You forgot the diagonal lines, which mean ground wires are unhooked. Took me A hot minute to figure that one out till I got under the board at Crobar Miami.

a line means one channel is missing, the angle is just the phase/anti-phase balance, or p/ap setting.

thanks for these scope examples...very helpful...



although I still have to figure out why I have 100% good signal when I play...but my threshold still goes to the -24dB range when I try to calibrate it.....

Hey Josh, I think it would be a great feature if you had the possible cause of someones tracking problem on the screen. Some of those scopes look a like, so adding a "Bad turntable vibration" under the scope will help me not to think its "Using Piggyback Cables".

Just an idea..

This might be a little too high-tech (I know you guys can do wonders), but what if SSL actually could recognize the cause of the signal and display it?

thats a great suggestion. For those using IE, I saved this page in my "SSL" folder, just so that if I am ever in a bind trying to figure it out at a club and I have no wireless connection I can look at the pictures saved right on my computer.

Just go to FILE> Save As...> Select the "Webpage Complete" option and save. All pictures and html file will be saved.

Thank DJ BIS, that's a great suggestion as well :) I just saved this page as well... i'm not too tech savy, so every little tip helps :)

these displays helped me isolate my problem, thanks

I have a question.

I got the horizontal line on the scope for my ortofone catriage. I just switched out the needles (so they're brand new) and I still see the same problem. Using another set of needles showed a good signal scope. anyone know what the possible problem would be and how to fix it?

can you make a new thread Christin? ^_^

Ortophons have their connection point too far in the center of the needle cartridge head. This tends to make Ortophons loose partial contact with the tone arm contact points and thus loose one channel (either the left or the right channel) This may be what is happening in this case. Even when new they sometimes have atendency to have one side have more volume then the other. Or it could be a combo of the turntable rca wire having a similar problem and being exponentialy multiplied when added to the ortophon cartridge problem.
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this is really helpful. Thanks!

Here's another example scope display worth posting -->> img428.imageshack.us

Here is the cause -->> www.scratchlive.net

quick question.. im not experiencing problems or anything but since yoru on teh subject, my % is never constant at 100%... it stays above 90, but it goes from 90 - 100% back and forth on both turntables.. liek i said no problem, but just wondering if its normal?

that sounds like normal record wear, shouldn't be a problem.

well, that´s normal... when you use the Vinyl!!! but not for cd!

It´s a analog signal from the record and will never be 100% constant, because there are other sounds (people talking, the Monitorspeaker etc.) that the needle takes with it, too.

It wouldn´t be a problem with cd´s, either but it shouldn´t, cause thats a digital signal.

Don´t think about it... My Signal somtimes at the club (when its full, the Monitor is very loud etc.) is at 70 - 80 - 90
And it works without a problem, except my small problem with the dropout every hour, but that´s not the thema here.

Relax DJKasper_YNY...your SSL is fine

Chris

: ) thanks for the quick replies. : )
Im glad it isnt a problem.. thank god. : )
it was just that i wasnt getting 100% even on the side of the vinyl i never used, so i was curious..
i appreciate it. thanks.

hey Vegas, just curious...you're still getting those hourly dropouts....(in the club?)....what do you do when this happens? are the crowd aware of this? how bout the club owner? (sorry kasper for the thread hiJack)

please just post about the scope examples in this thread guys.

@Mike Conquilla: I know exactly when the drop out comes... so I play at that time a cd or another vinyl... that´s the only possibility.

erm, did you see my post? take this elsewhere please I don't want sticky threads to go off topic.

lol.

I have used my serato twice in the club, first week all was sweet, 2nd week, i had sound problems, some tracks was a slight vocla warble in them, hard to explain, but my signal in the setup was like this.
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I am using Concorde scratch Pro, if i used the cdj's will it track better etc?

your image link didn't work Soulvation, did you preview and then copy/paste or something?

don't answer that, just post the pic again :-)

Sorry about that.

img428.imageshack.us

I took the pic form one of the above topics.(Shaun Whitcher)

I have the same pic as the deck on the left of the picture.

www.scratchlive.net Are you using a USB hub or are you connected directly into the computer's USB port?

Direct to the mac

now what the heck does that mean Josh of Rane? a line means one channel is missing, the angle is just the phase/anti-phase balance, or p/ap setting.

it's in reply to the post above it:



I was explaining that there is no need for a separate example of a "diagonal line" since:



and there are already 2 examples of a line, one for each channel which is missing. You can rotate the angle of them by turning the P/AP knob on the setup screen.

