Yes. For what it is. Now let's see how fast they update it.

It's alright.

Not exactly exciting, but it works. Solid enough.

I've played midweek gigs with it on Itch at least twice a week since it went into public beta.

word. that's what I wanted to hear cuz im gonna use it tonight at my gig. I analyzed all the files including audio and video so hopefully nothing should go wrong. The waveforms seem so much smoother than when i use Video-SL even in offline mode. Can't wait to use it tonight.

yes, BUT...
you have said that you use other products as well.
products that make your sets equal to what mix emergency can do.

if you were to ONLY use Serato Video would you be happy with it?
or would you look for something that can do more?

if it's the same as vsl, then no.

Sure I would...because at the end of the day it's always about music and song selection and not the bells and whistles.

For instance, I have professional voiceovers that can send people to my twitter site, or Facebook page and they could get played throughout the night...same thing with promos. DO I think that the transitions make a huge difference...not really. They are nice but if I depend on transitions to get me a job...then I am in the wrong business.

However if you are asking does ME do more than SV...of course it does.

Guys, we've all seen DJ Techniq around the forums enough to know that he must be aware of ME and what it does.

If he's chosen to stick with Serato Video that's his choice.

I've got to say that when I use Itch, I'm VERY happy with SV. Because it lets me use video with Itch.

It's lacking in some areas, for sure, and there's no way I'd choose it over ME with SL personally, but it does what it claims to do.

not at all. not everything is about that.

just wondered if you would still be happy with SV if you did not have all that other stuff or if you would look for other software.
mostly just wondered if you would still be happy with it.

it's not exactly the same. there are adding video fx with serato video and also it doesn't use as much memory as VSL did as it's def more stable.

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I'm very aware of what ME can do I tried the demo and the transitions are better from a visual perspective..However ME never seemed to run as smooth as VSL did because there's more additions toward ME. But for something simple as just mixing video I really don't need ME and personally I'd rather move forward than stay behind as the latest version of Serato doesn't even work with ME.

I think that's a step behind depending on which point of view you look at.

Has anyone heard any news of ME ever working with a later version of serato? No and it prob won't ever. I'd much rather have a upgraded version of VSL/Serato Video than have to pay $200 for ME that only works with 2.3.3. That is just my take on the whole subject. I'm looking forward to the next update of Serato Video hopefully it will have something more to offer. I'm going to run SV tonight and see how it performs compared to VSL. I'll let you all know and keep posted.

I'd be happy if it recorded.
loaded vids on the fly for audio with no video

I like these things on ME but not sure if SV does this
twitter feed
live video feed
adding logos that can scroll, rotate etc
adding lines of text on screen

I'm not sure if SV does this as when I was on VSL it didn't and haven't touched an update so I have no clue if SV can do any of those things above.

Just to be clear, ME does dump all over Serato Video, in terms of features, flexibility, output quality and demands on system resources.

I was just saying I assumed you knew that and had chosen to stick to SV for whatever reason.

I don't think I have ever heard anybody else make this statement.

I'd use SV or test it out if it worked with 2.2 as most people who gig out are hesitant to update to the latest version of anything until all the bugs are worked out.
I feel they never got the bugs in 2.3 fixed so I damn sure won't go to 2.4 yet until more people say it works fine.

I think it's the opposite. ME runs more smooth even with the additions that it has. But I still have video sl 1.2 installed on my system, so I'm not sure if any updates past that worked better.
only time it ran sluggish was when I had VSL and ME running at the same time, which I'm sure many of us did at one point.

It can do the above. I don't really need twitter feed I don't even use twitter as for live video feed that's what ustream is for. All those things that ME can do is probably great but I'd rather have the plugin not working as hard on the laptop so I just chose to use Serato Video. When I demo'd ME it didn't exactly run smooth

Then you set it up wrong because ME is far less demanding on a system.

Also you are not understanding what the live video feed feature is, apparently.

Seriously? SMH.

No I don't I never purchased ME. Maybe I will demo it sometime and check it out. For right now I just need something simple. However the differences of the two is ME does alot of the work for you..random transitioning gotta admit that's pretty dope and prob one of the main features I wish SV had.

