.

Personally, I have no interest auto sync but I certainly wouldn't mind if it was added. I would simply never use it.

And I have to chuckle at those who say they'll stop using SSL if auto sync is added.

Surely that means ditching all DVS's given that all similar products already have auto sync.

We treat it like a pissing contest in all honesty. Witch means that you get more respect when you use SSL because YOU know the DJ is actually mixing and not just pick music from a list and hitting sync

im just gonna use virtual dj. seeing how they can use any format for video LOL

and they have the beat grid. i want beat grid for ssl damnit!

I'm not a fan of auto-sync, I think it cheapens Djing, and it cheapens the product. Serato sets itself apart from the competition and that's been the main draw for the people that use it, that's what's attracted us to it.

That bing said, I understand what Chris D is saying, threatening to sell your SL1 is sort of redundant and won't pressure anybody into giving into your demands considering his point about the competition.

exactly black one

LOL!

Owned.

if, serato gets auto sync, im selling everything that i own and buying cd players and playinc cd's. LOL

Precisely.

Owned again.

I just lost my full beer somewhere, what the hell.

thats why i never liked the cdjs. it just never looked like u were doign anything. u would push the platter one time and then pitch bend using the poitch bend buttons or move the platter

there was no constant spinning

The truth is that EVERYONE is telling Serato to "get with the times, product X, Y & Z, do this, this and that", so Serato should be able to also."

Oh, but DON'T put Auto-Synch in there.

Anything but that...

LOL!

Like all of you would go out and buy a NON-Autosynch enabled product over Serato, and sell your SL1/SL3/TTM56/56S/57.

C'mon son....stop playin.

At least you could be assured that if they DID implement it, that it would work GREAT..lol.

Or is that the problem?

thats a problem.

Because you know Serato would create the best Auto-Synch feature in the market?

Thus allowing n00bs to shine?

Because you know Serato would create the best Auto-Synch feature in the market?

Thus allowing n00bs to shine?

yes pretty much genius

thats a problem.

So itch has sync( for beat matching) and auto sync (to move the wave form over to match in time). The sync button just makes it quicker since there is a BPM to the .00 of a sec anyway, so since BPM counters you havn't needed to use your ears to beat match anyway( many have lost this skill because of it). the auto sync doesn't work as far as I'm concerned and do not like the fact that hitting it moves it in random dirrections and has the chance of throwing it off beat.

I'm putting my vote for NO on sync and auto sync. But since I have done it for 10 years with out and now have the option, why not use it.

And why EXACTLY is that a problem?

How would that affect you?

if u add AUTO SYNC or dont add AUTO SYNC i dont care
im still making MONEY

listen... 75 bucks a night isnt alot of money tho

Just because it is there doesn't make you use it. :)

thats not the point. wow

Yes it makes it easier for a off the street so called DJ to jump on one and start mixing but that started with mixers using BPM counters years ago. This is just the next step. I don't like it as much as the next person taht someone with no skill can do it now, but that is how things went. The DJ became a bigger hit then the tracks being played so everyone wanted to be a DJ.... And Money was there to be made to help with that. Sucks.....

Henry, whilst I don't share your views on this particular matter I understand where you're coming from.

But it's interesting that many DJs scorned DVS systems when they first hit the market and made a lot of the same arguments that you're making here to support their opinions.

So what EXACLY is the point?

How does it directly affect you?

It's even bigger than that.

Don't people realize that advances in Technology is CONSTANT and that you're always making room for it?

The 1st DJ's started with no pitch controls.

Then pitch control came...we accepted that.

Then Quartz Lock, direct drives came...we accepted that...

Then better needles came out...we accepted that...

"Skipless" battle records came out....we accepted that...

CDJ's came out...we accepted that...

Mixers with BPM's came out...we accepted that...

Pitch Bend came out..we accepted that...

DVS came out...we accepted that...

Now you're arguing about what "features" should be allowed in DVS...

You can't stop the advancement of technology.

If you really want to fight the "Machine" go back to turntables with no pitch.

johnny... i hope u lose ur gigs to someone that uses auto sync. i actually i pray for it.

That's what your problem is. You think, some snotty nosed kid with AutoSynch is gonna get your gig.

Get your GAME UP.

LOL @ you "praying" for my downfall.

I've got so much experience in the game, that me worrying about a n00b with AutoSynch is so far below my radar that it's non-existant.

But if YOU have to worry about it, then that speaks volumes about the confidence level you have in your own skillset.

But seriously, we're ALL using DVS, so we're already using the advantage of technology to set us apart from that "OLD SKOOL DJ ONLY USING VINYL".

You can't condemn a company for implementing a feature or a n00b for using that feature, if it benefits the company, and the n00b.

Survival of the fittest.

thats what everyone always says.. hustle..grind.. dood.. i been doing that shit longer than u think. im just tired of making it easier for the next person.

if its beneath ur radar.. why r u in here..thats what i thought. maybe u need auto sync

and i bet i will hand an ass whoopin on how to rock a party. my confidence is fine, im looking out for all the djs that have put in work, and have rhythm.

how does it benefit the company ?
the company loses creditbility!

look at virtual dj. thats a noob program. just cuz ur lazy or the next dj doesnt know how to match up beats...

and everyone knows virtual dj is a noob program...

i know some many djs that stepped up from a program(vdj) which uses auto sync to ssl, cuz of the reputation that ssl is the program to be used... if u wanna be taken seriously..


just like in the edm grind. u dont use cdjs? wtf... r u some kind of noob? ha. get it ?

ur basically saying.. fuck all the smaller guys, a smart bar/lounge/small nightclub owner/maanger can just use this program set up the music.. he doesnt need a dj.. they can get the music anywhere..

thnx for making it easier for those people...ur officially screwing the smaller time djs by saying yes to auto sync.

In your mind maybe, but lots of people want auto sync added to SSL. A clear benefit to Serato in that case.


Can't comment on VDJ because I've never used it, but Traktor has auto sync and it's a very nice piece of work used by a lot of pros.

but u wont look at it that way.. but i will. i look out for everyone.. even if i cream of the crop.

great.. well how many pros are there compared to smller time djs? so ur gonna benefit these producer slash djs? just to make them fuckers happy ?

fuck the big time djs.. fuck david guetta fuck iesto and whoever else uses auto sync...

Why are you worried about the NEXT PERSON?

Worry about YOU.

I'm in here to TEACH you to be a better DJ in your mind....

And I'm sure I damn near wrote the book on how to rock a party "dood".

You're scared, worry about yourself.

And guess what?

Serato will loose credibility with WHO?

Will you STOP using their products? No.

What's funny is that you say this



Stepping UP to Serato is because of stability, NOT the fact that they don't have an AutoSync program installed at the moment.

Your vision is blurry and shortsighted.

great.. well how many pros are there compared to smller time djs? so ur gonna benefit these producer slash djs? just to make them fuckers happy ?

fuck the big time djs.. fuck david guetta fuck iesto and whoever else uses auto sync...

ur not gonna teach me shit.

and im sure u didnt write the book... good talk.

and im worried about other djs. cuz its a community, im not a backstabber, but judging by ur actions and words... you are.

u could care less about the next guy, as long as u get ur rocks off.... probally the type of guy... in example hit on friends girlfriends when they are not looking.

Dude, you ain't worried about the "smaller time djs", you just SAID

You're worried about some n00b taking your gig.

Simple.

If you know how to rock a party, you truly wouldn't be worried about little stuff like that.

im not worried about some noob taking my gigs..

it will come back n bite u in ur ass... i cant wait for u to look back to this one day.

