I would have to try it.
I don't like Vestax or Nu-Mark TTs so...
This shit would have to have the right feel to it.
Buttons schmuttons.
They need a stripped down, less expensive version.

And why would they not put those cues on the top of the deck?
So when I flip them shits from disco to hip-hop, they line up next to the mixer!
Suprised no key lock feature with all the other bells and whistles.

Not a replacement.

I would be more interested in seeing a 12" motorized, midi platter with stupid knobs,strips,pads and a gyroscope and motion sensors.

Who's going to be playing "real" vinyl on these joints?
Unless it had on-board, analog samplers on the decks for that.

I am actually waiting for the release, if they are in the 400-600 range, I wouldn't mind picking up a pair.



Reloop 6000
www.reloop.com

Wow, haha thanks XCAKID. Shoulda searched a little!

LOL, no worries. I have actually had Reloop on my radar for a couple of years now. I was only hesitant because there was only a small amount of distributors here in the US. Although they seem to have a great following in Europe.

Here's a nice review of the RP6000, if the 8000 is gonna be anything like it, it will be an awesome TT.

youtu.be

Cool turntable for those do not have (or don't want) midi controls on their mixer.

there's also this: www.reloop.com

i think the Black 7000 will become the standard, if it has the construction we are accustomed to from the 1200. Yes, the 8000 is nice but to be honest I dont like all them damn buttons

i just wish they would get themselves a damn distributer in Canada

the extra start•stop looks like its taking space from more midi buttons

viable yes, as its another "super-oem" table like stanton 150's, Audio Technica AT-alp1240, american audio htd 4.5, with more bells n whistles, but you won't be seeing these in clubs or as a standard how many stanton 150's have you seen in a club?

I wonder how many of these 8000's will move in the US as i didnt see their other table, the Reloop 6000 mk6 move that well.

Whats the 2nd start button for? I seen a few tables have this, whats the use?

Those that have it set up in battle mode, puts the start/stop in the same spot as if it would be if you set it up in traditional.

For me, I have gotten so used to playing battle mode, that when I go to a standard set up, I find myself grabbing the Hinge Covers trying to adjust the pitch.

Battle mode is how I always play unless the set I am jumping up on is standard.

anyone one what the price will be?

They say around 799 eruos on the high end models (One with the midi buttons all over it)

Read somewhere, can't recall now, that it will be around $700 each

Is there any advantage to this?

Makes it hard to rock dicers.

I had a play around with one at the BPM show...

As far as the deck itself goes, it's a Super OEM. A decent 'current' alternative to 1200s; in exactly the same way as the Stanton 150 and all the others are.

In terms of the midi buttons, they seem to work well enough; a little spongy for my liking, but that's just personal taste.

Position-wise, I couldn't get the needle to jump when hitting the buttons with normal force, so I think they've got the positioning right.

The big problem it faces, is that even after the increase of used Tech prices, I could still score a pair of MK2s and some Dicers for around the price of one 8000...

Great point phatbob. Here in NYC, there are a lot of 1200's for sale. You can score a pair for under $700 very easily. With that being said why not stick to industry standard.

you don't need dicers - it has buttons already

Serato has always stated that you need a Serato box/mixer to run any HID. Is this true with this new turntable? Does it send the audio back to the turntable to then plug in to any mixer? Or do you still need a box for the audio output?

If it don't say Serato on it...

Yeah I figured out that the USB is MIDI only. Took me about 10 different product descriptions to find that information.

Yeah, I can't think of a real advantage but it might be cool to have a Serato deck.

Just talked to a Reloop Distributor in the USA......

Reloop 8000/7000release dates are late January early February

Reloop 8000 price as of now..... $999.00 approx

Reloop 7000 price is $700.00 approx.

I kinda like the 7000/8000, but don't really have a reason why. I don't even need new decks, or would ever sell my 1210s, but I am interested in checking it out.

I've also been looking for a decent pair of M5Gs...again i don't even need it...smh

Out now: djworx.com

i considering the 7000s, although i cant justify the purchase bc in own 2 pairs of 1200s & one pair of cdjs...but hey when did buying equipment ever have to make sense. they look cool

After playing on some Stanton 150s, the more powerful motor really does give the turntable a more solid feel IMO......

If you watched the "Grandmaster Jay" I am a DJ video on youtube where you saw he make a newbie mistake by pressing down on his record so hard it actually stopped the platter, well these Super OEM motors are much stronger..... No more newbie stops of the platter unless you physically grab the damn thing.

The dial button for start stop time is also a cool feature as well as the 50 percent pitch up and down range vs MK2s 8+/- or the M5Gs 16+/-

All in all, I have yet to hear a bad review of the recent releases of the "Super OEM" style turntables (except the first generation Numark TTXs if you count those)

I've been waiting in anticipation for a company in this day an age to release a turntable in a controller filled market and I finally got it. Everything I loved about my 1200s/1210 wrapped in some new features.....

If Panasonic was to for some reason Drop a 1210 MK12 with all the same features, would I get it!!!??? Hell ya.

do these reloops not have a bit of a light plastic feel to them to though? I always thought they would

The weight on them things is about 21 lbs so a bit lighter then the techs. According to these spec sheets its an all metal top plate like the technics.

www.pssl.com

Available starting tomorrow for $799.99

Lower then what I expected.

Only think I am concerned about this new table, reloop rp 8000 is:

wow and flutter:

is it made in Germany and real parts: not from China

adjustment of the tonearm: are they solid

solid pads:

Can the weight of the tables hold up:

21 pounds

We know super oems wow and flutter is not with the technics and

the tonearm assembly has to be adjusted

Nice! who's gonna order 1st??

Of course this guy.......... ;-)


But I am debating if I should get the 8000 or the 7000s......... When I had dicers, I found myself seldom using them so will having Midi Buttons on my turntables be worth the extra $250.00????

yes they are the bomb with same wow and flutter and MK5gs

get them :

if you want them.

just adjust the arm assembly , if you can

Reloop Rp 8000 Controller

i say get 7000s those buttons are just clutter

don't those buttons just take the place of dicers? if so i can't see the need for the 8000

I believe they also have the pad effects mapped to them which you can't do with dicers with SDJ. The tables are built for SDJ. If your never gonna upgrade from SSL to SDJ then get the 7000's with dicers otherwise I'd go with the 8000's.

Plus there are 8 buttons for the upcoming 8 cue points of Serato DJ instead of the 5 on the dicers.

You have to get use to those buttons but reloop put more wow and flutter improvements
in the rp8000 with its digital pitch control.

and also torque adjustments , so you can slow down the table platter for the feel of 1200s because believe , me it you are doing trick at 4.5 torque and hit the platter by mistake , you can break your finger , because the platter hangs on the top of the tables.

i still use my mk2s even though , my lights are broken, but i already replaced the tonearms
and rca cables my self.

you have to adjust to the buttons

I can keep my tables on quartz lock and let serato do the bpm matching while i am
blending and that make wow and flutter better because the software improves it.

but if you want rp 7000 get it.

the won't be clutter just slow the torque down and use them for special occasions

We all know mk2s and mk5 are the best

Reloop just put out this produce demo feat dj Angelo:

Watchwww.youtube.com

wow , cramppy buttons, Goood good , Stuff stuff, but Iill save my other comments

for the 2 minutes later, Super Oems are getting better!

LIKE

Funny thing is...if these were made by Rane, everyone in here would be geeked! But just because they're made by Reloop...

