This can be done with VSL and a QTZ file. QTZ can be used to send midi out of SSL.

Are there any indstructions on how to compose a QTZ file? It doesn't have to do much. Just sending a midi command would be enough for me. I just want my buttons to be visible.

*instructions

I can't type today.

+1

unfortunately i have to disagree with akiem

it is possible to send midi to VSL directly with a quartz composition using OSC.
so you can bypass SSL or even control it at the same time with some visual stuff if configured right with a quartz composition.
www.serato.com

but as far as i know there is no midi out from scratch live.

what akiem refers to, is a quartz compositon that works the other way than in the mentioned thread.
so you what you can do is:
you can send information via OSC out of VSL to a quartz file which then can translate it to midi or do whatever with it
its pretty much the same as in the mentioned thread, just the other way round, i tried it some time and it works.
that way you can send some information to softare like ARKAOS ant the like.

but you only can send those informations that are available in SSL
they are listed in the pdf in this file: serato.com

that is another reason why:

we need more data points.

i think what you want might be explained in a konix video.
search the forum for "midi pipe" or Traktor kontrol X1
but i can't promise you that this works for your device.

ok now i understand what you want...
you have to do it the other way around:
if you hit a button, it should turn the light on by itself. that has to be possible in some way for your hardware.
then, just make sure you configure the control in SSL to relative (binary offset) mode (with the C key while mapping in midi map mode)
and to use the newest beta (21111) since there was a bug in earlier versions.
still, the konix video will help you.

radikarl is correct.

I went to far in trying to publicize the greatness of QTZ.
(we need more data points)

sorry bout that

Is there an app for OSX that can generate a constant MIDI signal? I just need my lights to show up, they don't need to respond to anything. With the new Hybrid MIDI FW update coming out for the Denon 3700's, I'm going to be left in the dark, and I at least want to see where my buttons and knobs are.

www.djtechtools.com
this is why we need midi out.
it's just not fair.
when i saw this i was like "i'm not gonna buy the dicer if i can't fully remap it in SL"

so with midi out we could keep akai lpd8 pads lit all the time?

i don't know enough about the lpd-8 but my guess is yes.

right now, you should try the app called midi pipe and watch the konix videos where he explains on how to use the Traktor Kontrol X1 Lights.
that gives you at least to some point what you want.

The idea behind this is, if there comes no midi out of serato, then put something (midi pipe) inbetween your controller and scratchlive, and make this something behave as you would scratchlive expect to do. on the controller end, it receives midi data, but it also sends data to turn the lights on.
on the scratchlive end, it just forwards what it receives from the controller. this of course needs some additional configuration. and it stops working well for toggled lights if you change something with your mouse or a keystroke in scratchlive, since midi pipe can't know about the change then and the behaviour would therefore be reversed to what you want until you change it again with something other than the controller.
so you have to "sync" the controller to the gui and keep it synced.

now i have a question to someone who owns a pair of Dicers
if you are on the loop page, and turn an autoLoop on with another controller or with "alt+1" - will the light on the dicer turn on?

+1 for midi out

PLEASE give us midi out.

+1 for MIDI out. I use a Launchpad to trigger clips in The Bridge. I have the "user" page on the LP devoted to SSL cue points. If I could get these to light up when a Cue point was active (and to show other cue point status) it would be excellent.

Perhaps they don't allow it because if they did, it would decrease the value in dedicated control surfaces, and discourage hardware manufacturers from developing them specifically for SSL?

+1 Midi out

this needs to happen asap, midi out and midi deck control would catch up with traktors new price drop

midi out bump

+1

+1 and different color leds for the rane 68 :)

www.serato.com

oh, and
"+1", (as on the other zillion threads requesting midi out)

+1 for midi out

serato with midi-out,new main waveform,colored crates,HID at his best...Traktor can only sucks..

+100000ziliontrion . . . bilion

Ya midi out is a big one!!!!!

has to be compatible with sl1 too ...

bump for the 3rd of january

bump 2011

BUMP

+1

+1

bump

+1

Midi Out, Midi Out, Midi Out, Midi Out, one more thing Midi Out

pleazzz...

+1 wake up serato

i feel totally ignored

+ 1

Would midipipe not work ?

