Your gauging a 30 year old TT against new Technology I think the 1210 held it's own for 30 year old technology!

i'll keep my old technics 1210 mk2's... they have paid for a lot of equipment. besides i just upgraded all the LED's so now their modern...

It's a an advertising piece... Fong Fong is sponsored by Reloop.

It is neither a technical A/B nor an unbiased review - it's a commercial!

At the end they list the advantages

Reloop

High torq- My slipmats and record choice can change this for me at any time.
2 start, stop buttons- cool feature, but for who? A DMC type routine?
Ultra pitch, lcd- I like the LCD visual of it, but I dont personally need extra pitch control.
Midi pads- very dope, probably the most looked at feature of this unit.
Reverse- no thanks, dont need to hear the devil speak.

Ha ha ha

^^This^^

we all know your going to have your realistic/technics well into your 90's and still not have one single uplight

HA HA….. ;-)

huh? Speak english

THIS Should HELP YOU!
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Whatever your problem is take your meds son quit trolling jeez do idiots ever grow up!

maybe if you stop being a idiot your self, your jumping in talking without knowing anything, me and johnny were having a conversation that has nothing to do with you in another tread….i'm messing with him , and here you come acting stupid! was anyone talking to you? no

so who exactly is the idiot that needs to grow up here?































look in the mirror

that's what private messages are for DUMASS.

i'm out i have better things to do then argue with some random ass wannabee.

dj jamalot = dj DUMASS

i concur

Hey, I'm not the ONLY one who uses "Vintage" equipment... :-)

serato.com

this is even better

dj jamalot = dj DUMASS random wannabee!



peace out SON!

www.djjohnnym.com

sorry i meant to say

dj jamalot = dj DUMASS random ass wannabee!

i'll be whatever you say meanwhile i gotta go cash some checks you hang out in a chatroom.

i can do that my checks go strait to my business account, no need to cash anything

peace out & merry christmas dj DUMASS random ass wannabee!

when you end out the night at a gig do you be like

Ladies and Gentlemen my name is dj DUMASS random ass wannabee! it has been my pleasure to be your DUMASS for the night thank you?

i would pay a entrance fee just to see this!

that technichs sh-ex-1200 mixer is light years ahed of realistic, just saying

back on topic

Technics MK2 Vs Reloop RP8000

carry on ;)

real dj's don't push buttons! We spin records... lol A record is analog a timecode disc is not
a record it doesn't make music. FYI but you knew that... and your right my check deposits every tuesday you see this DJ has a 5 year contract and doesn't move anything I just show up and show out step your game up son.

i don't move anything but money... how's your back?

my back is great i now push buttons as i only carry controllers (ddj sx,ddj sr &v ci 380) now a day the turntables stay home

so that makes me not a real dj i guess, o well i'll just have to settle for the real money i'm making

you see this dj makes his living from djing it's how i pay the mortgage bill car note etc, what are you still doing here dj DUMASS random ass wannabee! didn't you have some checks to cash?

ps

i hope you show out at your gigs ALOT better than your trying to do here ;)

sorry SELECT, i don't want to derail your thread…..as your where gentleman carry on

Didn't we determine earlier in the week you were a salesman?


:P

dj not real salesmen, thats me so long as the money i make is real i'm ok with it ;)

So why is my still working? :-)

And just an FYI...

I actually OWN one of those ->www.google.com

And the fader bled after 2 weeks...

Brought it back, same thing....

LOL...

www.djjohnnym.com

Shots fired....

that would be adorable

na , cause the checks are real ;)

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those mixers were the shit when they came out, sadly the fader quality was shit also thats why they included a extra one in the box, i never did get one i got a rane 52 instead, still it would be nice to have one with a set of gold 1200gld or 1200ltd

I bought that jawn because, "eh" it was where the "Technology" was going at the time.

Yep, that extra fader located in the bottom of the mixer went out after 2 weeks also.

I think Nicky had the 2nd or 3rd generation version, with better faders...