What advantages do these have over 1200's with dicers?

8 buttons vs 5, higher torque, new which means warranty although also means not time-tested, replacement parts are readily available. That's probably it.

track selector, RCA plugs, less setup hassle

Line/Phone out......

Even the pop up light is easily replaceable if broken since its literally and pop in pop out light....

I remember the first time trying to replace the light on my Technics, I wanted to shoot someone.

Considering these are another superOEM variation, they basically are time tested

I guess, I dont really like the 'modes' are named. but thats not that bi of deal.

I remember charging HANDSOMELY for that...

Reloop this

Watchwww.youtube.com

If that's what Reloops make you do I'll stick to my 1200's.

Wait...... Did he simply just rip audio directly from Angelo's promo????

No, that was nowhere near as good as Angelo.

Woooooow!

That was....ummmm
Interesting

Don't get me wrong.

I actually like these turntables. Not a giant fan of that routine though.

I'm wondering what would be the best serato mixer to use with these?

The 61 maybe?
It has the serato card and the tables have the controls.

Maybe?

^ thats what I was thinking.... shhh...

rock a 62 and have the ultimate DJ spaceship command station.

Rock a 64 with 2 turntables and 2 cdjs and 2 MacBooks.......

And have the Ultimate.........

DJ........

BATTLESTAR!!!!!!!!!!!

VIPERS AWAY!!!!!!! LAUNCH THE ALERT FIGHTERS!!!! GET EM STARBUCK!!!!

You are telling your age. That probably went straight over their heads.

I would have bet cash money thinking I was the only one (aside from Thundercat) who understood that reference.....

Surprised you did not mention the cool Cylons.

We getting old if we talking about the original tv series.
Lol

LOL "getting"?

Did anybody say "G-Force"?

that COULD apply to the NEW Battlestar Galactica as well...

Although I remember and watched the original series.... up until the part when they finally find earth and its like earth in the 70s and they have to secretly defend it.... (Oh wow how lame)

I loved the New reboot they did a few years back........ Wow holy crap its been quite a few years since they did that reboot....

Crap, I am old no matter which version of the show I pick!!! lol

The reboot was perfect fit for our generation

I never saw the reboot. This is all I know.

thescifichristian.com

I could get fully into the slow paced story line of the original..... You should really check out the reboot. Having watched both, the new one is like 1000 times better.

It's probably a great show, but sometimes nothing beats the nostalgia of your youth.

If you enjoyed it as a youth, the reboot the adult version - not just a new kids version
(no star wars)

^^^THIS^^^

AND Richard Hatch( the ORIGINAL Apollo) is in it and is sort of a villain as well. Love the way they did it!

So has anybody got these yet?? Really thinking of taking the dive and grabbing a set........

Same here...

Placing my order after the new years

Yup same here I think, lol! The wife isn't gonna be to happy, Lmao!!

I was thinking about saving a little bit by getting the 7000s...... but I know that itch will be back to get the 8000s...

Kinda like when I got that CBR 600 as my first bike and then after a few months I was like I should have gotten a 1000....

Kinda like when I picked up a set of MK2s and was like..... I should have gotten the MK5.....
And when I got the MK5 I was like.... I should have just gotten the M5G.........

Kinda like when I went with the fat one instead of the skinny one........

Has Grandmaster Jay returned?

Who????















LOL

Placed my order today........ For a pair of 8000s..... But won't ship till the 5th of January.... :-/...... Bummed.....

Congrats man I'm jealous. Send us a youtube!

make sure you tell us what you think ;)

For sure!

got meself a pair of these... early days yet,, still setting up, but heres a quick vid..
tt's are great tho, and have what im looking for in tt's...FUN.. thanks.

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Watchwww.youtube.com

Daddio,

How do the buttons feel? Do you feel that you might hit them on accident during a set??

Lunizus..
No, don't feel like you will hit them by accident.. takes a bit of getting use to having extra buttons on a TT, but the buttons are stable / rubber so would take something to touch them accidently..

What mixer are you using?

Behringer nox 404..

It says there are mappers for ssl but what about sdj?

Anyone know how this works with sdj?

I have a 57sl but am thinking of getting the 64.

Anyone know how this will work?

Mines is shipping out monday.... Plan to do a full review using both SDJ Beta and SSL.....

But I am sure you can custom map them things anyway.

Videos like that make me wander.....that dude thought that was pretty good.....i think im pretty good sometimes.....i wander if when i think im doin pretty good if im acutually..........

In order to be any good you have to your biggest and harshest critic. No matter how many people tell you your good you always have to tell yourself you suck and need to practice more.

That's why any dj I hear tell me that they're awesome, I generally assume that they are mediocre at best.

I believe it's mapped for SDJ more than SSL. Why would it have 8 function buttons and not 5?

These guys are brave as hell....

Check out those DOPE ass slipmats....................

They moved the arrival date to the 10th of February....... :-/..... I'm sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo pissed......

Me too cause I'm waiting on you and your review.

If anyone is looking for Reloop stuff in the Saskatchewan or surrounding areas, get at me.

Full review-
Watchwww.youtube.com

djworx.com

I wonder if DJ Jazzy Jeff would use them?

than they would see them as official and would order like hot cake

I'll definitely get me a pair then. I'm really thinking about replacing my Denon 3700's with the rp8000 since I was only keeping my 1200's at home for use and bringing 3700's out in public. The rp-8000's would give me all the bells of both units on the road.

Jeff would use Beamz if the money was right

Think I was the first to try midi buttons on a turntable, maybe not,
serato.com

Between this and the Serato SL box in the 56 why yo no rich?

Because they are modifications, not inventions.


Wait, who said I wasn't rich?

How come people still waiting for these ?
they are readily available in uk ??
is reloop slow on release elsewhere??

Yea slow in the USA.

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(link) fail

Watchwww.youtube.com


this should do it....lol

Huh what?

1st link didnt work, but does now..

well : we really cant see anything of interest about the table

them midi buttons sure do seem very responsive ;)

unfortunately couldnt set cam up any where better..
midi buttons are responsive..

^ i know i can see from that vid, "it ain't nothing like hip hop music"

there certainly isnt...lol. .. will try for better camera angle another time......

yeah... better camera angle should about do it.

HAHAHAH

Watchwww.youtube.com

dope

indeed

Respect....

Keep at it daddio16.
You keep practicing! You gonna get waaaay better.

Post another video of what the turntables can do.

I'm still considering getting a pair of these.

Anyone besides daddio16 have em?
I silk have my techs and my ns6 and my ddj-sx.

I am considering the Reloop 8000 ' and a rane 62 or 64.
Also considering the ddj-sz.

PSSL tells me mid-february is when I shall receive mine.....

Watchwww.youtube.com

not following what he is doing when he stops the deck and hits cues

He's using the sample bank.

got it

Sick

That was very musical and nice on the ears.

Watchwww.youtube.com


nice review!!!

Mr Blaze on point as always.

Turns out the rumours WERE true after all, and audio does cut out when you turn the motor off, just in line output mode only. That's a shame.

Well I guess if you wanted that slow wind down you should keep it in Phono mode or use the start/stop break option

Come to think of it.... Does the Stantons do the same thing??? I never tried.... Lemme go see if mine does it.

I wondering if it will fit in a standard size case?

I ask because of the midi buttons. I wondering if this deck is a little wider than your average technic.

I wondering if it will fit in a standard size case?

I ask because of the midi buttons. I wondering if this deck is a little wider than your average technic.