Quote: a line means one channel is missing

i was having problems with calibrating one turntable and through all my troubleshooting I found out it was the table and not the cartridges, ground wires or mixer......

this isn't necessarily a scratchlive question, but does this mean i need to get my rcas redone? or is it something else? your help is appreciated

yeah get them serviced by a professional.

Someone should take a snap shot of the scope when key correction is on the CD deck or TT. I would do it but I dont have a unit with key correction.

im having trouble setting up my scope , one channel wont work .i just bought sreato with some
ortofons

hey...if anyone can help me out...i just got serato yesturday...i'm pretty sure i'm doing everything right....but the interface doesn't show on the program???
when it's installing...it says error....(code10)

ikeris, please start a new topic for your problem, this thread is about the example scope displays.

Where did the examples go??

First link all the way at the top. They work for me.

speaking of scope displays my tracking varies from 65-100%. I know thats way too much fluctuation. I am so far to know that its neither the needles nor the records, cause I tested them already. Im assuming an earthing problem, but Im not sure.

I have no USB dropouts but from time to time I get little pop noises that annoy me. Can you help me?

I strongly advise you to start your own thread about it. If you haven't already that is...

hello. i just got my SSL today. i use shure 447's and i scratch and juggle really heavily and haven't changed my needles in a reeeeeally long time...probably more than 2 years. the scope display on the left side somewhat resembles the "damaged needle" diagram, but mine is WAAAAAAAY more screwed up and instead of having the little slash, the WHOLE circle is messed up and looks like it got totally squished. but comparing it to the examples, this is the closest match.
the diagram on the right side is fine, and when i move that needle to the left side, the diagram is still fine, so this leads me to believe my left needle is really messed up. i scratch with my left hand (record hand) so i'm assuming this is the cause or at least a huge contributing factor.
im going to buy a new stylus tomorrow and i think it'll clear it up, but i'm trippin over what bad shape it appears to be in.
anyone else experienced this? based on my experience with rane, im pretty confident it's not a software issue.

djgadget - can you take a screenshot of your "WAAAAAAAY more screwed up" scope?

how do i post a pic on here? if i cant figure it out i'll video it and put it on youtube

Upload a picture to scratchlive.net

you know i actually rehooked everything up again today and it works fine. no more weird scope problem. and i didnt even buy a new needle..?

The damaged needle scope also resembles something you get with an incorrect weight.

Alright I was wicked drunk but, I was on somebody elses set up and tried to hook up Serato. Hooked it up, and every time I loaded a track to either side it would just kick over to vinyl scroll, I farted around with the threshold, rehooked everything and nothing. The scope resembled something like Yul Brynner bodyslamming a wombat, sorry I didn't get a picture.

Reverend Jon,



The inputs (from the turntables or CD players) are the wrong way around.

The left channel output from your turntable or CD player is in the right channel input for Scratch LIVE (and the right channel output is in the left channel input).

This will result in the track playing backwards, and/or movement of the control record or CD scrolling your selection through the library.

Note that many older turntables that have been serviced end up with the red and white RCA cables connected the wrong way around.

These kinds of scopes are usually down to damaged needles or wrong weight on the tonearm, but your main issue is like Zach says

I guarantee that's what it was, he had big beefy RCAs running from his tables. I did the standard weight check, unhooked everything and just hooked up one table and line to the hardware and got the same results. Did all that with one eye closed, so you know what I did next? Peed in his dirty clothes, that's what happens when I can't rave.

i was just checking out the scope examples.it is a big help,but i am stoooopid.can someone explain what it means by "earthing"?

Earthing = grounding = ground wire on turntable.

This is the display scope I get with my ttm 57. Help please.

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Ency brown please make a help thread and we'll take a look at it there.

has anyone noticed the further u get to the end of the control signal, the uncircular the calibration circles get? i'll post a quick vid later today (if i'm the only one seeing this, then i probably need new needles?)

Tested it and it's the same here. Though my CV aren't new and my Shures aren't new too.

I noticed that with ortofon cartridges the signal has been pretty bad for me. Then if I twist the cartridge and tone arm slightly I get a better looking control signal.

