Why do people post such comments and dony provide links ?

Go to Numark's twitter page and I presume you meant don't?

Got it. I follow them on Facebook and Insta, not twitter and I did not see it there. I guess we need to follow every source of social media.

Thanks for the link

Strange!

Almost January. Lets Go!

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This is beyond an opinion and to be honest after owning quite a few controllers it is an erroneous opinion IMO LOL. It is about in line with the SX2 and BOTH are great controllers.

It's a bad ass controller.

I just want the damn DVS control already. I read that with the sx2 you can't record while in DVS mode through serato. Is that true? Do you think ns7ii will have no option to record sets with DVS also?

ABsofreakinlutely!!!!!!! I would NEVER disagree with that. Even saying the NS7II is the favorite of yours is understandable.

I just don't agree with the "king of controllers"......................... this just sounds too close to "The Best DJ Controller Ever Built. Period" claim that Numark made. This is stamped RIGHT on their website with the controller as-is NOW. I could sit here and list all the things the SZ (as an example) has that the NS7II lacks but this is in NO way a hate post. Again I praise the NS7II for what it is. It is certainly a kick ass machine and If you want spinning platters there simply is NO better solution controller-wise. The touch sensitive knobs don't hurt either.

I won't go into it too much here as anyone interested could simply check the link I posted but I just am a little "deterred" by Numark's claims and don't know how much I trust them as a whole..................... company speaking. The NS7II on its own though is a masterpiece no doubt.

Is this DVS mode or THRU mode you heard of................. which may be only available with the DVS expansion similar to how the Akai AMX handles it. I can't see why they would have done this but I suppose it is possible.


In terms of the NS7II again I can't see this being the way of it. The DVS (time code) is litreallly using files that ARE on the computer and I can't see the record feature not working here................. do you happen to have a link where you saw/heard this?

I do really like the platters on the ns7ii. The only thing I don't care for is having to use the pitch bend buttons instead of moving the vinyl itself while mixing. That's why I want the DVS support so I can also have that real deal 12" vinyl feel.

I can understand 100%. Not for nothing when i get the itch for the vinyl experience I need vinyl myself. The NS7II comes close but not for nothing you are not saving much on space or weight (some yes just not a TON) so I say go big or go home. Saving on needles is great and all but I don't use the TT's all that much as it is. Like I said when i get the want for spinning platters.................... I want the tone arm & the strobe & the weight. I WANT IT ALL lol.

Let's be honest. Even some turntables don't give you the proper vinyl feel. I need proper TT's in my life.

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I just got the Stanton str8 150s and I love them. Missed having tables after getting rid of my ttxs a few years ago.

Yes as is you are certainly correct.

"While the DVS feature is enabled the Serato dj program can not record a mixed sound from the ddjsx2


This is crazy to me. You know I never even checked if my akai amx can record while in DVS mode and I wonder if this is how the "DVS upgrade ready" devices will work. I can tell you the DVS enabled devices (DDJ-sZ 900srt, rane 64 etc) allow full recording.

Just to add to this the NS7II will "allegedly" (as in if it happens at all) utilize DVS via the DVS expansion upgrade as well so outlook not so good there either. I will check on my Akai AMX though and see if it allows recording of DVS sources.


This is certainly news to me though. I do not own the SX2 though. I was going to get it (or the NV) but opted for the S8 instead.

I know right. It seems incomplete without it. For most people if they knew that they would probably avoid purchasing an upgrade to DVS. If that's the case with the ns7ii I may just upgrade my sl1 box to an sl3 or sl4 or possibly a rane 62 or 64. I do have an external cd recorder but I prefer recording internally.

ABsolutely. WHY offer it if you can't use it? Not for nothign some people are purchasing these controllers BECAUSE of the DVS expansion. I am very surprised this has not been a huge issue TBH. Are people really not trying to record their sets with DVS? Maybe I am just slow in not knowing this............. I don't know but this is kinda a big deal to me.


Not for nothing I can't see this staying the way it is for long. I know the SX2 (and similar units) work with VDJ & Traktor. How you gonna say that the ONLY software you can NOT record with is the one that comes with the controller???!!! LOL

The die hard Serato guys will look for alternate software BUT this pretty much guarantees ANYONE else who absolutely HAS to record a set (for a radio show, DJ residency, or resume etc) will be forced to use alternate software............. not good!

Not good at all. I'm hoping that the ns7ii will be able to record with it. I know that the SZ it can be done.

As I said I know for a fact all the above hardware allows it but I am now assuming this is a difference between DVS upgrade ready and DVS enabled..............

