That looks alot like the samsung captivate? (which is what i have)

I have a love hate relationship with mine...i love how unrestrictive it is but i get TONS more crashes on apps than my iphone, the android marketplace is HORRIBLE, and i hate how not all androids can have the same OS versions, i have a samsung galaxy s phone thorugh tmobile and im like 4 OS updates behind everyone else, which is total BS since they updated the 4G version of this phone with the latest one

Android runs on multiple devices wheres as the i0s runs on the 1 device or a 3 devices - and the older iphones don't support newer versions of the OS - so yeah you are likely to get more crashes. I was thinking that this morning also, I lot more crashes - I had a lot more crashes in week than I had in my 2 years with the iphone lol.

But for me, my crashes are a return from idling crash/return from sleep crash - mostly with tunein radio and skyfire browser - but beside that I am loving the experience.

The galaxy s is a good phone, but the upcoming galaxys II is a beast...

The BEST feature of Android is that it is GOOGLE powered, and those guys keep pushing the innovative hotness..

I've been telling you!!!! lol

I love my HTC Evo. The "crashes" you're talking about are usually from dumbass programmers. I noticed some of the apps don't ever "crash" and some do on the regular. So, I think that's just a programmer's boo boo. For Instance, Words With Friends was always giving me problems. They finally updated it to a version that works without problems. They even said themselves that Droids are harder to program to because there are too many phones that they have to test with. Which... I agree.

Since I've owned my HTC Evo, I've only had about 2 complete auto-starts. Meaning, I was doing something and all of a sudden the phone shut off and turned back on. I consider that an actual crash. lol

sixxx - does Words with Friends drain your battery faster? i dl'ed it a couple months ago but uninstalled because my battery started draining faster.

Not too bad. Maybe because I have it checked with the Advanced Task Killer. I prefer to check when it's my turn than having it check every 5 minutes to see if the opponent has moved. That kills your battery.

True, but the good Android phones only started appearing on AT&T this year, when their exclusive contract with Apple ended. Plus I was a victim of Apple's marketing brainwashing :)

lol

LG GX2, tmobile.

still rocking my iphone 3g with that new matrix mode aka slow as fuck

HTC Thunderbolt = The Fukkin BOMB!!!

Words with Friends kills the battery if you constantly stare at the screen waiting for your friend's move.

The New HTCs recomend NOT installing a Task Killer at all. They shut themselves down after a period of time or simply keep hitting the "back" arrow til the ap shuts down. The Icon pops back up when your apponent makes a move in WORDS.

Custom Roms.

+1 Yes Sir, I haven't looked back since I rooted my phone.

I am reluctant to flash custom Roms because it can be very addictive once you start. I used to flash my rom all the time when I had the tilt.

Welcome Aboard.........and for those of you "stuck 4 os versions behind"....one word.....ROOT!!.


+1

I currently have the T-Mobile G2 rooted with Sense 3.0/Gingerbread (Sense didn't come pre installed on the G2)..the new 3.0 Sense has the 3D cube-like animations when swiping screens.

Yes, there are some that FC (Force Close) alot, when you get a stable one you like....it's all worth it....

Sounds like fun.





but rooting your phone isn't a custom rom, thats on the same level as adding an intake and bigger muffler on your car. Sure it may sound like it's fast but it doesnt really make you go any faster.

installing a custom rom is like ripping apart your engine block, rebuilding it with certain power goals in mind, reprogramming the ECU and fine tuning the fuel maps/ valve timing/ to work with all your internal modifications , redesigning the suspension system to handle the new power, ETC.

anyway, what custom roms are all of you guys on?

I have a Captivate running Darky 10.1 forum.xda-developers.com

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no doubt I first rooted only so I could wifi tether, but once you get into flashing roms it opens up a bunch of options. I've been running redemption rom on my inc but I'm.thinking of moving to a gingerbread based rom.

Im really liking the MIUI rom Watchwww.youtube.com

my wife has the evo and i have an iphone 4. Hands down, GUI, stability , battery life, construction goes to the iphone 4. You guys with androids are on fucking crack!

Its all about rooting your android phone. Custom roms, wireless tethering, and overclocking = beast phone. I'm using an Epic 4G, Ace rom 2.0, and overclocked at 1.1 processing. Once you have full control of your phone like this on top of removing all the bloatware....Iphones can't compete.

dont drop your android !!! and make sure you have extra batteries because the battery life of all droids SUCK

Actually the Epic 4G uses Gorilla glass Watchwww.youtube.com
So I'm not worried about dropping it (which I already have and I don't have a screen protector or cover).