Nice double tap.... lol

It should. It looks like they have the same dimensions and when you see pics and videos of these and technics side by side, they have eyeball gauged same sizes.

If you look at the platter, it seems that they have moved the platter further towards the tonearm and the tone arm closer to the edge to make room for the midi buttons.

You should be getting yours soon right?

Please let us know how these work with SERATO and if they fit in a standard case and how they preform and how the buttons are and how the build quality is and everything else about them.

Oh...

How they work with Serato DJ and SSL

Hopefully soon.

If PSSL can get their act together and get mines...... Grrrrrr, great company but damn..... I got me with the initial release date of 5 January 2014..... I ordered it and eventually they kept pushing the release date further and further.

Another Distributor, AV MAXX got like a few of them and sent them out within hours of receiving them.

I am seriously debating on calling one of my friends stationed in Europe to pick up a set for me.

That might not be a bad idea.

If pssl has not received them yet, if they have not shipped them yet, they should not have charged you yet.

You just might get them quicker if you ask a buddy in Europe to get them for you and to ship them to you.

Then again, pssl might get their shipment in tomorrow.

Who knows...

Yea man, the charged me up front and told me I was gonna get them shipped as soon as they got to the warehouse on the 5th of January..... Well that date is long gone.

I finally got someone to give me the down low details. Apparently the main US distributor only got a small handful and they seem to have went to all the big DJs and reviewers and I guess a pair went to display at NAMM.

Right now the suspected shipping date is end of February early March.

If you can get one of your buddies overseas to ship a pair to you, You may get them faster than waiting on pssl.

I'm waiting for Proaudiostar to get them in stock.

I still don't know what I want to do about a mixer though.

I have a 57sl that won't work with SDJ.
I just got a 62 that i'm not happy with using on SDJ
I am thinking of either the 64 or the 61.

The controls are on the decks so I don't really need all that on the mixer so a 61 MIGHT be perfect.
The 64 has all the bells and whistles and is designed for SDJ so maybe that would be better.

The 61 is WAAAY less expensive than the 64. The 61 fits in the same mixer case as the 62.

It's still a toss up.

Or... I may just get these and rock my Dicers.
www.ebay.com

Or...

I may just Plasti Dip my current 1200's and rock my Dicers.

OR...

I may Plasti Dip my 1200's, Sell em and buy either the green 12's or the Reloops.

Man I love my 62. I had a 61, 57, 56 w/dicers....... 62 Has been my favorite so far and even with SDJ, I substitute for the lack of buttons with my iPad and Serato Remote.

The plasti dipped 1200 on ebay method huh?
lol
nm

I might.

Have not decided yet.
My 1200's have brand new tone arms, internal grounding, calibrated and tuned just a few weeks ago so outside of the faceplate, they are in perfect condition.

A Lil plasti dip will go a looooong way to making them an outstanding purchase of I decide to sell them.

No because Stanton's have a separate power switch for this reason I believe.

So the switch only affects the motor only.

PSSL Is now saying they won't have any until March 7th at the earliest. Reloop needs to get their act together and ship some of these to the US!

ALSO, do NOT order these from AVmaxx.com , they jerked me around for a month saying that they had shipped the tables out but that the tracking number was wrong, then they told me that the truck they were on was robbed... total bullshit. Finally got a refund from them after weeks!

Noted.

Damn i almost ordered from them the other day!

RELOOP IF YOU ARE READING THIS..... PLEASE HURRY AND SEND MORE TO THE USA!!!!!!! PLEASE!!!!!!!!!

OTHERWISE........


I MIGHT......


MIGHT.......

ERRRRRRR.........


USE THE MONEY TO BUY A PIONEER DDJ-SZ..... (Runs and Ducks from flying beer bottles)

Still waiting....... :-/..............

Latest news from the primary USA Reloop Distributor at American Music and Sound....

They just came in today, we will ship them out on Thursday to their respected distributors including PSSL and AGI-PRO-DJ

*Crosses Fingers*

This is ummmmm, Interesting...

Watchwww.youtube.com

Nice video editing there but those 2 are good either way and they really make these decks look good!!

Yeah...

They do.

I'm still interested in them even though I have Tech 1200's, Dicers, Rane 64, Numark NS6, Pioneer DDJ SX and a DDJ SZ on the way once it's released.

I just LIKE the RP 8000's.

If anyone wants em NOW

www.ebay.com

I'm still seriously thinking of getting these tables.

They are growing on me but I think i'm gonna wait till I hear how they work with Serato DJ.

Shouuld work the same as a tech, its still just runnin timecode

I was referring to the mapping.

There is mapping available for ssl but Serato DJ is different.

man you just want to go out and buy something else ;)

but i'm not made at you........lol

Having the controls on the turntables seems like a great idea.

I could remap the 64 and control everything!

Having the controls on the turntables seems like a great idea.

I could remap the 64 and control everything!

They are midi turntables with cue, loop, sample triggers.

it is a great idea!

serato.com

you should have hired a lawyer and patent that idea

not patantable

Mine should be here by the 7th!!!!!!!!!!! *CROSSES FINGERS*!!!!!!

ALONG WITH MY NEW MACBOOK!!!!! YAY!!!!!!

ALONG WITH THE BLOW UP DOLL I ORDERED TO....... YAY!!!!!!!!!

You going to use the tables with SDJ or SSL?

I can get a pair for 740 each w/ free shipping so i'm really wanting to know how they work out with SDJ.

I'm also curious in their size. Will they fit a standard case?

Well they are based off the Super OEM design.... My Stanton 150s can fit in the same cases that I put my Technics in.

Spec wise they are slightly lighter then Technics 1200s..... and the Stantons are friggin just about twice as heavy as the Technics....

I plan on using it with SDJ.... I am tired of backtracking my firmware to run SSL on days my computer decides to act stupid with SDJ.... I am just going to tough it out till the next update.

I understand that, they were also designed FOR sdj judging by the number if cue points

I would agree but there is mapping for ssl and to date, I don't believe there is mapping for SDJ.

It might be a moot point because cues, loops and samples pretty much work the same across the two platforms with the exceptions of the extra cue points, loop roll, slicer and the like that sdj has.

well if you start using sync the sex doll can DJ for you!
nm

Or you can sex up the sex doll and have sync dj for you.

$60 off wats the deal?

n e 1 know if the usb "in" works only for the second deck or can you plug anything in there?

nm

If you know of a better price, PLEASE share.

I dont know of any. what the deal with that one^?

ProAudioStar

All my homies are hating on me that I'mma pick up a set of these the 7Ks or 8Ks, but they all know if I keep them they should all get them as well haha

It shipped!!!!! It fracking shipped!!!! Fracking Starbuck cylon number 6 it fracking shipping!!!


Just got a shipping notification from PSSL!!!!

About freaking time!!!!!!!!!!

From what it sounds like, they didn't go the official SDJ route so you'd have to map everything yourself. The problem is that you are currently unable to map loop roll to any midi in SDJ at the moment,

As long as I have my cues.... Im good

Ohhhh they have arrived in my city!!!! Just got a UPS notification update..... so excited I can't sleep.... I think I should go raid the UPS station before they put it on the trucks to deliver..... Thing says delivery by end of day...... but I want it now now now.

Post a Video and let us know what you really think vs the Technics. I have a new MK5 I'm thinking about selling to get a pair of reloops. Thanks

definitely!!!!

Battle star, haha.

