+1

just upgraded to a 62 after 4-5 years on 57 & the headphone & echo are the only bad points on the 62 vs 57

the headphone might be "loud enough" as far as rane/serato are concerned but it is to low for me (maybe that means i am deaf but pioneer & rane 57 and other mixers are fine) plus the 62's echo is definitely not sounding quite as nice as the 57 so far...

one thing i noticed last weekend on the 62 is that there seems to be so little bottom end in the headphone output that cutting the bass out of a track does not really affect how it sounds in the headphones..... thoughts anyone?

> a control panel to customize led's color and brightness on 62. ;-)

+1

+1

Love my 62. Only issue I've ever seemed to have is the headphone volume level. Its just way too low for me. I've read others have had this issue so, it does seem like something that needs to be addressed. Other than that, my 62 is the best investment I've made in my dj gear.

+100000

So true I turn my bass up to 1:00 when I do use my headphones: pioneer hdj 2000 on the 6 Duce...

@ EASY @Isdjmist

noticed last night that if you turn on the split cue & pan it all the way to the left (cue) the volume on the cue side of the headphone sounds much louder & you can hear the bottom end properly - still not as loud as on 57 overall but you are only able to hear the track you are cueing properly in at least one ear - but a possible work around if you cant work with the low volume & only use 1 ear to cue.....

BTW I am using senheiiser HD25s & have never had a problem with volume on any other mixer - can anyone from rane / serato comment on this please?

......i think when you turn on splitcue on & pan it to the left/cue it basically is sending all the sound to the cue side of headphones & is effectively "doubling" or giving a 3db boost in one ear. if there is anyone reading this thread who is familiar with split cue on other mixers please chime in & let us know if split cue on other mixers boosts the volume in headphones on the cue side like this ?

+62

Where are you at with you headphone levels?

Ive mentioned this theory before,

on the 57 our Gain would be from 12-1
and the headphones would be plenty loud with out pushing them past 40/50%

I used my 57 a few weeks back, and from habbit i was playing with my gains at first at 10/11 OClock (like we do on the 62)
and I had the same experience with the headphones on the 57

which stands to reason, the gain also influences the headphone signal.
IE, turn your gain down, the headphones go down.

Take your 62 and put the gain at 1 OClock
you'll notice the headphones romp.

problem is, none of us play with the gains at 1.
so their needs to be an offset for the differential... now on the 62 I usually am around
the 11 on the headphone gain...I am a monitor guy though, I imagine using split cue, or being sealed in the headphones I would not need it that loud.

One piece of advice i got back in the day, ws if you findyour self pushing the mixer, monitor, and headphones... is to take the monitor/headphone gain down to zero and start climbing again. placebo effect that works pretty well

p45

is right, the 57 headphone is way louder than the 62

The headphone volume on the 57 was way too loud. I use to have to use a volume adjuster so I could turn it down. It was deafening out at level 2. Some of you guys need to have your hearing checked. Now I can have it around the 3-4 mark and fine tune it. The way it was before, there wasn't much fine tuning possible.

Are you guys maxing the volume out (level 10)?

I agree with the headphone volume fix. With my aiaiai heaphones the sound is just ok. Not loud enough for club use really. With my Xone headphones it bumps at bit more because of the bigger drivers, but still I find myself turning it up more than Im used too. Also you gotta realize everyone has there mixers setup differently. Some use auto gain, some don't. Some put up the main volume, some dont. With this new serato software version if I have the auto gain on say around 93, main volume in the middle, the gain on each channel barely reaches yellow. Not like my 57 where I could use auto gain and the tracks would bump right below red

I love everything about my Sixty-Two, but agree that the headphone volume needs to be addressed. Aside from that, I'd like for Rane to try and implement a Ducking Echo like on the Pioneer 909

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@niro

I think people just dont like the idea of turning it up as far as we are now.
I never go past 12Oclock on the 62. and 9pm on the 57

but i think people are saying the low-end (as well as the volume) is lower in the 62.

seeing how you are a in headphone mixer i cant imagine going that high either, if i mixed that particular way....
but being a monitor guy 1 headphone cup is off completely.
and the other one might only be on (for arguments sake) at 50/75% coverage [IE not squarely placed on the ear snug)

IN the headphones though, yes... there is no good reason to go any higher whats supplied by the headphone power. (provided you have good headphones with some good ear-to-can sealnig ability)

Thanks for the suggestions all:)

Question... If you all turn the headphone volume up all the way on the 62 is it too loud?

