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NEW... Pioneer DJM 850 Mixer

DjWoody 5:42 PM - 23 February, 2012
DjWoody 5:55 PM - 23 February, 2012
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Pioneer Bring the Perfect Mix of Music and Functionality with New DJ Mixer

DJM-850 Loaded with Advanced Features
and Effects for Creative Mixing Capabilities

Pioneer Electronics (USA) Inc. Professional Sound and Visual Division continues to make advancements in its lineup of DJ products with the launch of its new DJM-850 performance DJ mixer that brings more functionality for the growing number of DJs that utilize today's popular DJ software. Inheriting many of the same technologies, reliability and operability of Pioneer's industry standard DJM-900nexus mixer, the DJM-850 (video demonstration) also features a built-in high-performance USB sound card, various functions for laptop-connected DJ performances, and the industry's first1 BEAT COLOR FX function, which changes effects by linking the audio input of each channel.

"Pioneer has included innovative new features in the DJM-850 that expand DJs' creative capabilities when they're using their favorite DJ software. We see the growing use of DJ software as a great opportunity to bring professional level quality and features to this space," said David Arevalo, senior marketing manager, Professional Sound and Visual Division for Pioneer Electronics (USA) Inc.


Download the DJM-850 product sheet
Variety of Effects

The DJM-850 follows Pioneer's traditional mixer layout, featuring a variety of advanced sound effects that provide DJs with virtually limitless possibilities when mixing their music. Pioneer includes a new BEAT COLOR FX function, which changes effects by linking the audio input from each channel.

Sound Color FX – The Sound Color FX offers four types of effects (Filter, Crush, Noise and Gate) that can be linked to the input sound of each channel.

Beat Color FX – Users can quickly change between the new Beat Color FX and Sound Color FX to suit each tune for further remixing and sound capabilities. By activating the Beat Color FX, users are able to manipulate the Sound Color FX and Beat Effect simultaneously, resulting in more creative effects that complement the beat of the music.

Beat Effect – The Beat Effect function presents 13 different types of effects (Delay, Echo, Up Echo , Spiral, Reverb, Trans, Filter, Flanger, Phaser, Robot, Slip Roll, Roll, and Reverse Roll) that can be combined to produce up to 100 other original effects.

Sound Quality

The design of the DJM-850 combines broad functionality and high quality components to achieve great sound quality:

24bit/96kHz Built-in USB Sound Card – An integrated high performance USB sound card enables up to four inputs/outputs2 simultaneously with no deterioration in sound quality.

The sound card supports three different sampling rates (96kHz/48kHz/44.1kHz) and the ASIO/Core Audio standards that can also be used for music recording and production.
The USB port on top of the mixer provides quick connections to use DJ software via laptop. The signal output path from the mixer can be easily modified using its setup utility tool3 via a computer.
Sound Quality – The use of high quality components such as a 32-bit digital-to-analog output converter and a 32-bit digital signal processor, separate analog and digital circuitry, and extremely short audio transmission paths results in clear and powerful audio output.
TRAKTOR SCRATCH 2 Certified4

The DJM-850 offers compatibility to the Scratch Control (DVS) with Native Instrument's TRAKTOR SCRATCH PRO 2/DUO 2 software. Using the timecode disc bundled with the software and a PC, the DJM-850 is ready for scratch control (DVS) with a CDJ player or Vinyl turntable.


Additional Features
The DJM-850 is equipped with additional features that add to the versatility of the mixer:

MIDI Signal – Operation information of the mixer's knobs and buttons can be transmitted as a MIDI signal5 for a "Full Ensemble MIDI" function to control other connected devices.

Switching 3-Band EQ/Isolator – Each channel of the mixer is equipped with a switchable 3-band EQ (+6dB to -26dB) and 3-band isolator (+6dB to -∞dB)

High Performance Channel Faders – The slide mechanism supports the fader knobs with two metal shafts for both durability and smooth operation. Furthermore, the new mechanism's design minimizes the negative effects of moisture and dust particles on the mixer's performance.

P-LOCK Fader Cap – Keeps the fader channel and crossfader knobs (caps) locked, preventing them from physically slipping off during heavy use.

