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questions about re-encoding/converting

djSMIRK 2:03 PM - 29 December, 2011
hello all

im probably gonna grab VSL before the sale is over (shit, time is running out!) and i've been reading some of the articles here about converting formats and what not.

i probably will be signing up for PO DVD (i like having a hardcopy) and will be doing my converts on a MAC using Handbrake and the VSL preset.

im a little confused about the size of the video and the framerates of the "finished product" (the encoded video in h264/mp4)

I borrowed a friend's DVD to play around with Handbrake and I see in the preset that the frame rate is set to 'same as source' and the output video is going to be 640x480...

I saw some threads about IVTC. Does this need to be done with PO DVDs? or maybe the better question is, how can I tell if IVTC needs to be done?

thanks,
phatbob 2:21 PM - 29 December, 2011
Hmmm.

My suggestion is that you'll be absolutely wasting your time. ;-)

Are you ever gonna play the actual DVDs? No.

So why bother getting them, ripping them, encoding them etc, when for the same or less money you can join Xtendamix or SmashVidz, get all the different clean/dirty/extended versions, with no work for yourself other than hitting the download button?

If you must have a 'hard copy' burn DVD data discs to use as backup.

Seriously dude, unless it's a track you just can't get anywhere else, that DVD ripping stuff is totally 2010...
tomatoslice 4:11 PM - 29 December, 2011
dvd, total waste of time. you will spend so much time dealing with rendering. not only that but some PO dvds can't even be properly copied sometimes. trust me, i have well over 500 dvds from them. plus, the hideous chyrons.

dvds are pretty much obsolete. move forward with technology not backward.
if you want a hard copy your backup hardrive, or 2, is your hard copy.


but to answer one of your questions about dvds;
you don't HAVE to ivtc unless you want to brings back movie's original framerate from ntsc's 29.97fps to 24fps. most people do it for video editing. it does improve the look of some videos. i don't know exactly how to tell when to do it but those that ivtc regularly can tell somehow. i think it's basically something that takes practice or a trained eye.
djpuma_gemini 7:19 PM - 29 December, 2011
+1 to Tomatoslice.

3 years ago, shit more like 4 now, when I first started doing video (maybe 3) you would need to ivtc stuff cause there weren't any pools out.

Now you have many choices are far as pools go.
I would not, repeat WOULD NOT, got any dvd service that puts their videos out in vob format 720x480 @29.97fps.

You will waste way way way way way too much time ivtc'ing all of that and if you just batch encode them to mp4, they will look like ass, have the wrong dimensions and all the ws videos will be letterboxed.
Pick a pool that has their files in the correct A/R and dimensions as well as frame rate.
djSMIRK 8:02 PM - 29 December, 2011
lol, alright then. sold!

thanks.
tomatoslice 8:58 PM - 29 December, 2011
good to hear.

i just thought of something else.
so what if you did have all those dvds as a backup, what are you going to do if your main HD dies? are you going to play those dvds out at a club? re-render them all?
or are you going to simply use your backup hardrive?

i did some research awhile ago and it costs more to copy and store a hard copied dvd per gigabyte than just buying a hardrive.
DVDs = Dont Vucking Do Shit
djSMIRK 9:44 PM - 29 December, 2011
well the idea was to have a backup copy of all the rips along with the DVDs ;)
djpuma_gemini 9:45 PM - 29 December, 2011
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well the idea was to have a backup copy of all the rips along with the DVDs ;)



Backup your mp4's onto an external/drobo etc.
djSMIRK 9:53 PM - 29 December, 2011
Hey, another ? for you guys.. What about re-encoding of "HD" video from other formats, such as MKV.

Would the VSL preset in Handbrake be acceptable?
djpuma_gemini 10:03 PM - 29 December, 2011
some mkv's you can do a file, save as to mp4 50% of the time and get the audio/video into h264/aac format, but a lot of times it won't work

mkv to me is usually a pirated HD source from a tv cap.
djSMIRK 10:10 PM - 29 December, 2011
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mkv to me is usually a pirated HD source from a tv cap.


yehh, could be
djpuma_gemini 10:35 PM - 29 December, 2011
Still sometimes they are legit as well.