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Feedback about the new design

Serato
dave 3:10 AM - 29 September, 2011
With the launch of Serato DJ Intro, we've updated the website tone a little (colors, fonts, etc).

Check out Serato DJ Intro here: serato.com

Let us know your thoughts about the new design below.
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Dj Shamann 7:15 AM - 29 September, 2011
I'm color blind and certain color combos wreak havoc on my eyes. I'm having issues focusing with the new colors and fonts, couldn't you guys offer a skin selection rather than going with one or the other?
skinnyguy 7:16 AM - 29 September, 2011
Agh! The blue! My eyes!



J/k. I love the color change. Much easier on my eyes.
Sureshot (PA) 7:28 AM - 29 September, 2011
love it.
nik39 7:33 AM - 29 September, 2011
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I love the color change. Much easier on my eyes.

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Dj Shamann 7:37 AM - 29 September, 2011
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I love the color change. Much easier on my eyes.


Exact opposite for me, i can'tt see what's going on. My eyes are darting all over the palce on their own, I think my posting days here are done (not a whiny threat, a diapointed posibilty)
DJMark 7:39 AM - 29 September, 2011
This is a huge improvement.

Yellow was rather unique, but there were reasons for that. I won't miss it at all.
DJ Dynamite - NJ 7:48 AM - 29 September, 2011
Color change is ok but the home page.... not so ok
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Dj Shamann 8:08 AM - 29 September, 2011
Hey dave, here's the screenshots. I'm on Win 7 with Google Chrome.

The color shades are too diffcult for my eyes to work out in contrast with each other (thread title vs. unread thred color), and then add the odd shaped fonts all crooked it's a nightmare for me.
DJBIGWIZ 8:20 AM - 29 September, 2011
don't like it
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dave 8:21 AM - 29 September, 2011
Thanks Shamann, that is a bit wonky. We did miles of testing on this and that didn't show up.

It's the end of a loooooooooong day / week / month here so we'll talk about this tomorrow.
Serato
dave 8:21 AM - 29 September, 2011
Hey Wiz, anything in particular that you don't like?
SeriousCyrus 8:22 AM - 29 September, 2011
Something is wrong with the fonts. the text on the DJ intro page looks terrible, the "i"s and "k"s, among others, have almost aliased themselves out of existence. The text looks blocky and untidy.

Windows 2K, Firefox 3.6.12
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Dj Shamann 8:27 AM - 29 September, 2011
Thanks Dave and I totally understand that sometimes these things may get missed when putting in the overtime.

Thanks for looking into it.
LJ_WOOLSEY 8:42 AM - 29 September, 2011
On my mobile phone your website looks like a train reck! Infact its the worst websote i have ever viewed on my phone! Fonts are crazy menu bars links bits of the page size you name it its all over the place. Very shocking did a school child make these changes WOW full of bugs were can i view the old site? Lol the forum is fine tho!
boabmatic 8:46 AM - 29 September, 2011
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Something is wrong with the fonts. the text on the DJ intro page looks terrible, the "i"s and "k"s, among others, have almost aliased themselves out of existence. The text looks blocky and untidy.

Windows 2K, Firefox 3.6.12


its the same on chrome ver 14.0.835.186 on windows 7
Serato, Forum Moderator
Eru G 8:51 AM - 29 September, 2011
Hey Woolsey,

Our websites have never officially been supported on small screen devices. We state which browsers our websites aim to work correctly on in the FAQ section of our website: serato.com

In saying that, we do try to make our websites at least useable on as many devices as possible. Could you please let me know what type of phone and browser you're using - please try be as specific as you can - also, if you could attach a few screenshots to this thread, that would be very helpful and totally awesome.

Cheers
deejaysomething 8:56 AM - 29 September, 2011
I like the colour scheme, but the front page is a real chore; up until yesterday I could arrive at serato.com and immediately see what was happening in my tracked discussions on the forum, as well as being guaranteed to see any front page news.

I thought we were past the days of the not-helping-me-get-at-the-content splash screen? Feels like a step back to 2002. Looks very nice though, I guess.
BattleFunk 8:59 AM - 29 September, 2011
Firefox is up to version 7 and you wonder why its not working right?

Time for an update I reckon ;-)

Love the blue, the calming colour might stop some of the catty fucking haters on here :-D

The forum never resizes correctly for me on an Android phone and I have to scroll sideways to read posts in full fyi
Laz219 9:08 AM - 29 September, 2011
Looks really strange to me at the moment, give me 15 minutes and it'll be back to normal though. Just gotta give some time to get used to it.

The brighter yellow when it first moved to serato.com did feel a little bright. Blue is good.
LJ_WOOLSEY 9:09 AM - 29 September, 2011
Haha in a world where ppl use small screen phones netbooks tablets ect more than in hostory serato is only website going backwards! Wow thats bad news hope this dont happen to your software aswell. Thanks for making serato.com useless. I mean djs only need to use your website when they have an issue and have there mobile on them!
Rant over back on topic lol

Windows Phone 7 Internet explorer HTC HD7 ow and cant do screen shots on this phone :(
DJDeluchi 9:23 AM - 29 September, 2011
i love it guys it looks fantastic great work
DJ Dub Cowboy 9:51 AM - 29 September, 2011
I don't like the blue, but I do like the new fonts.