Obviously, because you hate the world, because Serato might one day get AutoSync.

Gotcha.

You making references to the type of "guy" you think I am, will do you no good.

And tell your girlfriend if she needs a REAL DJ.....to look me up.

Right now, IMO Scratchlive has the market because of two things: stability, and no auto-sync. Stability is damn important and auto-sync establishes credibility.

For another developer to even think of competing with SL and gaining a following of ex-SLers, they'd have to also offer those two features.

If SL gained auto-sync, it would be prime time for a new company to attempt a go at the market by offering a stable product that didn't include auto-sync. And, I know for a fact that a lot of SL users would definitely give the new product a try, especially if it became the new defacto-standard for credibility because once again you couldn't really use it well without knowing how to mix.

Personally I love SL, but it does have some downsides that a competitor with a product without auto-sync could exploit, such as more video format choices, a better way to use echo-out besides the aux workaround, and ability to assign a video to a group of tracks.

Just a thought.

well tell ur girl is she needs a real man to look me up. fuck the real dj

You can't be serious.

So when you shopped for Serato, you checked for Stability AND the fact that they had NO AUTOSYNC capability?

That AutoSync was a dealbreaker?

That's what DJ's today are CHECKIN' FOR when they buy Serato?

You CAN'T be serious.

Stability - YES

Sound Quality - YES

References - YES

Marketshare - YES

No AutoSync - C'mon son.

i love it. johny.. where do u live.. im curious as all hell.

Why the hell would you even need auto sync?...with bpm analysers and the waveforms even a newbie would learn it easily enough to at least mix a beat half decent. If you cant then give up already. It has gotta be new DJ's asking for this feature because if your are remotely experienced as a DJ and feel the need for auto sync then you suck balls, plain and simple.

You can come RIGHT down to Delta's on New Brunswick to check me out.

Or I can come to Philly.

im saying to serato. even tho some big name djs want ssl. please dont give in them. PLEASE

personally i wouldn't use auto sync, takes away from the Dj aspect of Djing( yea i said it)
perhaps we could come to an agreement where autosuck could be a plugin that costs alot of money so no one buys it!!! just sayin i like to use my crossfader and my mixer to MIX!

u come to philly and u'll probally get ur ass handed to you. listen im just mad to think that some djs... that know to mix, and do it well.... would want this feature... it is just crazy to me

and sorry tryin to be an internet gangsta.. but shit pisses me off homie

true if you got the skills you should be proud and use them

Now, that's one thing I can kinda get with.

Make it a PLUG-IN to buy separately. Keep the price of SL1/SL3 etc.. the same, and give the n00bs an option...Like VSL.

Problem solved.

But to tell you the truth, If I OWNED SERATO, and wanted to expand my customer base, (and make Mo Money, Mo Money, Mo Money), I'd put that damn Autosync feature in there in a New York Minute.

You the dude askin' "Where I live", and can't NOBODY hand my ass to me.

You keep your Internet Gangstraness to yourself, and we'll be cool...

I have NO PROBLEM talking in person.....Real Talk homie.

Apology accepted.

Yeah, label it the NoobDJ plugin and charge $199 for it. Then, if it is activated, a large red box constantly blinks around the whole screen so anyone that glances will see that it is enabled. Then only people like PaulyD will use it and we'll finally have a way to prove that he's a faker.

OMG...How is Pauly D a faker? He's a NEW DJ, that landed a Reality TV show, and y'all know damn well, if you were in his position, you'd do the SAME THING.

You know, the Haterade amongst DJ's THEMSELVES is purely disgusting around here.

Just DO YOU, and you will be fine.

Stop worrying about the NEXT MAN.

just sayin we put all this time and effort perfecting our mixing to have a computer take away what little we have left as DJs its bad enough they sell mixvibes at target......

just sayin we put all this time and effort perfecting our mixing to have a computer take away what little we have left as DJs its bad enough they sell mixvibes at target......

Nah, I have to hate him...he sucks and gets paid loads of dollars...and his hair is shit...whats not to hate haha

real talk homie.. im not apologizing to you. and real talk.. u can surf my myspace page and make assumptions about me all you want.. the reason i asked where u live.. is because im curious about the market there.. not about beating ur silly ass. and im saying im sorry if im talkin like an internet gangsta.. cuz im not that at all.... i grew up in toughest neighborhood in my city... i back up my talk.. im not challening u to anything.. so get that straight. im saying u roll into philly (where my brother lives) and u will get beat down, they dont fuck around there....

I HEAR YOU loud and clear my dude...

But we're all here using DVS.

That's cheating IN ITSELF.

It took me a LONG time to get on Serato. I bought SL3 in April, right when it came out.

I didn't really get it hooked up until close to July...

Why? Because I'd be like everybody else...cheating.

Nobody would be looking at me as being the last "Original DJ using vinyl" and killing it.

So, now I kill it with DVS.

DJ's don't realize that DVS in itself, (with waveforms, BPMS, CDJ's) and all other bells and whistles is nothing more than a tool to make it EASIER to mix and DJ.

That's the same with AutoSync.

its usesless. im done . enjoy this thread knuckleheads.

Whatever, I don't give a damn about your "Hardrock" life. and LMAO @ you being "curious" about the market share in my neighborhood.

And you could NEVER beat my "silly ass". Like I said, Delta's in New Brunswick if you want to talk.

And I'm sure there are areas in New Brunswick that will get you so shook, that you'll burn up 95 to get back to Philly so your brothers can take up for you.

Homie.

If you're not an Internet Gangster, then just keep it civil.

Gotta agree with that point.

Be sure to ***unsubscribe*** homie.

yay.

Right, and once they realize that this ENTIRE TIME, all those "little" features added together make a DJ's life (and ability to mix) MUCH easier.

How many times do you see a DJ JUST mixing using Waveforms?

C'mon son.

why dont u search the other threads about thhis fature... imt gonna spit what everyoen else has said, theres been way more valid points then urs johny

Yo JOHNNY M, what nights do you spin @ Delta's? I spin @ Glo on Thursdays

Serato is just keeping up with the times, and most times is CHASTISED for not releasing updates or FEATURS fast enough...

You can't have it both ways folks.

Stability should NEVER be compromised because of new features, but I'm willing to bet that if AutoSync was released by them, it would be a quality product anyway....

Topic has beaten to death but just for the hell of it -- No, I wouldn't do the same thing. I'd be bustin' my a** daily with a team of seasoned pros that I hired to teach me how to really DJ. Fact.

So yeah, I hate on fake DJs. But not because of their salary or status, just because they're fake and somehow still conceited. I don't care if you are Pauly or DJ Snotnose from down the street... if you act like you're the sh** and can't back it up with skills, you deserve the hate.

Back to the topic though-- I've heard DJs use VDJ and trainwreck or mix an 8 bar at the 8th beat of another 8 bar (ending up with verses over verses), so I guess you're still going to have to have a little bit of skill even if auto-sync is added. Just not as much.

OMG didn't you say you were leaving this topic to us "Knuckleheads"?

I can have an intelligent conversation with intelligent people, (or at least people who want to learn), and people who have a different opinion of mine, but you opted out....so...

scram.

dood. i will do what i want. if i change my mind i do it. and dont u ever shut up ?

Is Pauly really concieted? Or does he just LOOK that way because he's a DJ?

Most DJ's I know have HUUUUUGGGEEEE egos. Why should he be any different?

You have to keep it REAL here. The biggest haters on DJ's are other DJ's, by nature.