This is normal because of the way the tonearm moves across the record. You can minimize the effect by making sure your cartridge is properly aligned.

thanks nobspangle, any advice regarding aligning concords? not sure if it's adjustable

Nothing can be done for concordes, they are supposed to be aligned but in practice they aren't.

My DJ Concorde's show a marked lack of quality compared to a pair of Electros mounted on headshells. I am sure I could still play at the club with them and be just fine, but take the headshell mounted pieces for the real deal.

so can headshell users confirm that they do not see this condition regarding the control circles becoming uncircular as it reaches the end of the 15 minute mark?

No matter how i allign my shures (headshell) the circles become more oval as it reaches the end. Though i have PDXs with straight tonearm (maybe that's it).

I cannot confirm right now, but I assume that if you are getting good tracking when you scratch and the tracking Indicator is stable (a lil' in the red here and there...) throughout the full extent of the record then you should be OK, no?

If the red appears constantly and in large amounts then I would be concerned. Is this happening to you? Are you having other problems in addition to the change in shape and clarity of the scope circle?

All decks with a gimbal (like technics) tonearm will show this effect, aligning your cartridge will help but you'll never get rid of it. You need a parallel tracking arm like this www.audionord.se

ok, so i look at my scope, and look at the examples here and i have tried everything, the only fix that helps and get me thru the night is adjusting the threhold....i mean my needles are brand new, i cleaned the contacts in the tone arm, tightened the rca cable, make ground was tight,checked the tonearm weight....the only thing i dont have is foam under the tables for vibration......but thats no it, my scopes look my ear, round on one side and all effed up on the other, i get somewhat of the example of piggyback cables.....but there is none......all are direct connects, i will be taking a pic and vid as the scope changes periodically, thi has to be fixed as i play this gig 3 nights a week

Did you adjust them with the knobs next to the scope-display?

how old r your control records? can u access some newer ones to compare?

i cleaned my records tried new ones as well and i adjusted the hell out of them every which from sunday

the sound is not distorted in anyway cause of the threshold fix....why it works i dont know but it does and it saved me...thx for the input and help guys

same problem tonight but thresh fix worked again.....buying floats for turntable this week...ees if that makes difference.....i was there when complete silence and still looked like bass feedback or piggyback

start up your own help topic if you're still getting threshold problems shortbus :-)

one quick thing to note would be look out for any lighting equipment or (internally) high voltage devices like TV screens/CRT monitors, and power supplies/adapters.

also try moving your SL 1 while looking at the scopes to see if the distortion changes from moving relative to an EM field.

heres an update, i got to the club early to try and figure it out......when dead silence in club i had perfect circles, when i started playing then it happened again.....i guess im gettin to much vibration feedback thru the needles....so thats the nexr step to use foam, im also bringing a second pair of needles to see if there is a difference

okay, found some resolution with this problem,im using Ortofon Pro Blacks, so I switched styli to my old Orto pro s and gues what the circle is stable, still some sounds vibration, getting some foam tommorrow and see if that completes the fixx

quick question for anyone i just got beatune and used it but it locked out like 90% of my music in ssl how do i fix this? there is a little lock on the songs in the left hand side and when i grap the file it says file not found but the fill can be played in itunes without ssl.

what's goin on with these circles? Watchwww.youtube.com too much bass?

damn, that defenitely looks like the isolation on the TT is not doing a good job... Not sure though man, Josh may have to help...

Is the sub right under that deck?

no its above me about 3 feet foward

yes that is definately bass coming back thru the needle, is there foam under the TT? i did that and that fixed casue mine looked the same..........all that is over now since I just bought Pioneer CDJ-1000MK3's and a Pioneer DJM-800, I will post when were done rebuilding the booth

Do you have the counter weight on backwards?

no the weight are on correctly.......

I have a new example scope display...

Its a squished circle- half the size... And I couldnt find an example.. so 1/2 hour of fiddling before the show and messing with grounds I tracked it down..

You get a squished half size circle with very bad tracking about0-12 percent.. but still works some how...

One of my turntables has a pinched rca cable.. so When I would only supposedly get half the signal the circle would be half size...

After fidgetting aound I got it to work..

Ill try and post example display I hope you can understand and if you have a example scope display like this post it thanks..

