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Scratch Live with Live
ifunk
2:48 AM 13 October 2005
I'm considering buying Scratch Live but want to use it with a second computer running Live. Is there a way to send Live any kind of timecode from Scratch so Live can follow along? Thanks for everyones help.
Josh
2:54 AM 13 October 2005
There is no direct timecode output from scratch LIVE, the only way I guess would be to somehow have one of the decks in Scratch LIVE play a track which is timecode as audio?
yuri
6:40 PM 14 October 2005
this question is coming up alot lately. Seems like we need a good solution.
eru
1:34 AM 15 October 2005
There are 2 good solutions.
1) Buy a mixer with Midi Clock output. The Ecler Nuo5 and Allen & Heath Xone:3d are the only ones that do it.
2) Build a midi-clock device that takes in audio, extracts the tempo, and syncs a midi click to it. This will probably cost you more in lost productivity than the other 2 mixers, but it'd make you feel cool. www.ucapps.de has information, but idk if there's enough information or capability in the PIC to actually do this.
and one bad solution.
Red Sound used to make MIDI clock devices that did just what I described above, but they stopped making them...they're in limited production now (if it's not over yet)...and they cost like $500.
1) Buy a mixer with Midi Clock output. The Ecler Nuo5 and Allen & Heath Xone:3d are the only ones that do it.
2) Build a midi-clock device that takes in audio, extracts the tempo, and syncs a midi click to it. This will probably cost you more in lost productivity than the other 2 mixers, but it'd make you feel cool. www.ucapps.de has information, but idk if there's enough information or capability in the PIC to actually do this.
and one bad solution.
Red Sound used to make MIDI clock devices that did just what I described above, but they stopped making them...they're in limited production now (if it's not over yet)...and they cost like $500.
mexicannnnnn
1:58 AM 15 October 2005
Josh, there is no timecode... only noisemap. Come on, you guy inveted it... I think.
yuri
2:35 AM 15 October 2005
lol I wouldnt call those good sollutions for people with existing setups. Anyway..
JohnDP1
9:24 AM 15 October 2005
midi clock is not the way to go, except if this midi clock has spring push/pull lever like on the Xone 3D, which nobody yet has tried btw...
What we need is a simple pitch bend function in Ableton Live, so the problem here is not on Serato's side...
What we need is a simple pitch bend function in Ableton Live, so the problem here is not on Serato's side...
Josh
5:10 AM 17 October 2005
Quote:
Josh, there is no timecode... only noisemap. Come on, you guy inveted it... I think.What do you mean? I'm a bit confused.
mexicannnnnn
5:27 AM 17 October 2005
Isn't a timecode just a digital time (ie 000 001 010 011.....) and a noisemap kind of like a grid with co-ordinates (ie
a00 a01 a10 a11
b00 b01 b10 b11
...
I think that would be an over simplified version of the noisemap on the CV's (compared to the "timecode" on lets say FS vinyls). I think the reasoning behind the faster latency is that if you read one co-ordinate from the noise map it will be faster then reading the absolute position timecode.
a00 a01 a10 a11
b00 b01 b10 b11
...
I think that would be an over simplified version of the noisemap on the CV's (compared to the "timecode" on lets say FS vinyls). I think the reasoning behind the faster latency is that if you read one co-ordinate from the noise map it will be faster then reading the absolute position timecode.
Josh
11:40 PM 17 October 2005
haha, I know how the noisemap works...
It's a pseudo-random bitstream which has the quality that any consecutive 20bits is a unique number within the stream, move one bit, and you have another position, etc etc.
My confusion was from the statement "Josh, there is no timecode... only noisemap."
Sure we don't control our system with timecode, but that doesn't mean we couldn't output timecode to slave up some other system.
(and ^that doesn't mean we will ;-) )
It's a pseudo-random bitstream which has the quality that any consecutive 20bits is a unique number within the stream, move one bit, and you have another position, etc etc.
My confusion was from the statement "Josh, there is no timecode... only noisemap."
Sure we don't control our system with timecode, but that doesn't mean we couldn't output timecode to slave up some other system.
(and ^that doesn't mean we will ;-) )
diego vega
12:59 AM 18 October 2005
DO IT PLEASE! or make Serato have a very accurate bpm which sends midi clock to Ableton so it autosyncs or something ... :D
mexicannnnnn
10:20 PM 18 October 2005
Quote:
haha, I know how the noisemap works...It's a pseudo-random bitstream which has the quality that any consecutive 20bits is a unique number within the stream, move one bit, and you have another position, etc etc.
My confusion was from the statement "Josh, there is no timecode... only noisemap."
Sure we don't control our system with timecode, but that doesn't mean we couldn't output timecode to slave up some other system.
(and ^that doesn't mean we will ;-) )
Opps.. sorry for the confusion. I was thinking you were talking about the input.
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