And I challenge (battle) people all the time who "Talk the talk" but can't "walk the walk"...

That's the nature of the HipHop Battle DJ.



This is true. It's not like you have a "Crush It" button or something.

Oh, now that we're having an intelligent convo, you want to impersonate an intelligent person and join?

Do you man.

Maybe we should start a new thread-- "Petition - Yes Crush It Button Feature!"

apparently not...

lemme dedicate a song to all u people that want auto sync

Watchwww.youtube.com

if you need autosync to dj...quit

+1...Love that track

+1...Love that track

^^^I think your record is skipping dude!

Nah, he's just rockin' doubles!

Booya! lol

Lol... But he dissed serato and computer dj's in the song...

Nah, he says.."if you have Serato, bravo"

And if this posts more than once it aint my fault!

if they really took a vote on this subject, it would be a landslide!

personally, I would rather Serato apply their time and effort toward other features...(anything but auto-sync) It would be pretty much useless to me.
How about something we can actually put to good use!

He continues to say "But, if you can't cut real records .... and fuck the computer"

What if they implemented Auto Sync on the 68 only.

THen you would still have the barrier to get into DJing with the tools you are supposed to earn at some point.

It seems to me this isnt a battle with autosync, but a battle with how easy technology has made things to become DJ.

Autosync is just the catalyst used on this forum to express that disgust. Its the last bastion of Dues Payed.

^^ damn this weed is good.



Continued:


You dont really hate the Auto-Sync feature. You hate the accessability and job instability it creates for you, at the push of a button.

They already have a form of auto-sync in itch. If they really wanted to, they could patch the code into ssl...

Yes. I think the folks dreading auto-sync, fear they won't stand out anymore if it implemented in ssl. And more than half of " trackor vs, I am a better dj than those who use product X "- threads will be mute.

Yeah...I think he is having a pop at DJ's who have not actually spun with actual vynil before and paid their dues...and bravo to that I say.

As ChrisD said all the competitors already have the feature, Using Auto Sync would be a choice, Just like how people use turntables over CD decks/controllers, Technology today has changed what Djing is full stop. If you asked me 1 year ago would I want this feature I'd have said hell no, but the more time goes on the more uses I have for it, Be it just being cut short for time, wanting to drop an acapella, a sample or whatever it may be. If people want to be "legit turntablists" for not using features like this, Either don't use it (assuming they eventually add it) or roll your scratch live back to an earlier version set your mode to ABS and scratch your heart out. Fact of the matter is DJ'ing has changed in so many ways, change with it or stay behind.

add AUTO-SYNC
add AUTOSCRATCH
add AUTODJ
Add AUTO MIX
add AUTO CARRy MY SETUP
add AUTO Husler
add AUTO ADD New Music to my SSL whit out me working on my SSL
add AUTO Cook

ahahahahahahahah^^^^

I think folks are forgetting about the bridge. I suspect there is going to be some type of auto sync between both programs.

not for it, but I would not stop using Serato unless I was going to be sponsored by Traktor or any other system and paid to support it and demonstrate it to others.. That would be the only way I would switch..

onfinite.com

LOL!

nice

I hope they add auto sync next week! and i hope every person that doesn't like it gets rid of ssl and all use of dvs systems. and keep your complaining asses out of my way. Ill keep my ssl with or without auto-sync... why the fuck are you even using a dvs in the first place??? i got news for all the "hot shots" you started "cheating" the first time you brought a computer to a gig i don't give a shit what dvs is on it...

I hope they add auto sync next week! and i hope every person that doesn't like it gets rid of ssl and all use of dvs systems. and keep your complaining asses out of my way. Ill keep my ssl with or without auto-sync... why the fuck are you even using a dvs in the first place??? i got news for all the "hot shots" you started "cheating" the first time you brought a computer to a gig i don't give a shit what dvs is on it...

good for you waldo!

Henry how the hell you gonna jump in here talking about a feature in a program when according to your profile you got more midi controllers than guitar center? I'm confused? apparently you're using every trick in the book to make shit easier for yourself but you would throw it all away if one stupid (by the way you don't have to turn it on) feature gets added? I'm sorry but with 50 midi controllers there has to be a way to auto sync to some extent.... for fucks sake you can run ssl/ableton/aim/facebook/twitter/myspace/pro tools/and 4 porn sites without touching the decks or computer.....

the reason i have so many midi controllers is because i havent found one that suits me(just felt like saying that in frustration of going thru all of them haha) but if u read some of my posts... then u would know that i appreciate the loop rolls and the cue points and that i have vsl and wanna mess around with some of the video efx in that program.. and wanna make it easier instead of going thru a keyboard, i wanna take my show to the next level! im not a great scratcher!! but im not saying yes to auto scratch!?? am i!?

ahhh its pointless with u mindless fools

btw, i plan on posting a video on how i plan on using my apc 40. stick around kid. u might learn something..

ok when i figure out how to de-age myself from 29 to 12 i'll try to keep up...

ok when i figure out how to de-age myself from 29 to 12 i'll try to keep up...

good 4 u waldo. now go sit...

Okay, here is my take

Before I started reading all these new replies here, I was like " Fuck That Auto Sync Shitt".
Simply because it would allow a decent mix to everybody even my 7 year old brother.

However, the same people who Play Projekt Junkies in their whole set (not dissin them, love their work), are probably the same people who want this new feature. Simply because it will allow them to sound like Me :b in a matter of seconds..

Overall, I say Yes to Auto sync, simply because the Creative Dj's Will Stand Out More now than those who will just be pushing the auto sync for every transiton.. I will be able to do so much with this auto sync shit to be honest :D.. so yes to auto sync :D..

I also Agree that If you do add this Feature.. Add a BIG Bright Color to the Serato Screen, so that people know they are using Auto Sync :p ..

Everytime i look at a Dj using Virtual/traktor etc... i say eh.. Gay fuck is using Sync, no talent.. but when i see a dj Using Serato, i am more impressed and actually have respect for that dj.. well so that is my Take..

After watching the responses from Chris D, i come to the conclusion that Auto Sync is in the works for Serato simply because they want more money..

If you do, please Add that Feature that will Give them Big Bright color on their screen, so other people know they are cheating :)

Been Djing for about 15 years now, embraced Scratchlive about 4 or 5 years ago. I learned to mix with vinyl and my ears...this is just so you know I'm not noob however, as technology evolves, I too evolve.

When I mix with Scratch Live today I use loops and que points like crazy to change base lines, add additional percussion, loop accapellas and sample. For me Auto Synch would allow me to do all this with 4 different sources without constantly babysitting the pitch. I could see really utilizing effect, gating different frequencies, isolating instrument, all doing this live. Not saying I would use it constantly or for easy transitions but I could get seriously loose with an Aut Synch feature. My 2 cents.

If they implement an autosync feature in Scratch LIVE, then the pitch feature on any external deck would be rendered useless. The records would just spin at a constant rate, and that would basically render the timecode useless also...no absolute mode and no needle dropping to an absolute position...

So, now, it would be the software controlling the pitch, which would be controlled by some sort of midi controller, external controller, or keyboard shortcut (unless you like controlling the pitch with a mouse). Unless someone comes out with a turntable or external deck that sends and receives pitch signals through the RCAs and into the Scratch LIVE hardware, and that would just not practical to develop (in other words, it would be stupid).

The only turntable I know that has an external controllable pitch is the Vestax Controller One, and that thing is around $1500. I don't think Rane really would want to devote resources to a turntable that really hasn't sold well to the DJ public.

