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SSL Video mixing clip from NAMM

nik39 11:43 PM - 30 January, 2007
www.scratchlive.de <- click here to watch the video.

(Posted in the german subforum here scratchlive.net <- click)
Julls 11:45 PM - 30 January, 2007
***BUMP*** Thanks for sharing nik!!!
nik39 11:49 PM - 30 January, 2007
Eh.. not my video :) I just found the link posted in the other forum.
MSF 12:30 AM - 31 January, 2007
I saw the video scratching video with the rane57sl mixer.
Is the video transitioning controlled by midi signals sent from the crossfader on the rane57sl ?

if so, would I be able to use the Allen Heath Xone:92's crossfader to perform the same function as the rane57sl crossfader? [I think the Xone:92 sends a midi signal out from the crossfader as well...]
Dj KaGeN 12:47 AM - 31 January, 2007
I WANT THAT NOW !! -- I mean 5 minutes ago !!

Damn that is sick. Thanks Nik for putting that clip on the English side.

And yes - the AH 92 can send out midi for the crossfader, I did it using the other software.
MSF 12:57 AM - 31 January, 2007
i hope this works with the video program for SSL...
Julls 1:03 AM - 31 January, 2007
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I WANT THAT NOW !! -- I mean 5 minutes ago !!


Me too!!!
nik39 1:09 AM - 31 January, 2007
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i hope this works with the video program for SSL...

?

This *IS* the video program for SSL.
Duran7609 1:10 AM - 31 January, 2007
i wonder how this would work if my mixer aint midi. any ideas?
Konix 1:11 AM - 31 January, 2007
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i wonder how this would work if my mixer aint midi. any ideas?


MIDI controller?
MSF 1:11 AM - 31 January, 2007
I mean, I hope the Xone:92 crossfader works with the video program so that It can crossfade between between videos, just like the Rane 57sl does with its crossfader.
Julls 1:12 AM - 31 January, 2007
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i hope this works with the video program for SSL...

?

This *IS* the video program for SSL.


Nik I think this is a prime example of this: www.scratchlive.net
MSF 1:12 AM - 31 January, 2007
I think if you mixer aint midi, it just works as normal and passes just the audio.
nik39 1:13 AM - 31 January, 2007
Ah okay you meant you hope that your mixer works with the video app. Gotcha. Sorry ;)
MSF 1:14 AM - 31 January, 2007
all good.. i should have been more clear.

no worries.
Duran7609 1:18 AM - 31 January, 2007
gotta start gettin all my videos ripped and prepped for this release!
Dj KaGeN 1:18 AM - 31 January, 2007
MSF - from what I saw at NAMM, I think you'll be in good shape to control the crossfader, but you will need something like M-Audio Uno (USB to Midi Connection).. I have had great success in getting midi from my 92 to work flawlessly in ableton & the crossfader for use with VirtualDJ.
Julls 1:20 AM - 31 January, 2007
Can someone give the 411 on ripping videos please? Is there like a Lame of video ripping apps?
pigpen82 1:21 AM - 31 January, 2007
pretty sweet stuff! thanks for posting in the english side!!!
nik39 1:22 AM - 31 January, 2007
I know of one tool which can rip to divx directly (almost like one click app, but still a lot more complicated that mp3 ripping), but we gotta know first which video formats SSL will support.

It would be great if Whitelabel.net would support video files.
Duran7609 1:24 AM - 31 January, 2007
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I know of one tool which can rip to divx directly (almost like one click app, but still a lot more complicated that mp3 ripping), but we gotta know first which video formats SSL will support.

It would be great if Whitelabel.net would support video files.



yeah, it would suck to start rippin my whole collection, and not know what format ssl video would prefer
Julls 1:25 AM - 31 January, 2007
Maybe Rane/Serato would be nice enough to post up what video formats will be supported, so that we can all start to get our video's ready.

If you watch that video in the link nik posted, I'm not sure if I'm the only one, but it looks like that guy was spinnin a .mov file.
Dj KaGeN 1:26 AM - 31 January, 2007
I think I read H264 was the format they were using..

en.wikipedia.org
MSF 1:34 AM - 31 January, 2007
@Kagen - Thanks for the info Kagen.
I have a MOTU 828mk2 rackmounted in the same box my xone is in...
I'm guessing that will work the same, but its using a firewire interace the computer. Im glad I wont have to buy new gear.

