Serato Software Feature Suggestions
Sucks
What features would you like to see in Serato software?
Sucks
PoorSSL
6:30 PM - 21 March, 2007
Serato still sucks since 2004
Here's why:
1. You can't have a CD-J and Turntable setup in use with Serato at the same time. It's either phono or line modes. This is part hardware and software flaw. There's no redunancy in case of emergencies. There should have been more input RCA jacks and
auto switching on the Thru port so you can mix and match Turntables and CD-Js on the fly on any channel. Heck you should be able to mix iPoo'ds with this shit if it's so good, but you can't. Thats why it sucks. To add to that, if you're using the
CD-J/Serato configuration and your 2 channel mixer's channel doesn't support dual mode line and phono/line, forget about it.
You need 2 line inputs per channel, otherwise don't bother using the CD-J side at all. Absolutely no redunancy there.
2. You can't mix MPGs or video files and have the video output channeled to a video mixer. Come on new technology, you'd
think you'd be up to date at this point. DVD-J's are still kicking your ass and they've been out longer than you.
3. Having all the songs on 1 hard drive makes Serato, and the system itself generally slow causing lag and horrible results.
Don't think having a Mac notebook solves this problem, it happens on ALL computers. It's called fragmentation. Don't be a
cocky non-IT compliant DJ operating a laptop.
4. People seem to think they're 'cooler' using serato when they play a remix that no one has on vinyl or cd. There is no
advantage or even respect when you're downloading it or using a computer to edit the tracks. Its called cheating. Anyone can do it.
5. 128kbps sounds shitty and you have to crank up the gains to acheive equal volume levels. It clips the speakers and the
slightest click of a scratched control record can hurt peoples ears. I wonder why people/promoters don't notice this shit.
6. Technology is technology and there will always be something twice as better within 2 years at least. Software can advance
at any time, it's just that the makers of Serato are too fucking lazy and careless to upgrade their shit. Think about it. Serato has been out since 2004 (3 years) and it hasn't changed since. MP3 software mixing has been out since 2000. When I think of those numbers, I think what a piece of shit. A bunch of monkeys must have designed this crap. It's like a Mac, they think they can upgrade when they feel like it, when they needed it a LONG time ago.
7. The software is not open source so many intellectual DJ's who ARE computer savvy cannot provide input as to what they want to see in the program. You can bitch and complain on their gay Serato forums but that's it. Otherwise, you can only download updates of stupid things like Auto BPM, Gain Detector (shit that should have came with the software in the first place).
8. Serato makes DJ's lazy and undeserving. You will notice their bellies get fatter each time they perform because they
aren't working out, and don't give a shit about vinyl records any more. They think they're free from hard labor and storage
space. Convenience over quality. We'll see how the convenience fairs when they're hard drive with 300 gigs worth of songs are
gone in 1 second from hard drive failure. They'll be thinking What's RAID? What a shame and how dare these DJs think they're
taking over.
9. What happened to the entertainment factor? All you see is a guy hacking on the computer and playing music from it. If I
wanted to see that shit I'd go to work where I can see that shit all day. It's like a performer having someone sing for them back stage and the performer is just lip syncing.
10. Finally, Serato will never EVER acheieve the same sound quality as vinyl or live performances. So don't ask me when I'm
going to "convert" because I will never "convert." I will possibly "use" it on occassion but I will always prefer vinyl over anything including CD-Js. Quality over convenience. I'm not replacing a grand piano with an electronic keyboard. Not now, not ever.
Here's why:
1. You can't have a CD-J and Turntable setup in use with Serato at the same time. It's either phono or line modes. This is part hardware and software flaw. There's no redunancy in case of emergencies. There should have been more input RCA jacks and
auto switching on the Thru port so you can mix and match Turntables and CD-Js on the fly on any channel. Heck you should be able to mix iPoo'ds with this shit if it's so good, but you can't. Thats why it sucks. To add to that, if you're using the
CD-J/Serato configuration and your 2 channel mixer's channel doesn't support dual mode line and phono/line, forget about it.
