LOL.

sure, i will cancel my subscription, a year ago.

+1

whats 8th wonder.

a dream

Hey, Holden Caufield, tell 8th Wonder to fix their downloader!

There you go, I just told everyone I know who uses 8th Wonder.

you posted on the VDJ forum too?

LOL

When you are ready to step up to a real service, check out www.smashvision.com or www.vj-pro.com

Where and when did the smashvision website come from?

Its a portal to vj pro, just with some more information regarding what we do at Smashvision etc

Yeah i see that now. I need to read more before I make a comment... Duh Me

All good! In regards to 8th wonder, you get what you pay for. Bottom line. The last time I used 8th wonder (over a year and a half ago), I had a crash from a bad file that I downed from them. That was the final straw before I realized that I will never put my trust in a service with such variations of encoding, random qualities and poor customer service.

let's just say 8th was a good site for videos...what would be the purpose in stifling dloads?
and with the dlaoder could it be due to the browser you are using? firefix comes out with updates and a ricockulous pace, maybe they can not keep up.

and let's say everything is true, that you are correct.
you are paying about $10 a month. you get what you pay for.

lmao...

Someone needs to tell them.

As a business owner I couldn't see myself spending money on getting a programmer to make a new downloader for my website that only has 10 subscribers.

^there's 10?

hahahahahaha 8th wont listen hahahahahahahahahahaha the dont care if thier downloader works....HELL THEY DONT EVEN CARE ABOUT QUALITY CONTROL OF THIER PRODUCT....
that being said you should be abale to keep up with thier d/l cause only maybe 1 or 2 of them are useable a week ..if that

i woulda tried that before starting a thread here.

i think was signed up with 8th for a month before i dropped them and went with Smash & Xtenda

Not that it really matters (and I see the original poster has stayed true to his usual pattern of never bothering to acknowledge replies), but what is so hard about downloading individual files anyway?

Or is 8th actually limiting users to one download at a time? Can't start another download before the first one finishes?

DJ Mark,

Did you actually read the fucking replies?

I'm a professional. I work for a living running a production company, I don't sit on the forums all day and make retarded replies to other people's posts.

I don't respond to wise assed replies.

Point out one other response besides Jack Millz that was worth even acknowledging.

Jack most likely knows that I was a smash Vidz subscriber for several years. I just wasn't getting content that I personally needed. Period. So I dropped it.

You don't know shit about me, my business, what I do, or who for. I'm not here to gain your approval. I could give a flying fuck what anyone thinks. Anyone who knows me knows that.

There is nothing hard about downloading individual files. However, If I want to stay up to date with current releases, I don't want to sit there for 8 hours downloading tracks. I like to cue up a pile and roll.

I've got better things to do.

And as for quality of videos, they are not always the best, but I've also downloaded tracks that crashed Serato from Smashvids. They usually fix them, but they're not immune.

I actually am checking out VJ-Pro.

If anyone else posts an intelligent reply, I'd be happy to respond.

Most of the replies you received were actually rather light-hearted attempts to suggest that perhaps 8th Wonder isn't a great choice.

Nobody actually called a you rude dickhead who doesn't care about the quality or legality of his sources, did they?

Um... not until your post!... lol

So it would appear.

yes.. pretty funny ones there.

You realize you started this thread with an all CAPS subject line and in a non-professional manner bitched about 8thwonder and just being angry, cursing, etc. Did you really expect professional responses from that?

jus sayin...

Hey man, I hope no one on the forums takes any of my jokes seriously...Im a pretty mellow cat, Im just trying to explain the pros and cons of using a sub-par (and illegal) service called 8th wonder. I hope I cleared it up, and I hope you become a vj-pro/smashvision subscriber in the future :)

you should really check out VJ-Pro's batch download feature... its the best thing since sliced bread

Anyone who posts the fact that they use 8th wonder will not be taken seriously by default. Its just the way it is.

Blastvids FTW!

^ They beat "ALL" of them...cuz it's FREE :) but you have to be a pro VJ to get on their email list ;)

...really Techniq..... smh

cdn-images.hollywood.com

wow

Were you born retarded Techniq? It's so obvious you're a pro dj......

Everyones entitled to their own opinion, regardless if its a good one or a bad one...lol

Thanks :) I was just being sarcastic.... some ppl don't know how to take a joke but if you don't know what BlastVids is. It's an email blast that comes out weekly and they are some of the top video editors that give out their video edits for FREE as a promotional source. Alot of good material come from these emails. Including Acapella Out video edits, dirty/clean, transitions, segways, and overall quality.