The other functions should be coming with later updates of SDJ. I think it's actually a good thing they didn't do a hid mode. It's to have the option of doing your own settings instead of getting locked in.

Progress report...

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Have not done the faceplate yet. That will most likely be the last thing I do.
What you see above is the 1st coat to be followed by 2 more coats within 48 hours.

www.facebook.com

www.facebook.com

dope^
dope^^

They're like butter yo.... I like them just as, if not better than my Technic GrandMaster 1210M5G... www.inflexwetrust.com

BLASTA, can we get a flick with the plater off?

Blasta
Demo video please?

Will you use them with Serato DJ?

Yeah... I can do that... They are different than the 1200s under the platter, they are flat, It will make it really easy to clean then in the future, so seems dope in that regard... give me a couple min and Ill upload a pic.... I'm using them with Scratch Live at the moment, Not sure if they work with Serato DJ, I haven't tried them yet... I think they do or should work with it though

Damn...
Wrong thread

My bad.

This is the problem I'm having with them, No matter what I try… When programing my midi buttons, after I program them, save… then shut everything down… when I turn everything back on, It doesn't work like it should All the buttons don't light back up, like it's not saving... It's just with the lights though... So the button functionality works but a few of the buttons don't light up, as they should when they are programed.... I contacted support, so hopefully should fix soon, might be something I'm not doing right too?! No biggie.... They are dope and def if you get them you will like 'em I brought them out to all three of my gigs this week and plan on using them from now on full time! I can't believe it myself, I've been DJn for almost 17yrs and never used anything besides... NOTHING! Once you try'em you'll be able to tell the difference, for sure.... I figured keep my irreplaceable 1210M5G turns that cost $2500-$3000 to replace.. If you can even find them!! Verses these that I picked up for $680 a piece through my gear connect... It only makes sense right?

They are very solid... The midi buttons are perfect... They played well in the club... I spin at Club New York.... We get #turntup and the bass is huge... I had NO problems... I am very picky too... VERY! ;)

one question. will the 'USB in' take another controller, or is it strictly for daisy chaining?

Just opened mine.... and I was disappointed at the fact that mine must have been the only set that came without "Right Angled" power cables...... Will post pics and video here in a little bit..... but I am still bummed....... :-(

You dead azz too...

Keep it up.

OH SH*T!

ha ha, and I responded too....

My bad....

Mine did too... I'm just going to order some new online... probably $5 bucks a piece..
no biggie

I emailed the Reloop Distributor for the USA in California.... He is sending me some at no charge....


In the meantime.... lol I Melted mine to a right angle.... lmao.... Written up a review right now as we speak.

"n the meantime.... lol I Melted mine to a right angle.... lmao...."

snap! lol

nm

So now that you have the reloop turntables.... doesn't he 62 (or parts of it) seem obsolete?

nm

Y'all are some innovative mo-fo's when you wanna be...

@Mighty Dragon Sounds What's the Reloop distributors name and email?

I wanna hit him up too

Thanks

got flicks of the bent ac cable?
the burnt... I mean bent one too

Darren.DeSouza@AmericanMusicandSound.com

Darren de Souza
DJ Product Specialist
American Music & Sound
Allen & Heath Xone, Reloop, Serato Video
Phone: (800) 431-2609 EXT.2365
Fax: (800) 431-3129
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short review over here..... serato.com

Thanks for the info! #BAM

Wow, definitely not a game....

Since I doubt the other person will respond, I will ask you. Do you think that now that you have the reloop turntables, some of the 62 features are obsolete?

nm

No not really..... I am using a 62 and there are times when I would rather hit the cue buttons and use the controls on the mixer versus on the turntable.....

I did the same when I had dicers. Normal mixing and juggling I would stick to the buttons on my mixer.

When I start moving fast and drumming, I use the dicers. And I can see my self doing the same with the midi pads on the Reloops.

@6 I thought I did sorry... I mainly use the Reloop midi as of now for rolls and loops
I still mainly use the 62 for midi, but the tables give 8 extra buttons... I own the dicers too..
the pads and setup is overall better for sure.... #newschool #fresh

Cool. Thanks!

nm

interesting.

Im still waiting to hear if you can plug something else into that USB input, or is it for daisy chaining only?

Haven't tried but believe it's just for Reloop turntable link though I'll plug my dicers in and see if they work

Its for daisy chaining... Tried plugging in my external and it turned on but wouldn't read.... I even tried plugging up my phone and it wouldn't charge.

thanks - that would have been good....

The School of Remix in Vancouver BC is the exclusive Western Canadian Retailer for Reloop products.
We have the rp8000s available for Demo today.
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Cut'n it up on the #reloop #rp8000

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Do another one using the reloops buttons. I wanna see how good they work.

I don't do it justice..... My cuts aren't half as good as Blasta's..... But here is some of my juggling using the cues on the Reloops....

You'll notice that the lights aren't lit because of running in SDJ 1.6

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Thanks man, I need to start using the buttons more, for sure... I wanna try to put together a nice 5 min routine... have to get it done some day, soon too... I freestyle too much, the buttons work well, they feel just like the dicers... I wish the 62 had the same material for the buttons... rubber is better, doesn't break over time, had to replace all the buttons in the 62 once already... it was warrantied luckily!

Thats better then me... I recently managed to break a Rane Fader Stem.... don't ask how.... I just did.... lmao....... My hands are too heavy....

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Nice video... Bam... I know you're luv'n them tables.....!! #toosick

Good job Dragon.
Thank you.

Blasta...
Thanks for the button material update!

The reloops midi buttons also have a nice rebound bounce to them. Better then the Dicers IMO......

Also..... Again some people have worried about vibration and it being slow close to the platter that it may cause vibration and feed back.... i think that its position slightly below the platter negates this more then how the dicers were positioned.

I noticed that with hard pounding.... I could get my needle to bounce when using Dicers..... with these Reloops I haven't had any issues like that.

I brought them to my gig last weekend... we pound the bass too.... I had no issues at all.!

Cool. Look forward to testing these babies out...... Making sure EVERYONE stays the hell away from my decks this weekend..... Its too early to test out of these Super OEM turntables can take beer spills like my Technics used to.

I like the overall concept of these tables, but the main issue I can see that may develop is that if you have an issue with the buttons you have to send the whole unit in for service instead of borrowing or replacing a set of dicers....I had to get the cues replaced on my 62 and was out of a mixer for a 1 1/2 weeks. While Ranes service turn around is top notch, it's still an incovience. I'm not sure you'd get that same service through Reloop, especially since I believe they are not stateside.
None the less, it's great to see a company supporting turntables and giving a lot of DJ's what they want.

Nicholy

I will have to do some research because I'm not sure how field replaceable the button module is.

Also, I'm inquiring about the Serato DJ mapping.

We would need the midi panel back to be able to do it manually like SSL, etc...

^^ Thats a good point.
I would hope its a easily replaceable module.

I was able to map it to SDJ 1.6.....

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Ok I was just talking to someone about this. Good to hear!

Does everything work?

quartz, you looking to get a set?
let me know if you come across anything, Im over in saskatoon

I'm working on becoming a Reloop dealer right now actually.

really?
Im expecting a discount. ahah
we used to exchange words over msn years ago
internet what a place

I just ordered a pair.

"Hi. My name is City and I'm a a dj gear addict"

ordered mines too

I got the ortofon qbert concords to go with them.

Pissed that it will take about a month to get the tables though. But at $740 each, I can wait.