Aloha

Half sized even if you zoom in using the "scope zoom slider" (1x - 16x)?

si it's possible to use scratch live with the ssl card?

u mean sd card? i would imagine so

i have installed 1.6 and i cant get the mic to record now

1.6.? Get the latest one.

Go to the Scratch LIVE setup screen and look at the bottom right corner, do you have 1.6.2 (16227) installed?

My rane is going reverse on one of them.how can i fix dis?I need help

Reverse the RCAs on your turntable/CDJ going into the interface (white into red, red into white).

all im getn is the sound of the signal record even when a track is loaded

i'm having a problem with the calibrating and the scope view i'm not getting very good signal. i get a viwe the size of a dime and not very good sound all tho i'm at 85 to 100% and i'm not able to get sound from(abs)what is the best way to go about fixing that.

Do you have phono input selected in the setup menu and not line?

have you tried zooming in anthony? and if your sound quality is bad it is probably the actual mp3 files or your mixer or speakers

no i'm going thur line should i selected phono for abs

yes still no bigger then a dime. one of my boys came over to show me the scope view on his and he's got a nice cicle and sound and most of the music i got from him

If you're using turntables you want it on phono, only select line if you're using CD players.

ok i see i'll try that . thk u

i have a video of the weird scope ive been gettign is there some place where i can upload it


myset up is numark ttx1's and a rane empath

pc =

4.8gig x2 amd
3gigs of ram
win xpmc

well heres the vid


www.xeornx.com

that dotn work....

www.xeornx.com

hi Dj.B1n4ry,

it looks like your signal is being lost periodically from your TTX, have you tried changing it (and ssl) into phono?

So when i have my ortofons hooked up the circles are bigger than when i have my 44s on. are the circles bigger cause the signal is coming off the wax stronger/louder?

Last night, my set up worked fine, but this morning, I hooked up everything and I'm getting a vertical line in my left channel. I cleaned the needle connection, switched rca cables, and still nothing. I did everything in the manuel. Help, I'm new to this....

i never got around to doing that .......but it works fine now.....weird

Sometimes carts can be a little picky about how they get plugged into some turntables. Try loosening the cart slightly, twisting clockwise/counterclockwise and then tightening the tread so that they are solidly in place.

Try not to blow and never lick the contacts of your cartridge, it only helps temporarily and eventually deteriorates the contacts.

If you feel your contacts may be dirty try DEOXYIT (can be purchased at most Radio Shack stores for about $14.

Good luck.

Correction: ...twisting clockwise/counterclockwise *on the cratridge itself*...

The idea is to re-align the contacts to a slightly skewed position.

anyone?

Yeah, your ortofons (what types?) must be louder than your 44s.

I have my night club s and e's. Both appear to have a bigger circle compared to the 44g's. That's strange cause the output on the 44s are supposed to be significantly louder. Honestly i think im in the clear now. before, i hated the sound of the 44s and id always just take my NC's. Now that im using serato im not concerned with cue burn that heavy scratching will bring using the ortofons. I do still play records so having the NC's on will sound way better. kool now i can burn out these control record instead of my wax.

be aware that cue burn will adversely affect your tracking though...

check out this for what I mean: scratchlive.net

Thanks DJ Bis. I tried your techniques but I'm still getting the vertical line. I just bought the new Shure "Whitelabel" needles and I have the same problem. Maybe it's the turntable? I tried switching the decks around and the same effect happened on the right side. This is crazy!

Also, when the deck is moving, the tracking indicator is reading "red" about 3/8's of the way. no "grey" at all. The virtual deck is spinning very slowly backwards and it plays regular vinyl perfectly. Thanks.....

so if i dont do any scratching im better off using my ortofons huh?

I'm all good! My technic's ground and rca's are on the fritz. I'm going to the shop. Thanks for y'all's help!

it sounds like it, but essentially the best thing is have some spare records around in any case :-)

Hmmm, there is a good chance that the cables could be bad or shorted within the tonearm. Did you try normal vinyl to see of music is coming out of both speakers? Is the signal coming out of both speakers if you switch to phono?

Did you try picking up some DEOXIT?

I hope you can figure this out.

Bj B1n4ry, You Had It Set To Line When It Should Have Been On Phono... and your threshold settings were at the lowest setting... just to let ya know, but its good you got it workin?

I've had some trouble with strange signals. After a while I found out that it was a bad cable getting me confused. Since then I allways carry some new cables, just in case.