I would be GREAT if we could select blue OR yellow in our preferences.
Serato
adrian w 9:52 AM - 29 September, 2011
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Haha in a world where ppl use small screen phones netbooks tablets ect more than in hostory serato is only website going backwards! Wow thats bad news hope this dont happen to your software aswell. Thanks for making serato.com useless. I mean djs only need to use your website when they have an issue and have there mobile on them!
Rant over back on topic lol

Windows Phone 7 Internet explorer HTC HD7 ow and cant do screen shots on this phone :(

Hi LJ_WOOLSEY,

Despite the high use of mobile phones these days, the actual visiting stats of mobile phones to our site is only an extremely small fraction of the traffic we get, so we have to prioritize what we put the effort into. Rest assured we have plans to make a proper dedicated mobile site in the future.
LJ_WOOLSEY 10:11 AM - 29 September, 2011
Really that does supprise me. Oh well just have to save the forum link on me phone so i can get to the forums. Will see what the home page is like when im on an old computer lol and see what its ment to look like and see how awsome itis lol

As for the forum yellow blue pink multi colour who gives a f##k as long as we can get and see help and advise thats all that maters!
Mr Wilks 10:20 AM - 29 September, 2011
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Firefox is up to version 7 and you wonder why its not working right?

Time for an update I reckon ;-)

Love the blue, the calming colour might stop some of the catty fucking haters on here :-D

The forum never resizes correctly for me on an Android phone and I have to scroll sideways to read posts in full fyi


Agreed with the Android having to scroll.

Blue is looking good and the fonts are great. It's an 100% improvement in my book and so much easier.

Remember the fuss caused when scratchlive.net closed and the bright yellow was discussed?
radikarl 10:31 AM - 29 September, 2011
i liked yellow better.
i think this is a brilliant move to have everyone reckon there is a new product "Serato DJ Intro"
but to be honest i would prefer if it went back to yellow in a week or two.
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gevola 10:37 AM - 29 September, 2011
text is not clear ... I'm using FireFox 6.0.2 / WinXP SP3 ..
See the picture attached.
boabmatic 10:53 AM - 29 September, 2011
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Something is wrong with the fonts. the text on the DJ intro page looks terrible, the "i"s and "k"s, among others, have almost aliased themselves out of existence. The text looks blocky and untidy.

Windows 2K, Firefox 3.6.12


its the same on chrome ver 14.0.835.186 on windows 7


forum font looks good on iphone with safari browser, but if you land on serato.com you are stuck there as the 'hover' over serato logo isn't possible on the phone. Once you type /product the website looks ok.

forgot to say I don't mind the blue colour scheme
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adrian w 11:03 AM - 29 September, 2011
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if you land on serato.com you are stuck there as the 'hover' over serato logo isn't possible on the phone.

boabmatic: You should be able to click/double click the Serato logo on your iPhone to get the nav :-)
Couin 11:14 AM - 29 September, 2011
serato.com displays just the logo and a spinning deck for me. I thought spinning deck was a way to indicate a flash area loading (like please wait), but seems not (and please, do not add flash area on the website), flash is heavy.
If it is the definitive page, it's not good. Most people will wait for after spiing deck or leave the website directly.
And for finish, I find the colors too sad in regard with previous color scheme.
Choosing color scheme in the profil settings could be better.
Serato
adrian w 11:23 AM - 29 September, 2011
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serato.com displays just the logo and a spinning deck for me. I thought spinning deck was a way to indicate a flash area loading (like please wait), but seems not (and please, do not add flash area on the website), flash is heavy.
If it is the definitive page, it's not good. Most people will wait for after spiing deck or leave the website directly.

Hi Couin,
It's not a flash page, but it is some HTML5 videos, what browser and operating system are you using? We have had reports of it not loading for many people yet, but it does take a little extra time to download than average, do depends on your internet connection.
Couin 11:27 AM - 29 September, 2011
Hi Adrian,

I use FireFox 4 on a XP SP3 machine :)
boabmatic 11:28 AM - 29 September, 2011
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if you land on serato.com you are stuck there as the 'hover' over serato logo isn't possible on the phone.

boabmatic: You should be able to click/double click the Serato logo on your iPhone to get the nav :-)


Hi Adrian, yip its working, think I was trying it before the page was fully loaded , got a low 3G signal at work so was taking a bit longer for the page to load up.
Serato
adrian w 11:36 AM - 29 September, 2011
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I use FireFox 4 on a XP SP3 machine :)

I'd recommend upgrading Firefox if you can, whilst 4 isn't that old, Mozilla are making some big steps forward in features and versions (all be it a little too quick perhaps) having released 7 this week. We tested back to Firefox 5 but site stats say very very few of our users are on anything earlier than that. I'll look into it in a bit further detail, but if you can upgrade, I'd recommend it for the optimum experience.
Serato
adrian w 11:36 AM - 29 September, 2011
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Hi Adrian, yip its working, think I was trying it before the page was fully loaded , got a low 3G signal at work so was taking a bit longer for the page to load up.

Thanks boabmatic, yep it'll definitely be a bit slow on a 3G connection. Hope you like it though, it's something pretty new and different but we're really happy with it!
boabmatic 11:50 AM - 29 September, 2011
My bookmarks take me straight to the forum so I wouldn't have noticed it if it wasn't for this thread :)
Couin 12:04 PM - 29 September, 2011
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serato.com displays just the logo and a spinning deck for me. I thought spinning deck was a way to indicate a flash area loading (like please wait), but seems not (and please, do not add flash area on the website), flash is heavy.
If it is the definitive page, it's not good. Most people will wait for after spiing deck or leave the website directly.

Hi Couin,
It's not a flash page, but it is some HTML5 videos, what browser and operating system are you using? We have had reports of it not loading for many people yet, but it does take a little extra time to download than average, do depends on your internet connection.
Nothing better after upgrading to FF7.0 .
Cheers
Papa Midnight 1:23 PM - 29 September, 2011
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I use FireFox 4 on a XP SP3 machine :)

I'd recommend upgrading Firefox if you can, whilst 4 isn't that old, Mozilla are making some big steps forward in features and versions (all be it a little too quick perhaps) having released 7 this week. We tested back to Firefox 5 but site stats say very very few of our users are on anything earlier than that. I'll look into it in a bit further detail, but if you can upgrade, I'd recommend it for the optimum experience.

Not to mention the immense security holes (which were not native to Firefox 4 alone - but widespread across all browsers) which Mozilla has long since repaired since retiring the Firefox 4 line.