First live gig with them..... Just finished setting up and I gotta get used to replugging everything.... Used to all my RCAs and Power Cables being fixed on my Technics.... Think I might just leave them on for speedy set up. Saves a minute or two

Have a safe weekend DJs!!!!

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looking good Dragon!

Thanks!

Field Testing Reports as follows:

Each Reloop RP 8000 was transported in its own individual Flight Case. The Flight Cases were the Odysessy Black Label Flight Cases that used to house my Technics 1210 M5Gs.....

1) The Reloops may actually be a few millimeters larger then the Technics 1210/1200.... I am summarizing this from the extra snug fit that the Reloops gave when putting them into the flight cases. Now this can simply be that the Cases were just formed to the shape and foot print of the Technics. It was a good feeling snuggly fit whereas my Technics kinda just plop in there.

2) Leave everything plugged in. Even though RCA, USB, and Power Cables are removable, it really increased set up time fumbling around with the wires. Miss the permanently attached RCA and Power Cable of my Technics. Remember to make your (Left) or Channel 1 Turntable as the master USB hub and daisy it to you (Right) or Channel 2 Turntable as this is what the Reloops Powerup to by default. You can customize it but its an extra unnecessary step if your just using 2 turntables.

3) The extra torque is incredibly accurate and gives you that extra room of forgiveness it seems when you let go of the record and accidentally hold too much friction.

4) I had the club booth monitor turned up pretty much all the way and aimed directly at my turntables to see if the light weight material would cause vibration and loss of tracking..... Nothing happened out of the ordinary. It took quite a bit of directed bass in order for it to start showing interference.

5) I swapped out different Cartridges throughout the night. Shure 44-7s, Ortofon S120 and Ortofon Q-berts..... They all performed well with the unit.

The Ugly:

The RCAs that came with the units seemed to fit pretty loosely with my Rane 62. A quick swap with the RCAs that came with my Stanton 150s seemed to have done the trick. If your RCAs are loose, the good thing about disconnect-able RCAs is that you can always swap out.

SDJ 1.6 doesn't natively support the midi functions of the Reloops so the midi buttons won't light up making it pretty difficult to see which cue button you are hitting in the dark. They are STILL mappable however. Im sure its only a matter of time before an update is put out to fix this.....

Overall the units performed flawlessly IMO during my 4 hour gig. I remained superbly sober the entire night to ensure that I didn't miss a thing.... and sure enough I didn't miss the real ugly.... but it didn't come from the Reloops.... It came from SDJ 1.6

In my Soberness I noticed..... Holy hell SDJ 1.6 audio for some reason sounds like crap.... And it really hit me when I was listening through my booth monitor..... WTF is this what my customers been hearing all this time????

Also.... Why am I have stupid USB dropouts.... I have the most powerfully configured MacBook Pro 13inch Retina that you can get from the Apple Store right now and I experienced Drop Outs with even a lose in latency randomly..... Comon.... 16gb of Ram, 1tb SSD and the new Haswell Processor??? Comon......

Anyway.... I am too extremely sober right now...... Must....... Find....... me..... a...... Blue Moon.....

I don't like how Serato DJ is power hungry like that. I saw the tutorial where they suggest to tidy up your library but SSL handles your library the way it is. It bugs me to read stuff like that.

Thanks for putting in work letting everyone know about your experience. Glad to see contributions like that.

Thanks

nm

Pics of my RP8000s
Got it from www.agiprodj.com

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I also need to buy a right angle power cord and USB cord both A & B plug, hope the sell those...

How much did the hit you up for them?

I heard they don't really do discounts.

Good follow up Dragon and your right about SDJ being power hungry i had to buy a new iMac for my club gig as i was getting those drop outs on my 3.06 core 2 duo iMac but with my 2.90 ghz quad core that things a beast heck i'm even tempted to record a Video set for those lazy nights now...

DDJSP1 wats the big deal about it??? before i make dat purchase.

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My man!

Estimated delivery :
Thur 3/13/2014

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from where? How much?

Crazy! I run a 2012 Retina and I have no problems at all with sdj tho I don't use it over ssl unless I need to run a controller, anyways I'm staying with ssl and till Rane puts out a another two ch mixer I like or Pioneer puts out a better SRT model… Hella I may even just get a Reloop mixer if I go the all white RP7k way.

$743 agiprodj shipped US
"good guy discount"

Wow. I paid 740 each but I'm not expecting them in a week and a half.

Good look.

i am also thinking about buying a some turntables I am torn between the technics and this!

At this point. Technics offer that historic and nostalgic value. They are the AK-47s of the DJ world..... They've been around since the beginning, withstood the test of time and will work even after you've thrown everything at it.

But if your looking for a more advanced option to have for more practical modern day usage while still keeping the roots of tradition: Reloops RP8000s is my happy median.

Kalashnakov 1200s

Nice ring to it! lol

Come on Reloop we need the Serato DJ Midi patch :)

Mighty Dragon Sounds
How do you have your height and weight adjustment for your Shure needles?

Mine bottoms out, The cartridge hits the vinyl even when I have the height all the way up and the weight back.

I think i need to remove the headshell weight...

Yes, take that weight off. 3 to 3.5 grams.

For my Tone Arm I always put it at the lowest level flush with the turntable.

The Shures I don't run any headshell weights. Its set for 3 grams of counter weight.

For my Ortofons I have 2gram of headshell weight plus 4 grams of tonearm weight.

For my Qberts I have it set between 3.5 and 4 grams

The 44-7's start to max out at 3.5-4 and will bottom out on wobbly platters or warped records, no matter what turntable you are using. The Ortofons on the other hand can take more weight because of the shorter stylus length, but does not handle horizontal movement as well as the shures.

The cartridge I have found that is in the middle of the two (and sounds better than Ortofons on regular records) are the White Taruya Needles made by Abe for Disc Jams in Japan. They are almost right in the middle of the 44-7's and Ort Q-Berts. I can run them at 3.5g for most gigs, but also run them up to 4.5g for a bouncy floor. They also keep their audio balance well under a lot of weight.

Hoping to get a pair of the RP8000's soon. Hoping they do a good job of getting them into the clubs and they becoming a little more of a standard.

Maybe the Serato guys can be extra nice and make a small patch for SDJ and add native midi support for the buttons and lights on the buttons. Doesnt look like we will be getting the midi panel back right away but maybeeee they can give reloop owners a nice little gift.

+1

I have manually mapped what I can. I would like to map the Library scroll and load, and trigger all 5 samples on both tables. I can only map one side only unless I am not doing it right?

Has anyone tried manually editing the midi file.

Mighty sent me his and I briefly looked over the code. I want to do a comparison between the midi file for SSL that is available from the Reloop site vs the midi file Mighty sent me.

Hi Guys,

The RP-8000s are available in limited numbers in the States. They are available here www.jkproaudio.com

Www.agiprodj.com also has limited stock. So get em!!

So... I wonder what Akiem will say about the RP8000s...
He is probably putting them to the test right now :)

I will shoot some flicks maybe video tomorrow..... Anything anyone want to see?

Nothing, Just wanted your opinion on them.
I like them. Two things that is irking me is not being able to map the library scroll/load, and I need to buy a right angle power cable so the right side table can sit flush against the mixer.

My right angled power cables came in the other day so I am happy... :-)

Can you tell me if there is a brand and model # on that cable?

Thanks

i ordered them from here

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use that one ^^^^

sorry i didn't provide the link earlier

wait, this comes with a power cable that prevents it from being flush against the mixer?

a turntable that was designed to be battle style?