Zach i have turned up the headphone all the way a couple of times now, and it starts to distort in the headphones when you get close to maxing out the volume (but i have found that I still cant hear the bottom end properly, unless you do the split cue work around mentioned above) the same pair of headphones on the 57 used to go louder overall without distorting.

I also use booth monitor speakers and have the headphones over 1 ear and agree with what Joshua Carl is saying about the headphone not being on "squarely" but i think at least part of the problem here is definitely less bottom end in the 62 h/phone output vs the 57 (& every other mixer i have used) regardless of what volume you have the headphone set at.

I will bring my 57 out of retirement & do some tests

My 62 z will be here tomorrow. Should i be worried about headphone level. You guys make me nervous now.

It's a pretty minuscule detail that 9/10 guys might never notice...

But that doesent necessarily mean it should be addressed

I put it 2nd to a more controllable efx parameter window

Unless you guys are not getting enough volume at max, than I would understand. I tested the volume at max and there isn't distortion. The distortion is coming from your headphones not being able to take the volume.

I also understand not liking to go over a certain point, 12oclock is a good spot. It's probably the OCD in me and a few others, but with the way the 62 handles its output, I've learned to overcome my OCD. I still feel weird being at Max on the master sometimes.

tried different headphones, its the headphone volume on the mixer all while taking account on not letting the gains continuously peak. auto gain set at 95. headphone volume is set at about 3 to 4 o'clock to get close to desired level with headphones pushed against ears. turned up all the way not really distorted. have never had to have headphone volume on any mixer turned up so loud to get to where I need it.

Question, I just bought a rane ztrip. what firmware are we up to number wise?

Just use the latest 2.4.4 and it should let you know in the set up screen if you want to update the firmware or not.

its says firmware is 1.17 but i feel like thats not the newest?

I have scratch live 2.4.4 installed

Its all depends on where your pan knob is set at in the cue section. Obviously in the middle at 12oclock is loud, but when mixing for example at say 9oclock the volume just drops and there is no bottom end. This is where I see the problem lies with the volume and thats where I find myself turning up the volume and then turning it down constantly. Im no fan of the push button cue section even though Im very much used to it now. I dont know anyone whos is using the flex cue button either so for most DJs I know, its not being used. I wish this mixer came with the 57 style cue. Its would have been perfect.

+1 ^^^

I also miss the joystick instant doubles. The double clicks with the 62 instant double is tougher to perform when juggling tracks.

Can somebody look for me in there set up and see if 1.17 is the latest firmware?

Yeah that too, if I move too fast sometimes it will just scroll and throw on the wrong song. I do love the scroll knobs tho. Im controlling everything from the mixer now. I barely touch the laptop unless im searching for something.

I know its pretty much impossible given the design, but i would love for the BACK button by default to either be "tab focus" or "load to prepare"

its bascially an unused button now...
i know i can map it, but i dont want to go through that, just for 1 button

and yes, i agree... cranking the volume on the headphone volume it gets plenty loud, but there is very little bottom.
rather have it be full, and not as loud. (like the 57.... Ive been using the same exact headphones)

+ 1

I understand where you guys are coming from, I miss the joysticks of the 57 also. It was accurate and had multiple functions. But we are on the 62 and the engineers designed it and we have to make use of it as we did with the 57.

Here are a few set ups that I've been using from the start to make my work flow easier.