@Duran - Im speculating here, but from Nik39's video, there may be some on-screen software buttons to transition the video.. Thats for no mixer without MIDI.

@Nik39 - I wonder if ffmpegx can split the video from the audio file... then re-layer the video onto a separate audio track using some sort of software.. some folks were saying something about 'iMovie'? or Vegas?


I wish ableton live could export audio files with embedded video.... Does anyone know if ableton has plans on accomplishing this?
dj KarrsiN 2:13 AM - 31 January, 2007
Anyone have the link to that episode of Larry King? He did mention serato if I am not mistaken, or was that some type of edit?
Konix 2:19 AM - 31 January, 2007
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Anyone have the link to that episode of Larry King? He did mention serato if I am not mistaken, or was that some type of edit?


It was an interview with DJ Splyce, you can get it off his website... www.djsplyce.com
pigpen82 2:26 AM - 31 January, 2007
He did he was talking to DJ Splyce....


Watchwww.youtube.com
pigpen82 2:28 AM - 31 January, 2007
Oh dam Konix you must of posted while i was looking for the link thats what i get for being slow!!!
Konix 2:31 AM - 31 January, 2007
Always preview before post ;)
dj KarrsiN 2:50 AM - 31 January, 2007
Thanks Konix and pigpen82.
djkevinz 2:28 PM - 31 January, 2007
Does ableton support SMPTE time code? Then as long as you could get the data out it is theoretically possible to sync it with video.
sweetL 3:21 PM - 31 January, 2007
hey, does this mean that ill have to mix video in my serato?

thanks im new
DjWoody 7:35 PM - 31 January, 2007
This will kill the Pioneer DVJ's!!! AWESOME! I want this NOW!!!! My friend was about to drop over 5K on a new Pioneer DVJ Setup, and I showed him the video, and now I convinced him to wait til SSL with Video gets released!!! Oh boy!!!
djivanlopez.com 1:57 AM - 1 February, 2007
I think I just crapped myself!
djivanlopez.com 1:58 AM - 1 February, 2007
I meant to say, damn, SL has been the best investment ever! It just keeps on giving more and more.
Sheeds 2:23 AM - 1 February, 2007
please don't tell me this is only exclusive to the 57SL mixer..there should be something for the 56 at least!
Serato, Forum Moderator
Sam 4:18 AM - 1 February, 2007
The initial focus will be on getting video working smoothly with the 57SL - it's such a good combination, we want it to work as well as it possible can.

We don't know what video formats we will be supporting yet, it's too early to tell. We will let you know as soon as we can.
DJ Jinnai 5:45 AM - 1 February, 2007
Now I gotta buy a new External HDD for strictly videos.

Helloooooooo TAX RETURN!
The Axledental DJ 6:07 AM - 1 February, 2007
Wahoo, can we TTM57SL public beta testers test this?
dj KarrsiN 6:35 AM - 1 February, 2007
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Wahoo, can we TTM57SL public beta testers test this?


Great Ideal!
DJ Jinnai 8:13 AM - 1 February, 2007
Damn you guys! (doesn't have that mixer) :/
echey 10:33 AM - 1 February, 2007
I love my TTM :P
DJ Jinnai 10:46 AM - 1 February, 2007
LALALA! Not listening! LALALA! :D
ejayian 8:44 PM - 1 February, 2007
Please oh please say it will work with MAC
ejayian 8:45 PM - 1 February, 2007
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www.scratchlive.de <- click here to watch the video.

(Posted in the german subforum here scratchlive.net <- click)


Is the video down? a big Q comes up & it does nothing, is this only for windows?
nik39 8:52 PM - 1 February, 2007
Give it a few seconds. The big Q stands for quicktime, and its certainly not only for windows ;)
dj disturbed 8:54 PM - 1 February, 2007
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www.scratchlive.de <- click here to watch the video.