Yes.

the Stanton 150s at my radio station are like that but I figured our engineer just used standard power cables during installation

c'mon Hanpin. This is cheap fix

The ones shipped to the USA were supplied with STRAIGHT power cords.... The ones in Europe and the first few review sets shipped to the USA seemed to have been shipped with RIGHT ANGLED power cables....

But me being me I wrote Reloop USA and they are sending me some

I melted and angled myself my power cables....

And I ordered some more heavier duty ones from the site above..

Heres a pic of my home remedy against the straight cables.

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For everyone that made a big deal about the RP 8000s speeding up when playing through phono and using the Motor Off power down....

Tell me if you notice a real difference that the crowd can tell when using Time Code CV....

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Heres another one with a more bump bump beat...

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Damn.
I was told the date got pushed back to early April for my 8000's

Is kinda funny typing that.
8000's seems as easy and familiar as saying 1200's.

lmao.... I love my 8000s.... but 1200s just rolls so much better.... Maybe I'll start saying it and see how it sticks..... I rolled up to a gig last night and someone mistaken them for custom 1200s.

Lol.

Isnt it called 12s
Can we call it 8s?

Just placed an order
I bought extras and I could use one for the ddjsx

All my Stanton decks came with 90 degree power cables and rca's.

That's weird.

@ Mighty,

How is the insulation on the 8000's when playing regular vinyl and you tap on the body?

Good. I can do a quick instagram video in a littlebit

My 8000's just got to my door.

I was told they would not arrive till next month.

BUT THEY HERE NOW!

Note I'm just waiting on the SZ.

Cool

Congrats and enjoy!

Check it out

Agiprodj's RP8000s and Rane 62 with 12inchskinz

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This a video of a problem that I have been having with SDJ 1.6 but hey it showcases my reloops.... lol

I just saw your vid and tried for myself. I cannot reproduce your issue...

I have a 2009 Macbook Pro 17 2.8ghz core 2 duo 8gb ram
Tried it with Rane 64 Rane 62 with and without hooking up Reloop Midi and DDJSP1
You have a very odd issue. Hope it can be fixed

I hope so to dude.... I literally almost threw my friggin carts on the dance floor! I got so frustrated.... Uninstalled, re-installed, drivers and software and all...

You running pitch n time?

Check out that video of me tapping the turntable with time code vs the distortion on the software...

I'll do one with vinyl tomorrow.... Tired as heck today, sorry.

Damn.
I have to send one turntable back.

It's bent right next to the midi triggers. It's not bent badly but it is bent.

damn - thats pretty nasty

Nope

Dragon/X Trodinarire, do you guys run macs with dedicated graphics cards?
Ie not running intel graphics?

nah.... those are on 15 inch models

For mine... its a Intel Iris 1024 MB

Your MAC is too fast...

You should get a PC....:-)

lmao.... I did have a PC...... It was once used to play World of Warcraft..... Counter-Strike........ Star Wars Old Republic...... and Watch Jada Fire........

Now it just sits and collects dust.

Anyone have the SSL Compatible Firmware available???? It doesn't download as a zip file for me when I try it....

Dragon

How do you go from files to creates with the reloop?

I see how to scroll but not how to go back and forth from crates to files.

Also, how do you do instant doubles?

lmao.... I did have a PC...... It was once used to play World of Warcraft..... Counter-Strike........ Star Wars Old Republic...... and Watch Jada Fire........

Now it just sits and collects dust.

Jada fire overrated
Jada Stevens is the best jada in adult filmography

The midi drop outs I.E. flashing midi was the reason i got rid of my old mac and bought a new one i think the problem is something else maybe the software.

Just reverted back the Firmware and going back to SSL 2.5 until the next SDJ update... I had enough of the drop outs and audio problems.......

Will do a full video review and post to you tube later on today.

I am not sure you do it with SSL because I've been mostly using it with SDJ 1.6 but I will see later on today since I reverted back to SSL Firmware.

To instant double enable instant double in the software and double tap the load track button (On 62)

I will be using SDJ as I have a Range 64.

You can't instant double from the turntable?

Can you go from files to creates to files using the turntable?

Rane 64
(Damn auto spell)

I imagine you can.... I was able to midi assign every button on the Reloops.... Try Midi assigning the Scroll Knob Button Push as the load button. When you double tap it it should load.....

I wouldn't know how to assign the scrolling in SDJ....... Another reason why I stopped doing it. I'm just going to wait till the update comes out.

Down + turn = tab.

Works very well.

[quoteDown + turn = tab.

Works very well.

How did you find that out?
It's not in the Reloop manual.

In fact, their manual is kinda weird.

How did you find that out?
It's not in the Reloop manual.

In fact, their manual is kinda weird.

It wouldnt be in the manual becuase its a midi map they made for SSL. Download it from Reloop.

I'm working on my own, but having problems getting the lights to light up proper.

Those that have used both ST-150's and the new Reloop RP-8000's - can you tell how they compare in terms of build quality and feel?

I'm thinking I'd maybe like to make the switch from my Stanton's as I find them a bit unpractical because of the weight and I also have a small apartment and some space issues, so I could even go with just one Reloop turntable at the start for cutting and playing with instant doubles/midi and then maybe get the second turntable later on.

I have used both and this I must say.....


EVERYTHING about the Reloop RP 8000 is superior..... The Stanton 150 although powerful, it was sooooo friggin heavy for no reason.

Reloops weigh a little less then Traditional Technics 1200s.... Almost like in-between a CDJ 1000 and Technics 1200....

The damaged Turntable is on it's way back to Brooklyn. Hopefully I will have the replacement by end of the week.

Any Pics of the dent?

Nope.

It was minor but still.

For $740 I want it to be the way it's supposed to be.

gc pro's started getting there sz todays so soon djcity. cant wait. the reloops with the sz. that will be a aweosme set up

heres some photos including inside
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wow. aweosme.

Great pictures AKIEM

nm

Like 6 said: "Great Pictures Akiem!"

I might have to do the melt and reshape of the power cord because shipping from the site you posted is BANANAS!!!

I found one I could bend back and tie - should be getting a replacement - kinda sucks

Really cool. Seeing under the platter bugged me out...guess I'm used to the way the platter is recessed on the Technics.

So a couple things might fall slightly short of the 1200 I can see
(have no idea about the electronics)

- the underside is plastic and could crack eventually compared to the rubber on the 1200

- the 33 45 reverse buttons are rubber and might wear funny over time. start.stop is real close to 1200 just a little smaller. I guess the second one is useful but I would have preferred more midi controlles

- the housing around the LED pitch light is plastic, should have been aluminum

- screen printing on the midi buttons might wear poor over time. I would have preferred something hard plastic closer to laptop keys for more precision. not horrible tho. They are mounted into some sort of rubberized piece for dampening. taping on them is fine, no tracking issue

- I dont like the name of the function on each button since I am changing all those functions - eh

- its always going to need the angled ac cord, you can see straight one sticks right out

- top metal piece I guess is glued to the plastic. It would have been cool if it could be easily removed for custom painting

- It does speed up on shut down, but its not ridiculous. could throw some people off. You can adjust the stop buttons to work like a power wind down but then they start slow too. I would have liked separate controls over stop and start. But I actually just count it as a 'different feel' compared to 1200.

