agree
pretty close to this suggestion: scratchlive.net

So you're basically saying if you did instant doubles the file would map form 0 in the time code rather than where the Needle is?

yep that'd work sweet for juggling...

it would map from only the DIRECTIONAL location of the record. So if your sticker is at 3:30, Serato would cue up to the directional location of the track NEAREST the cue point.

Let's just say that your cue point is at 3minutes 30 seconds (3:30.00) and in fixed mode that cue point is at right at twelve oclock (12:00). You drop the needle at about NINE O'CLOCK (9:00) -
while the record is at 9:00, you activate the cue - Instead of jumping to 3:30:00 it jumps to 3:29.55 (1.8sec / 4 = .45 seconds ) - one quarter turn before the cue - That way when the record gets to twelve o'clock (12:00), it is RIGHT ON the cue point. This would be consist ant on BOTH turntables, so no matter where your needle is when you click the cue, the cue will always start at twelve o'clock (12:00)

This would allow beat jugglers, flangers, etc. to more easily see where samples are without having to rely completely on the computer screen. It would make my life A LOT EASIER! Anyone else? Please help support FIXED RELATIVE MODE! (yes I'm campaigning)

I know it may not make total sense, but it would be awesome!!! Please ask if you would like further clarification.

Thanks

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I see what your saying. I think i'd rather it mapped From 0, that way both would hit at the same time anyway.

That would work too. As long as it was consistant between turntables. The only problem I see with that, is when it gets to the NEXT cue point, they may NOT be the same if you cue a record up on Deck1 on CUE1 and let it get to CUE2 through simple playback, and on Deck2 cue up CUE2 through the CUE function (#keys) - in this case, deck2 would be at "zero" (12 o'clock) and the other deck will be at CUE1 (12'oclock) PLUS the amount of time it takes to get to CUE2.

This is getting complicated, but I think you'll see why this might be a problem. Especially for a rapid-fire turntablist.

DjJonez - i had the same prob as you and addressed it on this thread scratchlive.net

check it out and let me know what you think!

Drjonez, yeah completely.

totally get what your saying about the cue points as well... i think you theory is right the more i think about it. probably the only way you can REALLY align the cue points regardless.

Special tablist mode?

This would be great!

How about as well an option to automatically jump to the nearest cue point when needle dropping?

It might bet a bit messy when cue points are close together but it would avoid having to hit the cue button and would get you someway back to a traditional way of working. Instead of dropping the needle on a sticker and cueing, you would lift needle up, spin to roughly 12 o'clock (no need to be exact with DrJonez suggestion), the drop the needle roughly near the cue point using the minute grooves on the record to aim.

So you would be able to quickly jump from one cue point to another, with the stickers making sense, without having to touch anything except the tonearm or the record.

I like the needle drop idea. Us turntablists are used to dropping precisely on to stickers, so this would be a GREAT way to do cool new turntable tricks that will blow your minds!!!

(hope the serato crew is listening)

yeah, we gotta get this!

hi!

don't you just reset your marker when you jump to a cue point?

what if there were some kind of custom battle records put out

yeah. great suggestion - i want this!

That's the thing. You can't "RESET" your physical position of the record (the sticker) - but the software can adjust to the changes at hand to make your cue points consistent with each other.

I don't see how this would help... Again, the issue is that in relative mode, when you activate cue points for juggling, you're rarely going to have them line up...

Lets just say. What if it was some kind of colored vinyl with multiple locater tags pressed in the vinyl with different colors
these locater tags would send a 1-5 cue point signal to ssl


Or another idea i had was to have 5 tracks with gaps that don't connect to each other, if you want to go to the next track/cue point you gotta lift the needle and drop it into the next track. and at the end of each one of the 5 tracks it kicks it in to a replay mode or loop mode.

Am I Crazy? Do I make any sense?

this suggestion is very nice and very logical thing to do if you're playing in relative mode and want to beat juggle.

quite good i say.

i do have alot of trouble getting my record stickers in the same spot.

your idea about 5 tracks actually makes sense. the serato team needs to do this!

does anyone ever really play a 15 minute track?

I usually set my start at about 7 minutes in, - the needlez usually track better. Not to mention if I'm usin someone elses serato records, the end of the record is usally cleaner :P