Thats what i use

I've tried midipipe and it doesn't work, nor is the program user friendly but if you know a way to make it work I'm sure every one her would be appreciative of you sharing

I'm trying to get my denon hc 100s button to stay dimly lighten at all time and have the button get brighter when they are in function

Konix tutorial on youtube will show you the way...search "serato tutor midi out" or something like that

sorry "Serato x1 control"

i've tried the same method doesnt work, he fails to mention how the program really works

he perfectly says how it works..

I followed his instruction to.........start midi pipe then move midi in and midi out into the pipe section and select the x1 controller (if needed) and your done ....easy

what about midi pipe working with the Denon HC 100s. I'm trying to basically do the same thing with my buttons on theDenon HC 100s as Konix did with his knotrol x1 buttons.

+1 for Midi Out

+1 for midi out

+ 1x10^23

I agree on midi out. I dont mine It could be internal or external as on the hardware! Thank you,

+1

+1

+1 for Midi Out

+3

because I have bumped at least 2 other threads about the same thing

!+1

Midi Out please.

+100000

MIDI out would be great. I hate to be that guy, but Traktor has a much better system for handling MIDI In/Out, actually mapping controllers and can even send MIDI clock. I'd love to see something comparable to Traktor's mapping possibilities.

+1

+100
no reason not to have this, get on top of it

I just wish they would tell us why for once. What could the reason possibly be?

It would be really cool if there was some way for SSL to transmit on/off and position information back to a midi device, like a "Midi Out" sorta deal...

+1

+1 from me too, this would be so useful as MIDI controllers aren't half as intuitive to use without feedback / status lights. Would like to be able to program them to suit my needs.

+1

+1

+ 1 for midi out

+1

i just want my 3700s to light up in hybrid mode please? kthanks. :)

+1

I just mapped my Launchpad with Katapult and it works fantastic for me. I´m just missing an update of my LEDs when things are turned on in SSL :-( please give us midi-out.

did anybody of you work with bome miditranslator? could there be a possibility to program the LED status of the Launchpad with this program, since Novation released the programmer guide?

+1

i just want my 3700s to light up in hybrid mode please? kthanks. :)

unbelievable that no one at serato cares about the midi out question...

Hi,
i solved the problem with my Launchpad with a workaround, with katapult and bome midi translator. now my pad shows the aktivated button. When I enter a 16 beat loop for example and the press another button to loop 8 beats and 4 beats and so on...the hit botton lights always up, while the others don´t. Its still a wordaround but and the Launchpad receives no feedback from serato, but it works great for me.

... button lights up and stays on till I hit the next or deactivate it

+1 for MIDI out

+1

Did MIDI out support ever get added? If not, +1000.

Come One Serato with iOS and software like Lemur and TouchOSC being literally tailored to the software not having midi out is insane. I mean what doesn't have midi out??

Please release midi out

Seriously, midi out would be great!

I'm gonna +1 this again just for the hell of it. I NEED this in my life!

+1 on this, never understood why they left it out.......

there was an interview online a while back that explained why they didnt but i cant find it

My Denon Dns 3700 wants to be connected with Serato.Tnx

I want to program my Twitch controller to be tthe ultimate Scratch/Video midi controller so I can use the cues and loops and video effects all while leaving the Dicers. We just need light output and a way to delete cues properly on the unit and i'd be happy.

+1

There shouldn't even be a need to explain why this matters, and somehow nothing's been done about this 2-year-old thread.

If you know how to modify your midi .xml files manually, you can try using the following MIDI command to map your delete cue buttons...

This example is for deleting CUE 1 on Deck A (the "#" refers to whatever midi channel/notes you are mapping the delete button to).

< Control name="Delete Cue Point Button A0" channel="#" event_type="Note On" control="#" />

The commands for the other buttons are as follows...

Deck A:
CUE 2: Control name="Delete Cue Point Button A1"
CUE 3: Control name="Delete Cue Point Button A2"
CUE 4: Control name="Delete Cue Point Button A3"
CUE 5: Control name="Delete Cue Point Button A4"

Deck B:
CUE 1: Control name="Delete Cue Point Button B0"
CUE 2: Control name="Delete Cue Point Button B1"
CUE 3: Control name="Delete Cue Point Button B2"
CUE 4: Control name="Delete Cue Point Button B3"
CUE 5: Control name="Delete Cue Point Button B4"

This is the method I used to map the Clear Cue buttons on my Denon DN-S3700's. I have no method of getting LED output to work as yet (waiting to see what info Serato is going to provide when they release their .xml file with LED output support for the upcoming Denon SC3900), but I hope this helps your other issue... since the kind people at Serato HQ won't.