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...anything in particular that you don't like?

The color scheme is actually quite pleasant to me. I think, however, that I preferred the old font set to the present one. While it doesn't make a difference when I browse here from my tablet (which will use the font it's set to irregardless, on my PC it's kinda like I'm browsing from my Linux OS but a bit awkwardly, like the font had been slightly broken in some manner. In example, the letter "i" is aliased beyond necessity.
blackavenger 2:01 PM - 29 September, 2011
I love it.....easier on the eyes, especially in the dark!
dj_KaSE 2:08 PM - 29 September, 2011
No likey. Bring yellow back.
blackavenger 2:11 PM - 29 September, 2011
Serato need to make a poll....allow for only one submission per IP address. That will gauge where the forum members stand. Make it a sticky at the top of every forum.
LJ_WOOLSEY 2:21 PM - 29 September, 2011
Well got home and the website font is WORSE on a computer uploading screen shot below. im on IE 9 all upto date on windows 7
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marcA 2:26 PM - 29 September, 2011
hate the font!
echa1945mf 2:37 PM - 29 September, 2011
much easier on the eyes , loving it ....... if only you guys have a mobile version that goes nicely with blackberry browser ... or even a blackberry launcher :D
boabmatic 2:39 PM - 29 September, 2011
font looks great on win7 with safari after you goto preferences-> appearance -> font smoothing - Medium best for flat screen.
DJ Young Herrera 2:41 PM - 29 September, 2011
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I'm color blind and certain color combos wreak havoc on my eyes. I'm having issues focusing with the new colors and fonts, couldn't you guys offer a skin selection rather than going with one or the other?


Same here. My eyes can't are really struggling to focus.

Actually, it's really bothersome.
marcA 2:50 PM - 29 September, 2011
i don't see the point of using a font where some character are smaller than the others
the f for example is kinda floating while w k i are shrinked crippled versions
heck look at shrinked, do you really find it that easy to read?
dj cubicle 2:52 PM - 29 September, 2011
Half of the letters don't even show up dark enough. i H Y are all really light, while the curve in the D is dark, but the vertical line is light. Awful.

Google Chrome 13.0.782.41 beta-m
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Dj Shamann 2:56 PM - 29 September, 2011
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as we can get and see help and advise thats all that maters!



Yeah that's the point, some of us CAN'T see
LJ_WOOLSEY 3:08 PM - 29 September, 2011
the font looks wobbley its like a halloween font!
Musically Minded 3:12 PM - 29 September, 2011
i like it, way better than the yellow, but the font does need a little work!

keep up the good work serato!
skratchworx 3:18 PM - 29 September, 2011
Given the sheer amount of anger and frustration displayed in recent times, a more calming green scheme would be better. But I do love this new version anyway.
sixxx 3:28 PM - 29 September, 2011
JUST GET RID OF THE OUTLINE around the avatars and you're good to go.
cotdagoo 3:37 PM - 29 September, 2011
Interesting choices... now that this important business is taken care of, can we get a flipping update to SSL that doesn't have gain bugs anymore?
Ragman 4:10 PM - 29 September, 2011
^ Different developers...
Ragman 4:12 PM - 29 September, 2011
The website color/font is okay. Like Giz mentioned a more calming color scheme would have been cool, but this ain't bad. ;-)
cotdagoo 4:18 PM - 29 September, 2011
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^ Different developers...

Different priorities too.. push out that new product and make the forum pretty rather than fix a well known bug that's been around since betas of 2.3
2Seven 4:48 PM - 29 September, 2011
I'm using Chrome and the font doesn't show right....some letters barely showing up unless I zoom in x3 more than what I'm used to and that's sillily zoomed!

Other than that I like the colour. Just change the font
2Seven 4:57 PM - 29 September, 2011
Also whilst browsing through the forum, I'm finding it incredibly frustrating distinguishing between threads I've posted in from threads I'm tracking.

Oh forgot to mention, I'm using Chrome
babooza69 5:05 PM - 29 September, 2011
good color scheme but font is terrible, it looks pixelated
tomatoslice 5:36 PM - 29 September, 2011
harder to read.

don't know if it is the color scheme or the font

preferred the previous version.
tomatoslice 5:37 PM - 29 September, 2011
btw if you are going to make changes, why wouldn't you make one at a time?
therefore making it a bit easier to see what changes have affect over others and pinpoint exact issues.
Ragman 5:51 PM - 29 September, 2011
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I'm using Chrome and the font doesn't show right....some letters barely showing up unless I zoom in x3 more than what I'm used to and that's sillily zoomed! [...]

Same here on Chrome...
Logisticalstyles 6:03 PM - 29 September, 2011
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the font looks wobbley its like a halloween font!


In IE 8: Tools -> Internet Options -> General Tab -> Accessibility-> Ignore font styles, and sizes.

You can also ignore the color and everything is white.
DJ Young Herrera 6:13 PM - 29 September, 2011
I'm blu da bu di da bu du ba da bu di da bu du da bu di da bu du.
DJ CAPRO 6:16 PM - 29 September, 2011
I think everything looks stellar (on a mac).

I work as a senior graphic designer for a ad agency and personally i'm very impressed.
dj cubicle 6:23 PM - 29 September, 2011
^ Then you obviously don't test on multiple platforms. This is awful.
DJ CAPRO 6:25 PM - 29 September, 2011
yeah as i said (on a mac)
LJ_WOOLSEY 6:29 PM - 29 September, 2011
Wana go on serato.com then buy a mac lol
DJ CAPRO 6:39 PM - 29 September, 2011
^ call it a prelude
Serato
adrian w 6:44 PM - 29 September, 2011
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^ Then you obviously don't test on multiple platforms. This is awful.