Scratch Control – Scratch control6 is possible by using the time code disc7 bundled with DJ software supporting DVS (Digital Vinyl System)8 from CDJ players and vinyl turntables.

Auto Standby – Automatically senses active operation and the presence of input signals, switching to standby mode when inputs are not detected for a long period.

The DJM-850 will be available in black or silver colors in March 2012 with a suggested retail price of $1,999.

Pioneer offers a complete line of professional DJ equipment through its Professional Sound & Visual Division. Its DJM series of mixers has become an industry standard at clubs, studios, mobile rigs and homes around the world, known for its high quality sound and reliability. For more information, visit www.PioneerDJusa.com.
Pioneer Electronics (USA) Inc. is headquartered in Long Beach, Calif., and its U.S. Web address is www.PioneerElectronics.com. Its parent company, Pioneer Corporation, established in Tokyo in 1938, is a preeminent manufacturer of high-performance audio, video and computer equipment for the home, car and business markets.

1As a hardware DJ mixer. Current as of February 23, 2012, based on Pioneer research.
2Windows/MacOS supported. For Windows, distribution to three or more systems is possible only when using software that supports ASIO.
3USB sound card functions can be used by installing the driver software and setup utility software from the included CD-ROM.
4TRAKTOR SCRATCH can be used without connecting a soundcard.
5Standard for linked performance with electronic music instruments.
6System for playback of music files on PC in combination with playback position/speed of the time code disc.
7CD/vinyl record with time code for control of DVS software.
8Serato's SCRATCH LIVETM is not supported.


PIONEER is a registered trademark of Pioneer Corporation
SCRATCH LIVE is a registered trademarks of Serato Audio Research
TRAKTOR 2 is a registered trademark of Native Instruments, Inc.
DJM-850 Specifications:

Number of channels: Audio: 4, Mic: 2
Inputs: CD/LINE x 4 (RCA), LINE x 2 (RCA), PHONO x 2 (RCA) MIC x 2 (XLR & 1/4 inch PHONE combined use x 1, 1/4 inch PHONE x 1)
Outputs:
MASTER OUT x 2 (RCA x 1, XLR x 1) BOOTH OUT x 1 (1/4 inch PHONE) HEADPHONE MONITOR OUT x 1 (top side 1/4 inch PHONE) REC OUT x 1 (RCA) DIGITAL OUT x 1 (COAXIAL)

Other terminals:
SEND X 1 (1/4 inch PHONE), RETURN x 1 (1/4 inch PHONE) MIDI OUT x 1 (5P DIN), USB x 1 (top side B port), CONTROL x 4 (Φ3.5 mm MINI JACK)

A/D, D/A converter: 24 bit / 32-bit
Sampling Rate: 96kHz/48kHz/44.1kHz
Frequency range: 20 Hz - 20 kHz
Total harmonic distortion: 0.004% or less
Signal to noise ratio: Min. 106 dB (LINE)
Head-room: 19 dB
Power use: 120 V AC (60 Hz)
Electricity consumption: 30 W
External dimensions: 12.6in (W) x 15.0in (D) x 4.25in (H)
Weight: 17 lbs
echa1945mf 6:02 PM - 23 February, 2012
i donno man , the 2000 was awesome,but the 900 soundcard suck balls , 4 time i use the soundcard , 4 time i always crashes using the 900 with Traktor (twice timecoded,twice internal) ,while the 2000 never ever crashes on me , if this one is using the same soundcard as 900............ nah ill pass , ill just wait for a Serato certified pio mixers (if that day ever comes)
DjWoody 6:09 PM - 23 February, 2012
I've never used the 900's soundcard, so I don't know. But man, if it crashed on you, that sucks.
echa1945mf 6:11 PM - 23 February, 2012
i swear to god , the 900 soundcard suuuuuucks , hope they release some kind of firmware upgrade , but 4 crashes in 4 plays ? nope im not sold , but other than the soundcard that mixer is bad ass , but i still prefer the 2000
LilSwann 6:23 PM - 23 February, 2012
Seems like a 800 with a sound card built in :/ not that special if you ask me but I've kinda gotten away from liking pioneer mixers like I used to especially after Rane's 68,61, & 62 much more appealing to me personally.
echa1945mf 6:29 PM - 23 February, 2012
i do love my 68 , i have them at home,and 2 at the club im residenting , but seeing most my work is constantly air travel,and most club here has pio's installed..... some dj's here (mostly the hiphop) are loyal to their 57 and carry them everywhere,me? the SL2 is enough for me


