Main complaint is the dip when you have the crossfader curve set to slow. I dunno what the big deal is...it's pretty easy to get around that and still sound good.

I <3 my 57 so I'll recommend it :)

Dude, i wouldnt get the 57 if you are that dedicated to edm.

I would get a 909... The curves on the 909 are much nicer than on the 57.

I play everything, so bought a 57, because i cant myself moving on from scratchlive.

As an edm dj, cant you see yourself leaving behind your decks completely soon?

I'm sort of in the same boat. I really like the 57 after playing with at my local DJ store, and am seriously considering getting one. But, I do not play hiphop/rap and am not much of a scratcher, I am a techno/minimal/house DJ. I currently have a Xone:92 as that's the minimal/techno DJ's current preferred mixer of choice, and I love it (minus a few little nitpicks), but it's big, and although I thought I would need more than 2 channels, I really don't need more than 2, and my previous mixer was a Pioneer DJM-909, which I loved also and had for 3.5 years, but sold to get the Xone.

But the 57 just makes a lot of sense to me now. It's the mixer for the experienced SSL user, which I obviously am, and I love how it just simplifies everything with SSL, connection wise and functionality wise. I'm not too worried about the whole "you got to bring the mixer if you want to use SSL" problem many people have with it, as when I play a gig, it's usually with several other people 90% of which use SSL also and will have a SL1 setup already. So, if I do get a 57 it would be for my home use only. My plan would be to sell my Xone:92 and SL1, I can easily get over $1500 for both.

Only thing is how are the filters on the 57? Seeing as that's one of the main features and reason people get a Xone:92, I can't live without filters now. I didn't get too heavy into the 57's effects, but are the 57's filters manual, or BPM sync'd, or both? I have to have manual filters.

I'm not too worried about the crossfader's curve, as I mix with the upfaders only, and would keep the crossfader on sharp for scratching, which we all know is great on the 57. How are the upfader's curves? Couldn't be as bad as the Xone:92's (one of my nitpicks), imagine 0-10 on the fader, on a Xone:92 0-7 is basically no change in volume, and then exponential from 7-10. Going down from 10 to 9 on the upfaders is a serious drop in volume, something I really dislike on the Xone:92, but have "learned" to get used to. That and the super long 60mm upfaders, I much prefer 45mm faders.

Anyway, I dunno, just ranting now. I guess I'm just looking for opinions on the matter. Any EDM only DJs using a 57?

yes, you can set the parameteres of the filters.

Konix - This is precisely my problem with the 57 and why I'm still using my 909. In order to get really smooth blends using the upfaders, I prefer to have the upfader curves set as linear, NOT exponential. The 57 upfaders when set to slow are exponential! This is why I cannot seem to pull off those sweet sounding long blends like I can with my 909...mainly because on the 909, I can set all of the faders EXACTLY how I want them.

Honestly, if you are used the exponential curve on the Xone:92, you may not have as much of a problem as I have had. Bottom line, the mixer is awesome, I just wish we could get those user definable fader curves! Good luck with your decision... Vega

Filters aren't as good as they are on the xone as although you can have two running you can only control one at a time. They can be set for either manual sweep or BPM sync.

I disagree with Vega, I think the curve of the line fader set to slow is perfectly smooth. The thing that has taken me a while to get used to is that I prefer having the faders cut at the top as I play techno and tend to cut tracks up using the line faders. The 57 set to fast cuts the track at the bottom of the fader which has advantages but takes a lot of getting used to.

I play house/tech- trance/hard trance adn really like the mixer. The curve of the channel faders is fine on slow, no problems when you are actually mixing. They are plenty long, so don't let anyone tell you otherwise. The x-fader though is another story. It is near useless for EDM because of the power increase at either end. Really, it's a -3db dip to the middle. I will use it every now and then by slightly nudging it towards one channel to fine tune a mix but have never been able to utilize it much because of that dang dip. Seems to me the could give us a a setting to kill the dip, or adjust the curves a bit more quite easily though. I'm hoping they'll listen, or come out with a 3 or 4 channel mixer dedicated for us EDM guys.