We've tested it across a lot of platforms, particularly those that 90 - 95% of our users are on however this has obviously brought to our attention some font issues which we'll totally look into. The feedback is welcomed!
Couin 6:55 PM - 29 September, 2011
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serato.com displays just the logo and a spinning deck for me. I thought spinning deck was a way to indicate a flash area loading (like please wait), but seems not (and please, do not add flash area on the website), flash is heavy.
If it is the definitive page, it's not good. Most people will wait for after spiing deck or leave the website directly.

Hi Couin,
It's not a flash page, but it is some HTML5 videos, what browser and operating system are you using? We have had reports of it not loading for many people yet, but it does take a little extra time to download than average, do depends on your internet connection.

I just tested at work, it runs ok, with FF4.0 . So perhaps a module is needed ?
Dj Wunder 6:55 PM - 29 September, 2011
I woke up today and jumped on the forums. I was greeted with 2 things, and wasn't happy about either of them.

1. The forum boards have cancer. They whole site is dead and lifeless and...ashy. I hate it, like a visceral hate. Couldn't this change just be some sort of option? That warm yellow and red Serato board was like, "ahh I'm home". Not to mention it looked good everywhere I viewed it, including my smartphone.

2. Serato Intro. What. A. F*******. Waste. Of. Resources.
skinnyguy 7:08 PM - 29 September, 2011
looks exactly the same on my phone (and that's a good thing). i'm using a sprint evo with dolphin browser.
Dj Wunder 7:12 PM - 29 September, 2011
Nice I use the Dolphin browser as well on the Epic.

On another note, that HTML5 intro for Serato Intro is pretty snazzy, I wish SSL got a treatment like that.
DJ LIL M 7:41 PM - 29 September, 2011
The blue could be a lil darker and a better font.
casket hands 7:45 PM - 29 September, 2011
terrrrrrible font. very hard to see vertical lines in any of the upright letters.
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Eru G 7:52 PM - 29 September, 2011
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JUST GET RID OF THE OUTLINE around the avatars and you're good to go.

Hey sixxx,

Thanks - this one was a genuine oversight - fixed.

I'm looking at the font issues you guys have mentioned - by the looks of things, mostly effects IE 8 and below. Could those of you using Windows please let me know whether you have the same "font stepping" problems on the following pages?

* This page
* Main header navigation
* Scratch Live products page: serato.com
* DJ Intro products page: serato.com

We use the same font in different font sizes and weights, so it'd be good to know whether it's mostly an issue in the forum or more widespread than that.
casket hands 7:56 PM - 29 September, 2011
font for me is stepping drastically on this page and but none of the other 3 places you've mentioned. I'm on chrome 16
casket hands 7:58 PM - 29 September, 2011
lower case f is still a little funny everywhere though.
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casket hands 8:08 PM - 29 September, 2011
and vertical lines in chrome, for instance on the scratch live products page, disappear on the smaller font sizes.
DJ Young Herrera 9:29 PM - 29 September, 2011
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ
abcdefghijlkmnopqrstuvwxyz
`1234567890-=
~!@#$%^&*()_+
[]\;',./{}|:"<>?

Aweful.
DJ Dub Cowboy 9:33 PM - 29 September, 2011
Things look good with the font in safari 5
gevola 9:41 PM - 29 September, 2011
yes .. fine with MAC and Safari 5 .. but NOT in winXP and FireFox 6.0.2
Couin 9:48 PM - 29 September, 2011
All is ulgy, fonts with differents size between letters and others... colors are sad, the star drawn before the title , for thread where I posted, in near from invisible when new messages...
Please, leave us the choice to stay with previous scheme in our profile.
Dj Wunder 9:56 PM - 29 September, 2011
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All is ulgy, fonts with differents size between letters and others... colors are sad, the star drawn before the title , for thread where I posted, in near from invisible when new messages...
Please, leave us the choice to stay with previous scheme in our profile.


+1
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I1Kirm 10:08 PM - 29 September, 2011
I attached 3 screenshots from 3 different browsers. My system is a Lenovo t500 running windows 7 x64.
DJ Stoyvo 11:03 PM - 29 September, 2011
What's going on? I don't like it lol. The Blue is sooooooooo wack.

Also, the home page has a problem... the bottom row is cut off? And roll-over images are bugging out in some spots
Serato
adrian w 11:10 PM - 29 September, 2011
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Also, the home page has a problem... the bottom row is cut off? And roll-over images are bugging out in some spots

Hi DJ Stoyvo,
What browser and operating system are you using? Do you have a screenshot we could look at? Thanks.
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Swizzle 12:48 AM - 30 September, 2011
Here are a couple screenshots.
ninos 12:58 AM - 30 September, 2011
love the change! keep it!:)
Serato, Forum Moderator
Eru G 1:14 AM - 30 September, 2011
Hey guys,

We've rolled out some changes that should fix the majority of the font sizing issues on Windows. There may still be some places where the font will behave a little weirdly (particularly at smaller sizes, like in the sidebar etc.) so please let us know if you see anything else.

Cheers
Dj Wunder 2:08 AM - 30 September, 2011
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Hey guys,

We've rolled out some changes that should fix the majority of the font sizing issues on Windows. There may still be some places where the font will behave a little weirdly (particularly at smaller sizes, like in the sidebar etc.) so please let us know if you see anything else.

Cheers


I don't see the "Return to old theme" option
Ragman 3:27 AM - 30 September, 2011
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Here are a couple screenshots.

I can't open any attachment on Chrome or IE8. Anyone else having this problem?
DJ LIL M 3:44 AM - 30 September, 2011
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Here are a couple screenshots.

I can't open any attachment on Chrome or IE8. Anyone else having this problem?
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DJ Dac 4:51 AM - 30 September, 2011
sigh, fb changed, that is still annoying - to much change in a short period, but honestly not a big fan of the blue and the font on the side bar is still super tiny. My main gripe is the font type, its to skinny its making me squint and straining my eyes way to much, also the big and little letters make me think we are chatting with 15 year old teeny bobbers, no offence ninos...