funny thing is , ive started a live electronic band that are getting quite a lot of bookings lately and ive copped the djm2000 for that band , i think its my 68 cursing me for always leaving it at home , now i travel with shitloads of gears T_T , thank god for roadcrew LOL
DjWoody 6:33 PM - 23 February, 2012
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Seems like a 800 with a sound card built in :/ not that special if you ask me but I've kinda gotten away from liking pioneer mixers like I used to especially after Rane's 68,61, & 62 much more appealing to me personally.


Nah, they did way more than that. Here's just some of the changes.

- Added new effects and got rid of some
- Added sidechaining for the effects (This one is BIG!)
- Changed out the EQ so now you can choose your EQ range
- Got rid of the digital inputs
- Got new faders w/new fade caps
skinnyguy 7:12 PM - 23 February, 2012
....and you don't need to use ssl 2.4 with it =P
DJ Eazy B 7:28 PM - 23 February, 2012
The build quality looks to be the same as the DJM 700 so if your coming from 800 it won't feel as solid.

It would be good to know what type of crossfader they've used in this as well.
I wanted to get the innofader for my 700 but they probably won't be coming out till the end of the year
DjWoody 8:38 PM - 23 February, 2012
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The build quality looks to be the same as the DJM 700 so if your coming from 800 it won't feel as solid.

It would be good to know what type of crossfader they've used in this as well.
I wanted to get the innofader for my 700 but they probably won't be coming out till the end of the year


Huh? This mixer is replacing the 800 and it's not even out yet. How do you know what the build quality is like?
Sol*los 9:19 PM - 23 February, 2012
My damn fader cap on my 800 flies off all the damn time.
jevo9 1:12 AM - 24 February, 2012
so is this supposed to be better then a 900??? i have an 800 with innofader
Niro 2:31 AM - 24 February, 2012
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i do love my 68 , i have them at home,and 2 at the club im residenting , but seeing most my work is constantly air travel,and most club here has pio's installed..... some dj's here (mostly the hiphop) are loyal to their 57 and carry them everywhere,me? the SL2 is enough for me


funny thing is , ive started a live electronic band that are getting quite a lot of bookings lately and ive copped the djm2000 for that band , i think its my 68 cursing me for always leaving it at home , now i travel with shitloads of gears T_T , thank god for roadcrew LOL


Echa, I'll be bring at least one 62 with me in a couple of months. You're going to love that mixer.
DjWoody 3:24 AM - 24 February, 2012
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so is this supposed to be better then a 900??? i have an 800 with innofader


No. It's supposed to replace the 800, but not the 900.
echa1945mf 8:44 AM - 24 February, 2012
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i do love my 68 , i have them at home,and 2 at the club im residenting , but seeing most my work is constantly air travel,and most club here has pio's installed..... some dj's here (mostly the hiphop) are loyal to their 57 and carry them everywhere,me? the SL2 is enough for me


funny thing is , ive started a live electronic band that are getting quite a lot of bookings lately and ive copped the djm2000 for that band , i think its my 68 cursing me for always leaving it at home , now i travel with shitloads of gears T_T , thank god for roadcrew LOL


Echa, I'll be bring at least one 62 with me in a couple of months. You're going to love that mixer.



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Weststar 3:22 AM - 25 February, 2012
I'm really torn between this and the Denon DN-X1600. I know the 850 isn't even out yet, but judging from what we know, can anyone give any advice?

The only reason I'm looking at the Pio is because most clubs have them. But the Denon just seems better overall. I don't know what to do.
housekeys 3:36 AM - 25 February, 2012
@Weststar, is there a reason why you wouldn't want to go the djm 900 route?
Weststar 4:21 AM - 25 February, 2012
Mainly money. Also, I don't really have a need for rekordbox, cdj start/stop (I use control vinyl), extra effects, and all of that. Is there something I'm overlooking in regards to the 900?
housekeys 1:31 AM - 26 February, 2012
@Weststar, I'd imagine the cost of a 900 vs a 850 would be roughly the same. MSRP of the 850 is $1,999, so online it'd probably be around $1,600 give or take, just about the same price of a new or used 900. I got my 900 for about $1,600 (new).

