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Arranging songs in a crate

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Scratch Live
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Ortofon | Serato S-120
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Amyth 8:10 PM - 17 September, 2008
Hi guys. I'm absolutely new to Serato. Wanted to know a few things.

1)Is it possible to loop in the absolute mode?
2) Can one arrange songs in a crate?

What i mean by arranging songs is.. For instance.. If you have four songs in a crate, is it possible to put the fourth song after the first one and the second song after the third one??

I hope you guys got it.

If yes.. Then, how can one do it?

Thanx.
Konix 8:17 PM - 17 September, 2008
1) No, you can only loop in Relative mode or the hybrid Rel/Abs mode, or Internal mode.

2) Yes, click the # column header on the far left in the crate to order the tracks by number, then you can click and drag songs up/down in the list and order them to your liking.
Rane, Support
Chad S. 8:33 PM - 17 September, 2008
welcome to Scratchlive, I hope you are having fun. You'll find that this forum has alot of awesome users with good info, so take konix's advice and you should be sorted.
Amyth 7:17 PM - 18 September, 2008
Thank you Konix and Chad... I just wish i could loop in the ABS mode.
Rane, Support
Chad S. 7:24 PM - 18 September, 2008
is it because you are using vinyl and like to "needle drop"? Is that why you want the loops in ABS mode?
Amyth 8:40 PM - 18 September, 2008
I use cds... and when you have some things as powerful as serato scratch... you would want to take your creativity to the next level. I know many djs who play on cdjs and use the loop function quite often. Today.. When such a function is available on the professional cd players.. Then why shouldn't it be on serato scratch?
Konix 9:04 PM - 18 September, 2008
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Then why shouldn't it be on serato scratch?


But it is in ScratchLIVE, but you have to use Relative mode to use it. You have to learn and understand the differences between Absolute and Relative mode though first.

Absolute mode is like using a normal vinyl or CD. Absolute mode follow a direct one to one relationship with the time on the CD and the time of the song in SSL. Absolute mode tracks the absolute time position on the control signal. 1:00 minute on the control signal (CD) will always correspond to 1:00 in the song in SSL. It's simple physics. And conventional physics says you can't be in two places at one time. This is why you cannot loop in SSL in Absolute mode. Though you can use the looping on the CDJs in Absolute mode, though it doesn't work well due to the nature of timecode programs and the inhert latency involved.

Relative mode, on the other hand, does not track absolute time position, only the relative forward/backward movement of the control signal. This means that you can be in two places at one time (e.g. 1:30 on the control CD, but 1:15 on the song). This is why you can loop in SSL, but not with the CDJ's loop buttons, cause Realtive mode does not take time position into account.

Relative mode is the key to SSL's functionality and opens up a lot of doors that simply aren't possible in Absolute mode. Most features only work in Relative mode (cue points, loops, etc.). Relative mode is the more advanced mode and takes a little bit to get used to, but once you understand how and why it works and master it, you won't go back to Absolute mode. Absolute is limiting, but it's what most new users start off with as it's what they are most familiar with from using normal CDs or vinyl. But you have to get over that mindset.
Amyth 9:32 PM - 19 September, 2008
Thank you once again konix.. Will try the relative mode and let you know.