The original purpose of Scratch LIVE was to be able to manipulate digital music with hardware specifically made for the DJ. As all of you know, you can use Scratch LIVE with virtually any 2-deck DJ system on the market, as long as you have at least an SL1.

If you want a turnkey DJ solution, that is what the VCI-300 and NS7 are for, plus they are both cheaper than buying 2 decks and a mixer. They implement autosync by manipulating the speed of the song within the software. ITCH is not dependent on the speed of the platter. Conversely, Scratch LIVE is dependent on the timecode signal it recieves from the decks.

And Scratch LIVE is Serato's flagship product that caters to the professional DJ. In other words, most DJs who purchase Serato already has turntables and/or cd players and a mixer.

In conclusion, I believe autosync, when you look at it logically, is not really viable on the Scratch LIVE product...unless Rane sees it fit for me to totally disregard the pitch control on my turntables...

BTW, I have never used Traktor or VDJ, so I really have no idea on how autosync works in those software packages when using time-coded vinyl...

I tire of all this cheating twaddle.

Here's an idea - dig out a heap of regular vinyl and try to recreate what you already do when using SSL - no loops, no cues, no sampler etc. At this point, you'll realise just how much alleged cheating SSL does, thus rendering the argument against one extra feature that you don't even have to use utterly invalid.

The truth of the matter is that if SSL gets auto sync, it'll be added with a little fanfare, a tiny minority will kick off about ruining SSL forever wahwahwah I'm burning my gear etc, but they those same people will continue to use SSL regardless for the very reasons that they already use it now. The addition will add to rather than ruin the already game leading product, and DJs will continue to do what they do, and probably find creative ways to use it in their sets too - just like all the other cheat features in all DVS software.

Well said. By the way, gonna have to add twaddle to my lexicon - fits this scenario perfectly. Hope you don't mind.

DJ Blend,


I've been (often willfully) misunderstood in the past but that takes the cake. Clearly you didn't read (or conveniently chose to ignore) this bit.


All I know is that lots of people have asked for auto sync.

This comment deserves an extremely clear reply.

Much of the reason Scratch Live gained widespread acceptance, and now status as a de-facto "standard" (in the US at least) is that BY DESIGN it respected the actual art and process of real DJ-ing.

Anyone who knows about the different DJ software options, from the beginning until this very moment, knows that if they see a DJ mixing records with Scratch Live, that DJ actually knows how to mix/blend/cut/whatever.

Add auto-sync, and immediately that built-in "credibility" vanishes.

Features are nice, but credibility is priceless.

I certainly won't say "I'll stop using SSL immediately if Auto-Sync is added" simply because there is no satisfactory alternative, and dealing with a whole new application is not something I as a 3-5-night-a-week DJ really want to be dealing with. But I would never feel the same way about it.

Chris, I respect your (and Serato's in general) honesty and forthrightness, and hope these comments are taken in the same spirit.

pooof.. there goes the credibility. and then i will push so hard for auto scratch!

They most certainly are DJMark.

This is always a contentious topic and one that always surprises me with it's ability to polarise opinion.

I guess the essence of my own very personal opinion is that I disagree with this idea:


I could bore you to tears with explanations of why I feel this way, but the important thing is that I don't share that same feeling.

Vive le difference.

vive le poopy

@DJ Mark. Going to have to respectfully disagree. Credibility is never lost because of a feature or function. Credibility loss is more accurately a direct result of a lower a barrier to entry or even more simply put, accessibility. Credibility loss for the DJ could just as easily be blamed on iTunes and digital distribution. Hell, CDJs and CDs could arguably have caused loss of credibility.

Instead of buying a 10.99 piece of wax for one good track, I can now buy 10 good tracks for $10 which definitely makes me happy as a DJ. I could give you a million examples but think about production for just a second. Ableton, Reason, Fruity Loops, whatever has made production much more accessible. You don't have to spend thousands on racks and racks of gear. Does the use of software and embracing new technology make production less credible? The answer to this for guys like you and me is probably so what do you do about it?

Got news for all you DJs and producers married to credibility. Chances are today, in the eyes of the masses, you have less as a "DJ" or a "Producer" than you did 5 or 10 years ago. Your gonna have to get over yourselves, we are not as special as we once were. The expectations have changed, the bar has been lowered and our once orderly and quiet world has gotten very fucking crowded and noisy because technology has brought accessibility. I know it hurts but it is true - everyone can buy a DVS or production software today. Any one can be a DJ or a Producer - so that ultimately leaves you with a choice. Either quit or get more creative. This shit is going to keep evolving. All the noise is going to get louder and there is no way that you will be able to turn the volume knob back to the way it was. Your only option is to work harder. And really, isn't hard work what really makes you credible?

One of the fundamental philosophical shifts that I have had to make about DJing in the last few years is that the audience at most clubs or parties today really doesn't care how I do what I do. They care about the end result. The journey of how we create that end result means nothing to the masses. Whether you use Scratch Live, midi, cds, Auto Sync - The final destination is the only thing that counts. If you can't deliver results then you won't get booked again period. Honestly, if really think your credibility really rests on this feature or that function either being there or not then you are kidding yourself. Getting creative, pushing the boundaries and working harder is the only way you are going to gain and keep your credibility.

wow. I said really a lot. I am really tired....Serato FTW. Done with this twaddle

nope ide retire the laptop and go back to hauling my massive bag round for the simple reason, ide still be credible. when ever i see some joker with a cracked version of vdj thats all he is is a joker and serato will be no more than that i'm afraid.

please please don't i foooking love serato

So if I understand correctly, because of a feature that existing users won't even notice or use, some would take the massive retrograde step of abandoning their current digital setup to return to the keeping it real analog approach?

That's the ultimate in cutting off your nose to spite your face. It's a massive middle finger to Serato that they won't even notice. Forgive me, but I really don't believe for a second that you'll do that, and I'm pretty sure you don't either.

SSL will look, feel and be exactly the same as before - it'll simply have a feature that you don't have to use. Serato won't have devalued the software in any way at all, and people who use it now will have just as much credibility as they ever did.

But I guess if it gets added, all of these people - serato.com - and every other SSL user will suddenly become a fake DJ with zero credibility right?

Logic, reason and common sense? Good luck with that skratchworx...

Sorry Chris. What was I thinking?

Ummm... DEATH TO AUTO SYNC. If I had a car, I'd rip the sat nav out, burn it and stick to map reading too.

Damn....I remember when using a scratch breaks record was cheating...as for my opinion, well if you don't ride the wave of technology, you'll probably get sunk...

If autosync gets added, that could potentially mean Serato and Rane will make more money, especially from Traktor to SSL converts...

Honestly, how can that not be a good thing? More money = more resources for R&D = more features coming out more quickly...

Let me chime in real quick... If you add Auto-Sync to ScratchLIVE then what will be the difference between ScratchLIVE & ITCH?

To be honest, after thinking about it for a while I could really care less about whether or not Auto-Sync gets added. Personally I wouldn't use it. This thread is pretty much...www.sternplanet.com

Like I said, the minute you bought a DVS solution, you were "cheating".

Pandora's box was opened a LOOONNNGG TIME AGO.

To me, AutoSync is like Pitch Bend, and whether to use it or not.

LMAO @ dude having 50+ MIDI applications in his profile, and cryin' the blues about AutoSync.

Priceless.

i'd welcome autosync for the sampler channels to match acapellas on the fly etc., but not on the main decks.