Maybe it's just that I have always used Pioneer mixers...the DJM-600 for a looong time, and now the 909. I still say that the curve on the line faders is exponential as opposed to linear on say the DJM-600. I just do not sound as smooth mixing on the 57...but maybe it not a problem with the curves, maybe it's just me :(

I use the 600 a lot too, if anything I would say the curve is steeper on the 600 than it is on the 57.

On the line faders?? Really? No way! The line faders on the 600 are much more linear than the line faders on the 57. Maybe I'm missing an update to the firmware on my 57?? Please tell me I am not going crazy here!!

I find that the line faders on the 600 fade very quite slowly at the lower end and a bit faster at the top. It's not anywhere as steep a transition as vestax faders but it slopes the same way. I find the 57 faders are linear across there whole length on the slow setting.
It's not a firmware thing, the 57 firmware has never altered the slope on any of the faders.

I mix allkind of music, but i'am going more toward EDM
Trance, Progressive House, Electro

I can't make my mind up what mixer to get? it stands between
The new Ecler Evo 4 (4ch and alot of fx & sampler)
i know ecler is know for good sounding mixers.

Or the TTM 57SL most for built in SSL + buttons for
cue, loop, and the ability to scroll in crates & load songs
without having to touch the laptop.

and it's rane so buildquality & sound is real good.

but there are 2 things, that hesitates me to get the TTM 57SL
1. all the issues with the buttons that need to be sprayed
with deoxit, new mixers should not have be fixed like this.

2. Only 2ch (not really a big problem), and not so much FX.

help me out one part of my heart pounds for Rane and the other for Ecler.

slightly OT: what do you think is the ideal fader curve for EDM?
(you = anyone is invited to give his/her personal opinion!)

Hey Ranz - as far as the deoxit. It's really not a big deal. I spray like once every 6 months just to keep it smooth.. I have the 1st edition 57 and all the buttons work great-knock on wood-. I mix House and the upfader is a little short for those long blends. I would imagine it would feel shorter for you guys doing trance and stuff. The sound of the mixer is great though, and just having that small footprint is really nice. BUT... I do wish I had more channels...a longer upfade(I mostly mix with the x fader in the middle). Better effect management. Don't get me wrong I love my 57, but I think I'm going to get djm800 and throw the rotary on two channels. I'll probably hold on to my 57 though. Haven't researched it but I think I can use the 57 as a sl box at home. Every club got serato anyway and a whole lot got djm800 too...

treeo730 yes the 800 is club standard, but i think that the Ecler Evo 4 is a better sounding mixer so i probably will get that sweet mixer when it's out here in sweden, also i think the effects will be better. but rotary would be real nice dont know if that is an option on the Evo 4.

If I had to do it again I would not buy the TTM57. I would just get another mixer and use the Trigger Finger for the cue points, looping, and instant doubles. A lot of clubs don't have a way to set up the 57 so you're in trouble if you get too dependent on it. I can do everything but effects with the trigger finger and any mixer via USB/MIDI. The only effect I rarely use is echo which isn't a big deal if I don't have it.

And also I AM PISSSED that they haven't added features like multitrack recording like they promised 2 years ago.

I'm lucky enough to have both the 57 and the DJM 800. I just got the 57 and it will be great for mobiles and open format gigs, where as if I'm just playin house, then I'll definitely bring out the pioneer. The color efx on the pio are crazy son.

Hey Jonasty, that's what I was thinking of doing... Can you use the 57 as like "ssl box". If I get the DJM800 I don't want to invest in a serato box too. Anywhere you go they already have a box ready to go. Plus I save myself some $$$$.

yeah that multitracking feature is pretty frustrating, when I got the 57 that was one of the main reasons I bought it....