Tecniq,

Did you know many of the files being hosted for free with them are encoded wrong in some shape, way or form...jus sayin

Hey Millz, you a Buddhist? I always get a sense of inner peace when I see your avatar :)

That is what I call the "danked out chinaman" pose ;)

I was not aware of this. The quality overall seems to be fine..and looks and sounds no different than any other vj pool. But thanks for the heads up.

Hey Millz,

Ive been djin for 11yrs and just started doin video last year... so im tryin to learn as much as i can about the ins and outs of professional vjing. ive been spinning videos the same as i do audio, but ive seen alot of you video veterans' mixes and am very impressed. i want to bump my skills to the next level.
as far as proper encoding, can you shed some light on what proper and improper encoding is in general? and the difference in perfomance when using improperly encoded video files? bcuz i keep seeing this come up in the video discussions. like dj tecniq said, to the average person, improperly encoded files look and play just fine and how can someone who has no in depth knowledge be able to tell what is and isnt properly encoded.

thanx.

Fixed........., dont trip im just bustin balls
I tried 8th wonder for a month.......by far the worst quality vid pool that i know of ....
I would like to know.... What on earth does 8th wonder have that smashvids doesnt...there just cheaper right?..

I will chime in on this. 8thwonder actually has alot of "rare" edm video edits that smashvids doesn't. They also have alot of acapella in & out video edits unlike SV. Some of there videos from 8th are garbage quality but not all. I've found that M Class, John Cha, DJ 818, Will Styles are all good quality edits..Some may disagree but if your a subscriber of 8thwonder you really have to filter through the garbage files in order to find the good stuff. It is a good "cheap" solution for a VJ just getting started but if you want to take it further then I do suggest either SmashVids or Xtendamix cuz they are always putting out quality edits.

Guys just like you can find white label records from some shops and not others. There are many custom edits that aren't approved by the powers that be (ie record labels) so you won't see them on totally legit sites.

Of course with custom bootleg edits there really isn't much quality control. You don't know what their source is or if they are using some $9.99 mp4 encoder they saw a pop up ad for on the net.

Yeah there are guys who take pride in their stuff, but 90% of the remixes out there are hot garbage or cater to a demographic I will never play to.

I will chime in on this too. 8thwonder actually has nothing i can not make myself or find elsewhere like rarecrates. You'd be crazy to disagree if you're a subscriber of 8thwonder that you really have to filter through the garbage files in order to find any good stuff. It is a "cheap" solution for a VJ just getting started but if you want to take it further then I highly suggest either SmashVids or Xtendamix cuz they are always putting out quality edits.


while i DO support bitching LOUDLY about 8th wonder, the time has passed for me.
i gave up on them long ago. if people can get them turned around, that's great, but i do not see it from a 10-12$ pool. looks like an uphill battle.
everyone from the owners, to the devs, to the editors have to increase their game.
seems like many of the people are complacent.

hahahahahahaha im gettiin there right now wake and ----

i used to defend them, sorta. it had and served it's purpose for me. but i found myself using them less and less. "maybe i will get 2-3 videos this month. for 9.99 it paid for itself" was my thinking. once i dropped the bad habit and extinguished it like a smoke i have never looked back. thrown away like yesterday's jam. don't miss it at all

BUT from what i hear it is a good place to get some of my friend Frenzy'z edits.

better check the a/r on those betcha most are f'd up lol

and are blenx discontinued now that smash made the move?

nope blend are alive and well.

exactly why i support 8thwonder ;) Frenzy is a "Monster" and I'm a huge fan of breakbeat. And they also have the Black Cards remix of Ass Back Home by Gym Class hero's which happens to be the best electro remix out...searched xtenda and smashvidz...none of em had a video edit. And yes you do have to search thru all the garbage files to get the good shit. 8th blows period but there editors are making video edits of this dude's stuff then they are ok in my book! --> soundcloud.com

i have known Frenzy for many years.
i remember when i first met him. he came into my record store, a little raver fiending for breakbeat records. funny thing is, his real name is actually Raven.
gah...every time i see him at his residence he tries to get me to scratch, so i avoid the booth now.

he will be glad to hear he has fans.

there's actually a lot of editors here that you may see on sites. it's weird.
supa skip, 818, yona, rowshay, kommotion, beatnox, styles and complete to name a few off the top of my head.