You need 2 line inputs per channel, otherwise don't bother using the CD-J side at all. Absolutely no redunancy there.
2. You can't mix MPGs or video files and have the video output channeled to a video mixer. Come on new technology, you'd
think you'd be up to date at this point. DVD-J's are still kicking your ass and they've been out longer than you.
3. Having all the songs on 1 hard drive makes Serato, and the system itself generally slow causing lag and horrible results.
Don't think having a Mac notebook solves this problem, it happens on ALL computers. It's called fragmentation. Don't be a
cocky non-IT compliant DJ operating a laptop.
4. People seem to think they're 'cooler' using serato when they play a remix that no one has on vinyl or cd. There is no
advantage or even respect when you're downloading it or using a computer to edit the tracks. Its called cheating. Anyone can do it.
5. 128kbps sounds shitty and you have to crank up the gains to acheive equal volume levels. It clips the speakers and the
slightest click of a scratched control record can hurt peoples ears. I wonder why people/promoters don't notice this shit.
6. Technology is technology and there will always be something twice as better within 2 years at least. Software can advance
at any time, it's just that the makers of Serato are too fucking lazy and careless to upgrade their shit. Think about it. Serato has been out since 2004 (3 years) and it hasn't changed since. MP3 software mixing has been out since 2000. When I think of those numbers, I think what a piece of shit. A bunch of monkeys must have designed this crap. It's like a Mac, they think they can upgrade when they feel like it, when they needed it a LONG time ago.
7. The software is not open source so many intellectual DJ's who ARE computer savvy cannot provide input as to what they want to see in the program. You can bitch and complain on their gay Serato forums but that's it. Otherwise, you can only download updates of stupid things like Auto BPM, Gain Detector (shit that should have came with the software in the first place).
8. Serato makes DJ's lazy and undeserving. You will notice their bellies get fatter each time they perform because they
aren't working out, and don't give a shit about vinyl records any more. They think they're free from hard labor and storage
space. Convenience over quality. We'll see how the convenience fairs when they're hard drive with 300 gigs worth of songs are
gone in 1 second from hard drive failure. They'll be thinking What's RAID? What a shame and how dare these DJs think they're
taking over.
9. What happened to the entertainment factor? All you see is a guy hacking on the computer and playing music from it. If I
wanted to see that shit I'd go to work where I can see that shit all day. It's like a performer having someone sing for them back stage and the performer is just lip syncing.
10. Finally, Serato will never EVER acheieve the same sound quality as vinyl or live performances. So don't ask me when I'm
going to "convert" because I will never "convert." I will possibly "use" it on occassion but I will always prefer vinyl over anything including CD-Js. Quality over convenience. I'm not replacing a grand piano with an electronic keyboard. Not now, not ever.
djtripp
8:15 PM - 21 March, 2007
wow, i have to say that is the most ignorant post i've ever seen. Besides the fact you signed up for these boards just to berate a product you don't own, or plan on owning, just for the sake of doing it, is inconceivable. If you had poked around here a bit, or even had a friend who was into SSL you'd know it's changed by miles since 2004.
1. You don't need to have the crazy input ideas you have listed. I don't think i'd ever use one turntable and one cd player...ever.
2. See the videos on YouTube for the video update for the NEXT version of Serato. Yes, there is video this year. It's called R&D for a reason, you really want to put out a product like everyone else? I have a feeling Seratos laptop video mixing will surpase everyones expectations.
3. I've never had a problem with load times with SSL music. Your computer sucks.
4. I know i'm cooler when I play a remix I did. I don't need a computer to play it. How is editing music on a computer cheating? That's how everyone makes/produces music. Any CD you've bought in the last 10 years was edited on a computer. Unless your family is related to Nile Rodgers and you have to cup up 1" tape to make 12" mixes...your ideas are out of date.
5. Um, my Control Records are in bad shape, never clicked, popped or anything. And I don't think there are ANY SSL dj's that go out of there way to play 128 mp3's. Ever. Ass.