Damn here we go again... Not that I'm the voice of the people, but two quick questions before this turns into another ME VS SV... 1st one... Do you really need to have the latest product out on the market.. I mean just cause Rane dropped 2 new mixer.. is it necessary to have one of the other.. And two.. IF ME NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER worked on any update pas 2.3.3 do you think that will slow or stop any further development of ME.. No it wouldn't...and as a side note. With all the disappointment of updates pass (I'll say 2.0) most people weather using ME or SV are spooked to update anyway... and other then the ability to use SV with itch.. what new and wonderful things does 2.4 have to offer.

not going to turn this into where it's headed.

but to answer the op's original question...no i am not happy with SV.

it's been a long wait with no added features (itch support doesn't count in my book) and a ton of bugs unresolved. it's hard to have a positive outlook when the development roadmap is unpublished and we have no idea what features to expect in the future.

features to expect are already implemented in other software that's currently on the market.

Putting it bluntly: "Serato Video" to me so far has been nothing but a nuisance.

It's created significant problems and given absolutely nothing in return (so far).

just waiting for que to jump in and tell us how dope sv is...

I think he might be seeing the ways of ME. I know he was poking around the Inklen forms asking question

Damn..not good to hear. I guess i'll see how it goes tonight. I didn't want this thread to turn into a debate over SV vs. ME. I just prefer to use SV mainly cause it was FREE and I didn't have to fork over $200 which I'm sure is worth it. Who knows only way to find out is to try ME with 2.3.3. Thanks for all the responses so far.

you got a free code?

probably bought vsl back in the day like most of us.

Should've bought ME back in the day like most of us.

wasn't me on there forum. but I wanted more from it.

My answer for the original question ... NOT HAPPY WITH SV :( ... Very happy with ME ;) (I have the Rane Sixty 2 and I have to downgrade to Scratchlive 2.3 to make it work using a SL1 (This really really sucks)

Wasn't thrilled to have to upgrade to use SV on the 62. I tried a demo of ME and didn't get to far into the effects and gadgets so I can't give an honest opinion. I do know that SV needs some updates. Last night was the first gig using it out side of my residence on a non-Rane mixer and I had to shut it down and use the older version of SSL with VSL cause the damn SV output window wasn't adjustable. Couldn't move it to the venue monitors. I've since found the work around today on it, but in the heat of the moment that was pretty nerve wrecking.

I used Serato Video at my gig..no crashes at all. I like how you can attach a video file, picture, and even txt scrolling all at the same time. Video-SL was never capable to do this. However there is lag in the txt scrolling a slight bit from what i noticed on the main output. But I must admit Serato Video is very stable compared to VSL and there is a few more additions toward Serato Video. So yes it is different than VSL. They aren't the same plugin like everyone else is claiming the two are very different in layout, effects, and even the transitions are better.

It was pretty dope to play audio and have our flyer on the big screen along with a attached mp4 in the background and txt scrolling all at the same time. VSL never did this.

I currently use the 62 with an SL2 box and actually prefer it now. The mixer is fully midi mappable, so I can map Serato and ME.

But why use the 62 and SL2 when scratchlive is built in the 62 already?

Because I prefer to use ME and not SV. Until SV catches up, it's worth it for me to do it this way. Also the mixer isn't fully opened up for midi yet. I could wait or just do it this way and run everything how I want too.

^i've seen that way and it works flawlessly with ME.

Gotcha so it's a solution to use both ME with the latest version of scratchlive because you're still using the SL2?

No, you still have to use SL 2.3.3. This version recognizes the 62 as simply a midi controller that you can map to whatever you want.

Got it! thanks for clarifying

You can use whatever scratch live version your box recognizes and also has midi. You have to load up 2.4 to get the drivers. There will be a video on video report soon on how to do it. It's simple and pretty straight forward. But a video explanation is always good.

i love ME but honestly this work around is not worth me using all this extra crap i do own an sl1, a 57,and a 62, so honestly i will only use my 57 for video and my 62 for non video gigs, the sl1 for home use all my stuff has their own decks and flight cases so its ready to go. it would b nice if everything would work toghether but at the end of the day who pays serato? the software is free and as far as i can tell if no one forks out the money serato video will remain in its mediocre state.

Not happy with serato video no delay compensation!! Fail. And no media bank! Fail (and no i dont have the time to attach adds to all my audio for each different night!) video output quality still wank compared to me. And still no video gui option to have previews next to deck/cuepoints. Fail! No randum transition! Fail!

And shed loads other stuff lol.

So no not happy would say more put up with it.