I am getting this as well. I noticed that only one of my turntables is giving me an angled line. This just started happening. what are some fixes I can try to remedy this problem? I'll check the ground on the turntable to see if that's it, but any other suggestions would be helpful. I get this problem when the grounds are hooked up though too.

JaPetto, are you using Ortofon needles?

JaPetto, are you using Ortofon concorde needles?

Greetings.....

I'm getting the sort of error demonstrated below since the 1.71 update, specifically on a Dell Inspiron 6400 laptop with plenty of memory and processor power. The problem doesn't seem to affect my desktop.

scratchlive.net

Where the circle is fairly small, whereas in the past it didn't look as such. It's happening on both tables. I've tried pinpointing the problem but to no avail. I've traded out needles.....redid the wiring.....installed new drivers.....the program....changed out the Serato records.....everything but still I'm getting a little bit of distortion and the above 'error' when using Serato.

I'm getting sound and playable tracks, but they are at far lower quality than what I've been used to hearing.

My question is, do you have to update the Serato program consecutively or can you hop-scotch over releases to the latest release? Also, is there an issue when you use multiple admin accounts on a XP Pro laptop w/ Serato installed? The reason I ask is that I've got Serato installed on one specific admin account (and chose to have it installed across both admin accounts), but was curious if I may be encountering problems because I'm using the alt admin account rather than the one I used to install Serato onto on the same laptop?

Hope that makes sense.

Any ideas?

Do you have phono input selected in the setup menu and not line?

If you do, make a new topic and we'll help you out there :-)

i too have had some problems with different amplitude output of ortofon cartridges... I have noticed it a problem with a particular tip. I wonder if it was just a glitch. Tips are so expensive these days, im not trying to toss this yet.. But one is significantly lower in volume and is indicated as a smaller circle in settings of scratch live

can someone please tell me what this scope is meaning ? I can't find a decent explanation in de manuals. www.a-lone.be

i got my SSL right out of the box this morning, installed the lot, imported music library from iTunes and got the following scope.

Also the right deck has problems concerning pitch %. It's constantly switching and you can really hear it. all of a sudden the software indicates 11% whereas i'm playing at 3% or something ...

HELP

not seen that before but the pic is showning tracking at 0% normally should be 90% and above.

think it could be a bad or loose/noisey RCA or tonearm connections.

try swaping the turntables over to the opposite input of the serato box to see if the bad signal moves with the turntable.then try swapping the headshells.

also check that the ground wire of the turntable is properly attached to the mixer (I'm guessing you are using turntables)

Cyrax, that would indicate a "massive" hum in one channel.

thx guys ... I took the 'malfunctioning' TT to the shop, he's going to screw it open and attach new good cabling ... i'm hoping this wil fix my problem ...

...fixed ... :)

why am I having this very small scope display?? everything is normal, only that problem worries me alot. I'd changed sets and even put on my friends' set, the display still stays very tiny

Lower output needles will have "smaller" circles compared to higher output needles. Although size doesn't really matter, as long as SSL can read the control signal 100%, you should be fine.

That's all pretty damn cool! It helps you troubleshoot so many problems, even if it's not directly Serato related.

try to zoom in your circles by using the side-trigger which
says 2x 4x 8x ...
it helps to get your small green dots pretty round°!

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Hello

I'm newish here, please forgive me if this is in the wrong section

I was playing in a fricken loud club lastnight, the needles were getting dusty quickly and there was lots of sub bass. Now can poor tracking affect the bpm of a tune in relative mode??? Like if you have 2 tunes perfectly matched and the signal is poor can they slide out???

Cheers

Nice site, found some good info on getting my lappy running faster :)

Smithtron,

Bad tracking (aka dust or any other foreign particle) can affect the way a song is playing, even in relative mode. Make sure you clean your needles on a regular basis.

hello . i first use the sl yesterday and i ve found 2 minor problems.
1st you can check the room where i play in www.estacaodaluz.pt to have an idea of the room and the distance i play from the pa.

in the beggining of the night everything was ok, but after get crowdy i started to hear a feedback. increased the threshold to the middle and it stopped.( did i did it right?) . note that i ve measure the threshold ammount (estimate) with no music and with the room empty and he stopped near the left side.
note also that i use the stanton needles( i havent buyed yet the sure ones) . can be the cause of the feedback ? and did i do the right decision on changing threshold?
while i was playing the scope was not so clear and looks like "bad turntable vibration", but the sound was clear an powerfull. is it normal? i dont know what can i do. just change the needles. anny suggestion?

thanks for all.
after the 1st night everything is ok an i am an happy user. very reliable and stable.