Plus, when you're rooted you can remove all the shit running in the background to increase battery life. If that doesn't help there are also battery mods you can always install. I don't have a problem with battery life at all.

Don't get me wrong, I like Apple products like their macbooks and ipods...It's just I want more control to my phone but Apple won't let you do that.

My phone is insured!

The Android vs Iphone debate is alot like Serato vs Traktor. Android is like Traktor because it's the newer product gaining ground and it's more customizable.

My main complaint about Android is that there's a new one out every damn month. I got the Incredible last year when it came out thinking I have the hot shit then a month later a better Android comes out. Since then about 50 Androids came out and now my phone is old and dated. While the Iphone 4 that came out around the same time as the Incredible is still current.

I love Android for Google Maps and seamless integration with Google Voice. I dont have a text plan but instead use Google Voice for free texts. Google Maps is better than ANY GPS because it displays traffic and no need for map updates. People are always amazed when I put Google Maps on satellite mode.

I just typed this entire post by using the google voice feature try that with you iphone the only thing I have to learn to do is to insert commas and full stops in the voice application

cool story bro

Ha, its not a story, its reality. You said your wife has an Evo - go try it right now.. Don't take my word for it..

Not sure what version of Android this voice feature was introduced,I am running Froyo build 2.6.32.9..

Also something I discovered today - true multitasking.

Here is another test for you:
Install this programs on your wife Android : tune-in radio, winamp and go to youtube in the evo's web browser. Start the youtube clip, then go try to start winamp and play tune and then try to play a Tunein radio stream.
Now go to you iphone and start playing youtube, then try running another audio stream say in the ipod player.

Get back to me with the results of the test.

will do

What is the deal with people on this forum, or the world today in general, who have to prove that their random materialistic purchase is BETTER than anyone elses, the droid and iphone both have their ups and downs, RR im glad your happy with your purchase because buyers remorse sucks, but i own both and both have their highs and lows. WHy is it so important for you to shit on everyone elses purchase?? Are you getting a royality check for any androids sold after this point??

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Bezzle, I agree..............BUT.............as you can see from the title and the early posts......it was about a person who finally made a purchase and is thrilled with his purchase and the rest of us share our same thoughts and love for the product or basically the operating system (Android is the O/S)...then here comes someone putting us down for liking this particular product.

I'm not here for a pissin contest, but that is my honest opinion on how this post went from Happy customers liking a particular product into "my shit is better than yours"....same shit different topic...PC vs Mac, SSL vs Traktor...etc

Just my .02

please show me where anyone was "putting you down" for your purchase?

and thats his opinion, does it really merrit a heated rush to try and point out why you think your phones better??

WHO CARES is someone youve never met who dosent know you dosent agree with your purchase

True in deed, but like i said, I'm not here for a pissin contest........I wasn't offended, I was just pointing out where the post went left.......it all started with that and simply boasting that his iphone 4 superseeds us android peons (including his wife)...is sort of like "hey you're a dumbass for buying that shit that gets outdated the next month it's released".

it all boils down to choice, you have the best of both, and you admitted that......you have android and iphone.....and you stated that they both have their ups and downs..........which is aceptable.

If someone, people or fanboys don't wanna hear about a certain product other than the one they love or like.........why click the damn link on the topic?????

if there was a link named "child porn" would you click it?

It wasn't a random purchase, I did my research before buying the phone. I have both also, Android IS better!

Who is shiting on anyone? Are we on that "I am gonna make a post -for the sake of posting" again?

You don't have to insert anything.
Say the word "comma" or "question mark" etc., and the phone knows what to do.
Funny thing when I'm waiting at the Deli or something and I need to INSERT A COLON :-p

It's not a heat rush - he made a claim - that android suck. And I illustrated reasons I think otherwise and test he could perform for himself instead of listening to me, and he MAN-ed-up and took the challenge. Simple!

probably, that would be the only way to report it, plus i despise having unread threads in my account

Cool, thanks, just tried it, it work. Took a few attempts to get the word "comma "correct. But it always semi-colon and question mark correct. What is the is word for a "period" ?