(firefox- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.2.22) Gecko/20110902 Firefox/3.6.22 ( .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET4.0C)) for what its worth.
DJ Dub Cowboy 4:54 AM - 30 September, 2011
blue on blue is rough

I miss the contrast of yellow and red
DJ Dub Cowboy 4:55 AM - 30 September, 2011
also this color scheme is aligned with the low end software package, which makes it seem cheap

we all should be striving for Scratch Live quality

I miss the Scratchlive.net theme even more now
DJ Dac 4:57 AM - 30 September, 2011
yellow and red is good enough for mcdonalds and wendys... good enough for us! haha
blackavenger 5:06 AM - 30 September, 2011
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Then maybe make it Orange on Blue?

I like the new Blue, and don't want it to go away.
DJ.Tyme 5:33 AM - 30 September, 2011
i dont like it. the yellow stood out better
DJ.Tyme 5:34 AM - 30 September, 2011
yeah the blu on blu is not kool
Papa Midnight 6:48 AM - 30 September, 2011
I don't know, I kinda like the blue on blue :)
I1Kirm 7:26 AM - 30 September, 2011
The font looks much better now. No more sizing issues (except in the textbox I'm writing write now, you probably forgot to fix that).
boabmatic 8:36 AM - 30 September, 2011
much better in chrome/win7, but as I1kirm said the text box still has issues as well as the user name links.
thedor 1:11 PM - 30 September, 2011
I don't like it.
LJ_WOOLSEY 1:15 PM - 30 September, 2011
ok font is better on my computer now Win7 IE9 but when i goto www.serato.com home page it just freezes and stays on the virtual deck loading symbol. not good.
LJ_WOOLSEY 1:40 PM - 30 September, 2011
Have a look at the screen shot below serato crew i think this looks messy anyway you can clean it up?
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Dj Wunder 4:20 PM - 30 September, 2011
Looks good on my galaxy S android phone with dolphin browser. I have excellent vision so the font isn't a big deal, it's the colour scheme. The colour scheme.
gevola 6:52 PM - 30 September, 2011
after some days here ... old color scheme was better .. more readable.
Serato
adrian w 8:04 PM - 30 September, 2011
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Have a look at the screen shot below serato crew i think this looks messy anyway you can clean it up?

We'll have a look at those descriptions, they were like that before the design changes but there's a few more overlapping now so will look to tidying up as you're right, looks a bit untidy.
DJ.Tyme 8:32 PM - 30 September, 2011
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after some days here ... old color scheme was better .. more readable.

+10,000 please brint back the yellow and red
2Seven 10:55 PM - 30 September, 2011
Don't know if you've made any changes to the font or appearance of...but I still can't see some of the vertical lines
DeezNotes 1:00 PM - 2 October, 2011
Change the whitelabel.net highlight color to match the blue on serato.com for consistency. It's always been hard to tell what's read and what's not on that site.
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Eru G 7:35 PM - 2 October, 2011
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The font looks much better now. No more sizing issues (except in the textbox I'm writing write now, you probably forgot to fix that).

This should be fixed now too - thanks for reporting that, I1Kirm.

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Don't know if you've made any changes to the font or appearance of...but I still can't see some of the vertical lines

Do you have any screenshots/examples 2Seven? - that would be super helpful.
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Dj Wunder 4:29 AM - 3 October, 2011
15" MBP 10.6.8 + Chrome, forum titles running into post counts
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dave 9:35 PM - 3 October, 2011
Thanks Wunder, we're going to tidy those up.
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2Seven 10:35 PM - 3 October, 2011
Chrome + Windows XP Professional.

What Wunder said above (forum titles running into post counts) and the discussion toolbox real difficult to read.

As I'm writing this, I'm finding the font real hard to read as well in the preview box...I'll upload a picture in a second.

I don't have any examples unread threads that I have posted in and don't track showing up odd...I'll try and get a picture of that and all
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DJ.Tyme 12:06 AM - 4 October, 2011
Serato Please Change Back 2 Yellow & Red Please
Papa Midnight 2:28 AM - 4 October, 2011
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Serato Please Change Back 2 Yellow & Red Please

Only under the condition it's offered as an alternative theme. I'm rather liking this blue on blue :)
serkan 6:32 AM - 4 October, 2011
yellow/red +1
blue/blue -1

No blog. Not all options on frontpage.

Before change:
serato.com > click on forum

Now:
serato.com > wait for hover on logo > click anything > click forum
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DJ Young Herrera 6:19 PM - 4 October, 2011
Windows XP Pro
Mozilla Firefox Latest...

Almost unreadable. (file attached.
LJ_WOOLSEY 6:36 PM - 4 October, 2011
home page still dont work for me!!! mega buggy please bring back the home page this new one is shite!
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LJ_WOOLSEY 7:08 PM - 4 October, 2011
also you have to click the ATTACH A FILE button a few times until it opens up. when you first click it about an inch to the left of the button is a flashing black line.
DJ LIL M 7:11 PM - 4 October, 2011
still cant open attach files in chrome
2Seven 7:22 PM - 4 October, 2011
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still cant open attach files in chrome

Are you trying to open files that have been attached or to attach a file yourself?

If you're trying to look at files already uploaded, I can't do that with Chrome or Firefox...something tells me that's intentional.

If you're trying to upload a file have you tried clicking to the left of the 'Attach a file' button?
DJ LIL M 7:58 PM - 4 October, 2011
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trying to look at files already uploaded

in the forums
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Eru G 8:22 PM - 4 October, 2011
serkan - you can still get to the blog from the footer, or you can check it out here: serato.com

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If you're trying to look at files already uploaded, I can't do that with Chrome or Firefox...something tells me that's intentional.

Yep - sorry, but it's intentional :)

Thanks for the screenshots Herrera and Woolsey. Also Woolsey, could you try using the latest version of Firefox or Google Chrome and see if that fixes your home page problem? Just trying to do some troubleshooting here :)

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also you have to click the ATTACH A FILE button a few times until it opens up. when you first click it about an inch to the left of the button is a flashing black line.