1. I assign the "push down" function on the loop scroll as the instant double

2. I've also assigned the back as the tab focus, to move back and forth from crate to track.

I've also done a few other things, but it's a little different and uses some what of a work around.

Also I'm not sure about the bass dropping out on the cue, mine seems to be fine. Good luck

Everyone is ignoring you lol

Both of my 62s are at 1.17

Usually there's an update button in the Serato Setup screen that tells you to upgrade firmware.

Its all good. I found it. Im used to people on here. Makes me laugh

I got my 62z two weeks ago. I didn't own a 57 before, so we're still in the getting-to-know-each-other phase with my 62z :)
Although I'm very happy with the device, there are a few things I'd love to see in the future.

> LED display showing the loop/roll length.
I imagine it like this: whenever I change the length with the rotary control the display switches to the number of beats. As a bonus, It could also show if the selection is loop or roll.


+1
especially the led brightness and echo feedback control.



I don't have trouble with the headphone level, but that ducking echo looks awesome :)

The mixer feels and looks very solid, the only vulnerability I could find are the fader contour controls. I can easily imagine them breaking off in a busy night, if the mixer isn't placed properly or the table isn't wide enough. A shame the designers didn't leave the slider controls from the 57.

That's it for now. If I find something new, I'll post it here.

ya fader controls should have been like the ddj and push in when not in use.

sure, that would also be a good solution.

The pan knob is mixing what you are cuing with what is already playing out of the master.
If what you are cuing is not yet playing out of the master than if you pan to the master you are going to hear less of what you are cuing and more of what is already playing out of the master.
The solution is to keep the pan knob all the way to the left (cue) when needing to listen to a track that hasn't been brought into the mix yet.

When I bring a track in the mix I like to go back and forth from monitoring the cue (all the way to the left) to monitoring the master output (pan all the way to the right).

So far the complaint here isn't that the headphone volume isn't loud enough.. its that you have to turn up the volume knob more to get the desired loudness.
I think there would be an issue if the headphone output didn't kick out enough volume.

I'm also not sure what the complaint about not having enough low end is all about?
I disagree but aside from that, when you are djing in a louder environment you can't even hear bass in your headphones due to all the noise already bouncing around in the environment. All we as djs listen to to mix is the hi end.
If you really want to test the low end of the headphone output I would do a side by side comparison with another mixer (making sure you are monitoring the cue... not a mix of the cue and master).

Good points. I do like the cue section, but I dont love it. I think the reality is Im so used to the cue from the 57 thats it taking a lot of adjusting for me to get comfortable with the sound of 62. Turning the pan knob all the way to the right was just as easy as pressing a button before. Its different and I really used that cue button/master a lot from the 57. Still though Im definitely turning up the volume more than I ever have. I cant explain it, I think the signal was just stronger while cueing/mixing in the headphones. I could be wrong.

The headphone output of the 57 is definitely hotter... too hot though. Which is why we used a different headphone amp in the 62.
I understand not wanting to change your way of mixing but its just a different mixer.
We all have to go through the growing pains:)

well, just as long as it wasn't mass delerium!
for a second there i thought i was going crazy, and people were implying its the same as the 57...

Ive certainly adjusted fire, Its not a TTM57MKII... and needs to be treated as a new model not an upgrade....
but to be honest, for us guy who mix out of the headphones that thump is missed
not something dyer, but its something that takes a bit of adjusting... especially after using nothing but a 57 for a few years 3+ nights every week

I just tested two different pairs of headphones and did an A/B comparison with the 62 vs. the 57.
There is absolutely no difference in low end. They sound identical in the entire overall sound. The only difference is in actual volume.
Try it out yourself:)

for me, as I stated earlier, the volume is just too low when in the cue position. I need to have it at about 2 or 3 o'clock to the get the right loudness and this has been tried with different headphones. normally on other mixers in the past, that would be at about 11 o'clock position.

Same here, but as stated above, get used to it. Its a diff mixer.