That could be or it also might just be the hardware capabilities itself. We will see.

True dat!!

@Dave,

What are the differences between the SZ & NS7 2?? What make the SZ the better of the 2 in YOUR opinion.

Please don't state the obvious, lol!

Again this is my opinion only but here goes:

First the use of Traktor is HUGE for me as I have progressively gotten more involved with it. The dual sound card comes in SUPER handy but not for the typical reason as in I am in NO WAY concerned with alternate DJ's using my gear.

They are now including VDJ Infinity Pro license that I have been able to use ANY controller with which surprises me. I do wish being it is Pioneer that Rekordbox was allowed but I suppose I can settle with the other three applications.

I am not in front of them at the moment thus am at a semi loss but I will answer later on with a bit more. I am again trying to avoid those obvious things found in the specs.

I do however STILL wish the platters were not only the CDJ size but pressure sensitive like they are as well.

Again the NS7II is a beast IMO. Kickass controller. I just don't think it is quite easy enough to call it the King of controllers or the best controller ever made..... (Here comes the zinger)..... PERIOD!!!

At the same time I don't think I would much like the same claim being made over at Pioneer. In the end remember they are kind of two different animals. Same species different breed. In short they are IMO going after a different target customer. BOTH are needed though and BOTH are effective. Not for nothing if I hated the NS7II I would not have bought it. Furthermore the NS7II was the controller that gave be a fresh outlook on Numark a a whole. I WAS one of those guys who slammed them due to being burned prior to their current line of gear. One thing I do notice.................. their beginner controllers are still made like garbage. Reloop, Denon, Pioneer, Vestax, etc. all being superior in quality.


The NS6 (I HAD and was OK IMO) was the cutoff point for build it seems. As in where it started getting good again. The NS7 (I didn't have) was a tank but lacked features. The NS7II was ultimately what appealed to me again. Yet the NV lost my attention and I did not purchase. STILL made very well it seems just did not feel right. From the Play buttons to the platter size ................. everything seemed wrong for me.

I sound like a broken record but I am only making claims of my opinions. I do not claim to know it all or that my way is even the best. It is simply what works for me is all. If you use something I claimed was not all that good more power to you and it exemplifies the diversity of the DJ community is all.

I wil get back to you with the finer details though :)

dvs for large controllers is just a gimmick feature used to attract noob djs because once a DJ gains experience and earns enough money they will immediately run out and buy a dedicated mixer for their turntables or cdj's and never use the feature again.

Thanks for the info pdiddy lol

As I posted in the other thread GOOD NEWS!! The AMX supports DVS recording so this is NOT a DVS upgrade expansion issue. This IS in fact apparently exclusive to the SX2.................

Im thinking about skipping the wait for the DVS support and purchasing an AMX or a SL3 or SL4. Any suggestions DJ Dave?

I still will expand NS7ii if it is released though. Im just itching for some more DJ technology.

SL4 all the way!! I have an SL3 and to this day I regret not getting the 4 instead.

If you already have a mixer I'd just go wih the 4

For the price I have no choice but to recommend the AMX. If you are a performance based DJ etc (nightclubs or scratching) the AMX is great. It lacks some customizing options but for $350 (including ($99 for DVS) you get a lot.


As far as SL3 or SL4............ I agree with the SOUNDINSURGENT.

This typy of device is ROCK solid so I actually recommend second hand for the price advantage. It is not like there are any physical parts to wear, bleed or break. Again IF you have a mixer and TT's already the SL4 is a killer idea.

Yep have to agree on the SL4! Even though I own the 900SRT, AMX, DDJ-SX and used to own a 68, the SL4 has more playtime than all of those combined! It comes with me on at least 90% percent of my gigs.

My apologies to djxcellerator the above rant is directed at superstar DJ Pdiddy. I failed to spot you had quoted his god like insight on your post.

Thanks for the info guys. I heard something about the volume gain on the amx sounds low. Is that true Dave? Would it be a good idea to pair the amx with a pioneer sp1 instead of a pair of afx's?

I personally own the Reloop Neon, Akai AFX and SP1 and I do just that. Ideally two AFX units would be nice but then again the size of the pads are not preferred on the SP1 along with the dual sets.

The volume of the AMX is a problem for some. At least they are reporting so. I am not sure what they are using in terms of sound reinforcement (PA) but personally this has not been an issue for me on my portable setup or my stationary setup.

Thanks Dave. If the expansion pack for NS7ii isn't released then I might get the amx or preferably a used sl4. I wish Numark could just give us a straight answer already.