Also, I know you mentioned you wanted to go the Pioneer route because most clubs have them. I think that's correct, but I definitely have been seeing the 900 installed in most clubs, I can't see why they would get a 850 installed as well. So you'd probably run into more 900 at venues/clubs.

I think that the x-pad feature alone makes the 900 that much more appealing than the 850. Even if you aren't into effects; manipulating them with the x-pad while engaging a color effect is pretty awesome. And you can create some really nice build ups and transitions.

Just because you don't have a need for rekordbox and don't use cdj's doesn't mean you shouldn't be interested in the mixer. When I originally bought the 900, I was strictly using control vinyl (technics, m5gs). And I loved it, however, it did get me interested in purchasing some cdj's and eventually I did. And the 900 has quantized effects, and that seems to be the direction and emphasis of current and future pioneer flagship products. So at least in the future if you do decide to get cdj's or not at least you'll be able to utilize them to the fullest.

Errrr, didn't want to turn this into a 850 vs 900 debate, with that being said I'm sure the 850 is still an amazing mixer. It does offer some nice things that the 900 doesn't, but in the end, as a current 900 owner I can't see why I'd want the 850.
Discobee 10:14 PM - 1 March, 2012
I really dislike when Pioneer comes out with a whole new mixer after only making a few subtle, non-important, non-game-changing features and then wanna charge consumers $1600-$2000 for it. F**k that noise!
LilSwann 10:18 PM - 1 March, 2012
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I really dislike when Pioneer comes out with a whole new mixer after only making a few subtle, non-important, non-game-changing features and then wanna charge consumers $1600-$2000 for it. F**k that noise!

^This
Trinicapone 11:23 PM - 1 March, 2012
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I really dislike when Pioneer comes out with a whole new mixer after only making a few subtle, non-important, non-game-changing features and then wanna charge consumers $1600-$2000 for it. F**k that noise!


+100000000000000
Thats why I love my Rane 62. I was a Pio head went to Rane and never looked back. In fact I really see how useless Pioneer Can be
Djd'alex 7:39 AM - 7 April, 2012
Thats why i love my djm 900 nexus Let me tell You something i do parties everyweekend in Miami u use djm 900 with The soundtrack card integrated its amazing and Papo it's amazing I was using my sl3 before when I switch to tracktor well better sound quality and never a problem I love pio and yes for me the best equipment stop fucking around people hate pio well don't buy it but I ask my self why pio is the most realible brand for Dj now than anithing people , beacouse people buy it , rane is good but people prefer pio in mix and cdj rane in audio will never compare to tracktor for sure never and I used both software I like serato but now I'm more in use for tracktor Nd with the nexus man there is nothing compare to that and for me the only mixer that is better than djm in sound quality is db4 but more expensive and very hard to use and only 2 percent used it so pio is number 1 duela al q le duela rane 68 is a great mixer for sure amazing but also more expensive
Djd'alex 7:42 AM - 7 April, 2012
And yes djm 850 is good but I pay 1500 for the djm 900 brand new do why the fxxx I will pay 1699 for the 850 insane I think the best mixer out there now is the djm 900
Djd'alex 7:42 AM - 7 April, 2012
Thats why i love my djm 900 nexus Let me tell You something i do parties everyweekend in Miami u use djm 900 with The soundtrack card integrated its amazing and Papo it's amazing I was using my sl3 before when I switch to tracktor well better sound quality and never a problem I love pio and yes for me the best equipment stop fucking around people hate pio well don't buy it but I ask my self why pio is the most realible brand for Dj now than anithing people , beacouse people buy it , rane is good but people prefer pio in mix and cdj rane in audio will never compare to tracktor for sure never and I used both software I like serato but now I'm more in use for tracktor Nd with the nexus man there is nothing compare to that and for me the only mixer that is better than djm in sound quality is db4 but more expensive and very hard to use and only 2 percent used it so pio is number 1 duela al q le duela rane 68 is a great mixer for sure amazing but also more expensive
popnwave 6:12 PM - 7 April, 2012
Holy run on sentence, batman,
Kool DJ Sheak One 6:20 PM - 7 April, 2012
I didn't know our very own DJ Smizzle was demoing new Pioneer mixers, woot?
And what a boring video that was!
One knob was tweaked to shit for the whole video!
Was that supposed to make me want one?
ZZzzzzzz.
Code:E 7:23 PM - 7 April, 2012
the 900 is the 800 replacement.... The 850 is more like a 600 replacement...
Djd'alex 7:25 PM - 7 April, 2012
The 850 is the replacement of the djm 700 that is going to be discountinued
Code:E 7:31 PM - 7 April, 2012
oh really the 700 is done already... I only played on it once, i didnt mind it.