6. Again, we have updates all the time. This a redundant gripe. You're losing good argument points. Not that you have had any yet.
7. Now you've just become an ass on this one. Aren't you complaining on the same GAY forum we are? Does that mean you go to GAY bars to complain about why you don't like gay people?
8. We don't think we're taking over. I think you meant to put something here about how you're getting outspun in the clubs by people with the forethought to save themselves the hassle of lugging around 3 crates of records for ANOTHER 17 years. Like myself.
9. It's nothing like that. Funny, cause one night I hooked a mini cam up to show the screen of my laptop and people loved it. I guess you should really think about the fact that people embrace new things much easier than you. Maybe you need a hug. I know a good gay bar for that too.
10. Nobody wants you to convert. In fact when you are in the club and no one is dancing to the same dj mix you've been doing for the last 6 months because you can't do fun things to the song on the fly, and your vinyl melts in your car cause you were in the music shop getting your new hot ass trackmaster needles and complaining about SSL to the clerk, and you get a call from your club owner saying he wants to hire someone who has some fresh ideas about where to take music and video this year, and some guy is hitting on your girl cause it takes three trips to the car for all your record crate...and she takes his number...I won't ever tell you you should convert.
1. You don't need to have the crazy input ideas you have listed. I don't think i'd ever use one turntable and one cd player...ever.
2. See the videos on YouTube for the video update for the NEXT version of Serato. Yes, there is video this year. It's called R&D for a reason, you really want to put out a product like everyone else? I have a feeling Seratos laptop video mixing will surpase everyones expectations.
3. I've never had a problem with load times with SSL music. Your computer sucks.
4. I know i'm cooler when I play a remix I did. I don't need a computer to play it. How is editing music on a computer cheating? That's how everyone makes/produces music. Any CD you've bought in the last 10 years was edited on a computer. Unless your family is related to Nile Rodgers and you have to cup up 1" tape to make 12" mixes...your ideas are out of date.
5. Um, my Control Records are in bad shape, never clicked, popped or anything. And I don't think there are ANY SSL dj's that go out of there way to play 128 mp3's. Ever. Ass.
6. Again, we have updates all the time. This a redundant gripe. You're losing good argument points. Not that you have had any yet.
7. Now you've just become an ass on this one. Aren't you complaining on the same GAY forum we are? Does that mean you go to GAY bars to complain about why you don't like gay people?
8. We don't think we're taking over. I think you meant to put something here about how you're getting outspun in the clubs by people with the forethought to save themselves the hassle of lugging around 3 crates of records for ANOTHER 17 years. Like myself.
9. It's nothing like that. Funny, cause one night I hooked a mini cam up to show the screen of my laptop and people loved it. I guess you should really think about the fact that people embrace new things much easier than you. Maybe you need a hug. I know a good gay bar for that too.
10. Nobody wants you to convert. In fact when you are in the club and no one is dancing to the same dj mix you've been doing for the last 6 months because you can't do fun things to the song on the fly, and your vinyl melts in your car cause you were in the music shop getting your new hot ass trackmaster needles and complaining about SSL to the clerk, and you get a call from your club owner saying he wants to hire someone who has some fresh ideas about where to take music and video this year, and some guy is hitting on your girl cause it takes three trips to the car for all your record crate...and she takes his number...I won't ever tell you you should convert.
dj disturbed
8:19 PM - 21 March, 2007
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PoorSSL
8:50 PM - 21 March, 2007
hope your computer dies in the middle of your performances...idiots. who wants to hear a computer lag in the middle of a performance? get SSL!