I have to disagree with you on this. The only reason is doesn't run on the new coding is cause Serato changed it without any heads up. So, just like before when Inklen first started: Some time with the coding = a break in the coding. Plus, ME uses less sources than SV (well, in the previous cases) so maybe your MBP isn't setup right. Cause yours is newer than mine and mine is takes ME, SSL, Twitter feed, OSC and keeps it smooth all night.

Thinks that ME has that made me switch a few years ago:

Random Transitions
Easier text/image/quartz overlay mapping
Better effects/transitions
Presets for effects/transitions/text
Smoother CPU strain
Auto-transition (in case you forgot to, when you stop the previous played song)
Visual media bank with auto load (for audio files)
Excellent MIDI setup/application
Ability to move around preview screens & other ME gui to get better screen real estate
And the fact you can switch from SSL mode to ME mode if you just want some dope visuals only

That was just the beginning. There was more than that, that got me to switch.
And now with:

Beat synced effects/transitions
Customizable effects/ transitions
Webcam/Video feed overlay
Better quartz overlay
Video mapping
(And even MORE, but this is getting tedious)

ME is crazy smooth.

But getting back to the DJ aspect. ME allows me to concentrate on the actual part of our jobs --> DJ'ing, without getting too involved in the video portion. Granted, some jocks like WAY too much with their ME setup. And those guys get too involved in looking at screens all night instead of the people/party. If I setup and load up everything right like I want, all I have to do is play and make sure nothing is F-ing up here and there. Computer to the side, crowd right in front. It's a Poppy party with SSL & ME making my vibes come together just right ;)

P.S. - I should add that I do have and played with the SV. It stands the same as VSL with a couple things moved around as of right now. A bit more stable, maybe, but mostly the same as before with Itch integration

And ME's ability to record is a deal sealer in my book (going on a few years now)

I would like to know what software is free? You pay for SL, SV, and ME. Nothing is free.

i bet ME users would be willing to pay a one-time fee to allow use of ME on newer versions of SSL.

I would pay $200 to use ME with new versions of SL. $100 can go to Serato, and $100 to ME. Everyone's happy.

They should just turn SV into "Serato Video Intro", and turn ME into "Serato Video Pro featuring Mix Emergency."

i'd like to agree nothing is free but you pay for the sound card and the video plugin not the software you just need a email account and password to download it. if you ever paid for ssl id like to sell you a shhht load of copys cause ive never seen any one pay for ssl. only for hardware and plugin, and i dont think i had to pay for the plugin and was still able to use ME. now i had to buy SV untill Me works again.

yes, but the software does not work fully without the hardware, so you're actually are paying for the software, by way of purchasing the hardware. The hardware simply acts as a key to unlocking the software.

correct my only point is serato employees need to be fed too dont expect to feed rane, serato and serato video with a one time purchase and expect all the updates to b perfect. i am in this situation waiting patiently for me to catch the magic code, but at the same time i dont mind paying serato video for future development.and the hardware has worked with all of seratos updates even the buggy ones. and i think me is talking about charging for future updates. which again if they do ill probably pay for the update anyway.

NO I am not happy with SV.

As a new user of ME, I say yes.

+1



+1

I don't expect every update to be perfect, but SV was hardly an update at all. The only added feature is Itch compatibility. And the competition (ME) is lightyears ahead of SV in every single aspect.

i c how wer are here all giving our opinion on how ME is by far the best, and as a supporter of both id like to hear what serato video has to say? i already got a response from ME that serato and ME are in negotiation but that was since march. so i would like to call serato to the stand and tell us what is going to b done. eighther make serato video same or better than M.E or may b buy out M.E bottom line. "Vdj's want to move forward not backwards".
i feel like this was a step back but hopefully the come back with a bang, cause ive spend a lot of money on this that i do expect to have my equipment to do what ive seen it do.

+1,000,000 (this was supposed to go here)

Whoops, damn no edit feature.

of course that was always the plan....sorta. i'm sure their goal is to make it the best that it can be. it just so happened they slipped and fell behind....waaaay behind.

but at the way things are going, i wouldn't hold my breath.

so yeah, they're planning on getting there. they just can't say when. it could be next year, it could be 3 years....or even 10.

it would be nice to have some professional customer service to let us know the stats, cause i will not wait years. obviously that's why i chose "me" to begin with. but i still believe Serato can do it, if not let "me" take care of that side, and "don't" throw monkey wrenches at it.

well, i'll give serato benefit of the doubt for now....since they stated they re-wrote the code to make updates easier and faster. so we'll see how fast these next TWO updates will come and i'll draw judgement from those.

but previously, at the rate they were working....that's how ME took the lead.

and again, inklen only has to code and debug for mac. serato has to code and debug for windows AND mac.

true but i really don't care for windows no offense but if you spend a lot of money on promo pools gear and serato why not just buy a mac no offense to widows users tho

Oh and I used Serato Video for the first time in one of my venues last night and the vidz do look like SHIT.

