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LeBron is starting to piss me off
Banana_Peter
3:01 PM 7 July 2010
What makes him think he is so special that he needs his own one hour show on ESPN to announce where he will play next season? The media and people who claims him as "The King" has gotten to his head. He is such an attention whore.
I have a feeling that he is going to stay in Cleveland (going to Miami makes a lot of sense now that Wade and Bosh are together). If he does stay in Cleveland, he is such a cock tease. Just announce it and get it over with.
I have a feeling that he is going to stay in Cleveland (going to Miami makes a lot of sense now that Wade and Bosh are together). If he does stay in Cleveland, he is such a cock tease. Just announce it and get it over with.
DJ DECK
3:05 PM 7 July 2010
I was just gonna post a similar post in the Gooooooooooo Lakers Thread.
Good post Banana_Peter. lol
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Good post Banana_Peter. lol
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DJ Bill Blast
5:37 PM 7 July 2010
Bosh & Wade in Miami with no Lebron = No Championship.
Lebron in Cleveland with no Bosh = No Championship.
Somethings gotta give.
Lebron in Cleveland with no Bosh = No Championship.
Somethings gotta give.
bourbonstmc
9:39 PM 7 July 2010
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LeBron is starting to piss me offYou should contact him about your concerns. I'm sure he'd be very interested. :)
djskiggz
9:44 PM 7 July 2010
I have a feeling the bosh/wade thing was done to derail any plans lebron might have had. I think miami/wade/bosh took a chance and thought maybe if both of them got together maybe lebron would join them. We'll see tomorrow!
djskiggz
9:45 PM 7 July 2010
miami would suck though. I dont think lebron will go. He needs to go to bulls or nicks!
Dj-M.Bezzle
9:55 PM 7 July 2010
i really dont see "king james" joining a team full of superstars....i really dont think he wants his 1st championship to be victum to that kobe complex where theres an astrix by it saying "the combined talent Lebron James Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh Won a championship"
DJ Bill Blast
9:59 PM 7 July 2010
^^^ I agree with that 100%
Would not be a good look for Lebron in my opinion.
Would not be a good look for Lebron in my opinion.
Dj-M.Bezzle
10:10 PM 7 July 2010
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^^^ I agree with that 100%Would not be a good look for Lebron in my opinion.
i mean i can see him going to a team with talent but not one thats so stacked that it completley undermines his role of winning the championship if they indeed get that far. Past experiments with creating super teams havent typically turned out well
DJ DECK
10:13 PM 7 July 2010
LOL.
He will stay with the Cav's and be all like "I owe it my fans in Cleveland to win a championship....
*while fans nut their pants and Lebron throwing the Roc signal*
Which means I'll still be the superstar and getting bank. lol
He will stay with the Cav's and be all like "I owe it my fans in Cleveland to win a championship....
*while fans nut their pants and Lebron throwing the Roc signal*
Which means I'll still be the superstar and getting bank. lol
dj_craigmac
2:03 AM 8 July 2010
Lebron is starting to act like the original "attention whore" BRETT FARVE!
DJ TK
4:03 AM 8 July 2010
Everyone is flipping out about Lebron its the media who has made this huge, All he did was saw a chance to make money for a charity because everyone is losing their shit about where he'll play. Totally different than Brett Farve. If Lebron was as bad as him he would have retired this week then decieded to come back and draw out for 3 months which team he's playing for.
Dj_Dropz_
4:40 AM 8 July 2010
i lost respect for princess james... i takes what, 5 seconds to pick a team!! wtf does he need an hour for!!you better belive hes gonna get mad paper for the special, the sponsors, AND his new/same team after the new deal... f#ck lebron at this point... hes just milking the nba cow dry!!
Banana_Peter
4:40 AM 8 July 2010
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All he did was saw a chance to make money for a charity because everyone is losing their shit about where he'll play.I seriously doubt the ESPN special tomorrow night is all about charity.