1st in the grand sceme of life yes it is a random purchase, 2nd no android is not better, neither is better than the other, both have their ups and downs but one is in no way superior to the other. You may enjoy one more or one may fit YOUR needs better but that does not make it a superior device

The current hardware and software in my phone does make a superior device. And you call yourself a tech guy..

Please go do some research then come back and post!

half this thread was discussing why androids crash more than iphones, and the battery life drsinign quicker, sorry but a device that sant run the suprior software correctly without crashing is not superior and a phone thats dead in half the time is not superior, also lets say i want to preview beatport music on your android, its a miserable experience if you can even get it to work yet theres an app on iphone for it so right there the iphone is doing something that the android cant. This works both ways so neither is superior to the other, depending on what you think is important in a phone or what you plan on using it for neither is superior

plus how can you say the software for android (im assuming your referring to the android os) is superior when not all phones can even run the same software, i have an android phone and it wont allow me to update past gingerbread, which is def not on par with the latrest iteration of the iphones OS

Have you tried..."Period"?

Like I told you before, go do your research - there are several Gingerbread based roms for your phone. And I don't use beatport, but I just checked it out - I previewed tracks fine on my phone.
And there is no update past gingerbread so far for phones, honeycomb is only for tablets thus far and icecream sandwich is not officialy out yet.

this is a test. geez yoga mat second attempt jeesh you're the man okay the word. Works thanks sheesh

Thanks Zesh. I it works now, I tried it before it it would just spell out the word. I guess I have to speak clearly. And I wasn't making fun of your name, that was the voice feature :)

LMAO....all good bro. I would've guessed it. Happens to me sometimes when I'm speaking a location for Navigation.

what didnt i research?? ya theres roms out there but thats the equivilent of jailbreaking the iphoen, i shouldnt have to hack my phone for features, i had to go forum digging and get about 3 special programs just to get my phone up to gingerbread. Also im on beatport now and the previewing is MISERABLE when it decides to work. Also the marketpalce on android is a miserable experience it dosent hold a candle to the apple app store.

Ill repeat what i said earlier, the android is a great phone, so is the iphone both have ups and downs but neither is "superior" to the other.

Did you have the iPhone 4?

I have had a few friends have issues with their Droids and had me 90% talked into getting the iPhone 5 when it comes out...

What are downsides to the Droid and iPhone?

I don't understand why people are talking about getting the iPhone 5 when it comes out....

WHEN YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT WHAT FEATURES IT WILL HAVE!!!!


lol


That would be me like saying, "I can't wait to get the next HTC phone"

Who the fuck cares. I don't care whatever phone from whatever company is better when my contract expires. I'm getting it. I don't care if Apple, HTC or any other company makes it. If it's the best, at the time, I'm getting it.

nm

They had issues with their phones and i would be likely to get an iPhone now, but it's worth waiting a few months for a new model... makes sense to me.

Besides, isnt this enough to make you want to wait for a little while longer?

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+1

It's called having a business model. Why provide that latest versions of the Android Os to all phones capable of running it? It will be less incentive for customers to upgrade to the newest phone that comes out - if their old phone can do basically the same thing.

An IT guy not liking to hack/tinker is like a car enthusiast who doesn't like driving stick shift... smh.. haha - I am starting to think you are not who you say you are...

Flashing roms is NOT the equivalent of jailbreaking! Rooting is the more like the equivalent of jailbreak - it allows to run certain software on your phone that is not allowed by default.

There is no equivalent to flash roms on the iphone - because no one has recompiled the iOS software and added new features and software packages and allowed you to put it back on the iphone..

Rooting = jailbreaking
Flashing Rom = Does not exist for the iphone platform yet.

:) Do you get the difference?

What the funk type of phone you have? A flip phone :)

No I didn't have a iphone 4 I had a 3gs. But an had co-workers who allowed me to play with their iphone 4 on a regular basis enough to determine - it wasn't worth the upgrade for me - I was waiting for the next model iphone. Actually - I was dead set on getting the new model iphone this summer to the delay made me try an android. Now I am so NOT interested in the next mode iphone.

The downside to Android is it may have less apps than the Android or the iphone version of the app maybe out before the android version. Also a few product maybe less stable on the android.

Downside of Apple : To be honest - The iphone is a great experience and you can be quite contented with it BUT unless you use another you wont know how restrictive it can be.