The volume will be different on a majority of different mixers and brands. I would understand a need for change if your sending your channel signals properly and am not getting enough at level 10. Yes it sucks that you look down and see levels that high, but on the other hand I'm able to have my levels at 2-3 (8-9 o clock) without using an extra device to decrease the volume. I would say it's currently at a good middle ground.

I definitely make sure I keep my gains barley ever hitting red. Yeah, its a different mixer and I'm used to it, I'm just stating my findings and what issue I personally have and per the heading on this, its on my wish list. If others have them same, cool, maybe it will get a fix. If others don't, oh well.

Hy every body,

I'am french, The impedance of a headphone is the factor that affects the volume. What´s impédance of your headphone ?

Regards

The Rane tech already stated its a different headphone amp in the mixer than what was used in the 57. So its not the headphones, but the mixer itself that we need to get used to.

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He is correct in saying the impedance of a headphone does determine how loud a headphone will get regardless of the headphone amp used.
A lower impedance should give you more volume.
That just means that if you plug a lower impedance headphone into the 62 vs. a higher impedance headphone you will get more volume out of the lower impedance headphone.

The ability to tighten the upfader curves so that full sound is at the top of the fader but the curve to silence is really short so that turntablists can do fast transforms. At the moment upfader tricks are a pain with the curve being slow. That's my only qualm about the 62, the rest I love! Quite a lot of turntablists who also own the mixer have said they agree with me.

ok, so I just put on a loop.
hooked up both my mixers.
tweaked the gains on each to clean, strong signal to send out at 95-97 DBA on my sound meter
(sitting tight between my vmoda cans (held tight on the meter mic, closed)
which as we all said, and agreed.. 12 Oclock on the 62 is about 9pm on the 57
to maintain that DBA.

but i have to say, there is a difference in the low end. no question
next time Ill record it or something.
but having the 2 mixers, with the same sample and having the DBA output identical
perhaps its not noticable by everyone, but i can def hear it.

does it warrant anything further than that, probably not...Ive been on the mixer now for 4+ months, Ive adapted...
in a perfect world Id love it to be as punchy and bass heavy as the 57s headphones.

but more than all that id put more stock in a echo parameters being broken down in the panel like the hardware effects on the 57 panel
having the length/depth controlled with 1 knob is quite a crutch.
rather have the depth on the panel, and length on the knob

but i am happy to report unplugging the 57 & 62 a few times and swapping the mixers back and forth.
(without closing SSL)
worked flawlessly! not that anyone does that too often

I have one suggestion, this is a good one.

Please! Put in an Audition mode so you can DJ with crossfader in the headphones. (I know this will disable the cue).

What's the difference between that and turning the cue knob to master?

You can also just leave the knob in the middle and un-cue both tracks.

The amount of bass in my headphones on my TTM56s and 62 is identical. Certainly there is a volume difference, but I think the 62 is plenty loud. Might save some DJs' hearing. :)

I would be really interested to know if there is a firmware schedule we could see. I'd love to know when the new firmware is slated to come out!

Some way to channel swap would be huge... Obviously not something that the majority of DJs have to deal with, but for those who do swap channels it's pretty much a deal breaker.

Pretty much the only straight up "mistake" with the 62 since with built in DVS there's no reasonable work around unless you NEVER share a mixer.

> MIDI should work while SL is running

As soon as you start SL, the MIDI ports vanishes, because the mixer switches PIDs and goes into SL mode.

:(

I'm testing out a 62 for the first time tonight, and naturally the first thing I checked was headphone volume.

It gets really loud at 12:00 (using Sennheiser HD25 headphones) and I don't hear any lack of bass. Seemed like all the low end is there.

It's totally possible (depending on the design of the headphone amp) for different impedance headphones to affect volume and perceived frequency response. Especially true if there are any coupling capacitors in the circuit between the headphone amp output and the headphones themselves (different headphone impedances could change the low frequency rolloff). idle speculation based on little information, of course :-).

The headphone amp from your mixer should be as true to the outputting source as possible. Coloring it with bass or something else is not a good idea.