+1

Thanks Blackie Lox.

I had heard it can be done but searched for the relevent code to insert but kept drawing blanks and dead-ends.

If i remember there was also a platter one too that is floating around from the Stanton SCS touch controller?

I'll give this a whurl sometime in the week... thanking you muchly!

You're welcome. Let me know if it works!

+1

bump for midi out

+1

I really want this, i would love to map my APC40 to efx and cues just to just it a shot, but the feedback so the led's would respond is a must.

We share the same dream :)

+1

Xone K2 is coming out next week, would be awesome if SSL had midi out

I wanna try the new xone. I have a 92 and love it.

I'm looking into Xone K2 too,taking place left side to my Xone92!Let's hope we'll have midi out soon!
+1

Me has MIDI output... :)

+1 midi out, would love to use my Twitch with My TTM57 and NOT have to run two screens and programs.

also, adding all the hidden XML midi tricks (dicer style hot cues, shift modifiers, etc) into the GUI would be nice....

i would love to see midi out in serato!
does anybody from serato read this?

I want it too!!!

+1 for midi out

Yes please...
Midi out for my X1 lights
No need for 3rd party software then!!!

Yeah midi out would be awesome.

pretty please

Actually something like dis may eliminate me using my MPD24 anymore!! ha lol hhmmm def wouldn't mind dis same dream!! Loving the APC40 =o)

I bought my APC 40 for playing with the bridge, and stopped using the bridge regularly now, so all my apc gets used for is controlling Grand VJ. But this idea would be sweet. .

I have the APC20 and want to do pretty much the same thing! Please make Midi Out happen! :D

+1 for midi out! VDJ has had this for ages already!

Yes +1 another year

OMG I woke up this morning and came straight to my PC to put in this suggestion... and to find its at the top of the list already LOL

+20000000000000000000

Please add this guys.

Any word from serato as to why it isnt a feature?

This must be one of the most request features of that people want added to serato.
Me personally I'm hoping so see a major update to serato in the near future which would include this feature and a fix to the looping problem serato currently has.

+1

Soon

Now that I bought even one more akai midi, +1 for sure ;D

+100

+1

+1

+1

+ 1

With all these midi controllers... Would be so nice if we could map multiple midi cc's/notes to a button or knob. Same as M.E :)

Yep, need MIDI out. Will it happen ever ?

if SSL has no midi out,why then when you hit a new cue point with laptop keyboard it show up on the dicer?

if you can get it working with dicer why not other controllers?

please +101 for midi out

Because the dicers are natively supported by serato, which means they actually use HID control not MIDI when being used with serato. Same thing with CDJ2000's.

OK cool,thanks for the info.

now i know nothing about HID control so where's a good place to get the low down about it?

Not really much to know. Its the same kind of control as a keyboard or mouse uses. Nothing that will help you in anyway unless you wanna program like hell. HID on the CDJ 2000 and Dicers contains midi signal. But also has propitiatory information for controlling the lights display and such.

midi out isn't just needed, it's a must if SSL wants to make it into the next half of this decade imo. Love the program but midi out would be amazing.

Iv been waiting for years. Serato are asleep I think ;)

Soon be patient

oh?? how do you know soon?

This is one of the most needed stuff in serato atm. If not THE one.

Internet ;)

come on share with us!

“@Serato: @bertomanfred Thanks Alberto. We're working on that one :)”

been having this problem with my X1, but since had the NI program to dim the lights worked fine...

But now I changed to XoneK2 and can't see anything... midi out would be awesome, but could be just happy if someone could give-me a solution how to dim the lights with midi pipe

damn i wish i could believe everything on internet

Midi out and for g.. sake, please give us the opportunity to use other devices then the much too large pioneer cdjs (HID/ midi from the jog wheel :)

+1.
Midi out for Scratch Live and Kontrol X1

+1

I would like to be able to set midi notes on individual tracks, the way you can set cue points, and have that be able to go MIDI out, into my lighting console to trigger all the scenes, shows, chases and functions. I'd like my lighting designer to be able to program the consol, but the midi off my tracks to cue it.

