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Should I buy a Rane Sixty Eight or Sixty Two

Lenny Cordisco 8:35 PM - 7 February, 2012
I am really torn on this one. Both mixers are undoubtedly top notch but i really like the fact that the sixty eight has four channels. What would you people do ? I have the opportunity to pick up the sixty eight at a great price...less than the sixty two. What should i do ?
DJBIGWIZ 5:30 AM - 8 February, 2012
You should definitely try to check them out first. They are both great and I love 'em both and will be using both for different gigs but a lot of people have issues with the Sixty-Eight... mostly with the cue buttons. I personally haven't had a problem with them (the feel, triggering, not working etc...) but I seem to be in the minority on this. Also, the buttons on the Sixty-Two are much better. I really want to start taking the Sixty-Two out as my primary mixer but I've built a lot of the way I work around the Sixty-Eight and kind of like it. If I can figure out some acceptable work arounds to this, I may start using the Sixty-Two more but I really don't know. If you take the time to learn them both and realize what all they can do (especially the Sixty-Eight) and you are ok with the buttons, it's a tough call. If you need 4 channels or only two then that makes your decision a little easier.
Lenny Cordisco 1:04 PM - 8 February, 2012
Big WIZ, Are you the person who did the videos for the Sixty Eight ? If so, you made my decision easier from watching those videos. I think i am going with the sixty eight because of the four faders. I have heard a lot of complaints about the cue point buttons but i think the more I use the easier it will let me find that sweet spot. I also feel that the sixty eight is intimidating to many users, but your videos really explained all the features well.
I think the main kicker is having the 4 faders allows me to midi map two of them for pitch control in internal mode for certain gigs where i don't want to bring my decks. Since i use two devon 3700's and a pioneer cdj 900 i would want to take advantage of have three decks going at the same time.
Your thoughts, if any.

BTW, great job on those videos! Really explained a lot !
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Zach S 7:37 PM - 8 February, 2012
The 62 is dope but I still prefer the Sixty Eight as its a production/dj station.
It has taken the place of my 16 channel Mackie mixing board in my studio.
I like that my workflow when making beats and djing is essentially the same.

If I were just going to dj and didn't need four channels I would get the 62.
I also don't mind the cue buttons on the Sixty Eight.
Maybe if I were using them to drum I would but I use them to trigger Ableton clips and simple on/off for effects and what not.

You will hear talk about failing cue buttons if you do searches on the forum regarding the Sixty Eight but know that Rane has remedied the issue of such failing buttons.
If you were to buy a Sixty Eight that just came out of our factory you won't suffer from this issue.
If your going to purchase a used, older model, you may run into the issue of the cues getting stuck.
If that is the case we'd be happy to get your unit in for service and fix the issue permanently.
Lenny Cordisco 8:25 PM - 8 February, 2012
hey Zach, the four channels is my determining factor. I am picking up a used one and not sure when it was originally purchased. If i were to send it in for service, how much would it cost me to fix ?
WhattaMac 7:45 AM - 9 February, 2012
For the price of the 62 it's not worth it---68 all the way.
nik39 1:45 PM - 9 February, 2012
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You will hear talk about failing cue buttons if you do searches on the forum regarding the Sixty Eight but know that Rane has remedied the issue of such failing buttons.
If you were to buy a Sixty Eight that just came out of our factory you won't suffer from this issue.
If your going to purchase a used, older model, you may run into the issue of the cues getting stuck.
If that is the case we'd be happy to get your unit in for service and fix the issue permanently.

Hey Zach,

just curious.. how do you fix these issues permanently?
Lenny Cordisco 1:47 PM - 9 February, 2012
Well, i got the sixty eight and had some fun with it last night. It is a little bit of a learning curve but it's really not that difficult. I do have one simple question though.

I setup my left and right deck on channels 2 and three. Set Serato to ABS or REL mode. Now the cue buttons on the sixty eight don't work. If i set it to internal mode they work fine. Not sure what i am missing. I am assuming that i have to midi map the cue buttons on the sixty eight. is this right. I am not sure about this either, I think that the cue buttons in serato did not work either.
Does anyone know what i am talking about ?
Rane, Support
Zach S 6:16 PM - 9 February, 2012
@ Nik... the issue of the cues getting stuck was because the board was flexing and the cap on the cues would get stuck. We've since added washers to the assembly which fixes this.
The switches will still get oxidization on them over time and may need to be lubed but the cue itself should not get stuck.
Rane, Support
Zach S 6:17 PM - 9 February, 2012
@Lenny,

Do you see the cue lights on the mixer lit up when you load a file that has cues in it?
Know that you have to be in REL or INT mode to use the cues in the software.
nik39 6:46 PM - 9 February, 2012
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@ Nik... the issue of the cues getting stuck was because the board was flexing and the cap on the cues would get stuck. We've since added washers to the assembly which fixes this.
The switches will still get oxidization on them over time and may need to be lubed but the cue itself should not get stuck.