You want to calibrate at full playing volume, not with no music. If anything you should be lowering the threshold to the right, not left.

but if o do "estimate" with sound the threshold moves totally to the right!! how should i do the right "estimate"?

but if o do "estimate" with sound the threshold moves totally to the right!! how should i do the right "estimate"?

What I usually do is play a song in Internal mode, then do the calibration. You need to calibrate at the volume you will be playing at. It makes no sense to calibrate in silence, cause that will give false threshold estimates. And many times yes, at gigs, the estimate threshold will often jump all the way to the right to -24dB, that's just the nature on playing on loud systems.

thanks konix.
and in any case playing with it on max will affect sound quality? (threshold should work something like a comp/limiter isnt?).

off course with a well eq system you can listen some decrease on low freq amp and attack too. but i think its a hardware specification (or limitation)

All the estimate threshold does is set the signal-to-noise ratio. It doesn't really have an effect on sound quality. Well, it does in the sense that when it's set higher (to the left toward -72dB), smaller movements of the control vinyl will be picked up, and when it's set higher (to the right toward -24dB) smaller movements won't be picked up. Also, if it's set too low to the left, when you lift the needle up, your tracks may "jitter" around and make noise. So, what you want is to find the "happy medium" threshold setting, not too low, not too high. But like I said, often in clubs, it will go all the way to the right to -24dB because there's so much noise and interference, and there's not much you can do.

how do u correct this when using the exact same needles? I have had issues where one tip was smaller than other which affected playback with amplitude. what u think?

sounds like they aren't "the exact same needles" ?

well they are the brand and model.... As far as a variation with how they were manufactored (a glitch), that is always possible. Is there any other explanation or way to fix this?

have you tried swapping them between your decks to make sure it's not something with that TT?

what make and model prizo?

yeh i have, well i had issues with ortofon nightclub (not concords, the mountable kind). I eventually switced back to the lowgrade shure series - sc35c

its def an issue with certain tips, dont know if its just a manufactoring glitch or what

Quick question- Played at a club w/ a TT57 ( I didn't know beforehand) so I hooked up their USB and it said "found new hardware" but nogo, I need the drivers. No big deal, hooked up my box and continued on. So before I went back there the next month, I upgraded to latest patch (1.7.2) that says the drivers for TT57 are included. Got to the club, hooked it up, nogo... didn't even come up with the "new hardware" screen. Am I missing another driver/software?

My bad, wrong thread. Too many screens!

i'm used scratchlive version1.7.2. on my mac book with version OS X10.4.9, am i up date to 10.4.10 now ? it's okay now ?

hi gary, I'm not sure what you mean, could you start a new help topic?

that's chinglish for you. he's asking if there are any issues running ssl 1.7.2 with mac os x 10.4.10.

no problems here btw.

oops... didn't see how old this thread was since the last post.

that's cool, it's a sticky for a reason :-)

hello!

i have a problem with calibrating my sl. on the right deck the scope is no sharp line it shows up noisy and woblles around the signal is estimated as ~ 60 %. i have checked earthing, changed needle and tried a brand new vinyl. but when i put the same turntable to the left input (1) the signal shows up as 95-100% and the lines are sharp.

what might be the problem?
tia

As for the scope display with round but SMALL rings, it says "SL 1 is set to receive line level input. Set input level to correct value", what's this mean exactly? I got a similar scope reading (nice clean circles but SMALL!). SL DOES run through the LINE anyway doesn't it?

They mean the phono/line input button in the setup menu. If you are using turntables, set it to phono, if CD players, set it to line.

hello! I have found out about the problem. as I was using SSL the first time with this PC a hadn't recognized this type of error before, as with my notebook, to which ssl is connected typically this didn't occur. so I tried and connected ssl to my notebook- the error was gone. so i again connected it to my pc and windows showed up that there was not enough usb bandwidth for ssl. i don't know why i did not show this the first time i connected it but now i didn't work anymore. i found out that on my whole pc the is only one usb controller for all the usb ports and no matter what I would connect to them the bandwidth would not be sufficient for ssl, as the onboard sound which is connect through usb too consumes to much usb bandwidth for ssl to work properly. so I went to the electronic market and bought a pci usb 2.0 controller card, to which I have now connect my ssl and it is working flawlessly.

thank you anyway.

does anybody knows why when i play left deck (turntable) and the option for mic record is on recaiving signal ....i have drop outs of left track.....could this b a bad echo from the speakers?......................help

the left side of my serato keeps freezing the whole program. it only acts up on one side. is this more likely to be problem with the program(1.7.4) or a problem with the serato cds...