+1

Yeah it would be great to have it, and see wich hot cues are stored, cuz last night i was a bit wasted in a dark club (...) and oh ! i played the wrong cue...
So i got fired.... Epic fail

Who gets fired for playing one wrong cue ??? Prehaps you got fired for beeing " wasted " not for playin the wrong cue ;)

would be great to associate a dmx chase to a song... I do this manually with luminair but it's a distraction an not tempo-synced

Can't we just get a answer to if and when midi out is coming??? @g-rod If you want to light your k2 up just map it in traktor and set what ever leds you want on. Then just start an close traktor before you open ssl an the LEDs stay on. It's a pain but at least you can light it up as you want.

Or just open SSL make a Screenshot than open Traktor than deinstall ssl and open the image. Start djing with traktor and everytime a "serato sheriff" checks your software just show him the serato screenshot... ;)

^^^ no I really don't like traktors GUI also there support is poor. Serato just need to realise its not 1990 anymore. People are using midi controllers. Most the house Djs I watch use midi controllers an more an more commercial Djs are. Yet serato don't offer ssl and decent midi support

Sick of having to open controller editor to make midi lights work on my X1

pllzzzzz implement midi out!!

+++200034

Do NOT like how Serato had not a SINGLE COMMENT...I'd rather an acknowledgement that said "thanks for the feedback, we are working on making Midi work" "We hear you, and we thank you for purchasing Serato", even an "Midi won't work with the current SL setup, but we will create another SL that will have midi out"...something! The people who have help make you who you are today are pleading with you to respond!!!

THey said they are lookinginto it on twitter...

Can we here anything here or???

+1 for MIDI out

again, urgent!!! +1

why serato has slept on this basic feature i can no comprehend.

^^^^ can't agree more!! I think all these other serato program's are being worked on and ssl isn't. This thread is 2 years old and nothing has happened!

Make that 2 and a half yearsssss

The request is MUCH older then 2 years (for the record)

Wheres the midi?? wheres the serato guys??

Its funny Serato states that they are open to taking feature suggestions, and with enough people wanting anything they will add it. Well I don't think there has been a single feature with this many request for it!

Serato what do you say about that? When are we getting this feature. We waited longer for a Video SL update.

No mention of midi out or serato mod but i bet if you start a for sale ad they come quick nm

For sale sl4 cant get midi to work lol

WE WANT MIDI OUT

What if we all report ever single post on this thread to the mods have no choice but to look at this thread?

......... requested on July 10, 2012 by Garret V.

2010 not 2012

And i said report not quote.

Fixed... HaHaHa....
Just reminding these mods that we have been asking on here since 2010.

I brought traktor just because of no midi out, but I prefer seratos simplicity and the way to map etc. they seriously need to sort this out

Just had my DJM T1.It comes with traktor wonder if I should try it?

why Rane hope we forgot midi out ?

Yoo Hoo I know its christmas day but WHERES THE MIDI OUT??

+1000 I would love to use my dns3700's instead of tech 12's and denon hc1000s

+1 MIDI out for SSL allready

+1 (again)

If there is no MIDI out, how do native controllers respond to what is going on within Serato (mainly the LEDs on the hot cues of a 4500.).?

Because they dont use MIDI

They use HID

Majority of the DN-HC4500 uses MIDI. Even for some of the Display.

But they do not respond via midi... there is no midi out in serato the way the lights are being triggered is HID.

Check out the manual "LED data reception" starting on page 15. www.dm-pro.eu MIDI out into the 4500 triggers the lights to go on, off and flash. Even most of the display.

While using MIDI-OX, I'm able to turn on all the LED's plus some of the display.

Lite ‘em Up! software only uses MIDI out, and it turns most of the 3700 lights on. skunkiebutt.com

SSL doesn't truly support MIDI out yet.

I know this..... I said this.

I read this...

Which was incorrect.


Which is also incorrect. SSL cannot use HID to tell a LED light to go on that only responds to MIDI. Serato uses MIDI out for the supported controllers. HID is usually for the complicated displays, not simple button back lighting.

This was originally requested July 10, 2010.

Just curious as to why Serato would delay this for so long. What do they have to lose?

nothing to loose. But lots to program lots of changes to make make to add it. And I am sure that if they dont make it perfect everyone who has posted in this thread would complain and make a big stink. So from there stand point; do we go though the effort to add this feature as a small update and chance fucking it up and deal with all the flak for not having it perfect (which, they will never ba able todo, someone will always complain) or save it for some serato 3.0 update. I can see why they haven't done it yet.