- inside 'looks' more fragile (maybe it is, maybe not)




Cool Stuff

- the build quality really does seem good. In some slight ways maybe better that the og, some ways not. those are actually locking screws (not sure what they are called) Ive seen decks with fake ones. Mater of fact there is nothing "fake" on the deck (maybe plastic)

- all buttons and dials are midi but cant be unassigned the original function - not sure exactly how I might use them but I might

- the added torque is kinda nice.

- there are some real quality elements for example the brass on the spindle is SUPER FLUSH with the plater (I dont know how they did that)

- underside of the platter is rubber. my guess is for stability

- I actually like these feet better, might not look as cool but they can be angled much more for sitting on an uneven surface. the rubber keeps them from sliding like the 1200s

- you can actually plug another device in usb in (dont quote me on that yet, I think it was working (Im sitting on jury duty typing this out))

- whatever it is about taking the plater of and it being flat like a table just intrigues me for some reason

- it can be set to be the controller for 4 different decks, meaning it has four midi layers (wish you could switch between them faster)

- firmware is upgradable (maybe the wind down can be adjusted)

Overall I think its will last the 10 to 12 years I expect it too.

This

nm

@ AKIEM,

Read all your pros and cos. Good work!

nm

Are the MIDI buttons easily replaceable?

i just tried this with my ddjsp1 and it lights up but the mapping for SDJ is not there. You can manually map and it works. So yes you can daisy chain another device.

Wonder how I could make the DDJSP1 work with SDJ without manually remapping it?

USB daisy chain connection: DDJSP1->RP8000->RP8000->Laptop

I just right angled my power cable.

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Not as easy as they should be. I don't think they were designed to be, but it does not look difficult either.

In the flics the two thicker red wires are pasted down over the back side of the buttons. There is one pcb which would have to be removed as well. If it were easier, I would have went ahead and opened it up to look at the buttons.




Thanks. Shot those flicks with the rebel t3i btw.

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Akiem was on the fence about these. Thanks for your review going to go with mint set of M5Gs.

Dude, those pictures are Stellar.

I'm mad that they made the Green and Blue a common connection....

I think that may come back to bite them in the azz, or at least make it hard to isolate grounding issues IF they come up...

yup - The ONLY reason for me was the midi buttons (been waiting for something like these for some years) but if you dont need midi or prefere dicers (which I dont like) 1200s is still king.

Its a Hanpin Super OEM, not a 1200 killer.

On the other hand I never really thought I would buy anything but a used 1200. I bought mine 25 years ago new and expect them to last my whole career with or without this Reloop.

The thing I wont like is a new better version in the future (did only buy one tho)

Thanks again.

I am not hating on the 8's but it looks like to me that a lot can go wrong with them.

- Do they have ground wires? (if not or they are grounded in the inside, that might be mighty's tracking problem)

- To many dam cords (I thought digital means less hook up)

-For 740 a piece, I shouldn't have to buy extra cords.

-if the pad button breaks how do you get them replaced

- How good is the build ( will it last pass 2 years or last like the 12's)

- Whats the purpose of a usb if you can't plug nothing into it except another 8

These are just some questions I have about the re loops.
I will stay with the original and you all can have the remix

I was wondering about this too....

Aren't the buttons different sizes?

So if say, the 3rd button went bad, for some strange reason, you'd have to stipulate that the actual "3rd" button from the left ( or whatever went bad) if they send replacement parts, OR maybe they'll say you need to send in the entire unit....

Both options suck...

yes there is alot more going on compared to the 1200.



pretty sure the tracking issue has nothing to do with the R8. Im not having any issue like that.

if you mean the third ground wire on the ac cord, no they dont.



the only thing extra is the USB


and I just checked - if you plug a device into the 'in' it does relay the midi. But the notes show up as if they were coming from the R8, possibly some conflicts.




Im getting mine shipped free (fuck that)



my guess is its one large piece of rubber - you would replace the whole thing. It really doesnt look like a difficult job




My guess is 10 to 12 years. I never expected that much out of my 1200s either tho.

And nothing is ever going to be built like the Technics 1200s. Its just not going to happen - Super OEM is the new 1200 (imo)



well thats what its for, you can plug in 4 decks on 1 usb

Where?
How?

I don't like the tone arm wires showing like that. . . !

the first flick I have it partly disassembled. otherwise its pretty much the same on the 1200.

Curious if this is the final build, or if sales are ok they might tweak a few things

Finding 1200s here is difficult, and usually end up paying 800 Cnd a piece.
So dropping that much for a brand new product isn't a huge deal

@Akiem

Do you use ssl or sdj?

I saw that you got the lights going on the reloops. Just wondering if it works with sdj.

Just a final follow up video again featuring my Reloop RP 8000s but mainly focuses on problems with SDJ 1.6

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Disable Pitch n' Time or Setting USB Buffering to 15ms or higher in the Rane Device menu.

Nice photos!

now that i have my sz want to get a pair of 8000 to hook up. cant wait. great videos guys.

SSL only.

What happens if you guys put the midi file from Reloop in the SDJ midi folder?

I started testing with my Mikro last night and it picked it up without me doing anything.

I changed the assignment because I want to do some different things but all my original mappings worked.

Keep in mind I didn't get too crazy with the functions in SSL.

However, there are definitely things we need the panel for.

sticker sync

they don't know....

^ Ha ha

I tried the reloop SL file and it did not worked for me.

Me either.... I even took off my custom midi maps because for some reason it was confusing my Rane 62...... I would assign Cue 1 to Cue 1 on the Reloops.... and for some reason my Echo Effects On Button would turn into Cue 1 as well..... I was like WTF???? WTF???? Only on SDJ 1.6

Got my angled power chord.
Soo much better :)

Thanks to Mighty Dragon Sounds for the link

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With some new Blue Pastel!!!!

Wat a nice combination of colors bro. Flava.

I still can't get these damn ortofon q berts to play nice.

It's getting frustrating!

I got these carts just for these tables and I'm getting pissed that they are skipping all over the place.

Baby scratches are gravy. More complex or faster scratches....
Frustrating!

I got the Qberts as an intermediate between my S120s and my Shure 447s....

It does take a while to break them in but once they are they cut like a razor.....

But they can't take the weight that the S120s can handle so in noisy high vibration club environments I still use my S120s

For some reason I thought these had the AEC style power cable not the 2-prong AC cables?

"PANK" OM Scratch Ortofons FTW.

*fixed

I thought so too, as this is how the Stanton ST150 are made....

My other 8000 had arrived!

Woot Woot!!! JUST IN TIME FOR THE MUTHA EFFIN WEEKEND!!!!

No bullshit!

I'm taking my starship out this weekend.

8000's with my Rane 64.

LMAO @ Starship...

All the damn lights, that's what it looks like.

I don't even want to know...

nm

Y'all still do tha misquote stuff? Cute.

working with the table more.

If the Torque is set to all the way to 'classic' (weakest) the start.stop and the power off wind down is the same as the 1200.

It only speeds up on 'power off' if the Torque is set higher.

so you can get it to behave pretty much like a 1200.

Kinda hard to get used to low torque after a while.... lol

maybe - but if you never turn it on in the first place and you want that og 1200 behavior....

Serato 1.6.1


Reloops are now natively Mapped....

What! im slacking! brb

confirmed!

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These RP8000s are now definitely worth it :)

Thanks Serato!
I don't care what everyone says about you, but you are alright with me! :P

I finally hooked up the 8000's to the 64 and….

The Battlestar Galactica Is lit up and ready!!!

Still some slight problems though. If you know about them PLEASE help a broth out

1. How do you move from files back to crates?

2. How do you Instant Double?

With my 64, the scroll files knob now scrolls transitions in Serato Video.