PoorSSL
8:52 PM - 21 March, 2007
anyone know of a good SSL virus? One day SSL will finally implement video mixing...and all of a sudden a virus interupts the performance and puts up a porn video clip in front of thousands of people and all you hear is moaning
PoorSSL
9:22 PM - 21 March, 2007
maybe they should add more features like Effects, Sampling, or Recording live mixes features. they haven't produced anything but a basic mp3 mixing console to me, and it STILL has problems. how much more time do they need it's already 2007, quad core chips, u'd think they can start utilizing more advanced technology by now...since ssl is based on technology, i'm utterly disappointed and so i will wait..maybe pioneer will come out with something else and do shit right like they've always have
djtripp
9:23 PM - 21 March, 2007
they do, it's called the TTM 57 SSL. All of it is there. shut up and read.
PoorSSL
9:47 PM - 21 March, 2007
theres my point, why go out and buy something outdated when rane is just going to release something more improved upon, costing more, taking all of your money in the process. i'm goin to design the best car in the world but it will only have seats. next year it'll have doors, but we're trying to improve the comfort of our seats because our users think it needs to pass quality before getting the doors.
dj disturbed
9:53 PM - 21 March, 2007
ummmm ok... so you can spend the money (one or 2 gigs worth of work) to get the BASIC package with the SL1 box.....or you can get the 57sl to get all the stuff.. its like having opsions on the car... if you want a good car that works well get this at a low price.. if you want a good car wit all the extra stuff like nav, dvd player, etc.. then you pay more.
ithink a mod needs to lock this thread sense you have one exactly like it open in the genral discussions anyway
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theres my point, why go out and buy something outdated when rane is just going to release something more improved upon, costing more, taking all of your money in the process. i'm goin to design the best car in the world but it will only have seats. next year it'll have doors, but we're trying to improve the comfort of our seats because our users think it needs to pass quality before getting the doors.ummmm ok... so you can spend the money (one or 2 gigs worth of work) to get the BASIC package with the SL1 box.....or you can get the 57sl to get all the stuff.. its like having opsions on the car... if you want a good car that works well get this at a low price.. if you want a good car wit all the extra stuff like nav, dvd player, etc.. then you pay more.
ithink a mod needs to lock this thread sense you have one exactly like it open in the genral discussions anyway
PoorSSL
10:04 PM - 21 March, 2007
go ahead i dont care
when you add a computer to the factor, one would think of amazing things and it's capabilities. SSL lacks it. I personally would rather use a laptop to Record live mixes, edit tracks, or create remixes. Something a laptop should be more used for.
why doesn't some company just come up with a device that interfaces directly with an external hard drive and a CD-J. Think about the cassette tape to CD convertor for your car. Only it's a hard drive to CD convertor for the CD-J. Have the CD-J control and manipulate all the MP3 files directly from the hard drive without any control cd or laptop. it'd be practically the same things as SSL except more stable because you don't have to worry about the computer crashing on you. It's more practical because you're not trying to make analog and digital worlds clash like Rane seems do so well.
Whatever dudes, SSL is just a fad because I predict newer technology will take over.
when you add a computer to the factor, one would think of amazing things and it's capabilities. SSL lacks it. I personally would rather use a laptop to Record live mixes, edit tracks, or create remixes. Something a laptop should be more used for.
why doesn't some company just come up with a device that interfaces directly with an external hard drive and a CD-J. Think about the cassette tape to CD convertor for your car. Only it's a hard drive to CD convertor for the CD-J. Have the CD-J control and manipulate all the MP3 files directly from the hard drive without any control cd or laptop. it'd be practically the same things as SSL except more stable because you don't have to worry about the computer crashing on you. It's more practical because you're not trying to make analog and digital worlds clash like Rane seems do so well.
Whatever dudes, SSL is just a fad because I predict newer technology will take over.
Matt G
10:23 PM - 21 March, 2007
Ok, I've locked this thread because it's a cross post of this one: www.scratchlive.net
PoorSSL, one thread is enough for one discussion. If you have something new to talk about then by all means make a new thread. But starting two threads with the same message is what's called cross posting, which isn't good netiquette.
PoorSSL, one thread is enough for one discussion. If you have something new to talk about then by all means make a new thread. But starting two threads with the same message is what's called cross posting, which isn't good netiquette.