With that said, I won't be doing any video sets with my 62 unless I'm forced to (like the prom I'm doing this Saturday)

Also I have a lot of tracks I play with no video and with ME I didn't have to worry about this but last night was a pain in the ass trying to attach video to mp3s and when I did it, it would freeze the screen and Serato for a few seconds. Fuck that.

yea, fuck that.
i don't even have time for that.

You can attach a flyer and txt and have it scroll whether it's audio or video and it stays on the main output with serato video.

You just have to make sure the setting is for the main output whether it's a flyer, txt or a mp4. I have had a music video, attached visual, flyer and txt scrolling all at the same time...when you decide to mix audio everything is still attached except the music video. That's what I meant when I said it's different from VSL there's more additions toward it you just need to know how to work them.

You just have to make sure the picture, logo, flyer or txt is set to "ON" for the main output "middle" you must not of used the plugin to it's full potential.

Why do we HAVE to put a stupid still flyer up and have it cover are videos?
also you try writting abit of text the quality goes shocking if you type alot.

Media bank is needed!!!

And better output quality!!

My shit looked like fuckin youtube rips last night.

VERY unprofessional SERATO!

I haven't chimed in yet and I hate to create an echo chamber here.... but seriously... absolutely NO word about ME support still? If your going to squash it, when are the updates coming? Ugh... Its getting beyond frustrating.

yeah but you're missing the big picture here guys. It works with itch now so all is well

ha

couldnt have said it better myself! lol

but seriously, the output quality is doodoo. i was excited about using SV with my Itch controller, but i agree, using SV is definately a step back from when i use ME.

I would like to know what you guy's are using for your output device.

cos video on the screen's I been doing are not shitty looking.

there clean looking.

and i'm using mini display port to vga to Pc to TV to composite and it is clear. even when I make my dvd video mix dvd's there clear.

there is an extremely noticeable difference in output quality between SV and ME. i'm not sure if it is recognizable on a composite output. But on an s-video, component or hdmi output you can clearly see that ME's output looks tremendously better than SV. this problem has carried over since Video-SL.

i still say eighther make serato vidio better than mix e or let mi e serve their clients. on the other hand i used serato video with my 62 moved some settings around used the high quality option moved the gauge to 2gb and i had desent quality almost as mix e, using a macbook pro i7, with a g raid external drive running @ 72oo rpm wich was recommended to me by apple when i first started doing video it is made specially for video.

oops I mean component. But also I wasnt refering to me. Just sv.

I know mix is better.

bro it doesn't cover the video i have it scroll across the video. the effect is actually pretty nice when you have the speed on slow for scrolling :)

Me either my videos look real fresh. I have my output set on high and 2gb using hdmi on an HDTV. Somehow I don't think alot of you know how to use Serato Video. Any questions let me know I'll help.

That's all cool and gravy for your bedroom but most club venues are not set up HD and require some of us to convert the signal to analog (composite) that's when things get shitty but regardless if we are converting or not the fact of the matter is SV looks a lot worse than ME.

I hear yah. I dj at a bar in a small town it's not even really a club but the vibe is like a club when were dj'ing but im happy they atleast have a HDTV or else I'd have to convert from analog to digital which is a pain.

Yeah - SV isn't ready for prime time. I was pumped about the video coming out for ITCH but its just not ready for outside use yet.

I am even using the 1.0.1 beta because the first release wouldn't even go full screen for whatever reason - an issue macs and pc's both encountered.

...so I'm still stuck with doing double work with prepping and adding music in both VDJ and ITCH.

VDJ's sound output isn't as polished as ITCH but the video plug ins / media banks / video output quality / and codec rendering is MUCH better.

wish it was tho - having to move between two software platforms is a pain.

smh (<--- that's all i have to say. lol)

Im talking about club's.

im not talking about bedroom dj i'm far from that. ask

R-Tistic- or

DJ Ace

They seen my video's live.

Que I wasn't talking to you. Half the time I can't even understand you.

What do you mean by that steve?