After spending 400.00 bucks on a 2 week mixer, I went RIGHT back to the Realistic, slapped a new fader (ordered a few back in the day, maybe 4 or 5 bucks apiece), and was back on my grind.

Again, the ONLY person worried about what another DJ is using is..who?

Another DJ.

i was tempted but the rane 52 was a great buy for me, those were the days that i didn't really make money & did not upgrade at all, that thing lasted me 9 years, i sold it and it's still being used today

I actually OWN one of those ->www.google.com

And the fader bled after 2 weeks...

Brought it back, same thing....

I can contest to that. I won one in 2003 and our DMC eliminations and I practiced on it after that and both faders bled just over a week of use.

Well this degraded quite quickly

Says the guy with 3 controllers on his profile page. Tell me how do you scratch vinyl on your NS7? Or how do you get them to work without pressing buttons.

OOOOOHHHHHHH SNAP SON!!!!!! SHOTS FIRED SHOTS FIRED!!!!! BUP BUP BUP!!!!! CALL DEH POLICE!!!!!! lol

bang bang bang!!!!!

nm nh

yep, that post history will get you every time and keep you honest.

Watchwww.youtube.com

just sayin.....

Here's a classic thread from him.

www.djchat.com

My favorite quote is "I can push buttons with the best of them now it's so easy."

Oh, snap! Y'all are doing investigative work now....

do we need to have this conversation again, or is it that you just like to talk a lot? WE me & you addressed this in another tread, but i'll say it again maybe your a little dee dee dee

look here to find definition of dee dee dee---> Watchwww.youtube.com


i was that guy saying TT forever ,now i embraced the new technology and stopped talking shit about it now i have option, i can rock out with tt or controllers i wont be that dj showing up to a gig saying umm i can't use that i'll dj with what ever you put in front of me. & when did i say i had a ns7? i have ddj sx ddj sr & vci 380



who are we talking about here? cause it's not me!


to recap yes i got into controllers & i'm glad i did i love them now but don't get it twisted this is still my first love--> imageshack.com

lol……..i retract my previous statement i just realized you were talking to dj DUMASS random ass wannabee!



*****apologizes than runs and hides*****

Willing to retract that Gear Whore statement yet? :-)

You guys have wayyy too much time on your hands you fail too see I started with 1200's when you was playing with your sisters dolls yea I said it the comment was directed at tru button pushin dj's using virtual dj and sync too make their mixes stay tight. Yep I'm I love gear I buy all the time you fools are too much godda life son I'm ordering a new 62 too replace my 57 since it runs Serato DJ should I post a link to that as well y'all sum bitch ass niggas get a funk life son!

Fu##in life bitches and I don't hide from nobody I'm not hard to find!

And my number is not unlisted I make no fake profile like you bitch A$$ Niggas with no life
And no dj gigs posers.

who's whoring? whats a gear whore? i have no knowledge of this "gear whore" term
imageshack.com ;)


ps

that one random uplight is just for you johhny……..lol


you sir might benefit from this----> www.masteringanger.com

georgekostuch.com

Awwww look at DJ Jamalot, him mad cuz him skirt got pulled up. Now him wanna fight. Here try some of these tips. They might help you out. www.wikihow.com

FYI...If you use a controller with ANY software SeratoDJ, Tracktor, Virtual DJ...you are a button pusher. It is what it is.

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no for real this is hilarious…..LMAO

i'm voting the as one of the top ten treads of the year

DJ Jamlot nice set up. Those JBLs look like they are loud as shit. What are they 200 watts?

www.djjamalot.com

a select i tried to get this tread back on track! but it's to far gone now this is officially a new tread about

dee dee dee dj DUMASS random ass wannabee

why does the speaker on the left say NOE instead of EON? what are these bootleg JBL's

He got those special edition next level shit bro.

he really need to update his sign as follows

DUMASS MOBILE DJ's
when all you want is a random ass wannabee dj that don't make you
call on us

shit ^ don't make you dance

Are you guys aware that bands will make her dance.

You cant make this shit up

So if real djs dont push buttons...