Maybe the new version of the iphone has less restrictions - who knows..

Am I the only one hear that isn't a total app whore? (nm) I have google maps, and the weather channel. THATS IT!

Speaking of being an app whore...Amazon gives away a free "paid" app or game everyday.

I had a smart phone since 2001, figured i'd see if i could get by with a normal cell phone and got the Envy Touch from LG... and then the Droid market exploded... biggest regret is that the calender part sucks... not to mention the whole app thing.

After playing around with my wifes android (nm). I still think the iPhone os is soooo much cleaner and smoother. The evo feels like a toy ( like a cd player ) wile the iPhone feels better in my hand ( like a 1200 )

There you have it folks!

not looking for a toy... n/m

Never asked you how it feels in your hand; I asked to perform some tests - but from your evasive response I guess you won't post the truth :)

which is funney because neither will you

The iPhone is a great phone. The problem with it is that Apple tries to over simplify everything and by doing so, they limit what they user can do. Think of a Mac vs a PC. The only difference here is that the Android is a better operating system than Windows ever was.

Right out of the box, the Android is definitely better than the iPhone. Both are great phones and both have plus and minuses, but overall, the Android is a little bit better. Now, you can jailbreak the iPhone to make it better. You can also root the Android to make it even better.

I went from iphone 1, to blackberry (the 9000, then the 9800), and now I'm on Android (nexus s). Why in the hell did I wait so long?

Like people have said, the iphone is fine if you like to live within the 'sandbox' they impose. Blackberry was great for BBM/email, but the battery life sucked, and there was nothing else that was great about it.

Android has been mad awesome. Fully customizable just the way I want it. I've been rooting and hacking since day 1 with this thing, and its been a blast.

LOL - this is coming from a Guy who is tech-clueless..

what qualifys me as tech clueless again??

I disagree Mallon. The Blackberrys had some of the best battery life. One of the few gripes with my Incredible is the battery life but I've solved that problem by having a charger at work and in my car and having 4 spares (2 in my dj bag, 2 in my car) just in case.

Fair enough, my personal experience with the Torch sucked real bad though. Couldn't get through 9-5...and I barely touched it!

HTC Thunderbolt for me...iPhone for her. HTC kicks the iPhone's ass all day and twice on weekends!

my gf has the Torch, seems to last all day for her and she's on in quite a bit.

lucky girl then! hahah. Oh well. I'm happy with my move to android though.

There's gotta be a cream for that. :P

no misquote

Thought this was an interesting read.
www.ksl.com

How well does a Droid work with a Mac?

Oops... Android and Mac ! Lol

not well, there are apps that let you connect the 1 but its not the most efficient of experiences

What the hell are you talking about? lmao!!!!!

First of all, you can connect your Android to your mac very easily through Mac's bluetooth exchange. Then, you can share any file either way. You can also connect your mac to your Android using a usb cord and using the app PdaNet then you can connect wireleslly to the internet... free of charge.

does your reboot too?

I had 2 (along with friends that have a couple) HTC incredibles, all have random rebooting issues, My buddy at work bought the Thunderbolt, it reboots on him 3 times a day even after the replacement they gave him, His g/f's thunderbolt, same issue, she returned it for the iPhone. I agree that the Droid is awesome software and more customizable BUT the iPhone still till this day in my opinion beats it in stability, even from day one, i never had an issue with my iPhone (jailbroken of course), I tried the droids and liked them but keep going back to my iPhone for stability reasons, There is nothing really anyone can do with their droid that you can't do with an iPhone, Jailbroken of course :)

and dont say you can do it all on a droid without it being rooted because for me, the first thing I did was root it so I can tether for free, LOL

so what your saying is there is an app that you can use (which is exaclty what i said lol). Im not fond of the bluetooth file transfer speeds mabye im just spoiled by usb.

Nah. You don't need an app at all to connect to your mac. Just use the Mac's bluetooth file exchange.


But... I'm sure there's also an app for that. lol

^^^Proven once again.... Research more, post less!

As you were...

is it possible to video chat on android?

i couldnt figure it out last nite but my thunderbolt has 2 cameras for what i thought was the purpose of video chat.

anyone know?