Really? But doesn't it already output MIDI for native controllers? I could be wrong, but if it already outputs MIDI for native controllers, I can't imagine it being that much harder for it to output MIDI in general. I have a small Denon 1000 sub controller, and the LED hot starts correspond to what is on the screen, why would it be so hard to simply tell us what commands they are and have us match it in an XML file that we make? Maybe I am presenting a simplistic view here....

+10000000000000000000000000

Just as I note for all the people that want this...
On facebook today:
"Serato- MIDI output is a big one. We're working on that."

when reading it in context it leads me to believe its not coming anytime soon. We have to wait for a Big update.

I more concerned with CDJ2000nexus HID at the moment.

+1 need midi out asap !

What is for a politic to keep midi out away like that ??? 2 years waiting is way too long !

Just thinking to go on traktor :-(

+1 for midi out!!!!!

+1 for mid out and don't forget the midi clock!

Midi clock is a must!
I wonder if there is a way to send 2 midi clocks. One for each deck. Or have a button to switch which deck is master.

Wait till serato dj and scratch live are integrated then you will have sync as well.
Im sure it will eventually go that way makes no sense 2 develop 2 programs at the same time

+1 lets get this done already

I said this years ago.
MIDI OUT - pleeeeeeease.

Me too...but maybe not for the same reasons Code:E, I just ordered 2 CDJ2000 Nexus players with the intent to learn how to use them on both Traktor and SSL. Although it will be a bit of a learning curve to switch many of my updated music from Serato Crates to Traktor Pro, I believe that Recordbox will help support it. Plus, Serato is showing me through their lack of communication and support that I do not matter and as a whole, what drives them to create software is no longer the DJ that uses Serato. Pretty sad to say, but I am at that point. Please Serato, it feels like a tipping point is around the corner, and a mass exodus may happen. Not that I am anyone special, but I am sure that I speak for many many others when I say this: It's better (and less expensive in the long run) to KEEP your customers than to try and BRING THEM BACK!

I quite like record box and if ur going down the cdj 2000 route unless your playing videos id change.The sound from the djm2000 sounds amazing even compared to the sl4 box

+1 for midi out

+1 midi out.... again. Please Serato.

Then everybody who is disappointed with The Bridge, and has since figured out how to use Ableton and other controllers, can stop complaining.

I will say thank you for forcing me to learn midi-mapping though.
I'd love to stay with Serato but this is a major feature these days.

+1

Also +1 on MIDI out.

I just want my little Kontrol X1 buttons to light up when I enable/disable effects, loops, etc.

Waiting for Serato to enable midi out.

+1

I'm probably jumping ship end of july if nothings being announced or brought out. New busy year coming up, need a month to get my traktor down right

I think I'm with you on this. I have Traktor Scratch 1 and need a new £100 upgrade kit to go to Traktor Scratch 2 (as the upgrade period has expired), but I'm tempted to do it now the remix decks can be mapped to my Launchpad.

Snap quantize and remix decks along with superior sounding keylock and FX. It's just too tempting now.

I've flown the flag for Scratch Live for many years but now I feel I'm getting left behind a little now with new innovation. Don't get me wrong, I'm not slating SL or making empty threats to try and prove a point, I just feel I think I can maybe improve my game by changing to a system I already own (Audio 8).
I'll still keep my SL3 but over here in Europe I feel the Traktor boys have an advantage when playing tracks quickly and making live edits using the jump to cue and jump to loop markers. I feel this will improve my style in a resort that relies heavily on short edits to bang as many in in a short space of time.

I'll hang fire for a few weeks to see what is coming before making the Traktor 1 to Traktor 2 upgrade but if I'm not wowed, I'm pretty sure I'll make the switch.
I just hope there is something pretty special as over at Serato they have been very quiet recently. I'm waiting for the upgrade for my Twitch to "DJ" still and could be rocking Traktor on that too (with the included overlay).

Twitch + Launchpad makes a killer setup with Traktor's Remix Decks and I can't ignore that.

You do not need MIDI out for this.

