Hey Henry,

Of the top of my head the first thing I would check is that the Flex FX button is not turned on for the side with low volume and that the Flex FX mix level knob is turned all the way up.
Also, an obvious suggestion but worth mentioning, make sure the eqs, filter knobs, and gains are the same for both pgm 1 and pgm 2.

If your still having issues I would ask if you hear this volume drop in your headphones.

Let me know:)

but the volume came back back up and tapped the slider.. thats what im saying. i didnt touch anything slide the fader back and then hit the slider(channel 2)

Does it matter what deck you are instant doubling too or does it always sound quieter regardless of which virtual deck you use?

nope its always channel 2

the few times that its happened its always been when i slid the fader over to channel 2

In the software DJ FX section, is anything turned on or is deck 2 assigned?

yeah but to filters... and i been doing this since ive had the rane 68.

I'd create a short video showing what your seeing.
I'm having a hard time visualizing not to mention it would be good to see the settings on your mixer and in the software.
Show footage of the DJ FX section as well.
Hopefully that will help shed some light on what is going on.

will do. it hasnt happened in a while so idk. but next time it does i will whip out the iphone and record it..

Hi Henry I have also noticed this problem. I use channel 1 & 4 . I make sure the levels are all the same and I do notice even though its the same song the audio is lower when I switch. I still use this at the venue where I dj at because I know people are too drunk to notice, dont really pay attention to adio levels. Then again the difference is not a big significance but I can tell. Being an AV guy its annoying to be able to tell.
Hope to hear a fallow up on this and see if its a defect or something. I know I got to send my mixer back in again because the loop roll button is broken or stuck ? and ive never used it. I just recently wash told how to use it to do build ups and was like :-o
I would check all the other buttons, post cross fader switches, all the channels to make sure it works with cdj's or turntables.

yeah its very significant for me!!!

its almost going in half... half the volume

Wow that is a big issue

nope never had this issue with 68

However ther was a bug with autogain in SL a while back that was doing this with instant doubles.

If this happens double check that both tracks in SL have gain at same position and meters report same level in software....id take a bet that its a SL bug and not your mixer.

Henry, did you ever experience this issue with the SL4?
I have never had this issue on either 68 or SL4...

nope

and it has soemthing to do with the slider. when it happens i i have to tap the upfader hard to make it come back to life...

i know this is low tech, but maybe something (food, plastic, chronic) fell in the slider. try a burst of compressed air in there.

will do =]

I've had the same problem both with the SL1 and the 68.
Somewhere I've got recordings of my sets where it happened a couple of times. I'm actually very suprised this hasnt been experienced or talked about more because i've had this for a long time and its very hard to pinpoint any reason or trigger.

I've had it at random times and some of th worst times have been right in the middle of a 4 hour set. lol.

What Henry is saying is sometimes when you load a track, the volume dips to pretty much half. Doesnt matter whether the x-fader is open or closed it seems to have nothing to do with gains in the software or hardware.

It's like the overall headroom of the hardware drops, or the only other possibility I can think is some kinda phase cancellation. I hadn't actually clocked that it could be to do with instant double mode, I often switch all kinds of settings on and off while I'm doing a set if I need to fix something on the fly without really noting anything so I'll keep an eye/ear out to see if that could be it.

I don't really know it is very odd and intermittent and non-specific to any particular hardware (which means it could be software related?)

BTW
I use a macbook pro at gigs, always have, and this has happened on a few different computers too

Hope we can capture this little gremlin and chain him to a pair of faulty turntables in a sweaty heaving mega club

Sorry, to clarify: the overall audio drops by half on all channels when the track is loaded onto the other (not playing) deck.


Henry is it only with a double of the same song or has it happened even when any song is loaded? I can't remember because it's not happened for a few months but I will check my recordings

Maybe it's a result of phasing?

nope no phasing.

it happens when i load a new track as well.. but its just every once in a while. i truly believe it has somethign to do with the channels. now that im 3&4 it has not happened once.. and it sounds ten million times better witht he clarirty

Hey Henry that thing just started happening to me too :(
Only on pgm2 (I always use 1 & 2) and 4 for the sampler
the sound be droppin like mad crazy, off course I dont have the flex fx turned down or anything) and I noticed like u that jiggling the fader brings the volume back up. damn! will unscrew the fader platter n see if theres any junk in there tomorrow....
Zach, I didnt mess with any fx internal or onboard at all, kinda hard to video it though as it happens randomly, but quite often actually since tonight

A video would be very helpful here.

If this is, in fact, happening with an SL1 then its not going to be an issue with the Sixty Eight.

??? I didnt get that Zach?
Its happening with the 68, no SL1 involved here.

Quote from Harry Love:

oh ok my bad.
well to clarify my case on the 68, it has nothing to do with instant double, it just happen randomly. I'm thinking the upfader being dead

Is this happening all the time at this point Res?

not all the time, if it was I would easily shoot a video for you. happened twice only tonight

I didnt have the chance to open the fader case, I wanna thoroughly troubleshoot, so I'm thinking of swapping the fader #2 with the fader #3 and see if it happens again. what do u think?

Ya that would be a good test for a faulty fader.

ok will do that asap and keep you posted, anything in particular I must be warned of or pay attention to when I'll do this?

Henry, did u ever find out whats causing this on your end?

Hold up on doing that Res. I am going to check with our engineers when they get in.
I'll post my findings asap:)

ok Zach; it didnt happen tonight so I really dont know.... but it happened quite a lot last friday, and a couple days ago.
If anything I can switch to playing main decks on 3 and 4 for now until i troubleshoot, so no biggie.

So.. I spoke with Trevor about this and he's not sure what would be causing that.
At this point go ahead and swap faders.
The 1/2 faders are connected to one board and the 3/4 faders are connected to another board.
So.. swap the 1/2 fader board in place with the 3/4 fader board and see if the problem still exists.

ya i found the same thing.. when i wiggle the fader it comes back :(]


but now i switched to channels 3 & 4 so i dont have the problem no more

Henry can you do a test please:
- does it happen if you play cds? I noticed it never happened when the club has cds playing when its open as a bar before I come in. Kinda weird.

Hey guys.. can you list the serial number of your units?

I'm trying to look into this issue.

(21) 00732763
06-10 RoHS

Thanks Res.
Henry?
Harry?

hey.. sorry the mixer at the club, i will post when i pickit up bro. but it should be listed in my profile? not sure if u can look it up ?

Right.. got it Henry. Thanks:)
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oops sorry. just got back in the thread. thank u Zach!

We're gonna have Res send in his mixer again and get to the bottom of this issue.
We'll let you know what we find once we find it:)

ya i wish i could send mine in, but once i do... i cant dj.. nto sure how long i can borrow other peoples stuff ;/

right... blame it on having to send in a mixer








=)
j/k
you know I had to.

yea yea.. fucker. lol

i hate borrowing shit from my friends. but i may have to

=)


I'm with you on that...not to big on loaning my shit out either... that hardly ever turns out well.

hey Zach sorry for the long delay, I just swapped the faders 1-2 with 2-3; I will test it thoroughly all week long and will let u know

Thanks for the update Res:)

Zach, cant u just send me another 68 while mine is being fixed?


i'll say the magic word.... please

I wish I could:)

lol. dang!

update on my case Zach, (i know its been a while but I wanted to wait and see if the fader swap worked on the long term). It worked so I am good for now thx for the tip.

Hm.. so it would appear to be an issue with your number 2 fader?
Now that you swapped faders... Do you now experience the issue on channel 3 or 4?

yep on channel 4 when I use the sampler on this output.