I second this as an option. I find myself getting distracted sometimes.

Nice suggestion
... mind you it's been suggested several times before

ya i thought it had been suggested so many times it was IMPLIMENTED


I was turning my boy onto it who is a longtime dj, and i swore he could turn it off....i looked stupid.

I think you should have the option to take off.. NOT be there at all

I'm surprised at how many people want this function gone...

I with DJ CAP Igot myself looking at the waves at all the time....it sucks....

not completely gone just an option to take it out and just have the 2 wheels showin and then if u want them back on just go to the set-up page or somethin


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yes, i want to remove the wheels, they are useless for me and take up some cpu usage

i'm waiting for this too since the day i bought scratch live

I tend to use a combination of ear and visual monitoring though a setting to turn it off would be nice. In my opinion if the technology is there why not use it! Watching the introduction videos, it seems Serato used the visual beat matching as a selling point and I doubt that they will do away with it altogether.

i'd like to be able to remove the waveforms, but still see the track overveiw. it would be nice if you could turn off each function
(waveform, overveiw, wheels, )seperatly.

i find myself getting lazy. beatmatching by sight takes alot of the skill out of it. i've been turning my moniter off and on as a workaround.

i wrote this a long time ago

www.aloha-music.com

it's more than stupid but maybe better for the monitor.. the default size was for my 19inch monitor

honestly, not trying to be a dick, but wah wah. its cool if you want to remove it but its not distracting unless you're staring at it. if you're focusing on the crowd and the actual records and you wont have a problem.

I'm not saying it's distracting, I'm saying it's taking up useless cpu power and the less power you waist the the more afficiant the program will run

when i play with me laptop i got no problems because i dont have it in front of me and only check it for track change.. but on my pc it's very distracting.. no clue why

if i had my laptop with that thing in front of my eyes like many of u i'd have thrown it onto the dancefloor in some rage lol

if spinning in my house i have started covering the wavefrom simply by hanging a bit of paper over it. I do not do this at gigs obvioulsy i have alot more tnings to be staring at

FINE ASS BITCHES

but i must agree since i got SSL i have hardly touched my vinyl's and 1 day i tried i noticed my beat matching skill was not quite as good as i use to be, hence the paper

I agree...I find myself looking at the waves all the time...I think i'm looking more at the waves on my laptop than at the dancefloor !!!

I must be the weird one... I actually find the waveforms help me concentrate on the audio. It's hard to describe, but I'm not actively watching the waves, they're just kind of like visually twiddling my thumbs.

While doing this, I get the same concentration/isolation of audio in my senses that I get from closing my eyes.

I use the waves primarily to double check my mix-in / mix-out points or estimate what's happening with a new song that I'm not quite familiar with.

I guess I don't really see the point of wasting developer time to turn off one of the primary pieces of functionality in the software. If you don't like the waves, don't look at them. If you find yourself unable to tear your eyes away from them, click the "Setup" button and carry on. =-)

arrgh how i hate this dont look at them crap.. they are 2 inch away from the track overview how can u not look at them? that's physically impossible

So it's the motion that's bugging you? Do the spinning wheels also pose a problem or is it just the waves?

the spinning wheels bug me, I don't like when people watching me dj say,"Look, all he has to do is match the wheels up, then he mixes"

I'm thinking about starting a new feature suggestion for Serato where they just link the SSL hardware to iTunes... it seems to be what a lot of people are asking for: a library tool and nothing else.

I dont see anyone on this thread saying that

What this thread is about is, if you are a dj like myself who loads a song and then mixes by ear and not by staring at the waveforms, you should be able to turn them off to save cpu power, If you need them, then leave them on.

WORD!

today i stuck some eletrical tape over the waveforms... fits perfect on my 18in. moniter

SSL has four primary functions:

1. Allow physical control of digital music via record/cd
2. Visual onscreen display of waveform information.
3. Visual onscreen display of record/cd position
4. Music library organization, selection, & search.

In this thread, people have asked to be able to turn off functions 2 and 3 in various levels from "just the moving stuff" to "hide it all, it's making me lazy." Don't forget that there's a concurrent thread wanting to be able to remove the song title display as well.

So... between this thread and that one, people want to be able to remove pretty much everything above the library. Next time you run SSL without your box attached, turn on the "Browse" function - looks an awful lot like iTunes to me.

I'm all for options and I normally don't post negatives when people suggest features they would like - everyone likes to work differently. But in this case, I think there are far more important things for Serato to be spending their finite development resources on than removing the functionality that they put in as selling points in the first place.

Especially when you can fold a piece of paper, hang it over the top half of the screen and achieve the same results.

How about this as an alternative: fix the zoom function so that you can zoom the track all the way out, effectively freezing the motion? At full zoom out, the song position marker (and all cue points) would appear on the large waveform as it currently is in the smaller track overview.

That would be useful to more people anyway, since there are several folks who would like to see a little further ahead than the current zoom allows, or who would like a larger representation of the total track overview.

like video? that's not even music related.. this one is



wtf???

i could spin some normal vinyls and put a video tape to a tape deck and would have the same result as well...

sorry.. but that point of u is absolutely crap

and those new functions u are talking of need cpu power.. why not making features that so many people dont want optional to save the power for other great new features..

Daim, I don't know where you picked up video for this particular thread, but I'll address your points.