Set it up in the NI Controller Editor. There's SOOOO much info on this on this site and beyond that I'm surprised it keeps coming up.

you need midi out for the x1 to be in sync with serato. yes you can enable the led with the controller editor, but without midi out the x1 will not be aware of ssl's current state.

for example say you map a button to loop. when you press the button the led will light up. but what if the loop was already enabled in ssl? now the x1 says the loop is on and in ssl the loop off.

let's not settle here...serato needs midi out. it's a basic feature that should've been there when 1.0 was released.

+1000

Same goes for my DJM-T1 mixer. The buttons light up dim when plugged in to USB, but other than that, if I activate/deactivate something, the lights stay the way they are. Hardware visual feedback is essential to my workflow

Yep.



Yes & no. I don't use loops, but what you say is correct when I engage disengage FX assignment. But, when I toggle on/off on the X1 once, it does pick the state up that it should be in. Could possibly be the way I mapped the X1 as there are various ways to do it, but it does in fact work.



Totally agree. Just pointing out that NI did us SSL users a solid and in turn probably helped move more units for themselves by allowing us to get 90% of the way there with their controller editor.

midi out please +1000

Well anyone noticed the "Scratch Live MIDI Presets" sticky on the forum?

HERE WE GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2.5 is out, with MIDI output lighting!

serato.com

But only Light on/off mid messages work. It wont light up LED rings like on the APC40

Bugger. I wanted that.

Oh well... I'm not complaining (just yet).

I really wanted that as well. This means i would be able to send out midi data to touch OCS. which really sucks!

BUG ALERT!

When the SP-6 is closed and a sample is trigged on the Launchpad, the light stays active after the sample as played and until the SP-6 is opened again.

This looks like a bug in SL and not a mapping error.

Haven't had a chance to test, away from the lab for a minute.

Can anyone confirm for me if this means midi out works on the TTM 62 with serato?

it sends note on/off 0 or 127 to the same note/channel mapped to the control. but it's not on every control.

-it needs to be on more controls (such as cuepoints)
-ssl needs to send midi clock out

LOL, this thread started in 2010... it took 3 years to implement lighting up a simple led via midi.

such a great Company :-P

You're being unfair here. It did not take them 3 years to implement it. Of course not. I assume they started to implement and working on this feature "recently".

It's actually the same MIDI Out code that the DN-HC4500 uses which had Native Support over 3 years ago. It was not implemented because they started charging for Native Support. This also led to Serato DJ.

Can you send notes 0-127 for different colors?

cues actually do send out. but the led on/off option is not there.

@J.J. you can't choose the notes/cc or values that are sent out. only 0 or 127 is sent out. so no...no colors.

AS far as i know, NO. Its is very upsetting to me.

2nd BUG ALERT! (but this is in the mapping of the Launchpad .xml).

Using the Launchpad, loop roll number 5 (1 beat loop roll) isn't lit green but is active when pressed. When pressed it lights up the existing standard 1 beat loop slot number!

Error :(

Well... MIDI out is not what I expected. :(

I'm sure it's a wonderful feature for controllers and MIDI keypads, but I was hoping more for this...

Set "MIDI cue points" within a song to trigger MIDI effects in other software. ie. lighting software and DMX controls. As the song plays, the cue points would trigger lighting effects, pyrotechnics, fog machines, or any other DMX/MIDI controlled effect.

MIDI cue points could be on/off triggers (similar to regular cue points, but with an "off" marker as well) or a selectable region (similar to loop sections) that would turn on MIDI notes in other software.
I suppose even 1 MIDI cue (on/off combo) would be good - I could just set up my actual effects in the MIDI software, but multiple cues would be great... similar to multiple loop sections, but they can be run simultaneously. I don't know, make 3 of them per track - RGB and if they overlap each other, you get purples, and yellows and such. OR... they could only be visible (and adjustable) in the off-line payer!


Thank you Serato for the hard work anyways! Keep it up.

cues only send midi out when the cue is triggered. so no feedback on your controller as to which cues are available.

also the cues don't send midi out on track load. goes hand in hand with the first point. when switching songs, ssl would need to send midi out so that the cue buttons on the controller reflect cue status in ssl.

Ouch

Your kidding...right?

I hope so!

i wish i was kidding. i spent the last 2 days with midi monitor, ipad w/lemur, traktor kontrol x1, rane sl2 and 62.

this 1.0 version of 'midi out' is maaad basic.