This sounds odd - I'll see if I can figure out what's going on here.

Thanks guys
DJ Dac 8:39 PM - 4 October, 2011
you guys know that in fire fox you can just bookmark the forum page as a hot button and skip the entire intro. i had to go to the home page just to see what all the hub bub was about.
LJ_WOOLSEY 8:44 PM - 4 October, 2011
Sorry i am on windows internet explorer 9. and can view everyother website totaly fine just not serato.com

let me know if you need any other info.
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Eru G 9:06 PM - 4 October, 2011
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Sorry i am on windows internet explorer 9. and can view everyother website totaly fine just not serato.com

let me know if you need any other info.

Do you have Google Chrome installed? Can you please try visit Serato.com in Google Chrome and see if you get the same behaviour?
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dave 2:49 AM - 5 October, 2011
We've tidied up the forum listings - no more text overlapping the counts. Thanks to everyone who reported that issue.
DJ.Tyme 3:46 AM - 5 October, 2011
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yellow/red +1
blue/blue -1

No blog. Not all options on frontpage.

Before change:
serato.com > click on forum

Now:
serato.com > wait for hover on logo > click anything > click forum

i feel you 1,000 % on this one hey serato please read change it back please
DJ.Tyme 3:47 AM - 5 October, 2011
just change it back already
LJ_WOOLSEY 3:24 PM - 5 October, 2011
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Sorry i am on windows internet explorer 9. and can view everyother website totaly fine just not serato.com



let me know if you need any other info.


Do you have Google Chrome installed? Can you please try visit Serato.com in Google Chrome and see if you get the same behaviour?

just installed chrome and yes the home page now works. but itis totaly sh*t tobe honist. who the hell is guna watch that crap there going to think there on the wrong site lol.
DJ LIL M 5:11 PM - 5 October, 2011
This first time I saw the new home page. I was like where do I click to go to the forum lol.
LJ_WOOLSEY 5:23 PM - 5 October, 2011
Ok now the forum has stoped auto scrolling to the new posts. Grrrr this new serato web site.
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Eru G 7:42 PM - 5 October, 2011
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just installed chrome and yes the home page now works

Awesome, thanks Woolsey - I think I'm starting to head down the right track now. I think the issue you're having in IE9 is quite isolated - it definitely works in IE9 from our testing.

The screenshot you attached makes me suspect you've got some codec pack installed which IE isn't happy about - hence the weird, non loading behaviour.

Thanks for all your help and patience, it's greatly appreciated :)

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Ok now the forum has stoped auto scrolling to the new posts

As for this, we haven't made any changes that should stop this from working - is this still not working for you? Was that in IE9 or Chrome?

Thanks
DJ Dac 8:34 PM - 5 October, 2011
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Ok now the forum has stoped auto scrolling to the new posts

As for this, we haven't made any changes that should stop this from working - is this still not working for you? Was that in IE9 or Chrome?

Thanks


it has also kinda been doing this with me too with firefox, i have to scroll up a couple posts to get to the first new one.
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adrian w 8:43 PM - 5 October, 2011
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i have to scroll up a couple posts to get to the first new one.

Hi DJ Dac,

That's something that we've just started noticing too. We're pretty sure we have a fix for it so stay tuned.
LJ_WOOLSEY 9:36 PM - 5 October, 2011
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just installed chrome and yes the home page now works


Awesome, thanks Woolsey - I think I'm starting to head down the right track now. I think the issue you're having in IE9 is quite isolated - it definitely works in IE9 from our testing.



The screenshot you attached makes me suspect you've got some codec pack installed which IE isn't happy about - hence the weird, non loading behaviour.



Thanks for all your help and patience, it's greatly appreciated :)



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Ok now the forum has stoped auto scrolling to the new posts


As for this, we haven't made any changes that should stop this from working - is this still not working for you? Was that in IE9 or Chrome?



Thanks

This is on the new update to windows phone 7.5 it has IE9 so could just be something with that i supose.

keep up the hardwork its getting there.

oh and i installed the things you need to install for video sl on my laptop so could be them messing it up?
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:32 PM - 5 October, 2011
***Staying MUM for a min****
DeezNotes 10:32 PM - 5 October, 2011
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I was like where do I click to go to the forum lol.

+1
DeezNotes 3:50 AM - 6 October, 2011
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I was like where do I click to go to the forum lol.

+1

It's even worse when going to serato.com from an Android phone. Horrible mobile experience.
nik39 6:15 AM - 6 October, 2011
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I was like where do I click to go to the forum lol.

+1

It's even worse when going to serato.com from an Android phone. Horrible mobile experience.

Indeed.
Papa Midnight 9:07 AM - 6 October, 2011
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I was like where do I click to go to the forum lol.

+1

It's even worse when going to serato.com from an Android phone. Horrible mobile experience.

In all fairness, it's not exactly a website designed for mobile.
And yet, it works perfectly fine on my Android Tablet (and I hop browsers / OS versions alot - typically between Froyo, Gingerbread and Honeycomb).
tehBEN 8:27 PM - 6 October, 2011
Looks great on my GalaxyS phone using Skyfire,Stock Browser and Dolphin HD.
and pretty great on GoogleTV Stock browser.
DJ LIL M 3:18 AM - 7 October, 2011
The home page looks better now.
DJ.Tyme 5:17 AM - 7 October, 2011
the home page is a start (BUT) i wish ya would change it back. the yellow stood out. letting me no i had a new message
ninos 6:04 AM - 7 October, 2011
home page is SEXY now. blue and black go together like peanut butter and chocolate.
2Seven 2:03 PM - 7 October, 2011
Just jumped on the forum at work and noticed that on threads where there are new, unread posts, there is a gap between the newest post and the other unread posts. Screen shot attached. IE 8.
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Eru G 10:28 PM - 9 October, 2011
Thanks 2Seven - I think I found the cause of that bug - it should be fixed now.
Konix 4:58 AM - 11 October, 2011
Can you please bring back the total post count of a thread with new post count (e.g. 25 messages (3 new) ) for the main subforum page listing. Now it just shows the total new messages for a thread but not the total post count. This helps me weed through threads, especially in the Help forums. Threads with no new posts show total post count.

