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MIDI out of Serato

Garrett V. 1:08 AM 11 July 2010
I have a Denon X1600, and in MIDI, software can control the indicators in response to user input. Is there a way MIDI out of Serato could be implemented so that I can see my buttons and see what they are doing without looking at the screen?
AKIEM 10:07 PM 13 July 2010
This can be done with VSL and a QTZ file. QTZ can be used to send midi out of SSL.
Garrett V. 12:27 AM 14 July 2010
Are there any indstructions on how to compose a QTZ file? It doesn't have to do much. Just sending a midi command would be enough for me. I just want my buttons to be visible.
Garrett V. 12:28 AM 14 July 2010
*instructions

I can't type today.
benictrs 11:10 AM 16 July 2010
+1
radikarl 11:13 AM 27 August 2010
unfortunately i have to disagree with akiem

it is possible to send midi to VSL directly with a quartz composition using OSC.
so you can bypass SSL or even control it at the same time with some visual stuff if configured right with a quartz composition.
www.serato.com

but as far as i know there is no midi out from scratch live.

what akiem refers to, is a quartz compositon that works the other way than in the mentioned thread.
so you what you can do is:
you can send information via OSC out of VSL to a quartz file which then can translate it to midi or do whatever with it
its pretty much the same as in the mentioned thread, just the other way round, i tried it some time and it works.
that way you can send some information to softare like ARKAOS ant the like.

but you only can send those informations that are available in SSL
they are listed in the pdf in this file: serato.com

that is another reason why:

we need more data points.

i think what you want might be explained in a konix video.
search the forum for "midi pipe" or Traktor kontrol X1
but i can't promise you that this works for your device.
radikarl 11:17 AM 27 August 2010
ok now i understand what you want...
you have to do it the other way around:
if you hit a button, it should turn the light on by itself. that has to be possible in some way for your hardware.
then, just make sure you configure the control in SSL to relative (binary offset) mode (with the C key while mapping in midi map mode)
and to use the newest beta (21111) since there was a bug in earlier versions.
still, the konix video will help you.
AKIEM 11:36 AM 27 August 2010
radikarl is correct.

I went to far in trying to publicize the greatness of QTZ.
(we need more data points)

sorry bout that
Garrett V. 2:05 AM 31 August 2010
Is there an app for OSX that can generate a constant MIDI signal? I just need my lights to show up, they don't need to respond to anything. With the new Hybrid MIDI FW update coming out for the Denon 3700's, I'm going to be left in the dark, and I at least want to see where my buttons and knobs are.
radikarl 8:19 AM 3 September 2010
www.djtechtools.com
this is why we need midi out.
it's just not fair.
when i saw this i was like "i'm not gonna buy the dicer if i can't fully remap it in SL"
BERTO 12:39 AM 6 September 2010
so with midi out we could keep akai lpd8 pads lit all the time?
radikarl 7:09 AM 6 September 2010
i don't know enough about the lpd-8 but my guess is yes.

right now, you should try the app called midi pipe and watch the konix videos where he explains on how to use the Traktor Kontrol X1 Lights.
that gives you at least to some point what you want.

The idea behind this is, if there comes no midi out of serato, then put something (midi pipe) inbetween your controller and scratchlive, and make this something behave as you would scratchlive expect to do. on the controller end, it receives midi data, but it also sends data to turn the lights on.
on the scratchlive end, it just forwards what it receives from the controller. this of course needs some additional configuration. and it stops working well for toggled lights if you change something with your mouse or a keystroke in scratchlive, since midi pipe can't know about the change then and the behaviour would therefore be reversed to what you want until you change it again with something other than the controller.
so you have to "sync" the controller to the gui and keep it synced.

now i have a question to someone who owns a pair of Dicers
if you are on the loop page, and turn an autoLoop on with another controller or with "alt+1" - will the light on the dicer turn on?
wrosenbl12 10:53 PM 6 September 2010
+1 for midi out
thebuttonfreak 12:30 AM 7 September 2010
PLEASE give us midi out.
soularus 8:14 AM 5 October 2010
+1 for MIDI out. I use a Launchpad to trigger clips in The Bridge. I have the "user" page on the LP devoted to SSL cue points. If I could get these to light up when a Cue point was active (and to show other cue point status) it would be excellent.