@nik, midi does work. did you click midi tab in setup

The SL drivers will not allow you to midi out of the mixer (using mixer knobs and buttons to control other software) when serato is connected to the mixer. The tab allows you to use other midi devices to map to SL.

I thought thats what you meant. no you can not use other software and serato. very true. Im sure rane and serato's agreement has something to do with that,. :)

I think it would be great if something could be implemented where the FlexFX button flashes once triggered instead of just turning brighter. On a few occasions I didn't realize that I still had it engaged and... Oops! I think if it could flash (it doesn't necessarily have to even be On/Off, if it could flash from Lit to Brighter) it would be much easier to notice without having to look down at the mixer.

And of course Ducking Echo. :)

maybe the gain on the channels with ppl having this problem is too low. i keep mine at 3 and the headphone volume sounds low and definitely if you have a monitor right next to you or behind you. and if i turn the gains to the 12 o'clock position the headphones have good volume but then the meters turn red (peak).

love this idea!!! 100+

Yes.. if your input levels are low your headphones are going to be lower.
If you run your inputs just under clipping (which is where you should run them) you should get plenty enough volume in the headphones.

ive now used my 62 at 5 gigs and 2 club gigs and havent noticed any headphone volume issues so im happy about that. you guys had me worried.

Is there a way to MIDI map a button on the mixer to become an ON/OFF switch for the filter knobs? I like to filter up/down and then bring it back on beat, but it's hard to turn the filter knob back to exactly 12 o'clock very quickly.

^^^ that's a good idea
I used to toggle the on/off while turning the dj-efx filter ...made for a nice effect especially w an echo

No this isn't possible.

Hy

I have one suggestion about 62 firmware , it's possible to add re-loop on the button exit loop like Denon - SC 3900 or CDJ.

Excuse me, I don't speak English Very Well.

Regards.

All,

As stated in this post: serato.com, I'd like to see the crossfader slow curve setting be able to be set to full linear, like the TTM56s. For weird people that mix with the crossfader AND the upfaders (like me) it will help getting smoother mixes.

Andrei

Fix LIVEFEED. It hasn't worked since I sold my perfectly good 57 to "upgrade" to the 62. Tired of waiting, should be on top of the list to fix/replace broken features instead of other things.


Original post was July of last year, still no word.

serato.com

+50 for this via that thread. Do something please.

bump

mostly because a few conversations I had over the past few weeks.

it would seem, and im sure people have mentioned it in this thread and other places.

The filter is a bit harsh at 2 o'Clock and has limited parameters.
Ive personally grown used to it.
but i know a handful of people have gone to using the Serato Remote app just so they can get controls of the DJ FX 1-Knob Filter again. (even though they Owned a 62)

work around- (after tweaking the existing parameters and finding the filter I like)
I have resorted to dropping the gain about 10% and pulling the mids out about 30%
to stop the filter from putting the line in the red (when already playing at preffered peak level)

as far as my other original suggestions:

Ive got used to the headphones, but im still not thrilled with them personally. i had to use my 57 last week (how i stumbled back onto how smooth the 1-knob filter is) and out of habbit, pushed my headphones to 2 o'clock and almost popped an eardrum.

Id still love the parameter controls of the 57 Echo (HP Echo hold is what i used)
ive got used to turning the 62 parameter knob while my echo trails, adjusting it.

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I'm assuming you are you talking about the filter in the effects section? Not the filter per channel correct?

no, actually the channel filter (channel one and two) on the mixer itself

when i roll the knob (provided i have the channel operating at peak value) it will put the channel into the red with a bunch of mid-low and mid frequencies)

which is why i offset moving the knob with taking the mids down and and the bass down.

obviously its not so much the case on a simple kick and snare.
but on a busy track with vocals, strings (IE alot of stuff in the mids) it will put it right into the red.

and like i mentioned, i only bring this up after having conversations with a few 62 owners and we all said, yeah, I noticed that, i do that too.