This has been really irking me for some reason since the change.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:59 AM - 11 October, 2011
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Can you please bring back the total post count of a thread with new post count (e.g. 25 messages (3 new) ) for the main subforum page listing. Now it just shows the total new messages for a thread but not the total post count. This helps me weed through threads, especially in the Help forums. Threads with no new posts show total post count.

This has been really irking me for some reason since the change.


+ ELEVENTY BILLION....
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ChrisD 5:02 AM - 11 October, 2011
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This helps me weed through threads, especially in the Help forums.

How does showing both numbers help you weed through threads?
DJ Dac 5:07 AM - 11 October, 2011
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Can you please bring back the total post count of a thread with new post count (e.g. 25 messages (3 new) ) for the main subforum page listing. Now it just shows the total new messages for a thread but not the total post count. This helps me weed through threads, especially in the Help forums. Threads with no new posts show total post count.

This has been really irking me for some reason since the change.


+ ELEVENTY BILLION....

x Fivehundreddy billion trillion...
Konix 5:15 AM - 11 October, 2011
Well, maybe not necessarily weed though them, I can't quite put my finger on it, but it's been annoying me for some reason. Mainly I think it just lets me easily see which threads are the "hot" ones and have a lot of discussions going in them and /or just a reminder of which threads are the "big" ones with a lot of posts in them. Or threads I may have missed over and ought to give a read.

Also when I see all these threads now with 1 new post or 2 new posts, I don't know, I go in there thinking they're new threads with just 1 or 2 TOTAL posts, but then there's like 250 posts in there. Just throws me off.

Something like that.
DJ Dub Cowboy 6:39 AM - 11 October, 2011
Been throwing me off too. It's hard to tell if a thread is new or old.
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dave 7:30 AM - 11 October, 2011
Hey Konix, thanks for the feedback.

There is a different feel about the forum views now, and I agree with this:
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I can't quite put my finger on it, but it's been annoying me for some reason
... but I don't think the solution is just to "put back the numbers".

In terms of this:
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It's hard to tell if a thread is new or old.
... we have the little triangle at the left that says whether it's completely new (triangle) or whether you have read a little bit of it (no triangle). But maybe that's just not cutting it, and maybe if we had a better solution here, that was still clean, we wouldn't need to show you all the numbers like we did in the past.
DJ Dub Cowboy 7:41 AM - 11 October, 2011
like a temperature gauge?

sort by hotness?

how about just a slash between numbers..?

like... (4/181 Messages)
DeezNotes 11:05 AM - 11 October, 2011
I would like the total count back as well.
DeezNotes 11:18 AM - 11 October, 2011
I was also trying to figure out what bothered me about it too and it's that I can't tell if I've already read some of the discussion or not. I will read a discussion, but not subscribe to it. I may want to go and read some of the new posts, but still not subscribe to it. I can't tell if a post has old posts in it with new ones I have not read or not. It only has a count of posts I have not read. I can also tell if something is new because the new and unread post counts would be the same - now, I have no idea.

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how about just a slash between numbers..?

like... (4/181 Messages)

^^ This.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:27 PM - 11 October, 2011
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I would like the total count back as well.


+ ELEVENTY BILLION and ONE.
radikarl 1:22 PM - 11 October, 2011
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(4/181 Messages)

+1
Konix 1:47 PM - 11 October, 2011
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In terms of this:
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It's hard to tell if a thread is new or old.
... we have the little triangle at the left that says whether it's completely new (triangle) or whether you have read a little bit of it (no triangle). But maybe that's just not cutting it, and maybe if we had a better solution here, that was still clean, we wouldn't need to show you all the numbers like we did in the past.


It's not that. I use Nik39's Greasemonkey script so new threads I've never read before are colored in the old canary yellow (see ... i48.photobucket.com ). This helps a lot for new, never read before threads, but it's still something with the numbers/post count that I'm missing and wanting.

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how about just a slash between numbers..?

like... (4/181 Messages)


Yes.
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dave 8:15 PM - 11 October, 2011
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I can't tell if I've already read some of the discussion or not.

That's what the little triangle tells you, so again.. I don't think that is working.

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but it's still something with the numbers/post count that I'm missing and wanting.

I'm really interested in getting to the bottom of what it's missing. Why does seeing the total count matter? To me it's different the current way, something feels weird, but I'm not certain that it means it's worse.
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dave 8:19 PM - 11 October, 2011
And in regards to the triangle not working, I think that's because its all the way
<- over here on the left but the counts are all the way over there on the right ->
It's too disconnected.
Serato, Support
ChrisD 9:27 PM - 11 October, 2011
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And in regards to the triangle not working, I think that's because its all the way
<- over here on the left but the counts are all the way over there on the right ->

Good point.

It seems, in essence, that what many of you are actually asking for is clearer indication of threads that you haven't read at all.
nik39 9:31 PM - 11 October, 2011
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I can't tell if I've already read some of the discussion or not.

That's what the little triangle tells you, so again.. I don't think that is working.

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but it's still something with the numbers/post count that I'm missing and wanting.

I'm really interested in getting to the bottom of what it's missing. Why does seeing the total count matter? To me it's different the current way, something feels weird, but I'm not certain that it means it's worse.

I find it helpful for identifying "hot threads". Threads with a lot of posts. Sometimes I can't remember which thread it was, but I briefly remember the subject and that it was a thread with a lot of posts.

