Serato Software Feature Suggestions

What features would you like to see in Serato software?

Change the design of the software.

Muhamor 10:30 PM - 31 May, 2005
Hello, I got couple of suggestions that I want to suggest for a long time.
1) change the design of the software although it is very good and eficient it looks CHEAP. the grey colors and ugly fonts....
and the layout of all menus. When I went to the store to buy final scratch I didn't know about serato and the guy at the store recommended me the serato so itried it and liked it. I also liked the solid metal SSL interface it looks durable and made with good materials and good hands. but my only consideration was this ugly and cheap looking software which almost changed my mind from buying SSL.
2) the waveform should be horizontal and longer.

3) Add more buttons to the internal mode. cue button, pitch bend button , and more comfortable pitch slider....
Muhamor 10:37 PM - 31 May, 2005
I think this issue is improtnat because if rane wants to sell more of this product than you shuold make the software look eye cathinf too and not only the hardware...
Muhamor 10:38 PM - 31 May, 2005
*eye catching
castor 10:59 PM - 31 May, 2005
In my opinion the software interface looks fine, in fact all the soft colours make it look good. I also like how the browse menu is the same as that of itunes, a nice touch given the integration
nik39 11:05 PM - 31 May, 2005
2) has been suggested many times, read the sticky posts before posting.
3) has been improved as the 1.4 version shows. (DONT use the public preview1 !!)
s42000 2:28 AM - 1 June, 2005
XML skinning .. would be nice ..
but for now I'd rather have a stable and funtional product than a cute stinking one.

my 02.
BassChamber 7:58 AM - 1 June, 2005
though the current GUI is easy to use and clear, i agree it can be vastly improved and refined...

anyways, 1.4 (dont install it yet until SSL teams release a safe version) has improved some GUI aspects. i hope a hypothetical SSL 2 will be smoother and more eye catching...
bush 8:36 AM - 1 June, 2005
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In my opinion the software interface looks fine, in fact all the soft colours make it look good. I also like how the browse menu is the same as that of itunes, a nice touch given the integration


Im giving itunes a go for organising my stuff for serato. Is there anyway to get rid of "party shuffle" showing up in serato?
castor 12:41 PM - 1 June, 2005
hm, i don't know, there doesn't seem to be any obvious way to. to be honest I never really noticed it lol
nik39 1:24 PM - 1 June, 2005
I thought SSL disregards that "Party Shuffle" playlist? Is that a bug reappearing again?
bush 5:10 PM - 1 June, 2005
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hm, i don't know, there doesn't seem to be any obvious way to. to be honest I never really noticed it lol


I notice it. Im very anal about things like that
Serato
Josh 10:58 PM - 1 June, 2005
We had to put party shuffle back in for consistency, we couldn't get rid of non-english party shuffles (mix du soiree etc)no matter how hard we tried.
bush 10:31 AM - 2 June, 2005
Bloody non english people ruining it for everyone
thebulge 2:18 PM - 2 June, 2005
Bush? is your first name George by chance? I think he's got the same outlook - THREAD TERMINATED - getting political :)
skutch 2:25 PM - 2 June, 2005
josh i want butterflies, pandas and ponies on my GUI!!!!!!!!
s42000 3:59 PM - 2 June, 2005
dubya strikes again ..
dj dawn 5:06 PM - 2 June, 2005
I think it could be fun to have a little bit more fancy GUI. It can be an optional feature for those who like it.

This is the GUI a la fancy style ;)

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...Not very useful GUI but some more 3d effects could make the SSL GUI to look a little bit more professional!?
nik39 5:14 PM - 2 June, 2005
Believe me, you dont want those LCD digit style fonts, they are harder too read!
kidjay 5:48 PM - 2 June, 2005
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I think this issue is improtnat because if rane wants to sell more of this product than you shuold make the software look eye cathinf too and not only the hardware...


SSL doesn't have all the bells and whistle visualy, but it is a stable and great system. SSL does exactly what it is suppose to do and it does it well unlike the competition.

Great example, look at the iPods. UGLY, no bells or whistles, but it is the hottest selling MP3 on the market. The competition has tried to add the extra stuff but the iPod is still the king because its easy to use and does what a player is suppose to do!
Cashless 5:50 PM - 2 June, 2005
I think Muhamor is a Traktor/TFS user.
dj dawn 5:57 PM - 2 June, 2005
Yeah I agree with you guys. Maybe the Serato team should just add some small 3d effects and something that shows when you hit a button for example!

We want SSL to become the industry standard and blow away FS... then an optional GUI must be implented for the kind of fancy wanting users!
bush 6:14 PM - 2 June, 2005
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Great example, look at the iPods. UGLY, no bells or whistles, but it is the hottest selling MP3 on the market. The competition has tried to add the extra stuff but the iPod is still the king because its easy to use and does what a player is suppose to do!