+1 that would be a good first step to ease into it (assuming it is coming :(

heres my 2 cents, Ive seen the autosync feature before on tons of equipment, my 1st pioneer cmx 3000 cd decks offered it and so do traktor and other DVS software, now non of these work very well most just catch it up to lock it into place for a second but your external pitch is the master, if serato did this im sure they would have it be the best auto sync onthe market....heres the problem, I keep seeing all these big djs in big markets talk about how creativity keeps them afloat and they have XXX amount of years in the game...the reason youve got that background is because you came up when you acutually had to have talent to do it, and now since you have connections and a background you can continue to do your thing, a good autosync feature would take away the last little piece of talent a DJ can use as leverage for skill. I know in the big markets where theres alot of history in DJing its all about being creative and scratching and things like that, but in alot of our smaller markets its not about all that, i know in my current area its play whats hot open to close, you can throw your own twist on it but if you go out every night for a month here youll never hear 1 scratch or more than 10 songs that arent present or past hot garbage....that said what keeps these djs in a job is the dedication they put in to learn the art, if there was a good autosync one that acutualyl synced the 2 tracks at the push of a button how long do you think it would be before the owners decided why pay this guy 200 a night to do what i can pay my door guy 75 to so when all he has to do is push a button to lock the tracks in together, i know people will start talking about song selection but seriosuly how hard is it to look at a list and go hmmm ive heard this on the radio 16 times on the way here ima play this, ive spun at 3 clubc in the last 5 months that all offered limewire on the computer in house, so in a market like mine basically the ability to match beats is the ONLY leverage left, and for everyone who says the BPMs are shown and matching waveforms are easy ya thats true if you put in the work but ive had tons of friends ive tried to teach who couldnt do it...the concept of the pitch controlling the time and keeping the time lined up really didnt click with them and they def wouldnt put in the time to learn, its alot harder for an owner to eplain all that to a door guy than it is to go, pick a hot song, push 1 on the keyboard and then on the chorus push this button and your done......sure alot of you experienced DJs with 20 years in the game wouldnt be affected but its the new kids comming up that are going to be fucked by it.

Also for all the TT enthuiasts how many TTs do you think will be newly sold when the sales guys are telling people their a waste of money because all you need is SL and a MIDI pad and SL will do all the work for you? If noones making money on TT sales itll be more than just a rumor of them discontining

I just look at Djing as a culture more than a job and i see it following the pattern of hip hop to rap, where its turning from a rich culture to a watered down job that technologys made it easy enough for anyone to do an the dollar is the bottom line.

And Chris,


does the CDJ 2000 offer auto-sync ;)

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FOR THE SAMPLER!!

*chuckles*

i want anything & everything that can be implemented in scratchlive.
i dont have to use it if i dont want too..
only thing that matters to me is that ssl stays stable..

Thank you
BuddyLove

If Autosync is added I would probably just use cdjs. Serato djs would loose their credibility if autosynch is added on the maindecks. Autosync on the sampler and bridge only.

djs should let their skills make the credibility..not what they use

Bezzle, I hear where you are coming from and I think a lot of guys are affected by the influx of too many DJs in their market. What freaks me out more, and this is something we all have to face up to, if you are playing top 40 and DJ X is playing top 40 and the only thing that separates the two of you is the ability to beat match, then the game is lost and there is no DJ culture.

If you are in a market where top 40 is the only thing that gets you gigs and you did refer to the music as present or past trash, then you aren't supporting or building the culture - you are treating DJing exactly like a shitty day job. And yeah man, if top 40 is your one trick pony and it's not paying the bills or feeding your soul, not trying to sound like a dick but you might want to consider quitting.

The good news is there are a ton of things you can do to shake things up to be creative and to contribute to the culture that you love even if your market sucks ass - Start a new night, learn a new genre, join a band, collaborate with musicians, produce tracks, do a radio show, take music theory at a local college, learn an instrument, teach kids how to be "real" djs. None of this stuff will probably make you bread out of the gate but it will ad depth and richness to you as an individual. That in turn ads depth and richness to the DJ culture. Based on what you and a lot of other guys are saying, you're not making bread anyway because your market is saturated. My market is saturated. Unless you live under a rock, everyone's market is saturated so you might as well get proactive and really start contributing to the culture - Culture is a two way street and you are one of the drivers, not just a passenger taking a ride until it hits a dead end.

Bezzle, you seem like a good dude and I'm hoping you don't think I am picking on you. I am writing this as much for me as I am for all the other misguided and confused. As I step back from this thread, it's really disheartening to see that auto sync can cause such controversy. People keep saying auto sync will make people lazy, it will make djing easy, it's cheating, credibility will be lost blah blah blah. I'm convinced now more than ever that auto sync would force the lazy and the potentially lazy to step up their game or get completely run over. Alright, back to my shitty day job :)

+1 for auto sync

I think if it were added maybe having a way to disable it in setup would be a good idea. Or if an option in the install program were put in to not include feature would also be good.
That way all these whiners complaining about this feature can't complain
If you dont want it dont use it

Personally I don't care either way.

Chris makes a valid point. If all the competitors have this feature why shouldn't Serato?

i may not have made aa few points in my post, I enjoy playing top 40 as well as breaks, electro, and more recently dubstep (DAMN YOU SNIFFLES), when i refer to it as radio garbage its a term we use on this board to identify music of the masses. The songs may not be the best but i do enjoy seeing the crowd reaction, but theres were our perminant name building, following building, and extra cash jobs are....playing the jiggy hits for the masses. Now down here the "real DJs" do create their own nights, we do breakbeat and EDM parties about once a month but not at the normal venues, they wont allow it, so we find spots to let real DJs do their thing. The catch here is if we werent playing the clubs everyone goes too, we wouldnt be able to have these events as we wouldnt have the names to A) back it up with the venues people, and B) have the following to support us. These new autosync guys have no interest in this its a paycheck for them so if\when they takeover say goodby to the richness that tradiational DJs bring. Besides that as a person who truly enjoys going to clubs to hear DJs spin i dont want a non musical security guy playing out of key limewire 68 kbs tracks.....but most of the public where i am wouldnt give a shit about it.

I don't see ANY VETS in here AT ALL complaining about AutoSync.

That should tell you something.

lol @ dood that wont stfu. i look at making my show better... ur a bigger idiot /moron than i thought. go jerk one off

go use ur auto sync u low life talentless dj. u probally use 100 percent CC in ur show u jersey shore douchebag creeper swinging off pauly d's nuts

the minute all u guys bought scratch... u said fuck man.. i cant get vinyl anymore. they are making it too hard for us to acquire this shit... i cant afford 9 bucks a single, especially when its free on the internet! thats what i went thru.. at one point i was spending more money on vinyl then i was making djing.. and dont u fuckers even go.. well maybe u shpuld be making more money blah blah blah. stfu

anyone thats been in the game for 15 years or more....KNOWS.

i went with stupid instant start cd players for a couple years, and then came scratch, which had the vinyl control... who wouldnt jump on that... we all love vinyl control. thats the very first reason why we bought scratch... i heard it was good... i had no idea about reliability, i just knew that rane was involved... it had to be good.

they added new features. of course im gonna use them "step yo game up" is what its called.

i can go on and on and on... dont even...

almost 19 years bitch, thats veteran

yes it does....that someone who was lucky enough to get their foot in the door when alot was required to do so and build a name before the market became saturated dosent need to worry about some kid with auto sync...thats VERY TRUE..the reason im personally against it is when you vets retire and its Kid A who practiced and knows his stuff and wants a real DJs check but has 0 real life experience, VS kid B who knows how to push an auto sync button who wants $25 and a sandwich because he didnt put any time into learning the craft and also has 0 experience. I know all the vets are gonna talk about how the skilled one will rise ect ect ect, but when super button lets you beatmatch enough to get through a top 40 set functionally, how does kid A get that chance to rise to the top

holy shit dude fuck an autosyn conve lets see where this goes......i have VIP seating in front 2 bottle min and several couches, bottles include mixers..ANY TAKERS??