Steve is probably busy, so I will try and explain.

"Que I wasn't talking to you" = His comment was not directed at or towards Que.

"Half the time I can't even understand you" = Steve Dub cannot comprehend what Que is saying 50% of the time. Because Steve lives on the other side of county line and they both speak in different accents of the english language. So Steve only recognizes 50% of what Que is saying.

Ha ha ha, i don't find that to be humorous.

Lol! I did

Me too.

HaHaHa...

JDfoKing

I'm sorry :(

Naw it's not funny it hilarious

No cant get the output window to work :-(

It was a bug where the output window kept disappearing..there a fix in this beta --> serato.com

Thanks very much that has worked another mate told me to try it and it seems to work now :-)

I did have the problem that the video chanel fader were down so didnt have video on the main screen so it seem they are default all the way down ?

That is right with video sl they stayed up but on the serato video they are defaulted to down this is going to get annoying lol

No. you must of not assigned the faders to midi crossfade. When the channel fader is down you will see no video on the main output..when you move the channel fader up you should see the video coming into full color when faders all the way up.

The only thing i have midi assigned is the cross fader
But on the ones on the software all allways fully up on my video sl but on the serato video everytime i shut it down they go to the down position with no output video so i put them right up thinking they should stay there but shut serato down open it back up and they are back down again the last thing i want to do is keep having to put the back to the top again :-(

okay so why not assign the channel faders? I have all 3 assigned - crossfader, and both channel faders...this way audio/video are working at the same time.

NOT HAPPY tonight serato crashed when i pressed the font button in the text! Bang boom.crash!!!! Grrrrr will post crash report in help area!!!

I hate new video Sl.......

Word Nick. Its like switching to eating happy meals after weekly servings of steak.

I miss ME.

well im lucky i have installed 2.4.1 as the second programe so i still have my 2.3.3 and video sl to use and im pretty sure you will be able to use ME doing it like that aswell :-)

I have done that but if you use the channel fader it dims the video and i dont want that i want the to be all the way up all the time :-) not everytime i use serato video having to turn them up on my video sl they just stay there :-)

Im not happy with the text side of it because i was allways able to set different text to each screen and now i cannt and also i used to be able to change the colour of the text with the twist knob cant do anything like that now or i could choose if i wanted that knob to change size etc
Feel like i have a worse programe now :-(

This time serato took a leap backwards hopefully they realized that I still don't see them commenting on this issue or how they are going to make things better.

If you guys step back and look at this differently you might understand:

Serato Video is a 1.x version piece of software. Although Video SL was 1.2x and lack a lot of bells people wanted it was a pretty hardened plug in.

A major rewrite to make it work with both platforms means you are back at square one and honestly you get to take the lumps as with any young software.

I for one would not even consider using this at my primary gig, it's just too green.

+100

Yes it is but so far I'm not really doing any fancy stuff while playing......I'm just blending mixing from video to video non of those fx stuff for video either.......I hope ME works in the near future.

So you are using a 62 or 61?

i615.photobucket.com

LOL!!

Haha! M. Bezzle... I want to play too:

cdn.memegenerator.net

LMFAO!

Again I'm not happy with serato video, There is no support in the beta area it is a ghoats thread no serato staff can be arsed!!!! Totally shocking looks like there back to there video sl days!!! Serato Video is a 100% total fail!! Cheap ass software with no support!

They really have to 100% bring ME back!

I tell ya if traktor gets video correct serato will loose aalot of djs.

Please bring ME back!

I would never ditch SSL and ME for Traktor as it stands, comments like that and non one will take you seriously.

Some of you guys come off as little kids having tantrums on the middle of a store. "NO MOM I WANT IT NOW" but hopefully you learned that is not how the world runs back then. These forums are great for getting help from other DJs using similar eq. I don't and can't expect for Serato to encounter every situation, hell even with the possibly BILLIONS of users Microsoft has, they still can't factor in every variable.

Part of being proactive and nurturing a product you like is offering constructive feedback for developers and not threaten them every product cycle. If it is that bad, you really need to just move on.

Well why you talking about me that dont even work past 2.3.3 so i am talking about the SV and it is a fail and yes if traktor do video and it has most the things ME has and runs great ya i should say alot of ppl would switch just like loads peeps already are (for none video use). i am a die hard serato fan user but this video business has really made me change my view of serato, SV is totaly crap yes i can just use ME and 2.3.3 But i am giving serato the time to test and use SV in the hope they make it better BUT OH NO it's crap and the beta area is dead. Just like the old video-sl days. That area needs all the support from the serato team and dev team if they want to make sv more stable and better in each release!