Perhaps they don't allow it because if they did, it would decrease the value in dedicated control surfaces, and discourage hardware manufacturers from developing them specifically for SSL?
lindsaymar 1:51 AM 8 October 2010
+1 Midi out
BERTO 2:14 AM 29 October 2010
this needs to happen asap, midi out and midi deck control would catch up with traktors new price drop
BERTO 4:15 PM 21 December 2010
midi out bump
grinch85 4:38 PM 21 December 2010
+1
Henry GQ 6:26 AM 22 December 2010
+1 and different color leds for the rane 68 :)
radikarl 3:47 PM 22 December 2010
Quote:
this needs to happen asap, midi out and midi deck control would catch up with traktors new price drop

www.serato.com

oh, and
"+1", (as on the other zillion threads requesting midi out)
Cheap Monk 2:18 AM 23 December 2010
+1 for midi out
grinch85 9:23 AM 23 December 2010
serato with midi-out,new main waveform,colored crates,HID at his best...Traktor can only sucks..
benictrs 5:43 PM 24 December 2010
+100000ziliontrion . . . bilion
Dave BEE 10:11 PM 24 December 2010
Ya midi out is a big one!!!!!
BERTO 4:04 PM 31 December 2010
has to be compatible with sl1 too ...
BERTO 8:27 PM 3 January 2011
bump for the 3rd of january
grinch85 8:34 PM 3 January 2011
bump 2011
Henry GQ 1:52 AM 4 January 2011
BUMP
Evon 9:27 PM 5 January 2011
+1
benictrs 4:41 AM 6 January 2011
+1
grinch85 7:35 PM 9 January 2011
bump
benictrs 7:53 PM 9 January 2011
+1
DJSi UK 7:00 PM 10 January 2011
Midi Out, Midi Out, Midi Out, Midi Out, one more thing Midi Out
wrosenbl12 7:30 PM 10 January 2011
pleazzz...
DJsolution 3:44 PM 13 February 2011
+1 wake up serato
grinch85 4:20 PM 13 February 2011
i feel totally ignored
Dj Farhan 2:28 AM 18 February 2011
+ 1
smokeyjoe 6:55 PM 18 February 2011
Would midipipe not work ?

Thats what i use
DJsolution 11:26 PM 19 February 2011
I've tried midipipe and it doesn't work, nor is the program user friendly but if you know a way to make it work I'm sure every one her would be appreciative of you sharing

I'm trying to get my denon hc 100s button to stay dimly lighten at all time and have the button get brighter when they are in function
grinch85 3:12 AM 20 February 2011
Konix tutorial on youtube will show you the way...search "serato tutor midi out" or something like that
grinch85 3:12 AM 20 February 2011
sorry "Serato x1 control"
DJsolution 12:39 PM 20 February 2011
i've tried the same method doesnt work, he fails to mention how the program really works
grinch85 12:40 PM 20 February 2011
he perfectly says how it works..
smokeyjoe 7:34 PM 20 February 2011
I followed his instruction to.........start midi pipe then move midi in and midi out into the pipe section and select the x1 controller (if needed) and your done ....easy
DJsolution 2:44 AM 21 February 2011
what about midi pipe working with the Denon HC 100s. I'm trying to basically do the same thing with my buttons on theDenon HC 100s as Konix did with his knotrol x1 buttons.
Blackie Lox 12:00 AM 24 February 2011
+1 for Midi Out
martyx 7:08 PM 24 February 2011
+1 for midi out
thebuttonfreak 8:20 PM 31 March 2011
+ 1x10^23
dj-jv 8:53 PM 31 March 2011
I agree on midi out. I dont mine It could be internal or external as on the hardware! Thank you,
grinch85 11:36 PM 25 April 2011
+1
jepe 4:52 PM 26 April 2011
+1
Vinylfriendly 8:24 PM 29 April 2011
+1 for Midi Out
DJ Dub Cowboy 12:16 AM 30 April 2011
+3