At chrisD................lets be real.......... there has to been internal talks of auto sync at SSL meetings. There has to be a good reason why they have not added the feature because the technology is available. I don't expect you or anyone else to tell me those reasons but i know they exist.

1) SSL is not the only one in this DVS game so it has to stay true to it's believes (solid rock performance,fee updates,simple lay out)

2)they have to make money..... you do that by staying #1 or very competative

3)the new bread of DJ (the ones that have not bought a Serato product) are looking for the best DVS and SSL want to be that DVS for them,but at the same time it has to listen to their core costumers(they do better than anyone).

LMAO! @ 19 years...

19 years ago, I single handedly was holding down a college, paying off everything in cash, and buying a new car.

Try 32 years in the game, you pickle sniffer.

And LMAO @ Talentless DJ....

Man, I can WAX you on ANY Platform YOU choose, and I'll wreck you into oblivion with a Realistic mixer.

I don't care HOW many Midi "cheat" buttons you use.

And this

speakin of fiesty lol

But that's just it...

EVENTUALLY the skilled one will rise to the top...

Y'all talking scared....

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I dont see how though, how does someone "skilled" get the oppritunity to rise when the jobs are taken by security gaurds and security guys who have torrented HDs, auto sync buttons and work for 50 bucks a night? Cream dosent rise if its not put in the bucket

Man listen.

He don't want NONE of this.

I'd flush his 19 years of "logevity" right down the toilet.

Now MidiMap THAT.

u been game how long ? and u finally jumped on seratos nuts when ? thats what i thought ?

It's called HUSTLE, and getting your GRIND ON.

Let's say a kid out there is trying to break in the scene....

Do you know what he should do?

Do his HISTORY, which would probably lead him to a cat that's been IN THE GAME for a minute, which would lead to connects, and networking, which would lead to him getting PUT ON.

That's how it goes.

johny.. thats the only thing u got is the midimap ? who cares.. im not gonna explain to ur moron ass again why i have different midi controllers... go buy some d hardy shirts.u will fit right in with ur shit talking.

But check this...

I'm BETTER than YOU on ANY PLATFORM.

It doesn't matter if I'm on Serato, Wax with a Realistic, or a Victrola, you STILL can't hang.

So, you need to redirect this argument to ANYTHING OTHER than each other's personal skills...

Because I can assure you, that you will want your brothers to beat me up when I'm done.

Like I said, I don't talk shit, I told you where I am.

I thought YOU were the one leaving us "Knuckleheads" to discuss this "Feature".

Simp.

Like I said, I don't talk shit, I told you where I am.

I thought YOU were the one leaving us "Knuckleheads" to discuss this "Feature".

Simp.

dood u wish.

go get traktor with the auto sync

ur the one that wants it so bad. what does that tell anyone here?
ur lazy?
u might as well be talentless..

yes but your completley ignoring the question, hes not not in the game because of lack of venue hes out because the software allows for ANYONE to do what needs to be done musically for next to nothing where as he is asking for more money to do more unnessesary work,

For WHAT? So we can be on "EQUAL" ground?

Get a grip on these nutz.

Ha, I "Might as well be talentless" vs YOU who IS JUST TALENTLESS....

Typical dweeb.

get a grip of urself homie. ur the one spazzing out.. i can see it now... roid rage ?

are we gonna get a battle outta this???

typical jersey douchebag, u should be on season 2

EVERYONES TALKIN REALLLLYYY LOOUDDDD!!!!!!!!!

firetrucks are red

blue

red

BLUE!!!!!!!!

You are setting up a Hypothetical situation that hasn't even HAPPENED YET...

So tell me, with ALL THOSE AUTOSYNC products out there RIGHT NOW, how come nobody is screaming bloody murder that they're loosing jobs to n00bs use are using it on the other products?

And don't tell me "because it REALLY doesn't work that well".....

Yep, me anD

listen, if i dont reply soon, its becasue i got better things to do.. i mean 32 years in the biz, and ur here argueing with me. go do u.

You are setting up a Hypothetical situation that hasn't even HAPPENED YET...

So tell me, with ALL THOSE AUTOSYNC products out there RIGHT NOW, how come nobody is screaming bloody murder that they're loosing jobs to n00bs use are using it on the other products?

And don't tell me "because it REALLY doesn't work that well".....

RED!!!!!!!!

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Yep, ya girl likes it.

Wait until the DVD comes out.

WOW!

I know, you're getting your PUSSY, I mean POSSE together to come to NJ.

See you soon.

so why even argue that u want it ?

WOW

dood..i would say somethign about ur girl... but ur gay. and i dont wanna say anything aout ur man. hes probally more mainly than u .. and will beat me up. sorry

You the BEYOCH crying about

"Don't put it in!!!! PPUUURRRTYYY PPPLLLEEEEEEAAASSEEE Serato, my skills will be all summed up in a button if you do..."

Patheticness at it's finest...

Hey, I didn't know ya girl was a tranny, she hid it well.

no.. i never said that.. i said i was looking out for smaller time djs as well...

it will eventually hit the some of the bigger djs in any market..
but u dont get that. after all these years of experience, u think u would get that, and like i said i know about stepping my game up. i have! and continue too.. even with all my midi devices LOL. sheesh... my fuckin family pretty much grew up in jersey, and brooklyn and u have same thick headed mentality as they do, must be something in the air.

thatS the funny thing... it wasnt my girl, and u should be ashamed for paying for that tranny. good for u. u got get it once in a while

i'ma have to vote No. sorry dudes, dj'ing ain't supposed to be easy

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www.FreshBasilCrew.com

Lookit this bitchmade shit...

And you have the Philly Bitchassness built right into you.

No WONDER you stay outta NY.NJ, your own family probably beats your azz on the reg.

man dood.. ur the only one in here thats screaming... please give us auto sync, look at how much ur talking...

And you have the Philly Bitchassness built right into you.

No WONDER you stay outta NY.NJ, your own family probably beats your azz on the reg.

it most certianly is happening now, i recently went to a club that just switched owners about 6 months ago, i went in and the music was being mixed horribly, it was kinda on beat but he was fading out on lyrics, the phrasing was wrong the mixes were off key, i went and talked to him (i network with all djs) and asked what he was mixing on and he said nothing just VDJ, i asked him how long he had been mixing and he tells me the owner asked him to start learning about 2 weeks before the club opened.....dance floor was still going strong, later i met the owner and i told him i was a dj and gave him a tape and explained to him he could use a real dj, he asked fow what he pays the guy playing in drinks the crowd comes anyways for the drink specials and no cover and as long as he plays the hits the crowd happy, he also didnt want alot of unnecessary equipment "cluttering" the club

lol, I'm HARDLY screaming. i'm completely making light of how you can't even stay on one side of the fence.

But you know what's REALLY burning your soul?

The fact that EVERYONE (including Serato) is laughing their azzez off at you.

Serato KNOWS you ain't gonna sell SHIT.

You YOURSELF, know you ain't gonna sell shit, Why? Because you are already threatened and scared of losing gigs to a FEATURE that isn't even OUT on Serato yet...