Has anyone seen the diagonal line like this? I have seen a few threads talking about a bad ground. I re-grounded the wire to nearly everything and it will get better and worse. It will get better when I touch the ground wire to the back of the serato box. It has been bad to the point of me not being able to use that turntable for the rest of the night. It is only with the 1 turntable (1210 MK II). I have a gig tonight and would love to get it fixed ASAP.

Thanks for your help

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im pretty sure its a bad conection with ur needle cartridge and its various connections. I could be wrong. Did u try a different catridge on the turntable?

swizzle,

think it shows that one channel is getting a low siginal compared to the other channel, as if the channel was completely dead (i.e. no signal) then it would be a vertical or horizontal depending on which channel was out.

like prizo said ... check/clean the connections for the headshell/cart and even the RCA connections from the turntable

Looks like mono, as if the L or R signal goes to both L and R. So instead of L/R it's L/L or R/R.

yep bartaug is right, somewhere along the line your signals are summing to mono, or close to it.

Ok..So I finally got my ssl. Installed the software that came with it,1.7 on a Compaq laptop. I got the expected results as I am using Pioneer CDJ 800's good and round. The Old Lady wanted her laptop back so I installed ver 1.8 on my Dell Laptop. Went to the set up page didn't expect to find a green square on each channel instead of the circles I found previously. Is this normal to ver 1.8? Played the time code cd's after loading a file and all seemed to be ok.

Duh!!! Dumb am I...Gotta go turn it from Phono to line for it to work!!!DUH!!!

That screen shot needs to be put in the "Scope reading and fixes" part of the documentation. I had the same problem once and I checked the images to look for one like that and it wasn't there, and it did take me a while to figure out the phono thing.

-E

Hey guys!

so the problem is i keep getting a green square on my right deck. i get the "digital noise" even when the tone arm and stylus are idle. ive re-calibrated and upped the usb buffer size already, but still no avail. ive cleaned my stylus and the control vinyl as well but still i get the garbled noise.

do you guys think i should get professional help for this and if so where would i go?


thankx,


berxxx

sorry guys, the problem is solved. there is a switch on the back of my table (stanton t.80) to go back and forth between line and phono, and it was on line instead of phono. sorry to bother anyone!


mario

no problem :-)

I NEED SOME SEROUS HELP!!


When i open my ssl and go to set up there should be those to green circles. On mine it just shows up as two green dots. But the music still plays fine. How do i get those to show up as circles?
Please help

I also have another question. can i play regular records with my serato scratch live box plugged in?


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Hi DJ ELL,

please start a new thread with your problem details, so we can keep this thread tidy.

- Josh

Hey everyone...First time poster, long time user.

Thursday night, I connected to the interface like usual at the club. As I placed the needles on the vinyl for a sound check, left channel sounds good. BUT, the right channel was playing @ half speed. The only way for the track to be played at full speed was to push the "45" speed button on the turntable. Since the club had to go on, I settled for playing like this for the night. I figured the interface box went bad. Anyhow, the following night, I connected to the interface at another club (different interface box, different turntable), and the same thing happened. The only way I could play was to have the right turntable at "45" speed. I now have come to the conclusion that it is NOT the interface box. Two different boxes, same outcome. So can someone help?

DJ Mikey O
Los Angeles, CA

OOPS, dont respond to this post anyone... I'll dreate a new discussion for this problem... Answer there. Thanks

All i get is a large square that covers the outside rim of the scope display what do you make of this?

sounds like; scratchlive.net

line level into phono input

Here's a screen shot of a scope display that i have on my right deck.. i can't seem to match it with any of the displays on the scratchlive page.... i30.tinypic.com

can anyone help me out?? thanks :]

I have never seen this type of scope fresher, hopefuly someone else can help you sory m8:(

I had a similar scope fresher, but it was due to a dusty needle....nothing complex!