(Posted in the german subforum here scratchlive.net <- click)


Is the video down? a big Q comes up & it does nothing, is this only for windows?



lol... only for windows..... lmfao


Wonder if Apple knows that Quicktime is "only for windows now" :-P
ejayian 8:57 PM - 1 February, 2007
LOL

I guess I had a dumb moment with all this talk about video giving me a hard on
dj disturbed 9:02 PM - 1 February, 2007
:-P
djtrixxxx 9:06 PM - 1 February, 2007
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please don't tell me this is only exclusive to the 57SL mixer..there should be something for the 56 at least!

I hope not also. I don't have a 57SL mixer
ejayian 9:24 PM - 1 February, 2007
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we want it to work as well as it possible can.


WTF???? *#&$E()@*#&$)(*&#P(@*#&$)(#&$P)@*&#$)P@*#&$)P@(#&$)P@#&R#(R*Y$@#&R$

IT WORKS! IT WORKS!!!!!!

GIVE IT TO US PLEAAAAAAASEEEEE

PLEASE

PLEASE

WIth sugar on top

p l e a s e
nik39 9:51 PM - 1 February, 2007
Wow, 750 Downloads in one day.
Alixx J 11:07 PM - 1 February, 2007
nik, you need a site that gives you a pound per download...
eder 11:18 PM - 1 February, 2007
so we need a 57 to do video? it won't work with the sl-1 and a ttm56? hell...might as well save up and get dvjs...
dj disturbed 11:21 PM - 1 February, 2007
no.. you wont need a 57.... but it helps.....
eder 11:43 PM - 1 February, 2007
holla! i'm sure it'd help out overall with serato, but i don't wanna drop another g+ on equipment i already have..just curious tho, how would i, without midi, transition the videos? i'm a bit confused how that would work...thanks for any clarification
Konix 11:45 PM - 1 February, 2007
Probably an internal crossfader you'd move with a mouse/keyboard.
mizu 11:47 PM - 1 February, 2007
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holla! i'm sure it'd help out overall with serato, but i don't wanna drop another g+ on equipment i already have..just curious tho, how would i, without midi, transition the videos? i'm a bit confused how that would work...thanks for any clarification


Well i guess the scenario would be either there is a buton you push to make the video part mix while you mix the audio with your mixer. Or you could have a midi controller with a slider that you could control the video part while you mixed the audio with your mixer.
eder 11:49 PM - 1 February, 2007
mizu, you mean something like a bare bones edirol v4 or something similar? hmmm...

the button pushing wouldn't work so well, unless you set up like cue points that gradually fades in/out...
dj disturbed 11:52 PM - 1 February, 2007
I have seen foot pedal midi controllers also...... use your foot to mix the video while you are mixing on your exfader
Ratko 5:58 AM - 2 February, 2007
That looks sooo Cool!!! I was sitting 4 Months in front of my Computers recording my Vinyls to have perfect files for SSL. As I see all the videos have to be encoded to a special filetype. Again a lot of work! But I will do it! :-) Can they just let us know the exact filetype and an encoding program??? If I have to pay for it! No Problem!
Serato, Forum Moderator
Sam 6:35 AM - 2 February, 2007
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so we need a 57 to do video? it won't work with the sl-1 and a ttm56? hell...might as well save up and get dvjs...


are you sure about that: froogle.google.com ;)
sixxx 6:42 AM - 2 February, 2007
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so we need a 57 to do video? it won't work with the sl-1 and a ttm56? hell...might as well save up and get dvjs...


are you sure about that: froogle.google.com ;)


I'll have 2 of those please. Can you supersize them for ยข45 cents more?

ha!
mizu 6:43 AM - 2 February, 2007
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That looks sooo Cool!!! I was sitting 4 Months in front of my Computers recording my Vinyls to have perfect files for SSL. As I see all the videos have to be encoded to a special filetype. Again a lot of work! But I will do it! :-) Can they just let us know the exact filetype and an encoding program??? If I have to pay for it! No Problem!