So you will need ALL the tools possible to hold that measly bar job you have.

You can't even leave this thread because I have you so worked up.

You put your "credentials" out there, but like I said, when you STARTED, I was already at the height of my DJ career.

Go ahead button pusher, you'd be better off getting some Gel and doing a Pauly D.

First off, what are you doing giving a CLUB OWNER a TAPE? Who makes TAPES?

Right then and there, I would have passed you over, as I'm SURE the "DJ" there at least provided him with a CD.

Step up your game Beezle.

tape = cd you read that way to literally, they do still call them mixtapes....if you buy a DJ Drama mixtape from the store its a cd

If this is what happens when a minor feature is only talked about being added, I'd hate to see what happens when it is.

Walk away gentlemen. It's really not important enough to fall out over. Move away from the keyboard - go spin some cool tunes or maybe even go outside.

ive done guest spots\fillins at 3 of the best clubs down here and was speciffically told by the resident and owner to nto scratch, not play remixes, play mostly radio stuff that people know and keep the crowd dancing.......all that really leaves is mixing and being creative with wordplay and transitions where i can and from what ive heard from people in the surrounding areas more and more this is the trend thats occuring, and i dout owners are going to pay someone 200+ more dollars over someone else because they loop a few bars and make a creative transition when they can add to their revenue and have someone just do the basics with an auto sync

LOL, stop lyin' you gave that dude a Memorex 90 Minute jawn, and it ended up right in the toilet, just like in that movie, Hustle and Flow....lol.

lol

But even if what you SAY is true, that's still something where you have to let him give you a BREAK, DJ the best way you know how, and do what you do.

I've NEVER heard management tell a DJ NOT to scratch, juggle, or do whatever UNLESS the DJ is doing it to the point of DISTRACTION.

I backspin ALL the time, but the shit is ON BEAT, so nobody will notice, except those DJ's in the audience, who are like...Oh, snap..

But even if what you SAY is true, that's still something where you have to let him give you a BREAK, DJ the best way you know how, and do what you do.

I've NEVER heard management tell a DJ NOT to scratch, juggle, or do whatever UNLESS the DJ is doing it to the point of DISTRACTION.

I backspin ALL the time, but the shit is ON BEAT, so nobody will notice, except those DJ's in the audience, who are like...Oh, snap..

You know what scene I'm talking about ...right?

Watchwww.youtube.com

well me myself i cant scratch anyway so its a mute point lol, but that WAS told to me before my set, and i can vouch that with 100% accutracy that if you go out on any given night to any or all of the clubs here you wont hear 1 scratch from a single DJ, in my 5 years here i heard 1 DJ scratch durring a gig (guest spot) and the crowd was def not feelin it

yup....i remember what happened to the dude who threw it in the toilet too lol

so.... I take that to mean you're against it?


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Using automix is like taking the swing out of a jazz drummer.

2 The People Fighting Over This Crap.....

Your WHACK DJs... Prior to going to my gig yesterday, I left a reply here, i come back and check up on it and we have the same people fighting over this shit still LMAOOOO

Instead of Fighting, go out and get more known, so you don't have to be in this shitty forum fighting over non sense..

That is the reason why good djs are not here. They are not here because they don't give a damn about this feature.. they will get gigs with or without sync ;D

There, i feel better now :)... go head and bash on me if you feel offended, i'm only 18.

It's funny how "THE MAJORITY DON'T WANT AUTO SYNCH" keeps getting mentioned in this thread, when it's more like the same 10 DJ's don't want Auto Sync. I want someone to prove to me that THE MAJORITY chose SSL because it didn't have Auto Sync. lol Like someone else said, STABILITY not Auto Sync.

Anyhow, I don't care if Auto Sync gets added or not, but I can see how it can be beneficial, specially for the show DJ's who use 3 or 4 turntables. Auto Sync can become very handy than.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Sam get quoted a long time ago that Auto Sync would not be added to SSL?

Autosync supports terrorism son.

i heard auto-sync sues estates

That would be the way a minority of people use it. The majority of people would do exactly what they do when using software that already has this feature...allow it to do all the mixing because "they have better things to do".

I have had too many discussions with other DJ's and owners that want autosync features just because (these are true examples):

A) I'm a mobile DJ and when I am working a wedding the last thing I have time for is mixing a song...I am just too busy to stand behind my rig all night and "DJ"

B) Mixing interrupts my flow...I need to keep watching the floor

C) I cannot afford a DJ that plays Serato so I just had VDJ installed

These are all true responses that I have heard. To me any of them are reason enough to not install autosync into what is commonly referred to as the top of the line DVS software in the marketplace.

lol WOW! Those responses made me laugh. In all honesty, if Auto Sync lets the DJ get creative, than more power to them. But if DJ's start using it because they're lazy, than WTF? lol... I personally wouldn't use it because it takes away from the fun of being a DJ. It's the same reason why I don't use Ableton Live at my gigs. It's just plain boring.

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Henry, JohnnyM - this is a discussion about auto sync.

If you guys want to staunch one another out do us all a favor and do it over PM.

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I've already seen this in a couple places

see ...not just me

Ok, so is that a place that would be able to afford you in the 1st place?

Answer is probably no, so they'd be better off with a Jukebox, or you'd be working for 50 bucks and a 2 beers.

Same thing as ANY establishment that doesn't want to "Invest" in their music.

Acutally it's a place that can afford a DJ. Believe it or not some owners are just that cheap and try to cut costs any chance they get

And actually, that example doesn't even apply here because in the 1st example, dude is saying he CAN'T AFFORD A DJ,

while in the 2nd example, A DJ didn't loose his place to a n00b using an Autosync feature....There wasn't even the mention of a DJ there in the 1st place.

Nice try at trying to merge the 2 arguments, but it fails on both accounts.

you mean "moot" point.

Ok, so they DON'T WANT TO PAY, which is a problem for ANY DJ. That has nothing to do with the software, or how readily available it is to a n00b.

Ill take it! lol....I agree with Johnny on that point though...If the place is happy using VDJ because it cant pay enough for a real DJ then it probably aint the place that a serious DJ would wanna spin at. If the management aint investing in a quality DJ then first and foremost they probably lack ambition anyway.

nah mute since im not gigging anywhere its silent lol

^^^Exactly, if you take the Software out of the picture (either by them not having access to VDJ, or a n00b wanting to do it for 50 bucks using AutoSync), do you see that place actually PAYING for a DJ?

yes but they didnt want to pay before the difference was they still had to find someone capable of DJing and get him to agree on a price, now with advances in auto syns they can just get a security guard they already pay or a fam memeber to do it and say fuck the dj altogether

lol Yea, I can see how real world examples concerning this exact thing fails in your eyes.

You (your thoughts) are exactly the type of person that should just be quiet about wanting an autosync feature and just hope that it gets implemented. You do far more damage to the argument that support it.

Basically your point of view is

1) I WANT IT!! (pouts because it's not in there)

2) EVERYONE ELSE HAS IT (pouts because you don't have it)

3) GIVE IT TO ME AND EVERYONE ELSE SHUT UP (pouts because no one listens to you and you cannot find a way to intelligently discuss valid points)

I think that sums it up.

That's not true...