And you push buttons

But you are not a TRU button pusher (i shudder to think thats a real term)


Da fuq does that make you?

m.quickmeme.com

weknowmemes.com

Joe called he wants his speaker back

When I saw the title of this thread and the postcount somehow I knew it had devolved into hilarity...

and here i was excited to read up on these reloops....

u guys suck....lol

Lol. Its the usual suspects, smh.

This thread got really DUMB really fast.....

and thats what happens when dj DUMASS random ass wannabee! comes in and starts trash talkin


he train wreck/derails the hole conversation, can you blame him tho after all his name is dj DUMASS

I can not help but think of this every time you type dumass.....

Watchwww.youtube.com

watch the whole thing so you get the point....

hahaha….haven't seen that commercial in year….the name is doom ahsss

not to be confused with dj DUMASS random ass wannabee who's probably out cashing checks right now

let me try to get this tread back on track

HEY dj DUMASS, what do you think about the Reloop RP8000 i meant do we really need all those midi buttons? couldn't we just use good ol trusty tech 12's and add dicers?

what do you think dj DUMASS?

does anyone have any real world experience with reloop turntable? are these thing really a alternative to 1200's or are they just the new cool toy on the block?

Well here it is, Dj Angelo showcase on the Reloop Rp8000. Looks like he uses some loop rolls, cue points, Watchwww.youtube.com

i'm not sold on these TT's just yet, didn't really see him do anything that you couldn't do with dicers

At this point, with tech and r&d being what it is; it shouldn't been to hard to make a deck that performs as solid as a 1200.

But one thing that can not be measured is endurance.

So it will be interesting to see in ages years how these how up.
For sure; the more moving parts, the more problems.

It is NOT in the best interest of the company to build a product that lasts a long as a 1200.

Stanton 150s have been good so far all these years.

How many is "all these" years?

Well in this day and age everything is about quantity before quality. I would like for this thing to sell well and maybe drive turntable adaptation or create a new market for newer turntables.

I feel you on this, but if you look at the marketplace of ANYTHING, what has lasted as long as a 1200?

Again, my vote for quote of the year - its a 1200 it'll last longer than most people's dj careers

What happened when Rane built the 57 as stable as it did? And then wanted to put NEW technology out?

Corporations now build things with the expectation that it will eventually fail, and that an upgrade would be necessary.

in general nothing is as it was, 30 years ago products were made to last in todays day and age the already thinking about the next new model before the original is out

THIS^^^

And exactly why if I find something that WORKS, I stick with it, until it becomes costly to maintain, unrepairable, ineffective, or incompatible.

true, but still there comes a time were a working dj should upgrade his gear, but agreed buy the right thing and you will have it for a long long time


take for example sl1 or a ttm57…..do you really need to upgrade? even when serato SL is discontinued that don't mean you can't use it, i have a boy that still uses a rane mp4 mixer & they stopped support for this mixer how long ago

the average party goer knows nothing about sound quality & will not know the difference in sound between a tom 57 & a rane 62, the only reason we upgrade soooo much is the want NOT the need to have the latest and greatest


is a out dated version of serato going to play you music any different? i think not…a tm57 & a pair of 12's will serve you well for years to come, but i think the BEST bang for the buck now a days is a ttm56 & sl2

one more thing johnny prepare to take that ttm56 to the grave with you cause it will NOT die, i just might outlast you


now comes the question are you going to buy 20 of those and take pictures of all of them together?

Correct, but WHO makes that determination?

The person actually USING the gear, or some other DJ offering HIS opinion of when another DJ needs to "Upgrade"?

A lot of times, cats make suggestions based on the fact that THEY THEMSELVES have spent "X amount of money to upgrade" and feel as though OTHERS should "Invest" in the game like themselves.

However, they MOST TIMES, haven't the slightest clue of what "Really" lasts, and what the CUSTOMER expects.

The CUSTOMER expects us to "Crush It' by any means necessary.

It's not like they're providing a rider of the equipment we should use to commence with said "Crushing".

As long as we get the job done.