Kommotion and Beatnox are on RareCrates.com

Believe me pretty much all my dj friends here in Florida dig all his stuff. He makes some of the sickest rerubs I've heard. Icey plays some of his stuff as well as other top breaks producers. He merges electro house with breaks...I dig house but I grew up on breaks and truthfully everything always sounds better with a breakbeat :)

One thing I truly hate about living in Tampa Bay since 96 is the shite they call breakbeat around here.

^dance too much booty in the pants

can u give an example?

Hmmm DJ Icey, Huda Hudia, Santana, Baby Anne, Tony Faline, Jackal & Hyde, Rick West...etc etc

I will say the genre UK Breaks is quite alright though.

Those are all great artists!

Yeah every time I hear a FL breakbeat I want to kick a speaker.. This is only rivaled by jungle in my genres of music I hate ;)

ditto.
theres were a few out of the US that were ok...Even Icey's tree was ok (boots)
but TCR, Burrito,BedrockBreaks,Botchit & Scarper, Emotiff, finger lickin, KingSize, Thrust, Lot49, Punkz.... I bought everything that dropped on them...

here some of my shows from IpartyRadio back in the day: www.house-mixes.com

but as far as 8th wonder goes... I gave them a fair shake for a while.
but the juice was never worth the squeeze with them for me.
a few choice editors, and a lot of crap to sift through.
never mind questionable encoding on the video side, questionable AUDIO too!

Which one of their editors was it who always had an extra or missing beat in his intros? If you can't count 8 bars you should probably just throw in the towel and get another job...

It would have been funny if I hadn't wasted time and disk space to see his disasters...

i think it was some name like "Dj Cutt".

That's it, LOL.

That was noticeable, but I think its kind of an entry level service for editors to start off with and learn. Famous for off key mash ups also, no second helping of that at any cost thanks.

lmfao it was def him..what's so funny is for alot of his edits when you preview them they have "no audio" lol..i think they are trying to tell him something. i had a video edit of his for internet friends my god...it was horrible..."trashed" it

co sign! these artist are what put FL on the map. Icey especially considering he started it. And Jackal & Hyde dude how can u NOT like them? Alot of those FL artist are more nu skool now with their production. Icey, Frenzy, DJ Hero, Sharaz...you really are missing out cuz there shit is slammin right now.

^ Tell me that ain't tha shit!! Just WOW! > soundcloud.com

Jackal & Hyde!! Remember Freaks?? Nasty!

WHATS UP ALL..........I WAS SAYING THE SAME THING A YEAR AGO.....WHY DOESNT THE DOWNLOADER WORK..BUT COME TO FIND OUT THEY SEND THRU EMAIL..AND U DOWNLOAD IT FROM THERE...HOPE THIS HELPS...

Good work reading the whole thread there.

haha i have the vinyl.

Thats all I mixed backed then ha, I had like two backup cds.

did they do a song called or something like "search and destroy"?

seek & destroy -> Watchwww.youtube.com

there biggest was sound of underground but featured J-Break not Hyde & Scott Weisner aka Jackal --> Watchwww.youtube.com

this one was one of their later releases. have this on vinyl -> Watchwww.youtube.com

ah ok, thanks.
the reason i asked about 'seek and destroy";
i had to pick up that Scott guy from the airport or hotel and i was watching DJ Flare's Magnifrying Glass dvd and he said that was one of his tracks playing.

oh wtf?!? i just read that J&H's wiki...that Scott guy was in Dynamix II?!?
i have so many of their records. Dymanix II and The X-Men made some of my favorite records (next to Kraftwerk).
fk fk fuuuck, i feel like such an asshole. i had nooo clue and the guy was sitting right next to me. i had to flipping drive him around and had no idea. farge!!

i have met many famous people and mostly i do not give a damn who they are, cuz they are just people, but that is one of the few that i would have liked to have told "I really like your music, thank you."

i miss having new blenx-in's. been a while now .......

btw - slice, i'm ready to jam with you and frenzy. see what's up and let me know if we should start planning since my girl wants to go up to TN anyway this year

I would looooove some more on the regular (Blenx out for me!!)

they work like HOT FIAAAAAAAYA!

yeah. i love the blenx-in for live remixing/mashing

Not many songs start with the hook homies. We make some customs ones but some don't sound right. Don't talk likes its gone anywhere haha.

I tell ya 8th wonder has poor customer service and i hope they reading this !!!!

They don't care.

Bottom feeders.

Enough Said/Just Telling It Like It Is.

Agree 100% These guys are the BEST!!!!