I have a vertical line on my diagram. I am new to serato and pretty sure I have connected everything correctly and have new needles and new vynals. just dont know what else it can be. thx.

Hi, this is ist posting so I hope I'm going about it the right way. I recently acquired the mp4 to run with my denon hd2500. The pc I 1st tried using was an hp pavilion and not for hell the darn thing world not allow to do anthing in midi mode. At 1st I thought it was a serato or hd2500 problem until I tried working with another pc (also xp). Any idea why some pc are unable to recognize my me in midi mode?

thanks
RASpect!

Hi mazzmix, please start a new thread with your question so the support team can help you faster. Thanks!

I forgot to tell you guys, that scope I posted about 2 months ago, it was because I had a messed up needle! I had it replaced :]

Check your electric source!
I have this gig that I play every week which makes things sound like a bad ground or a bad needle and makes the scope look really messed up at times. It only happens at this venue. Their electric is pretty dirty I am sure of now...
Just an FYI, in case you can't find any other culprits.

I played a whole gig with this ... ppl thought i had all new crazy distorted tracks. Bwahahaha (playing scratch live control into phono input)

I realised 15 minutes before end of show (had about 2 hours of problems BEFORE starting to play so when I started, just gave up on trying to correct Serato issue lol) .. and played 2x tunes normally. Hahaha

What about the short diagonal lines? It's on both decks. Everything works fine even though I get some nasty low sounds even though it doesnt look like the deck is moving (it sounds worse than the normal sound when you have the vibration and you see the waveforms moving slightly). I'm in a quiet environment. Everything works fine but I can't drop it to cue points. I'm sure this will be fine when I start up again, but I would like to know what it is so I can fix it if it ever happens live.

Diagonal lines indicate that the signal coming from the decks has been mono-ed.

Are you using turntables or CD decks?

Turntables.. its a shorter diagonal line than in the example though. Much shorter. I checked the connections to the Serato box.

Click the estimate button with the platter stopped and make sure PHONO is selected within the hardware tab of the setup screen.

Yeah I did both of those, even manually adjusted estimate. I switched to line then back to phono in case something was wrong.

This morning, the problem was gone. I had this problem with a new mixer that I'm not gonna use anymore, and I never had it before. Hopefully it never happens again haha.

Am playing off CDJ 1000. On 1 of my players I get a clean circle with solid lines no problem. On the other I get a squished circle. The lines are solid though. Here is an example of what it looks like

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Please help!!!!

how clean are your cd's?

Does swapping control discs have any affect?

Does swapping CD decks cause the weird circle to swap sides?

Hello,
I would appreciate any info regarding two questions I have.

1- Can I juggle using both CD and vinyl with Serato? I have 2 Denon 3500's and 2 Technic 1200's. I would like to juggle between both vinyl and CD decks with SERATO using all time codes provided? There is only input for 2 channels on the interface. Is this possible?

2 - Will cue points save onto a flash drive if I were to copy music files that I've created cue points for and show up on another Serato users laptop even if I have a PC and the other Serato user has a MAC??

Thank you!

Please check the private message I sent you.

Hi I have a 57sl mixer and when i received it and set it up. The scope signals were so small that i had to jack it up to 16X to even see a small signal. my records are not sensitive at all when i am doing scribbles the wave forms just stay there stopped. I have a show tomorrow and need to have everything running correct. Can anyone help???

2 technic 1200s
ttm-57sl mixer
any needle it happens

perhaps checking the dipswitches in back, make sure they are on PHONO.

no the dipswitches are all on line..

I too have seen this before on other DJ's setups. It's strange. I believe it has to do with the turntable.

Hi every one i have this problem that just started with my SL1 set up, every time it seems when i fire up my macbook i lose most of my bpms, i have to rescan my id3 tags, can you guys tell me what im doing wrong? Any and all help is appreciated! Thanks!

Alex, please search the forum or start a new thread on the HELP area of this forum. Situations similar to yours have been discussed many times. This thread has nothing to do with your problem.

Thanks man.

Hi Alex, what BIS said - please post your issue in a new thread and we can sort out your problem there :)

In fact, I think its time this thread got locked, to encourage people to start new threads.
To start a new thread click here: serato.com
or here: scratchlive.net
(depending on what website you are using)

Thanks Guys

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