Easy Starbuck.......... By hitting the load button twice..... you should be able to instant double.......


Oh Gosh I am drunk...........

Lls…

I tried but it did not work.

I need to know how to do these things and I need to know what's up with the 64 scroll knob.

you can always re-asign any button for instant doubles.

down+twist=tab(switch from song to crate and back)


do wish there was a couple extra knobs..... but

I tried that but it did not work.
I will try again though.

twist forward and back should be same as tab

You got instant doubling drunk on some Reloop RP 8000s...

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Did you midi map that?
I ask cause is just not working for me.
Wonder if it's because I'm on a 64 instead of a 62.

That's how it was mapped for SSL.

True Geeks on here....

Respect.

Shit!
I didn't download the ssl map.

I will do that today and see if it works.

Also lable midi file old and re- open. usually fixes midi issues after a update. you will have to re copy custom ones back in but for serato dj it fixed my denon 1000

Per chance any of you guys are in New England Ill be bringing the demonstration pair of 8000s to Table Manners Sunday March 30th (Daytime) for people to try out and give some feedback on the decks.

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You do not need the files.

Delete it if you have it

My latest setup with the RP8000s :)

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you X are a gear whore! lol

Aint no shame in my game! :P

Besides... ALL of this is for my son Evan Almighty ;)

thats the excuse u use for wifey lolz.

Well.. she doesnt know yet!! Cuz it looks like the SX :p

I'm thinking of using that ploy for updating my macbook ;)

The wife's anger goes from 100% to 50% So it somewhat works! LoL

50% to 10% flowers help also!!! :p

How do you like the 64? I'm thinking of getting one and using my 4 M5G's with it. nm

All I have to do is get rid of the boxes. She will look straight at the new gear......... Notices nothing.

Yea i bought a new iMac and hid the box she knew nothing lol we're so clever...

i hope ur girls dnt hav a serato account lolz.

why 64, if 68 does the same, and it has SSL

To tell you the truth, I have never used 4 tables in a live setting currently. Only back in the day when doing "Battle of the Bands" dj competition. I use it mostly just playing around at home. Even with the controllers, I mainly use just 2 :) But you cant go wrong with Rane quality! 64 definitely has more features that the 68 and it is SeratoDJ mapped.

i want to see someone really mixing with 4 turntables without sync... bcuz it's possible on a controller...too much to go wrong on tables with them flutters and wowz.lol

umm.. yes sync will "help" align songs IF the beat grid and song beat pattern are in a 4/4 no wow or flutters.

Sync is not perfect.
And just because Sync is available doesn't mean that you need to use it.
and if you do not use Sync on a controller, you still have to finesse your mix using 4 decks just like a turntable.
Try that with 70s 80s music :)

Sorry... Just tired of Sync bashing. BPM readers was the sync back then
I'm an old school DJ who appreciate and accepts new technology :)

Not bashin I personally don't care if you rocking it right sync is a tool... And I used to count records manually with a clicker counter so I know about the old school...

The basics RP8000s with the DJM909
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No Laptop No Serato No SL Box.

Selling your 909??? :-)

Sure 1 million dollars and your first born. LoL

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Funny I tried selling my 909 multiple times and did not get a single buyer on ebay and I was only asking for 700.00 which is well worth. At this point its never getting sold unless pioneer release another bad ass 2 channel mixer with midi and serato built in. But will never happen

I say anything is possible now because SDJ is open to way more vendors.

As long as they involve Serato and the hardware meets the criteria an guidelines, never say never.

I never liked the 909.

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Great point.

New gen's very cheap and also if there's no midi buttons then they don't get it. We're talking about a generation that does not understand paying for music. Why would they wanna buy a mixer for 7 hundo? Same reason I never sold mine. I'm generally speaking though. I'm not saying all new jacks are cheap of course. Just most of 'em, unless mommy and daddy are paying for it. Then it's Pio nexus everything.

$700 seems a little steep for a 909 these days - consider you could get a used 57 for around that amount now.

Very true. I think $500-600 is a good price for it.

Although they're two completely different mixers though. The thing they have in common is that they're both great 2 channel scratch mixers. Other than that, we're talking about a tank with hardware effects vs a great DVS mixer with tons of ins/outs.

Man, I remember feeling like the man as if I owned two holy grails when I had a 909 and a 57. Now it's whatever lol

I actually like it better than the 57 and 62 however I do like the built in SSL box.

Man my 909 is still a beast and sounds great. That mixer to me is a classic and it will never leave my hands for anything less than that.

I seen a SL2 put inside of a DJM-909, just putting it out there.

In fact, here it is. The guy does the work himself I think. I never understood why he pasts it off as someone's else work tho.

A link may help. . .

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We all have, it's old news. Even Jazzy Jeff had his custom 909 SL box, might've been an SL1 though.

I will say, I do like the blue LED mod though.

so, part of AgiProDJs Reloop tour we are shooting an entire episode of video dedicated to the reloop

anything you want me to test, or report back on let me know Ill try to get in in the episode.

we brought them out to #tablemanners yesterday in boston and let some life-long turntablists get down on them yesterday.
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we also have a 15% promo code on the 8000s.... Im not allowed to post it.
but its in the beginning of the new episode....and on my instagram.
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Being that I was probably one of the biggest fans of this product.....


I am hurt I was not requested to be a part of this....

*Sips some Hennesy*

Please test Serato DJ with them. Test toggle from crate to files back to crate.

Mine just won't do it.

IE, the Tab focus?

I might have missed something in the default mappings on the new firmware?
*spinning the knob scrolls whichever panel your in,
*double clicking the panel loads instant double to the deck

which function switches the knob to Tab Focus mode?

Here's something I figured out, which we'll be talking about.

in Serato DJ you cannot Midi Map Loop Roll
on the Reloop it comes with, default mapping "cue-sample-loop-user"
but because you cannot map loop-rolls IN SERATO DJ you can not map them to the user page on the reloop8000

this is more a serato dj issue than reloop issue obviously... or anyone using a nono-native mappable device wit SDJ

Tab = push + turn

works fine with me

When midi doesnt work the way I think it should there are a couple programs I open to see whats happening. OSCulator is one.

Ill give that a shot tonight

AKIEM are you using SL or SDJ?

It does not work for SDJ

SSL, yeah maybe thats the issue.

dealbreakers for this are the fact that the buttons dont change colors like the dicers and that there are 8 buttons! 2 separate rows of 4 would make much more sense musically and be less clunky

well as far as two sets of four buttons, it really is very easy to find each button by touch. For example to find #5 just put four fingers on the last eight buttons which is super easy and natural feeling, then your index is #5. Finding the buttons blind is very easy.

I thought about adding something to divide them and be able to found them by touch but its not really needed

Hey guys

The RP-8000 is working as "Open Beta" with 1.6.1 and will be fully supported with a coming release.

Things we have collected so far, that will improve with official support:

- push and scroll should go back to crates, same as Scratch Live mapping provided by Reloop
- double tap the TRAX encoder should do instant doubles.
- we want to be sure the link mode works properly
- ... (we might come up with some other things ;) )

So feel free to use Your RP8000's with 1.6.1 but keep in mind it is not officially supported yet and we don't recommend using them in a Iive situation yet.
I'll keep tracking this discussion so if you find the time to play around with the RP8000's in Serato DJ 1.6.1, any feedback is appreciated.

Cheers
Karl