+1 on getting the number back.
Serato, Support
ChrisD 9:36 PM - 11 October, 2011
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I find it helpful for identifying "hot threads".

For me a "hot thread" is a discussion with lots of new messages in it.
nik39 9:44 PM - 11 October, 2011
Yes and no. I am talking about a thread which I have already read, where there are only a few or maybe even no new posts. A thread which I have not subscribed to.

At first when I saw that you removed the total post counter I was like "cool, I think I don't use this often". Then a few days later I found that I was missing the post counter due to the reasons explained.
LJ_WOOLSEY 10:02 PM - 11 October, 2011
Ok heres the deal! Ok i need to search for some info use search and forum posts come up ow that only has 1 message init thats not what im after. When really that is the thread u was looking for that had 300msg of really good info.

I think it helps loads to see of there has been loads support in messages.

Im sure 1/234 would make more sence.
Serato, Support
ChrisD 10:12 PM - 11 October, 2011
Fair point LJ_WOOLSEY.
tehBEN 10:18 PM - 11 October, 2011
while we are on the topic of site enhancements, can you design and implement a regex based auto-correct/auto-grammar function on submit events that turns
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TyPiNg Lyke dis

and
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typinglikethis

and
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using gramma like dis coz u kno i is d bess man

Into something we can comprehend? A fully automated anti-troll mechanism would also be an excellent addition. And maybe a language selection feature for developers so all the forum text turns out like the following
 1. foreach (message m in messages)
 2. {
 3.     try
 4.     {
 5.       m.displayMessage();
 6.     }
 7.     catch (Exception ex) 
 8.     {
 9.      logger.ErrorRecord(ex);
10.     }
11. }


Ok in all seriousness, good job on the new design guys!
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dave 10:19 PM - 11 October, 2011
COOL SUGGESTION TEHBEN THANKS HEAPS I REALLY LIKE IT
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dave 10:25 PM - 11 October, 2011
Oops missed using this little guy ;)
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adrian w 10:26 PM - 11 October, 2011
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fully automated anti-troll mechanism would also be an excellent addition. And maybe a language selection feature for developers so all the forum text turns out like the following

wY WoOd wee du suMthIN lYk DaT?
tehBEN 10:34 PM - 11 October, 2011
iDun0o? lulz
Konix 2:57 PM - 18 October, 2011
So how about that total thread post count counter?
LJ_WOOLSEY 4:32 PM - 18 October, 2011
+1 where is that?
DeezNotes 7:08 PM - 18 October, 2011
This font looks funny when I zoom out the page (CTRL -) on Windows 7, Firefox 7.0.1. Some characters get smaller than others. Not a huge deal, but it doesn't happen with other fonts on other pages.
Serato, Forum Moderator
Eru G 7:40 PM - 18 October, 2011
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This font looks funny when I zoom out the page (CTRL -) on Windows 7, Firefox 7.0.1. Some characters get smaller than others. Not a huge deal, but it doesn't happen with other fonts on other pages.

Hey DeezNotes,

This is actually a known issue - it has to do with the way Windows 7's font rendering API (DirectWrite) handles sub-pixel anti aliasing. The reason it's more apparent with the font we're using - Din - is because it's a very thin font. There are ways to change it at the Firefox level if you really want to, but it's probably more trouble than it's worth.

If you feel like boring yourself to sleep, you can read more about it here :P - blog.mozilla.com

Hope that helps
nik39 6:50 PM - 19 October, 2011
That was an interesting read! Thanks for the link. :)
tehBEN 7:23 PM - 24 October, 2011
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That was an interesting read! Thanks for the link. :)

+1... definitely relevant to a project im working on at the moment.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:05 PM - 25 October, 2011
Man, I thought y'all fixed it, but WHY do I keep getting this issue where if I want to create a NEW topic, the SPACE for the SUBJECT LINE is messed up?

www.djjohnnym.com
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:08 PM - 25 October, 2011
OH,
Windows XP SP3
IE 7
radikarl 5:39 PM - 25 October, 2011
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WHY do I keep getting this issue


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IE 7


this ;-)
you could at least use IE8 on Windows XP
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 6:49 PM - 25 October, 2011
Corporate PC with IE7 as a Standard.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 6:50 PM - 25 October, 2011
I have to check my PC at home, it has IE8 on it.
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Eru G 7:41 PM - 25 October, 2011
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this ;-)

Unfortunately, this is true.

While we do try our best to make sure the IE7 experience is bearable, it's lack of modern browser standards makes some things simply not work. For this reason, we don't fix IE7 specific bugs unless they're crucial to our core processes (i.e. Downloading software, getting technical support etc.) - the same can be said of IE 8 and 9 in "compatibility" mode, which uses the IE7 rendering and javascript engines.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:44 PM - 25 October, 2011
Arrrrggg!!!

So, being able to post on a Serato Forum isn't crucial to your core processes? :)

I mean, how am I even going to be able to "DOWNLOAD" something if I can't post my issue?

:-D
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:48 PM - 25 October, 2011
So maybe that's why I couldn't "Attach A File" to this discussion....hmmm....
DJ Dac 8:10 PM - 25 October, 2011
Johnny, i think they are trying to tell you something... haha
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:13 PM - 25 October, 2011
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Johnny, i think they are trying to tell you something... haha


***sigh****
Dj Farhan 2:38 AM - 26 October, 2011
i like!
2Seven 10:05 AM - 29 October, 2011
For some reason, the Pitch 'n Time and Rane Series plug-ins Help section doesn't have the Discussion Toolbox
Wobo 9:53 PM - 5 December, 2011
Why you change the vertical layout. In Serato Scratch you have the left an the ight channel and the mixing-control in the middle- Why you don't integrated in DJ Intro ? Do me a favour and bring it back.
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dave 10:56 PM - 5 December, 2011
Hey Wobo, this thread and area is about our website, serato.com.

Head on over here to discuss DJ Intro: serato.com