because I have bumped at least 2 other threads about the same thing
inverse 4:08 PM 30 April 2011
!+1
DJ MARCOS MAD 4:09 AM 3 May 2011
Midi Out please.
grinch85 4:31 PM 8 August 2011
+100000
Taiko 9:02 PM 16 August 2011
MIDI out would be great. I hate to be that guy, but Traktor has a much better system for handling MIDI In/Out, actually mapping controllers and can even send MIDI clock. I'd love to see something comparable to Traktor's mapping possibilities.
icb 10:07 AM 18 August 2011
+1
nechronics 2:23 PM 18 August 2011
+100
no reason not to have this, get on top of it
thebuttonfreak 11:29 PM 18 August 2011
I just wish they would tell us why for once. What could the reason possibly be?
Dj Wunder 9:45 AM 28 August 2011
It would be really cool if there was some way for SSL to transmit on/off and position information back to a midi device, like a "Midi Out" sorta deal...
Alex Apogee 11:40 PM 5 September 2011
+1
antFastic 10:44 PM 7 September 2011
+1 from me too, this would be so useful as MIDI controllers aren't half as intuitive to use without feedback / status lights. Would like to be able to program them to suit my needs.
DJBIGWIZ 5:42 AM 9 September 2011
+1
schlabber 7:59 AM 14 September 2011
+1
Jay Jack 10:43 AM 14 September 2011
+ 1 for midi out
djPhysicist 1:17 AM 27 September 2011
+1
DJNickieK 4:08 AM 11 October 2011
i just want my 3700s to light up in hybrid mode please? kthanks. :)
N.Dee. Rick 11:59 AM 11 October 2011
+1

I just mapped my Launchpad with Katapult and it works fantastic for me. I´m just missing an update of my LEDs when things are turned on in SSL :-( please give us midi-out.

did anybody of you work with bome miditranslator? could there be a possibility to program the LED status of the Launchpad with this program, since Novation released the programmer guide?
Mr Wilks 3:23 AM 12 October 2011
+1
DJNickieK 7:07 AM 12 October 2011
i just want my 3700s to light up in hybrid mode please? kthanks. :)
grinch85 7:23 AM 13 October 2011
unbelievable that no one at serato cares about the midi out question...
N.Dee. Rick 12:35 PM 13 October 2011
Hi,
i solved the problem with my Launchpad with a workaround, with katapult and bome midi translator. now my pad shows the aktivated button. When I enter a 16 beat loop for example and the press another button to loop 8 beats and 4 beats and so on...the hit botton lights always up, while the others don´t. Its still a wordaround but and the Launchpad receives no feedback from serato, but it works great for me.
N.Dee. Rick 12:37 PM 13 October 2011
... button lights up and stays on till I hit the next or deactivate it
tobias rockit 4:17 AM 14 October 2011
+1 for MIDI out
schlabber 6:06 AM 14 October 2011
+1
DJ Uh-Oh 4:36 PM 18 December 2011
Did MIDI out support ever get added? If not, +1000.
TheGemCityBoss 12:14 AM 19 December 2011
Come One Serato with iOS and software like Lemur and TouchOSC being literally tailored to the software not having midi out is insane. I mean what doesn't have midi out??
BERTO 5:00 AM 20 December 2011
Please release midi out
ElectronicMagnetPulse;Error 1:48 AM 22 December 2011
Seriously, midi out would be great!
Mr Wilks 3:25 PM 24 December 2011
I'm gonna +1 this again just for the hell of it. I NEED this in my life!
the SOUNDINSURGENT 4:17 PM 24 December 2011
+1 on this, never understood why they left it out.......
BERTO 5:56 PM 24 December 2011
there was an interview online a while back that explained why they didnt but i cant find it

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