I have several apps for mac that will encode. It is long and tedious I will let you know. It takes 20 minutes to rip one music video that is 8.7 gb. I am pretty sure it will be .mov,,,,i beleive that it will the most versatile. But that is just my opinion.
eder 9:20 AM - 2 February, 2007
i have hookups for deals on dj equipment, esp pioneer stuff believe it or not, plus i'd rather drop 6gs and get a whole 'nother setup (one video, one audio) than 1.5gs to have two mixers...my two cents.
ejayian 11:16 PM - 2 February, 2007
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i have hookups for deals on dj equipment, esp pioneer stuff believe it or not, plus i'd rather drop 6gs and get a whole 'nother setup (one video, one audio) than 1.5gs to have two mixers...my two cents.


Well in that case you better save your 2 cents
ejayian 11:18 PM - 2 February, 2007
how many 2 cents would I need to get 6g? About 30 thousand? Only 29 thousand 9 hundred & ninety nine more "2 cents" to go.....
mizu 11:49 PM - 2 February, 2007
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how many 2 cents would I need to get 6g? About 30 thousand? Only 29 thousand 9 hundred & ninety nine more "2 cents" to go.....


LOL
djmalcom 11:33 PM - 5 February, 2007
Typically to get the best video quality you can rip the DVD's using DVDDecrypter. This rips the DVD's without any compression (IE a 8 gig dvd is going to take up 8 gigs of space). Storage is cheap.
As far as separating the sound and video and laying the video over an already extended mix of audio there are programs for adobe premiere that will separate the two and you can import them that way into adobe and burn a new track. Search around you will find it...only took me about 8 hours.
I now have about 1 terabyte of music videos and my collection keeps growing day by day.
eder 12:48 AM - 6 February, 2007
hey, anyone know a good mpeg>avi converter or a plug-in for premiere pro that allows you to natively edit mpeg? thanks!
MSF 12:50 AM - 6 February, 2007
Roughly, how much space does a '5 minute audio' file with 'h.264 video' take up?
MSF 12:50 AM - 6 February, 2007
audio ripped from mp3 format.
djmalcom 1:14 AM - 6 February, 2007
To give you an idea of some songs and file size.

George Clinton Atomic Dog 223654kb 4:42
Cyndi Lauper Girls Just Wanna 204978kb 3:49
D-Twizzle 2:22 AM - 6 February, 2007
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Roughly, how much space does a '5 minute audio' file with 'h.264 video' take up?

Around 50MB
phil 8:41 AM - 6 February, 2007
HOOOOLY SHIT HOOOOOOOOOOOOOLY SHIT
DJ_Mike_Coquilla 9:54 AM - 6 February, 2007
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To give you an idea of some songs and file size.

George Clinton Atomic Dog 223654kb 4:42
Cyndi Lauper Girls Just Wanna 204978kb 3:49
imma gonna have ta buy hella floppy diskettes then :(
DJ Nevoc 10:32 AM - 6 February, 2007
How many videos can I get on my 8-track?
ejayian 10:44 AM - 6 February, 2007
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imma gonna have ta buy hella floppy diskettes then :(


If storing on floppy disks I recomend the 5.25" Maxell Dual Sided High Density discs
ejayian 10:47 AM - 6 February, 2007
If you really want to save money these should work fine also
en.wikipedia.org
DJ Nevoc 11:21 AM - 6 February, 2007
^^ Where is the pitch slider and master tempo on those?
HittinSkinzTa2 1:13 PM - 6 February, 2007
Screw all that... Too much work. I'm sticking with the old school way.

www.soundonsound.com
LukeSun 9:44 AM - 7 February, 2007
What do you think about to mix more than 2 videos at the same time?
like 4 channel mixer - 4 decks for video mixing... but it sounds more VJ Software??....
eder 1:11 PM - 7 February, 2007
sounds like edirol Toyko Drive Motion (it's called something like that) is what you need, Luke
DJ MDX 12:47 AM - 8 February, 2007
Damn, SAM!!!

That is the shit!

I have 2 DVJ-1000's now and that was very impressive. I am glad I also have a TTM-57 also to test with ;-)

And for you Xone:92 guys...I have one of those also to test with when that time comes around.

I started with Video's for Christmas.