MAAAAAD basic. I really hope for a lot more in the future. Again something close to what ME has or better.

THE GOOD
1. It does light all the CUE LEDs when a song is loaded.

2. You can also change the output Value in the XML file. 0 through 127. If you MIDI Map a button in SSL, it defaults to 0 and 127. For instance, on my VCI-380, CUE Pad 1 can export MIDI for RED, CUE Pad 2 = YELLOW, CUE Pad 3 = GREEN etc.

THE BAD
I've ran into nothing but problems when you do it in SSL instead of editing a XML file.
1. It sometimes creates 4 MIDI outputs code when only 1 is needed. Weird stuff.

2. It turns OFF the lights on the 62.

3. It looks to create an accurate MIDI out while creating a Hot Cue 1 in SSL. The button is 23 for control="23".

4. But nothing happens. I have to copy the Denon S3900 code and change the MIDI channel. It works good with this:

But now I have to go to value="1 to 127" to figure out what light turns what on for the DN-SC2000. Why can't it be easy to assign the same button to the output like in Traktor. <-- I never thought I would say that, but the latest version of Traktor sure has made it easy to program LEDs.

5. What is space " Button A"?

6. Why hasn't SERATO added a button to divide a loop and a button to multiply a loop. You have to assign this to a knob. You can easily click 2 times clockwise on a knob as opposed to just hitting a button. And I'm missing something here? Is this possible?

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THE GOOD
3. While no loop, the Loop In and Loop Out buttons do not light up. If there is a saved Loop 1-9 or Temp Loop, the Loop In/Out buttons will be ON. While any loop is active, the Loop In/Out buttons will be flashing. Very cool feedback.

4. While in Loop Roll or Auto Loop, the Auto Loop button will be ON. Great feedback because you know you can /2 or X2 the loop with a knob.

THE BAD
7. A piano is playing the MIDI output messages inside Windows 7, not from the RANE hardware. I don't believe I have any BOME's MIDI Translaters in the background. Does anyone know how to get rid of this on Windows 7.

8. Scratch Live 2.5.0 keeps crashing on Windows 7. Even if I go to Windows Task Manager, right-click ScratchLive.exe and select End Process... nothing happens. I have to either reboot or log off and log back on. WHAT HAPPENED TO THE PUBLIC BETA? Did Serato stop caring about quality assurance?

Since Note On/Off wasn't working, I had to use 'Control Change'. I made my own conversion table. www.poweronplay.com

I compare it with my 1 Page PDF.
www.poweronplay.com

1. - I also have a problem with the Novation Launchpad map as the 1 beat loop roll isn't dimly lit and when you press it the 1/16th auto loop light lights!

2. - When I fire off a sample with the Launchpad and the SP-6 is closed the light stays active as if the sample is still playing. I have to open the SP-6 and the light goes off. This doesn't happen if the SP-6 is open when the sample is pressed.

Problem 1 will just be a mapping error (although the publicity shot of the Launchpad the loop roll 1 beat is lit).

Problem 2 I think could be a bug with Scratch Live.

Actually, after going over the .xml for the Launchpad, I think it's an internal problem with the way SL is sending the light feedback and I'm thinking there could be a bug in it's code as from what I can see, the Launchpad .xml code seems good and all commands are in place.

so to get more functionality out of midi out, you need to edit the xml? #fail

also when i switch songs with cues, midi monitor is not seeing any midi activity and for example with an x1 the cues do not light up indicating that a cue is present. the cues only light up when i use a cue key command, click the cue or press the button on the x1.

what controller are you testing with? the 62 or the vci-380?

I'm using the 62 and DN-SC2000. I've never had any luck MIDI mapping in SSL. It always overwrites your existing code or duplicates code for no reason. This is why I edit in the XML file. I now use DreamWeaver from ADOBE as apposed to a regular text editor. If you have an extra space or return in the XML file, SSL might not read it all together.

The great advantage of editing the XML is that you can simply copy and paste all the buttons from Deck 1 to Deck 2, 3 and 4. I use Find and Replace for the MIDI Channel and command (Left renamed to Right, A renamed to B etc.)

What controller and RANE hardware are you using?

i'm using ipad (lemur) and a traktor kontrol x1. i have a denon hc1000s and an lpd8 in a trash can as well.

for rane hardware i'm using an sl1 and a 62.