Ah thanks.

Does lubrication really fix the oxidization and does not harm "connectivity" (closing the circuitry/switch)?
Lenny Cordisco 7:19 PM - 9 February, 2012
@zach... maybe that was my problem, i will setup using channels 1&2 and set it to REL Mode. I thought i tried that. I will give it a go tonight and if it works, i will be comfortable enough to use it Friday night.
Thanks for the assist.
Rane, Support
Zach S 10:36 PM - 9 February, 2012
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Does lubrication really fix the oxidization and does not harm "connectivity" (closing the circuitry/switch)?

I don't think it would hurt the switch. Deoxit is what our repair guys use on all Rane gear and have forever. We all know the longevity of a Rane mixer:)
nik39 11:10 PM - 9 February, 2012
Does deoxit also lubricate?
DJBIGWIZ 10:07 PM - 13 February, 2012
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Big WIZ, Are you the person who did the videos for the Sixty Eight ?

BTW, great job on those videos! Really explained a lot !

Yes and thank you.
Sry for the late response.
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I setup my left and right deck on channels 2 and three. Set Serato to ABS or REL mode. Now the cue buttons on the sixty eight don't work.

Like Zach said, cue points only work in REL or INT mode. ABS mode is just like using "real" vinyl. It is not possible for the needle to remain in the same physical groove on the record and jump to a different point in the song like this.
As far as the one set to REL mode not working... if you have cue points assigned to a track and they are not showing up or working, you probably have your "Primary" decks set to something other than 2 and 3 so while the cross fader can be set to still fade between them, the SL controls on the mixer are controlling 2 or at least 1 different deck.
Go to your setup screen, hardware tab and make sure to select channels 2 & 3 as your primary decks
E-Double 2:12 AM - 14 February, 2012
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You will hear talk about failing cue buttons if you do searches on the forum regarding the Sixty Eight but know that Rane has remedied the issue of such failing buttons.
If you were to buy a Sixty Eight that just came out of our factory you won't suffer from this issue.
If your going to purchase a used, older model, you may run into the issue of the cues getting stuck.
If that is the case we'd be happy to get your unit in for service and fix the issue permanently.


Sorry for the thread hi-jack guys...

@Zach-I'm an early 68 purchaser and have issues to this day with the cue and effects buttons on mine. Do I just put in a service request to get the repairs done?

I never saw any kind of announcement about the fix for the 68 buttons BTW.
Rane, Support
Zach S 8:01 PM - 14 February, 2012
E-Double... check your PMs:)
DJScottC 3:30 AM - 16 February, 2012
I have also have had issues with my mixer cue buttons and have returned my sixty eight twice for repair. I ordered mine as soon as it came out. The accuracy of the buttons on my Sixty Eight are still an issue. How do I figure out if they put the washers on mine when it was in for repair and do I have to take the mixer apart to lube the buttonsand has the lube helped out in the accuracy of them? Sorry I know this is a bit off topic for this post but saw the other DJs asking about it so I figured I woudl ask as well.

Thanks

Scott
Gameguy236 4:18 AM - 16 February, 2012
i'm having this same exact dilemma, i have the money to get the sixty eight and i'm trying to decide whether or not i should drop the extra 600 for the two extra faders or just get the sixty two... are the faders on the sixty two midi mappable like the sixty eight?
Rane, Support
Zach S 6:29 PM - 16 February, 2012
@ Scott.... PM me with your full name and I can look up your repair.

Also here is a two part video a user posted regarding how to lube the buttons yourself:
--> Watchwww.youtube.com
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This is the same process we would do if you sent the unit in.
The lube we recommend using is this --> store.caig.com

Note: If you mess your mixer up when doing this we will not fix it under warranty. With that said, the process is not hard. As long as you follow the instruction in the video you should have no problems.
Rane, Support
Zach S 6:30 PM - 16 February, 2012
@ Gameguy,

Yes.. the faders on the 61 and 62 are midi mappable.
DJ Tino C 2:44 PM - 19 February, 2012
Ok, guys. I have been reading alot of the forums. I am primarily a bedroom DJ, not gonna front, however, I got incorporated last year and have been doing more gigs on weekends. I have also been dabbling with producing using mainly my own analog equipment, such as drum machines and samplers....old school ways. I do need a Serato SL mixer for producing mixtapes and going out on gigs, but don't want something that might be overkill or out of my league, but I do want the availability of channels and aux inputs. So here's my deal, I'm torn between the 68 and 62 coming out. I mainly use a roland sp-555 and normally 2 decks, I do mostly hip hop and reggae dancehall, latin too. I think the 62 might fit my needs more, now that it has hot cues etc, but I like the idea of having a kaossilator, sp-555 or multiple toys on the side to play with on the fly. Can I get some feedback from Rane and DJs? Thanks everybody in advance.
djchrischip 4:42 AM - 20 February, 2012
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