I cant wait until this becomes available!!!
The Axledental DJ 5:26 AM - 8 February, 2007
Skratchworx.com has new NAMM 2007 SSL 1.7 video scratching videos!!
Goto:: www.skratchworx.com
BTW, Sam, you mentioned in one of the videos that the TTM57SL EQ knobs will work as video effects, WOW!
nik39 10:33 AM - 8 February, 2007
scratchlive.net too late Axle ;)
The Axledental DJ 5:19 PM - 8 February, 2007
I know.
DJ Czar 9:59 AM - 11 February, 2007
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hey, anyone know a good mpeg>avi converter or a plug-in for premiere pro that allows you to natively edit mpeg? thanks!

You can't "natively" edit MPEG, it is a highly compressed format, with many frames "depending" on others to be properly displayed. It is a final delivery format, not intended to be edited. If you want any precise editing of an MPEG video, it will always have to be decoded to another format, edited, and then encoded back to MPEG. That is, there will ALWAYS be a generation loss.
eder 1:34 AM - 12 February, 2007
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hey, anyone know a good mpeg>avi converter or a plug-in for premiere pro that allows you to natively edit mpeg? thanks!

You can't "natively" edit MPEG, it is a highly compressed format, with many frames "depending" on others to be properly displayed. It is a final delivery format, not intended to be edited. If you want any precise editing of an MPEG video, it will always have to be decoded to another format, edited, and then encoded back to MPEG. That is, there will ALWAYS be a generation loss.


so do you know of a good converter?
eder 1:35 AM - 12 February, 2007
plus, i know there's the mainconcept mpeg pro plugin for premiere but that's a couple hundred bucks. yeouch.
BigDookie 10:02 AM - 12 February, 2007
can we get an eta?
BigDookie 10:02 AM - 12 February, 2007
will we have to pay for this update? will it work with the sl1 box?
eder 5:18 PM - 12 February, 2007
50 bucks, i believe. and yes it will, just not as nicely as it will with the ttm57. lol this was covered already about 20 posts up, dookie.
dj disturbed 6:33 PM - 12 February, 2007
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will we have to pay for this update? will it work with the sl1 box?


it will work with SL1 box (it will use your computer 2nd monitor hook up from what we have been told) and they have not said how much it will cost yet.. only that it will be an add on app!
nik39 6:45 PM - 12 February, 2007
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it will work with SL1 box

Has that been officially confirmed? Right now I can only see TTM 57SL support.
dj disturbed 7:50 PM - 12 February, 2007
they said it in one of there post! they said you can use the internal vidxfader or a midi fader to controll it as well.
nik39 8:15 PM - 12 February, 2007
I cant remember that... can you post the link to that thread?
dj disturbed 8:24 PM - 12 February, 2007
www.scratchlive.net

Matt G
Serato, Moderator

report | quoteJanuary 22, 2007, 3:57 PM
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Within the laptop or with a 57 or with anything that does midi, or so I believe.

Midi support in SSL was also demoed at NAMM
nik39 8:49 PM - 12 February, 2007
Thanks :)
dj disturbed 8:54 PM - 12 February, 2007
np ;-)
Jordan Laws 3:19 PM - 5 March, 2007
just so you know h264 is web quality dvd quality is mpeg 2, and on average a mpeg 2 video file alone is around 150mb that doesnt include audio. Im all for video ssl however I dont know if the computing power is there to broadcast dvd quality video. Think about it, your in a club on 6 plasma screens and a projector, and your see web quality video. plus editing that stuff leads to all kinds of loss in frames and distortion. I think its gonna take a couple more years before we start seeing Perfected dvd quality video from ssl.
nik39 3:37 PM - 5 March, 2007
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just so you know h264 is web quality

Sorry, that is completely wrong. H.264 is a video codec standard, it doesnt tell you which bitrate ( = quality) you have to use, it's up to you.
nik39 3:46 PM - 5 March, 2007
en.wikipedia.org <- click.
joerockets 4:40 PM - 5 March, 2007
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just so you know h264 is web quality

Sorry, that is completely wrong. H.264 is a video codec standard, it doesnt tell you which bitrate ( = quality) you have to use, it's up to you.


Currently, I think this is the format DirectTV (Sattellite Cable Provider) has switched to for all their normal and HD channels.