DJ's try to gain respect from OTHER DJ's for a myriad of reasons...

Sometimes it's procuring the shiniest new mixer with bells and whistles...

Sometimes it's killing a party with the bare necessities....



This is part of the "ineffective/incompatible" category I mentioned above.

The SL1 and TTM57 had their tombstones engraved when they came out with the SL3. It was a VAST leap in sound quality. For ME, that's an instant reason to upgrade when I already thought the SL1/57 sound quality was suspect. This of course coming from a former vinyl purist.

This of course was WAY before there was any announcement of discontinuing their support. Cats have different triggers for upgrading their equipment. Nobody else can set that threshold for them.



Again, that's the DJ in question's prerogative. Nobody elses.



That's not true.

Apparently there are LIBRARY issues with the Serato DJ which WOULD cause you to POSSIBLY play your music differently....

(BTW, I'll wait for all those bugs to get fixed in Serato DJ before I move over.)



We're ALMOST in sync, as I think a TTM56s and an SL3 (and SSL) is the best bang for your buck...well at least for me and my demographic...

And I have been running with that config since the SL3 dropped.

That is the REASON I bought it.

That fader dipped in Coke ad was the clincher.



The life expectancy of the 56s is still yet to be determined.

But what's funny is that it seems to have ALREADY outlasted the 57...(no button complaints, etc..)...in both hardware AND software categories.

For example, the ONLY reason I bought a Rane 56 was because the STYLE of DJ'ing became extremely oriented around fader tricks and such.

The Realistic simply did not have the type of fader to keep up, you can't do crabs on there.

But there are things I can do on the Realistic that I can't do on the Rane, and vice versa.

If I never posted an actual vid of me on the Realistic, you'd swear I was killing it on a new and improved mixer, not something from 1985.

Same thing with Jazzy Jeff and Cash Money, they could post audio of them killing it on a Gemini, and nobody would EVER know the difference if they didn't see a vid.

And truth be told, they could still do things on that Gemini that cats today can't do on the latest and greatest mixers of now.

ok what the hell are you talking about here? whether i use scratchLive 1.9.2 or serato dj 1.5.2 it does not change the fact that i load a song in the virtual deck & play it


the library issues has nothing to do with how you play your music, witch I've never had by the way serato dj works well for me…..the issue is that some people with large libraries/alot of crates serato dj crashes on them mostly pc users by the way, i think it has something to do with large file paths

all the more reason for YOU to buy a mac ;)


point i was trying to make we can rock out a party whether we are djing with a sl1 and a realistic mixer or a brand new rane 64 the client will be happy either way

Which would cause you to have to ALTER your library, THINK in advance of what you MAY want to play, thus changing HOW you could POSSIBLY play your music, and remove songs that come out as LEAST likely to play based on your thought process.

You're thinking of the sheer technical aspect of loading a track, vs. the "on the fly" programming tactics of some DJ's who may program based on how the mood hits them.

That effectively changes HOW they may play.

Again you catering to the client FIRST vs. catering to YOURSELF first.

If you as a DJ want to put out a Quality Sounding performance, then something like the difference of SL1 vs. SL3 means everything to you.

Another DJ cannot discount what a different DJ should view as Important.

Hence, what now has happened is that the DJ who now achieves the sound quality they want may perform better knowing that they're giving their "client" the BEST that they could give them, from their perspective.

C'mon son, did you just make that up on the fly, just now?



LOL, so I should go spend a few G's based on your Hypothesis of large fine paths?

LMAO...

lol…..i don't know why i get into debates with you i should know better i can't win, i play the same way in serato dj as i would in scratchLive.


i didn't make this up, if you spend some time in the serato dj forum you will see most of the people having issues are pc users more so than mac users, serato dj doesn't even support windows 8---> serato.com

serato.com

serato.com

serato.com

i look and see nothing about problems with mac, pc thats another story

I have Windows 8, i3, 1.1 USB device (SL1), and no issues. And I'm running 0 buffer latency. *shrugs*

Windows 8 is now supported.......

