I agree mostly. It is a bit sad that a couple of functions which look like they would be easy to implement have not been added yet. (effects being controllable from different groups, or more footswitch control)

This also applies to some functions which have been promised and never have been added, or... the very limited (wacky working) ASIO drivers.

But it is still a very good mixer, with a good value.

i heart ttm57sl

Yes, the ASIO support is definitely wacky and still no Core Audio support what so ever! Is it even possible to improve effects control with a midi controller? Thanks for your input!

robosapien, I think youve summed it up what Ive been feeling

"feeling" because I dont know what the deal is. Just dont like considering a Vestax, or 909, when I would think that the TTM57 should or could already meet those functions that would make it more perfect. just hurts to be so close you can taste it, but dont get any.

i like my 57.but it is passed dew on updates! lol!

Core Audio has been in from day one. I can't comment on how good it is as I don't use a Mac but it's definitely there.

That is not true. There was Core Audio support since day one. The TTM57 works fine with Core Audio.



Technically it is possible of course.



+1

In addition to what you guys had already mentioned, I believe they could add more effects.

+1 on all the above! split-cue; SSL running with multi-track; customizable fader curves in software; simpler firing of effects (foot pedal, other groups).

I meant using the SSL as an audio interface in Mac using Core Audio, I should have clarified. ASIO is technically only used in Windows correct? I should mention that despite of set backs of the TTM-57SL I still believe it's the best mixer available on the market with it's built in SL box and software integration. (But then again it's the only mixer with these functions) It's just sad to see Serato spend their energy on other projects while certain TT-57SL features haven't seen the light of day despite the possibility of future firmware updates. I beginning to believe that firmware updates can/t really change anything and we're pretty much stuck with what we have. (Which definitely isn't a bad as a whole is just hard when the functions you want are there but can't always be implemented the way they should be) Has anyone be able to implement a midi controller to fix some of these voids? It will be interest to find out if the solution to these missing feature ends up being made by Rane or another 3rd party.

Again, as others have said, I agree with most of your post, but I am telling you, the 57 supports CoreAudio in OS X! I am using it as I type this!

Im actually ok with the wait, if its a wait and not an end. perhaps things like stability and usb drop outs are being worked on. and its not really itch. But I am disappointed that some of the things, the obvious things wernt dealt with in the first place.

I'm guessing you're getting mixed up between core audio on the SL 1 and the TTM 57SL.
The 57 has had core audio since day 1 and by all accounts it works well. The SL 1 has never had core audio and never will.

OK I'm stupid and thought the TTM 57SL didn't support core audio like the SL 1. I'm glad you guys pointed that out. Anyway I hope I haven't come off to much of a whiner. The mixer is definitely dope overall!

I hate to say it, but I feel that we are getting the short end of the stick with this mixer. In my opinion, it is the best 2-channel mixer on the market, and is theoretically limitless in its potential, but it feels like addressing and implementing promised features as well as heavily-suggested updates has fallen by the wayside in the dogged quest to get Video SL to market. This mixer is an amazing concept, and based on what we have been told all along, it should be getting better all the time! Instead, it is almost exactly the same as when I first purchased it with very little in the way of updates or improvements.

I would still like to see split cue, custom fader curves, and it would be nice if the effects were actually intuitive to use (I know they are useable in their current iteration, but to get the most out of them, you have to really spend time familiarizing yourself with all of the settings and controls; with the Pioneer 909, a moron could instantly figure out how to use the effects with tremendous control and precision). The mixer itself is an excellent product, and I feel that most of the drawbacks come from the total lack of "future firmware updates" that we keep hearing will come along and solve our problems or meet our needs, but that never seem to make it to us...

The worst part is that it is like Akiem says -



It should all be available considering the talent level of the two companies involved, but strangely isn't. And whatever happened to the P'n'T plug-in for SSL that we used to hear so much about?

I thought I remember reading early PR for the Rane TM57SL to have future midi support. I wish it was coming soon!

OK, everybody stop whinng...lol
There is a little thing called research and development. I'm pretty sure they're workin all or most of these things that they promised. You can't rush technology. If they rushed to put it out the updates and something didn't work correctly then you'd all be cryin about that. Just be patient. I have 2 57SL's and they do exactly what I need them to do...allow me to mix music!!

2? damn :)

I'm an equipment junkie. That's my addiction. I think it comes from growing up without the alot of money, so now that I have the loot I buy equipment like its going out of style...lol
I have 2 - 57Sl's
2 Vestax PMC-05's
6 - Technics 1200's and 2 - 1200M5G's.

lol. I think you should do the little thing called research and development.

New features are due... Where is the damn mixtape function??

LOL, mixtape function...I want my 57SL to change my oil and rotate my tires too

Dynamite, lol. I think you should do the little thing called research and development, then you would know what the mixtape function is about.

School me, I'm too lazy to do research...lol
what's the mixtape function?

That's what you said:

Yeah, but I never said that I do research and development...lol

That's what you said:


BEtter?

;)

haha, hwy you gotta use my own words against me?

I also said...

Don't you know we live in a microwave society? I want answers to be given to me, I don't wanna have to find them myself.

I will now quote my idol Scrooge McDuck "Work smarter, not harder"
LOL

oops, I meant why you gotta use my own words against me?...damn typos

remixmag.com <- click.

=)

LOL, I don't fall into that category. Been doin this for almost 20 years now. I've paid my dues and then some

INST-O-MATIC MUSIC... word of the year.

The music industry is so F*cked up right now. Time to change the game.

I think we have just officially jacked this thread

yah wtf rane like i love the piece of hardware but now that u have everyone u hav really turned ur back on the existing ttm57sl and well it seems lik u f*ed the Sl1 users.

And u really f*ed the VSL owners from day 1.

And we the screwed customers are all loyal... WOW that is messed up???

What is going on is there any way to make this program more efficient and user friendly effects...

relax..... wow.

they created a 57 to upgrade a sl1 with more options.and it takes time.

The 57 is and will be a long term investment, so I doubt too many features are going to be rushed to certain demands. I would understand if the mixer was not functioning correctly. but these are request for features (that will come) just not at a drop of a dime.

my 2 cents.

one thing id like to see changed is the flex fx.......... i like to connect my sampler in the aux input, and from the mixer to the sampler (to use effects from the sampler)..... welll i also like to route my ssl effects to the aux to use the flex effects( you cant do this with the sampler connected)....... can this be changed? or upgraded?

I heart it can't because of the way the 57 is designed; i.e., there is no way of changing it via firmware.

Unforunately the effects also affect the mic input, so people's voice start to echo when they announce something and I forget to turn off the efx.