1. If you think that video isn't music related, I don't think you've been paying attention since about... oh... 1983. I was going to clubs that had video mixing walls 20 years ago.

2. I would like to see you use a VCR and a regular record, sync them, mix both video and audio into the next track, and then repeat that for your entire set. If you can do that, call Hollywood and get an agent because you'll be the only 6-armed, 2-headed DJ in the world.

3. My point is not "crap" as you so eloquently put it. Here's how you can test my theory: Take a piece of paper. Position the paper over your monitor so that it covers up the wave forms, track name, and wheels. If you need the track overview, cut out a hole. Fold whatever paper is sticking past the top of the monitor over the top so that the paper stays in place.

There! You've accomplished in 15 seconds (45 if you cut the hole for the track overview) and for about $.02 what people in this thread and the various "Get rid of track names" threads have been asking for without needing any development time, beta testing, or having to wait for the next version.

4. If you're worried about CPU power while using Serato, you seriously need a new computer. To quote Weird Al, "what kind of chip you got in there, a Dorito?" SSL is one of the least taxing applications I run.

If you're that worried about CPU, I assume you have your entire library in AIFF or WAV so SSL doesn't have to do any decoding, right? You also don't have any other applications installed on your machine, and have stripped your OS background services and processes to the bone, right?

Your last point doesn't really work either - the Devs have to assume that most people probably will have the GUI fully enabled when adding new functionality. It is, after all, one of the main selling points of the software.

It's one thing to say that turning off parts of the GUI are important for individual work styles and preferences - I can accept that. The CPU argument is the one I consider specious.

I'd much rather see the developers concentrating on bug fixes, innovation, new features, and Vista compatibility (so I don't have to see those threads anymore) and that's why I broke my normal rule about not posting a "negative" opinion about a feature suggestion.

I still don't understand what's so difficult about not looking at the screen... if it's in your field of view, move the damn laptop. But apparently it's a problem for some people, so let's hope it's something easy for SSL to implement.

Again, I'm all for optional functionality and understand that different people have different working styles. I just think there are more creative ways to address the situation, hence my suggestion about changing the zoom function. At least that provides an additional feature instead of just leaving a big hole on the screen.

Finally, Serato has already implemented this feature for you. It's called the Setup button. Click it and the waveforms, track names, and wheels magically disappear. Click it again and they come back. Of course, then we'll probably have a thread asking for Serato to disable the scope calibration displays. ;-)

Less stress on the cpu means less heat, plus the cpu will last you a little longer. I don't need a new computer, I have 3 new Mac's and pc's and I work in IT so I think I know a little about how to run a computer, If shutting off some gui options will save my cpu stress 10% over a 5 hour set, then thats a little longer My mac or pc will last.

You must run a lot of heavy apps then, When I run SSL it runs at about 70% which is pretty taxing on a cpu for hours at a time with no break, The cpu's can obviously handle but if we can get the cpu to run at 40-50%, then it would run smoother and ssl may have less screen freeze issues that a lot of people talk about

are u seriously recommending to us to stick paper to our monitors instead of asking for the feature to turn the waveform of?? u must be joking..

there's a workarround for 90% of all features requested here.. but nobody is recommending to use a workarround when people ask for a particular feature..

that's like when i'd say if u want video just use another dj app that supports it already lol

SLL on my computer runs at about 15-18% when just playing, when cueing it peaks at around 60-70, it is not cotinuous. I am one who likes the waveforms, it tells me where there is a break down coming, the main beat coming in and the end of the tune, is it a fade or sudden stop. The waveforms also form a great reference when I want to establish whether I have programmed loops in there before. I see a green highlighted area later on in the track so I just enable the loop and when it comes to that part of the song the loop executes. I think it is reasonable to request an option for waveforms to be disabled but for me it is tbe only reference similar to a orthodox piece of vinyl to signify what might be coming up.

As a professional working deejay ie. it is my full time career alongside published work I am fortunate enough to get sent around 400 tunes a month (no exageration). I will specifically spend a bout 1/2 a day listening to new stuff quickly and then filtering out the ones that may be useful. If I didn't have the waveform for reference I would not know visually how the tune is structured and therefore feel that functionality has been taken away from me rather than added.

Special note to all who have requested this feature:

I will remember you asking for it when they add this option, and you later make any mention of using them!

Sigh... you guys aren't really getting my point, so there's not much sense in prolonging this.

Bri, I really don't want to get into an epeen battle with you about IT cred, but as an IT person you should already be aware that unless you're running a porn server or a render farm at Pixar, your computers will likely be obsolete before the chips are damaged by heat.

I'd be more worried about them inhaling smoke and fog juice than the amount of damage caused by displaying wave-forms.

Releaux, I'm not saying you are wrong, your points are right, Im just saying that the more customizable the gui is, the happier people would be. Personally I can care less, Im not tring to start a stupid argument either, I have better things to do. I would mainly like to turn off a lot of the gui just so it drawers less attention to the screen, I hate when people have to look over my shoulder to see what the spinning wheels are doing and ask a million questions while im DJing

I have an easy suggestion for this lock the door to the booth or hire my wife to scare people from coming behind your table, She sure scares the hell out of me, as for cpu percentage, mine runs at between 5 and 10 percent during gigs ocassionally peaking higher during search sorts, and this is with my old MP3 dj software running as well just in case SSL crashes (which it has done once in 30 gigs)