I think your getting that mixed up. It does well because of the way it looks and its style. Not the way it works, its a fashion accessory
Detroitbootybass 7:31 PM - 2 June, 2005
I like the GUI the way that it is...
KMXE 12:18 AM - 3 June, 2005
i think SSL's reliability, rock solid performance and relavant features is enough to "blow away the competition". The GUI right now is fine as it is. Its straight to the point, functional, and it "looks" pro.

If FS sells more because of looks, we'll have more DJ's whinging about their digital DJ setup - and therefore more DJ's looking for alternative solutions. They'll come knocking on SSL's forum door and discover that there really is a heaven in the DJ world.

i personally dont think the iPod is ugly - Apple have a reputation for highly considering the aesthetics of their products, and this is no exception. However, they haven't forgotten the whole point of what the iPod is, and that is a MP3 player - and it works. Thats all people want... when they buy something, just fuckin work the way its advertised, and all the users will be happy. Just like SSL. read over the newcomers posts in this forum and its almost like hearing from someone thats just discovered religion - relief that it works, joy that it works and grateful that it exists.

Basically, unless adding eye candy is functional in any way, IMHO, leave that muthaf*ka alone! i dont need it to look cool - just f*ckin work!(No disrespect intended against anyone here!)

As always, my $0.02!

:)
nobspangle 8:03 AM - 3 June, 2005
I personally don't want my CPU time taken up rendering effects. Dawn your example GUI does look nice (apart from the waveform which is rubbish).
It's like with Cubase, I had used that program from the very beginning on the Atari ST right up to version 5. Since SX came out it now takes me 5 minutes of staring at the screen before I can make everything out.
I don't need SSL to look nice, I need it to be clear, which at them moment it is.

One more point, the 1.4 gui looks a lot better than 1.3, I think you'll be pleased when you see it.
dj dawn 8:43 AM - 3 June, 2005
Yeah, I guess you all are right...SSL really works and that's the most important thing with the software! Props to the Serato team
Zion-Prayz 8:47 PM - 3 June, 2005
I think the 1.4 GUI was a nice upgrade to the look. Skins should probably be near the bottom of the list of things to add after the more pertinent performance aspects are rock solid.
diego vega 8:20 PM - 4 June, 2005
I have noticed some dead pixels on my laptop's screen... maybe it's just a coincidence but I think if you play for long periods of time with SSL since most of the screen is static, it could lead to more dead pixels. I think the interface needs to take that into consideration and the main color should be black (because if I'm not incorrect, 'black pixels' don't die right?)

What do you think about this issue?
nik39 8:27 PM - 4 June, 2005
Ah come on. Whats next? SSL should use no CPU, cause it reduces your CPUs life time? No hardrive usage, cause reading files concurrently (and thats what happens when you play two different tracks at the same time)? Okay, well later may be an issue, you could cache each file ;-) But seriously, you are a pro, arent you? Thats like asking the club owner not to push the soundsystem to its limits, it could harm the amplifier. You want best results? Well, then you gotta take in account the degradation to usage.

No offense, but... that doesnt sound like a good suggestion just to avoid dead pixels.
thebulge 12:25 AM - 5 June, 2005
LCD displays won't get a "burn in" or end up with dead pixels if left with a static image. LCD (TFT) panels are made up of a matrix of millions of tiny transistors, 3 for each pixel on your screen (red, green, blue). Do the maths - 1024x768x3=2359296!! (and that's on a realively small screen). Some of which can fail, even during manufacture, (note some company's crappy dead pixel policys - Apple!) resulting in a constantly dark or lit pixel. Screen savers to eliminate static displays are now a thing of the past, they are just eye candy for LCD panels and have no real purpose... only CRT displays will be affected by phosphor burn if left with a static image for LONG periods of time. LCD backlights DO have a limited lifespan though, so leaving a flat panel on when not in use will reduce it's effective operating life and brightness over time. Try setting your energy saver display settings to Always On (in MacOSX) and note the warning that comes up.

And I love SSL's interface! It mimics iTunes column based browser, so it's already familar. I can find songs quickly and easily. I remember trying Traktor out, I think version 2.0 and I couldn't even figure out how to load a song - I had to read the manual Argh!. It wouldn't drag and drop.. it was awful, the file/song broswer felt like a clunky Windows explorer. Hats off to Serato, the column Apple-like browser has proven to be very effecient and easy to use.. look at how many iPods are around.
Nadav 11:13 AM - 5 June, 2005
the design is great and has a professional look and the waveform should stay as they are ! this is a much better way then final scratch (used final scratch for 2 years) and the SSL way is the right way.
SpinThis! 2:38 AM - 6 June, 2005
LCD's are immune to screen burn-in however hot or dead pixels are something you have to live with. (plasmas are actually the most suspectible; today's CRTs actually take years before any harm is done).

as for apple's policy on hot/dead pixels, if every manufacturer replaced every pixel that was dead, they'd be out of business trying to deal with the perfectionists out there who are after the "perfect" display. if there's one right in the center of your screen where you also look rather than one in the right corner, you have a better chance of getting it replaced.
ACME 12:54 AM - 9 June, 2005
I'd like stronger, different colors for the labels.
I can't distinguish them now