They had and still have the options to buy premixed CD's or Jukeboxes, and play them ALL night.

omg this tread is gaayyy now, *stops tracking* like fuck man

this topic is too quick...my above post was in response to DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 post

True, but I think this is only the beginning. To be honest alot of times it's not even the owners that use the undercutting noobs, it's usually the promoters that wanna make as much as they can by spending as little as possible

i dont think its a cant pay situation as much as a rather pay less situation, especially with this economy and especially in smaller markets more and more places are going with whatever the cheapest alternative is, auto sync just widens that pool and the more advanced the auto sync gets the more and more people you have who can do what normaly it would take a at least compitant DJ to do.....if someone invests 0 time in learning and time in equipment, 25 bucks and some free drinks is a great deal

I dont think it really matters if you got autosync anyway...you still have to mix the right records, change the tempo during the night, create the atmosphere by interacting with the crowd...auto sync or not, a computer cant do that for you so its a MOOT point lol

Frankly I DON'T CARE if it comes or not. My concern is with the crying from those so called DJ's that DON'T want it.

I'm basically saying, is an added FEATURE going to Shut Down your DJ career?

If it is, then you need to leave the game.

I can't understand why people don't realize that the minute you connected your Turntables up to a computer, you were "Making it EASIER FOR YOU TO MIX".

It's as simple as that.

Everything else is a result of that medium.

Plus not every market is lucky enough to have tons of clubs to choose from, sure loosing 1 club to VDJ may not sound like shit in NY or LA but when you only have 3 clubs to choose from and a line of compitant DJs already fighting for the spots loosing the job to someones cousin is a HUGE deal

But then you're screwed from THE DOOR, and you have to move.

If you live in a 1 horse town, and but want to build a bunch of saddles for a herd....

What would you do?

Serato had better improve the key-lock algorithm before they attempt to implement this kind of a feature... (if infact it works in a similar way?)

I'm not really up to speed on how auto-sync actually operates.
Is it similar to "warping" in Ableton? (because I've heard it affects sound quality adversely -similar to key-lock)

Can auto-sync handle songs with tempo fluctuations (live drummers)?

does anyone have actual experience with this type of feature?

thats what im getting at there are ALOT more 1 horse towns than there are NYs and LAs, and when all those 1 horse towns start losing all their spots to auto-synced cousing and door guys and all the talented DJs either quit or move to your spot it cant be good for anyone, the culture or personally.....especially when "good" djs move to your city and give "good" performances for peanuts because their trying to "network" or make a name for themselves there.......i know your going to say this dosent affect you and your prob right but thats because you HAVE a name that was built before all this BS, but what of all the new guys.....what reason do they have to acutually learn something or continue the culture when theres nothing in it for them to put in the extra work to learn it right

Ha! Even KEY LOCK is a "Feature" that makes you "MIX BETTER".

As a matter of fact, it enables you to do something that you aren't even SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO DO....

If using 2 pieces of vinyl, and the mix doesn't sound right because of differing BPM's, and one song sounds like Alvin and the Chipmunks, you just can't use those 2 records.

KEY LOCK enables you to "cheat" and mix those 2 songs together...

You can't even replicate that with vinyl, you can ONLY use a Digital process to get that mix.

So now what? Why didn't everybody shut down KEY LOCK?

Because it made you "MIX BETTER"....

it wouldnt matter you could mix 2 songs outta key and it wouldnt make a difference just look at crooklyn clan

You guys complain about auto sync. What about in 5 years when someone releases a "read the crowd software" than can read peoples emotions to track played using the same emotion recognition technology they use in vegas to find cheats. It would randomly choose a track, read the reactions of people in the crowd, hell you could even analyze the weight on the dancefloor to figure out if people are dancing with no human interaction.

DJing will get fully automated one day. For those that say no, im pretty sure most assembly line workers said that robots couldnt replace a skilled worker.

Yall better start finding ways to stand outand find a nice Niche with this technology and improve it and embrace it before it replaces you. Its only a matter of time.

There is a difference between using technology to "mix better" and using technology to completely do the mixing for you.

Why can't you see that simple point?

you wouldnt even need the software, from my experience you if you just randomly play whats on the radio the crowd is JUST as happy as if you organise an inteligent set, all you would need is software than looks at the top 40 tracks of the current and last 3 years annalyses the BPMs and goes down the list

Think about it, put a weight scale under the dancefloor.

Play random tracks. More weight on dancefloor, higher track rating. Program software to play highest ranking tracks at 1am. As tracks start to fade out of popularity less ppl will dance to them, therefore automaticaally downgrading the songs rating.

Dammit i think i just stumbled onto something here.

Sorry fellas.

only problem with that........the fat girls are always gonna have the tracks they want played...people in the audience are gonna be like daaaaammnnn why gina always gotta come her im tired of hearin lollipop

LOL

The new guys need to move to a bigger city. I mean, realistically,

I said that one before....

And y'all (Sixxx) didn't want to hear it....

It's COMING!

Anyone a good programmer, lets make this shit and put everyone out of business fuck you allllllllllllllll!!!!! ima get paid haha

Uh, no...

You've been reading my previous posts.....

***Calls Patent Pending office****

i know its comming, im not arguing that, dosent change my negative views on it........the feature itself isnt what worrys me as ive owned equipment that had this feature on it since waaaaaay back, what scares me is serato has a habit of doing things RIGHT lol

You never know but I would find it very strange being on a dancefloor with no DJ...plus how would the computer handle requests, cause even if you are a no requests DJ you can still get some good feedback from the crowd on what they would like to hear...I think we are a long way off fully integrated DJ software that does all that shit so I dont give a toss either way...even then, Ill just start a throwback night lol

patent office is too busy dealing with me at their desk regerstering the patent in my name

patent office is too busy dealing with me at their desk regerstering the patent in my name



i dont think its as far off or advanced as you guys think, there are a ton of bars in my area that have mixmeister and itunes on playlist mode with all the hits in a playlist....dancefloor dosent seem to mind, and if a songs a miss then they go to the bar and spend money

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whats wrong with security work..
especially security supervisors.
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Of course I see it, and I hear your PASSION.

But I'm realistic, and I'm in IT.

I'm also a Business Man.

I'm also a veteran DJ who (recently) made the switch from Vinyl to DVS.

I see it all.

The truth is that it doesn't MATTER what we "think". This machine is driven by the customer.

The customer wants music, but CHEAPLY.

Enter the company who can provide that to them, (iPods, VDJ, Serato, Torq, Traktor, etc..)

Enter the person willing to "Program" it for you ( A Legit DJ, a Security Guard, your little brother, etc..etc..)

The end result can be accomplished by ANY combination of the above for varying prices, if any.

The crowd no longer cares about "mixes", neither does management.

But said "Company" wants to stay afloat. What do they do? Appeal to the masses.

Again, the ONLY ONES who care how a DJ does his thing, is another DJ.

Nobody else cares....seriously.

So what happened to the clubs that have a DJ there to break new records?....I dont/will never do top 40 music anyway so this dont apply to me...maybe thats the loophole guys, how is the computer gonna stay ahead of the game in terms of breaking the new tracks from different genres?....and Bezzle, that sounds like clubs round your way suck absolute balls!...dont think big city clubs would ever adopt that approach though, not in the near, or distant future.

If a Sync button ever does appear in an update, then just don't use the Sync button. My favourite DJ software is still (and has been for nearly five years now) Scratch Live, but I'll use Itch occasionally when I need to travel light, and I've never bothered to use the Sync feature.

You would buy your requests at the bar with your drink, more incentive for bars to kick you bastids all out. The timing of the song play would be dependent on both the rating and the donation given.

. As for no DJ, here in NYC a LOT of placed you cant even see the DJ. Hes either Up high or behind some wall with a small slot to look out.



The business side will eventually take over the art side if the art can be successfully reproduced for cheap. Its just good business.