As for moving on well we can't the only pro product is SSL AND ME. but serato just noshed that up(past 2.3.3) so they have made the serato name bad in my eyes. Constructive feedback thats what we are doing if its crap tell them, So what is the point in posting WOW SERATO VIDEO IS MEGA THE BEST SO GLAD YOU CUT ME OFF AND SO GLAD IT HAS NO FEATURES AND SO AMAZING HOW IT IS USELESS AND LOVE IT WHEN IT CRASHES AND DESTROYS YOUR DATABASEV2 FILE AND LOVE LOVE IT EVEN MORE WHEN THE SUPPORT IS NOT THERE WOW MEGA THANKS SERATOS!

lol no i don't think so i ain't shouting that bulshit i am letting them know how i feel and how itis I'm sure the tittle of this thread is ''Are You Happy With Serato Video'' ????

When i am happy it will be positive comments. When i am not happy it will be negative comments. When i am pissed off (prob due to crash) i will go off on one comments LOL.

But thanks anyway for the time you put in your post!

Lol!

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Lmfao!!

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There's also vdj and mixvibes...

Good things come for those who wait.

I agree with that. However there are some bugs that I've came across using some transition fx with serato video. For example I tried using the "scratch" transition and when i enabled it it would flash to the other "video screen" and the crossfader wasn't even crossfaded nore on the other channel..however it didn't do this everytime. It was kinda just random. So far that's the only thing I came across since the update with the output screen disappearing.

Its been like 5 years since a valid update so im expectin great not good

+1 and they had two hole years to work on SV!!! TWO HOLE YEARS!

I mean the new beta aint even got any new features! They need to add at least ONE new feature with every update! Even at that pace they will be upto where ME is now in 10years lol

You all know vsl looked like shit with scratchlive so we rewrote it from the ground up and TADA now it looks like shit on itch too!!!

Lol

They had stated the only fix for the beta was the disappearing output screen which was resolved asap because it was a huge problem. I'd say a month or two before an official update becomes available but who knows cuz VSL never got an update for yrs however VSL was solid. I have to admit that i like the layout better with Serato Video and there's more library room to search for tracks while using serato video. VSL didn't have much room at all.

so...do you bring the crowd into the booth to show them these wonderful updates?

Vsl solid hahahahah good story bro guess you never used ME? ya that better was for video output screen that is still buggy and still in beta so they could of added a new feature at the same time. Or at least fixed some more bugs.

@LJ Woolsey I have to say and been using vsl 3 years it is stable.

I know a bar in inglewood ca called the game sports bar that does video mixing every night using vsl for 1 year and my friend that I turned on to vsl over 2 years ago still use it to this day.

They will tell you its stable also.

Me might be better but there like vsl has brought them so much money they dont care about me feature.

Well ok for blind ppl vsl rocks and sv! But for ppl with eyes its all about ME as it has better quality video output and delay compensation so you can make sure the lip sync is perfect on your screens also uses less cpu ect. Sure for most vsl and sv is great and for ppl just getting into the video game but once you use ME and see the quality of the product its amazing. Then you got all that ME can do.
Sure if ppl don't know aboit ME andwhat it does they don't know what there missing.

I'm glad and happy for the ppl that are 100% happy with vsl and sv good for them.
But i want sv tobe alot better and more pro.

you know vsl is shit when even serato gave up on it over two years ago lol.

Do we really need another petition for ME to work again?.......Coz I'm signing in.

yes

I got it running on my pc but it's still no where near as good as vdj. Sure it has it's good points but not good enough.........

will a new petition work this time?

Not a peep from Serato through any of this... Is there an official response as to whats going on with future ME support?

Really This Me stuff is like a X that just wont go away.

Even tho she know its not go happen.

Were done. what part of NO she dont understand the N or The O

serato did there part.

Now let Inklen Do His.

Either make his own or pay serato what they want plain as that.

^^ Blurg glorb skoih rpoid sdkdn

Makes about as much coherent sense....

did serato ever state FOR THE RECORD (post on the forums or anywhere) that it was about money?

^they don't have to, silence is the same thing.

it's always about money.

everything is about money.

^and power

I blame the Bilderburgs.

I cll BS its the Anunnaki

I had to look that up on Wikipedia.. nice time sink.