I play on a djm2000 most nights and like it. But i wanna try the 900 out a couple more times before i decided which i like better. I do really like some of the 900 efx and have heard that the sound card has issues but not as bad as mentioned above.
Alixx J 3:27 PM - 8 April, 2012
The side chaining on the 850 definitely interests me. We're hopefully getting a 900 at our club in the next few weeks, fingers crossed!! It's gonna replace a clapped out formula sound
djchrischip 4:51 PM - 8 May, 2012
maybe rane will look at the best qualities of the djm 800/ 900 and incorporate it into the new rane 69 when it comes out

Rane Sixty Eight

1. Better soft, and responsive buttons all around
2. Magnetic Channel Faders with adjustable tension and INDIVIDUAL Contour Curve Control
3. Center the Channel Strips- Right now they r off center and it bothers the shit out of me
4. 3 Band EQ for the mic channels
5. More LEDs in the PFL Meters- Right now its a bit hard to 'fine tune' Instead of the 7 LEDs/ Channel (5 Green, 2 Yellow, 1 Red) make it 15 LEDs/ Channel (10 Green, 4 Yellow, 1 Red)... STILL KEEP CURRENT IDIOT PROOF WONDERFUL GAIN STRUCTURE, Just add the LEDS
6. Better More Intuitive Effects- Be able to lock out parameters we will never use such as 1/2 beat flanger ( I personally would only leave 8 or 16 beat flangers available maybe a 4 beat one if that. same goes with phasers etc.
7. Better Sounding Effects engines- Filters to sound as good as A&H, Flanger to sound better than PIO, etc.
8. More Effects- Pio has 13 on Board, why do we only have 6... I really want to know.... I don't want to ever rely on computer taxing software effects ever, and we should out do the competition
9. Sound Color Effects- Expand on the channel filter and offer a bit crusher and the other 2 pio effects
10. bring Back mixtape
11. Ability to route the SP6 Sampler to the 'Main' Output = Post fader perhaps even? EX. route to ch. 1,2,3,4, CF A, CF B, SESSION IN, MIC 1, MIC 2, MAIN

This will perfect the Mixer in my eyes, Its already starting off dope, just looks and feels a bit rushed and now has stiff competition with the pio 850, 900
I would pay $2800 for this mixer for sure, $3200 if they call it the rane 69 (immature plug)

Serato (as a program)
1. Ability to go back to the old GUI (one with round PFL in Program Meters- this is 3/4 the reason I never wanted to upgrade past 1.9.2)
2. Stability I heard after 2.0 stability became a problem- this is no bueno and hurt consumer and long time customer confidence
3. Ability to turn off features we don't want (think this is possible already- just hope even with them turned off they don't tax on system performance)
4. Off line library management plug in (duplicate detection, mixed in key, play count detector, album art finder, auto tagging, audio vs video library scanner~ tool that sees if u played an audio track with no video of a similar name in library and crates it, etc. got 99 thousand ideas) $150/ plug in value
5. multi column sorting EX- SORT primarily and 1st by BPM, Then by Key, Then By user preference (artist alphabetical order, genre, track length, whatever)
6. many more but I am tired... but basically make sure us with large (over 2 TB libraries) still can use it with so so macbook Pros

serato.com
PiuMaD 10:17 PM - 24 September, 2013
la pioneer djm 850 no es compatible con sl1??