"Windows 8 and 8.1 are not currently supported for use with Serato software. There are many users running Serato software with Windows 8 and 8.1 without problem, but official support for an Operating System takes time due to the rigorous testing required.

We are working towards our software supporting Windows 8 and 8.1 by fixing issues as they come up and furthering our testing. We are happy for users to test their setups with Windows 8 and 8.1, but until we are certain of their reliability we recommend that users don't perform using them. "

OK I use the wrong word, I should of said 'it is compatible with windows 8'.........

Things like this could give the wrong impression when it comes to Windows 8,

www.digitaldjtips.com

Could it possibly be that there are MORE WINDOWS users than Mac users which are skewing the numbers?

****Trying my best not to turn this into a MAC vs. WINDOWS debate*****

But that's YOU....Feel me?

For example, let's take a DJ that loves to do "Remixes" on the fly...

Let's say someone want to do, "Wheels Of Steel"...

Due to library constraints, they MAY not have enough room on their harddrive to include Good Times, Another One Bites The Dust, Rapture, Birthday Party, 8th Wonder, Monster Jam, Apache, Freedom, and Life Story.

He'd just be left with playing the Original "Wheels Of Steel" vs. a remix using those 8 additional joints....assuming he's use MOST of them only for remix purposes...

Can you imagine Enferno having that limitation? Jazzy Jeff?

C'mon son....



The quicker you realize this, the happier you'll be... :-)

But nah, you bring up good points, my job is to let you see it from a more seasoned view.

I DO take into consideration a lot of points you make.

well as for me a have no limitations in what i can have in my hard drive that i know of, i use a 4tb drive 3tb's


in my circle (and its big) i know not one dj that uses pc we all use macs


"The quicker you realize this, the happier you'll be... :-)"

ps

i'm very happy on my macs--> imageshack.com , got the pinks on top just for you

Lol! Those are some hideous headshells though...

Laughed out loud and i'm at work lol,great line when u think about how it sounds lol

SOUNDS LIKE JOEE AND DJ JAMALOT NEED TO SPEAK WITH THERE HANDS AND NOT THERE MOUTH, DJ BATTLE!!!!

huh?

^^Ditto where'd that come from???

But i'm at the Presidio of monterey every weekend for the next 3 years drop by & he can bring his gear i'll Battle his Check Book...

Techs have done well...if the RP-8000 is well made...it'll take over....but in the end...we need another option...something that's like a turntable,with vynl you never have to change,generates it's own time code signal/HID ,no tone arms , change of cartridges,full color screen like on the Nexus and able to read USB drives,Networkable..it'd sell really well.

The reason i suggest this option is because most of us who love TT's use time code...never play real records on them...so buying cartridges and dealing with tone arms, is kinda of a waste.

what do you guys think...a digital Turn table...i'd buy one asap with the specs i listed

I think you just described the Denon SC-3900: Watchwww.youtube.com

full color screen like the Nexus and a real 12" Vynl and no CD slot.basically a real digital vynl deck that we'd all want...the sc3900 is cool but it's not there yet...though it's the closest thing

Ahh. Thinking about mobile gigs, I'd prefer they keep the CD slot (unless it adds a ridiculous amount to the price).

i hear ya but that adds to the weight and it's a rarely used feature...i for one use cds maybe 10 times a year...you can always drop the CD in your laptop :-)

In the past SSL + CD's in the laptop = tears. lol

i figured out the problem...it's itunes trying to take charge and serato doing the same lol...make sure itunes is closed then eject otherwise it wouldn't come out lol

I figured that one out; this was something different. Whenever I tried to play off a CD (which was only a couple of times, granted, but I wasn't gonna give it a third go) the waveform could never keep up with the playhead, even if I waited for it to build the track's overview before playing. As a result the audio would play for a couple of seconds, drop out, play for another couple of seconds, drop out, etc. until the track was done.

This was back in 2011-2012 so it may have been fixed by now (it worked great in Itch).

So like. About the RP-8000 vs 1200 comparison before this became a dick swinging contest