i do this alot, becuase i do like the filter a great deal.
I actually like it MORE than the pioneer 900 nexus filter (alot of people cream over that filter)

with the subtle combo of filter, trim and EQs on the 62, you can also make on the fly DIY acapellas. (obviously, not real ones but enough to flip a track with)

All you have to do is adjust the resonance of the filters within the 62's Preference pane through 'System Preferences' so there is no resonance.
Its boosting the audio because the resonance is high atm.

yeah, i fiddlers with the different settings and i like the resonance a bit on the higher end,

one of the effects I like a great deal is a 1/1 echo while increasing the filter amount
(gives a nice flitersweep echo trail, i know that stacking the echos also pushes the gains, but even without the echo)

the 1-knob filter in the DJ FX does not do this.

I just messed with this.
The resonance with the 1-knob filter is set to 3.
I found that putting the resonance of the filter on the 62 to the third notch you get the same "swoosh" of the resonance without the boost.
I didn't see a boost until after I set the resonance to 5 notches or higher actually.

Hi everyone and Zach S, I had just place an ordered for my new baby the Rane Sixty Two Z ! Cheers everybody !

My two cents on the headphone loudness or lack of loudness is this & I think my opinion is a fair one & my method for adjusting it so I can hear in any environment.

Condition A: In a good booth I can hear perfectly with no issues with the knobs at 12 o'clock position for both the Pan & Level.

Condition B: Booth is not a good distance from the house speakers and the ambient noise just makes everything bounce all over the booth making it very hard to hear at 12 O'Clock position.

My solution for Condition B is i just turn the Pan level to the left, not entirely as I like to hear both but I find by fine tuning the Level and Pan to a desirable level does the job for me every time.

Now that might work for me but it won't work for everyone and it is impossible for one way to work for everyone so you'll get many opinions on this and some saying the levels should be fine and don't need to be tweaked.

I don't agree with that because other than every environment being different you also have to factor in that everyone also has different hearing capacities so I think a software adjustment would be an ideal setting because it would be naive to think people with hearing disabilities don't DJ. They might not be a major audience but they exist & for that reason alone there should be a master headphone gain in the software, after all there is a master gain in the SSL software for the output volume so why not the headphone volume?

I am so totally agreed with PorkyG !! That is just a reasonable solution to every individual DJ. Another thing I must point out here but I'm not sure does any sixty two user comes across this problem yet or will in future if this doesn't get a patch fix on the upcoming release of the new firmware. Trust me it did happened. Ok, while jamming in the middle of no where this happened to me a few times since I got my sixty two, after loaded a track to the left deck (only happened to the left side), all my cue points doesn't lights up on the mixer. But the cue points did appeared on my SSL ! I was like (wt*) ?? Then all I need to do was flipping the channel selector to other sources and back to my active USB (either A or B) happened on both before. So pls, give a shot and try out. I'm not joking nor kidding. After flipping back, all the green cue points lights appears light up and available again. It's so weird ! Pls do something on this too. Thank you Rane !

If I were to name and list out.. Rane had infinity improvements to go... Good Luck Rane !

That happened to me a handful of times while I was switching back and forth from sample player mode to cue mode. Mostly with other DJs who aren't used to the 62. If my memory is correct if you accidentally switch to a different bank while in sample mode your cues will be gone on the mixer when you switch back. Next time it happens just go into sample player mode again and choose the correct bank, usually bank A. First time it happened I was playing live and had no idea what to do. My cues were gone. Now I know what to do and why it happens. There is nothing wrong with the mixer, its just user error.

As far as the headphone output and cue section... it still sucks lol. Im definitely used to it, but I love the cue section of the 57 much better. It was easier and faster to mix with in a loud club setting IMO.

We're keen to hear any suggestions.
We're all about solving the needs of performers. Just let us know and we'll improve where we can:)

Hey zach, maybe this was covered but will our 62 be mapped exactly the same to serato dj like it is to scratch live. plug and play the same.

on the 64 there are more options displayed on the lcd. anyway the 62 could get that?