I think you need 3rd party apps like skype or fring to do it

Yes. You can do it natively with Google talk and android 2.3.4

cool.
thnx

Get "OOVOO" app. Then you can vid chat with anyone with the same program, including laptops, iPhone 4, other Droids, etc.

say no more. thanx

en.wikipedia.org

Application software, also known as an application or an "app", is computer software designed to help the user to perform singular or multiple related specific tasks. Examples include enterprise software, accounting software, office suites, graphics software and media players. Many application programs deal principally with documents. Apps may be bundled with the computer and its system software



Macs bluetooth file exchange is an APPLICATION that is "bundled with the computer and its system software"

so explain to me how im tech clueless again because i still havent seen an answer

The question was:

How well does a Droid work with a Mac?

The answer was given. Or what did the question suggest? Like both The Droid and The Mac getting a job together for minimum wage? lmao

Tango is another good alternative. I just tried oovoo and it said my device is not supported. Tango may be more popular on both androids and iPhones - when I downloaded it a bunch of my iPhone pals already had it installed.

You wiki-ing shit that supposed to come off the top of your head certainly isn't doing much to help your cause...

I use Qik. Comes standard on the evo.

I got qik installed but I haven't gotten past the "sign up" prompt yet.. Guess I'll test how it compares to Tango..

fring has group video calling. i didn't like tango....drained battery, even when not in use, on my evo. had to uninstall. there's also yahoo messenger.

Droid users who are not aware, there is a $0.10 sale going on all week - 3 days left
market.android.com..

Right now you can cop Shazam Encore for a dime..

I've been on it from the first day. Had to move a bunch of apps to the SD card cause I kept running out of space.

The best thing to do (and not that 10 cents isn't a steal) is sign up for Amazon's market place and they offer a free app every day.

:)

I personally do not like android. It is not as solid as ios. I get crashes, lags, the screen movement isn't as fluid, and other random little things that are not a big deal, but in whole, is an annoyance. Certain apps don't respond or appear the same between the two. I'm sure some people love their android devices and stand behind them, but its not for me. I much prefer ios and will be going back to the iPhone next year. Also, I was in the market for a tablet and considered saving a little coin on an android tablet.... I'm just going to get a..iPad. If the android tablets are like the phones, ill surely be disappointed

You're right about the lag and screen movement for some apps and some devices. You have to hack most Android phones to get them to perform the way they were "supposed" to work. Hopefully one day they'll get it together.

What I've taken from this thread:

Iphones suck because you have to jailbreak them to get the cool stuff. Androids rock because of custom roms and you can root them.

.....can't explain that

Deez is right. Unless you have a very fast phone, Droid won't probably run smoothly... kinda like an old iPhone vs a new one. It's kinda like Serato and computers, the more advanced they get, the more the processors have to keep up and well, older phones don't do that very well whether it's an iPhone or an "bottom of the barrel" Droid.

What you should take from the thread is Android is less restrictive than ios.. I played with ios on someone's ipod - its getting better, but i still prefer android.
I read today that Google is working on Majel - the Siri alternative, so that should be sweet..

RR dude...... give it up!

iso kills rabbits all day!!!

:)
I see your still an apple fanboy..

look like RR and I agree on something. hahaha

nm

Yep!

Lol at android being less restrictive if u hack it and make it perform in a way its not supposed to than an iphone because unless u hack an iphone and make it act differently its to restrictive

holy run on sentence batman!

I can barley type a sentence on this shitty android phone so fuck puncuation

It wasn't the run on sentence that got me but how that did not make sense.

Ima gonna be honest it didnt make sense to me either, the idea.was sound but have way thriugh typing I was like...ummm I didnt.do this right, but sincie editing on an android is a miserable wxperience I just babbled on and postedjust so I could stop typing on this miswrable device

Are you typing with your feet?

At least take your socks off... lol

the difference is that apple doesn't want you jailbreaking their phones - your warranty is technically voided if you take a jailbroken phone and and they actually tried to get it made illegal - fortunately that failed. With Android, you can do whatever you want to your phone and they don't really care. Of course, all that openess hass drawbacks including tons of malware popping up in the android market every so often...

Personally, I'm on an iphone after being a Nokia guy for years (used to work for them and get a brand new high-end, unlocked phone every couple months) and although I was pissed at the lack of freedom, customization, and forcing the user to use itunes, I definitely appreciate the UI.

I kind of want to give Android a try or even WP7 for my next phone so long as i can get a high end one...

Also, I miss having a keyboard...