What options are you referring to?
There are some updates to this section on the 64 such as the ability to adjust the resonance of the channel's dedicated filters and the ability to pitch up/down the MIDI beat clock's send signal. Other than that I can't think of anything else.
With that said, I do believe the 62 will be getting updated so it does include these features but I can't say with 100% certainty at this point.

yeah those. i never change my resonance, but it would be nice to see and be able to change it from the lcd.

in a perfect world i would like to see everything that can be changed in the 62 audio control panel.

Will the mapping for serato dj be basically the same so what each knob does now its does same in serato dj?

Pretty much aside from slip mode and sync maybe being added. I'm not sure how they are gonna do it?

ok cool. i figured had to be similiar just wondered since 62 was built with scratch live in mind didnt want a bunch of bottons labled something differen then what they do.

where can I find the release notes for the firmware updates? Link please...

The changes are in the new SDJ manual serato.com

There are a few issues with the new firmware and it was stated a new version will be coming soon

HEADPHONE TONE ADJUST ADDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

well done!

for those that done read manuals....
you might wanna check this one out.... lots of Shift values added for functions.

looking forward to Ducking Echo.

By "Shift" button, the manual seems to be referring to the "Delete" keys - is that correct? The buttons say "Delete" on my 62.

Yeah the delete button is renamed shift for the new firmware..

thanks! =)

So is the faceplate new too? This is just like when I bought my 57 and Rane updated the B buttons right after.

ducking echo is quite nice. but there appears to be a bug with it. it sounds good to me tho.

shift button is huge!

+1

does anyone who has done the firmware update (or has read the manual) know if you can double click on shift(old delete) button to turn on a "shift lock" (like how shift works on ios devices) ?

if this was possible a feature suggestion for the upcoming firmware update would be to be able to turn off "shift lock" by either hitting shift(old delete) again OR hitting the auto/manual loop, hope rane are reading this thread :)

Looking forward to doing the firmware update & checking this for myself AFTER the weekend!

cheers

Hey Pual..
What would you need the shift locked on for ?

The main use will to enable/disable sync or slip mode but you want be doing that all the time ?

so you dont have to press shift and sync to sync - just one button press to sync, re-sync or un-sync - insted of having to hold shift for these functions -

it would make basically it easier to switch between the 3 functions that the 2 strips on the side will now have, insted of just manual/auto loops in 2.5

yeah i see what you are saying mate - for me though i never use the manual or auto loop functions at all on 62, i use dicers for that so i am thinking that the only thing i would use those buttons for would be sync functions

is there slip mode with 62 now?

That manual is confusing as hell to me

i have to print it i think. trying to read on computer is killing me

yes there is slip mode. the indicator looks like two upside down triangles next to the deck.

you enable it on the 62 with shift (delete) + save/loop

please rane make an updated top plate.

Hey Paul .. Once u enable sync every time you load a track it will sync the BPM to the other deck so you don't need to keep hitting sync button .. Unless you turn off the sync on load option in the setup menu.

maybe 12inchskinz can do a serato DJ faceplate/skin for the 62?

I'm sure jarod will do one.

after new beta firmware:

1) fix tap tempo, after firmware update it seems to want all my songs to be 200+bpm (double what they should be)

2) bring back the old filter settings, on the old firmware you could have the filter set with 0 resonance, the new one at the lowest setting is about what 25% of the old setting was. also because the filter is selected in the mixer you cannot MIDI map filter resonance (was i the only person who did this? )

that raises another point Boab - if i am playing a song that 100bpm & I load (for example) a 70bpm song & "sync"is turned on I dont want the 70BPM to be playing at 100bpm, - although sync-ing everything/everytime when a track is loaded would obviously work well for house/EDM music,

the "shift lock" idea might not be that good an idea anyway, as you may end up deleteing cue points in error.... the way that Rane have implimented slip/sync on the 62 in this update is good considering the available buttons they had to work with!