Dj_Dropz_
4:45 AM 8 July 2010
honestly those chances are slim... best bet are the bulls, heat, or cavs... the knicks are under a different bracket - knicks, nets, clippers... IMO
Banana_Peter
4:45 AM 8 July 2010
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LeBron is starting to piss me offYou should contact him about your concerns. I'm sure he'd be very interested. :)
I texted him and he told me not to worry because he will go to New York
Boba Tha Hut
6:43 AM 8 July 2010
I heard he's going to retire from the NBA and join the WNBA, or at least he should for being such a drama queen.
Boba Tha Hut
6:44 AM 8 July 2010
seriously though If I have to guess, I'm saying Lebron is staying in Cleveland...
That would be a slap in the face if Lebron bailed out on Cleveland on national TV, more so than any other scenario
That would be a slap in the face if Lebron bailed out on Cleveland on national TV, more so than any other scenario
djskiggz
8:13 AM 8 July 2010
if he stays in cleaveland it will be hilarious. All this hype to see where he's going and he stays put. WHAT THE FUCK?
I SAY, FUCK THAT!!!!!!!!
I SAY, FUCK THAT!!!!!!!!
DJ GaFFle
11:45 AM 8 July 2010
Supposedly, money made from this ESPN Lebron thing tonight is going to the Boys & Girls Club.
DJ Jonasty
12:11 PM 8 July 2010
That's cool about the charity but Lebron is way overrated. I'd take D-wade on my team any day before bringing on that no championship winning whiner. What will be the real salt is if he moves somewhere and still can't get a ring. MJ had his first ring by now by building his own team from the ground up. No matter what, they'll still have to beat the Lakers!
Dj-M.Bezzle
1:39 PM 8 July 2010
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Supposedly, money made from this ESPN Lebron thing tonight is going to the Boys & Girls Club.It is but thats not the reason he dicided to make his announcment on an hour long special, its all about image branding
Dj-M.Bezzle
7:56 PM 8 July 2010
lebrons rented 6 cabanas in miami for this weekend and has booked hotel reservations....hmmmm
Boba Tha Hut
8:01 PM 8 July 2010
If LeBroad teams up with Dwade and Bosh, we can take him out of the discussion of being the best player ever.
Guys in the "best player" ever category don't pussy out and bail on their teams to go team up with other superstars to win titles.
Guys in the "best player" ever category don't pussy out and bail on their teams to go team up with other superstars to win titles.
Dj-M.Bezzle
8:03 PM 8 July 2010
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If LeBroad teams up with Dwade and Bosh, we can take him out of the discussion of being the best player ever.Guys in the "best player" ever category don't pussy out and bail on their teams to go team up with other superstars to win titles.
+1, i could see him going to a team who has talent and leading them, or importing another great player to help, but leaving YOUR team to go play on someone elses team because that team is stacking the deck to gaurentee it is a bitch move....that aint a good look lebron
Boba Tha Hut
8:17 PM 8 July 2010
I still think he's staying in Cleveland. This is pretty much the same thing Kobe did back 5+ years ago when it was thought he'd go to the Clippers.
Staying in Cleveland offers more money AND more legacy than if he bolts to play with 2 other superstars.
Staying in Cleveland offers more money AND more legacy than if he bolts to play with 2 other superstars.
Banana_Peter
8:35 PM 8 July 2010
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lebrons rented 6 cabanas in miami for this weekend and has booked hotel reservations....hmmmmYea he sent me a text early this morning to meet him in MIA
DJ GaFFle
9:12 PM 8 July 2010
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...Guys in the "best player" ever category don't pussy out and bail on their teams to go team up with other superstars to win titles.
...Guys who are smart do.
They can be a dynasty with such a potent core group. All roads in the Eastern conference will lead to Miami. That hardware at the end of the season is what counts. Another defensive minded player + a solid big man (that can help neutralize Dwight Howard) and they're totally set.
The Lakers have the deck stacked in my opinion. Nobody's complaining about them...
Dj-M.Bezzle
9:25 PM 8 July 2010
Yes but there are 2 major differences, the 1st is the lakers have historically been rich in talent, 2nd is that kobe came into the lakers and was there through the good and bad and built championship teams, he didnt run to where the deck was stacked, even if lebron wins 5 rings with these guys hell have to deal with the EXACT same thing that kobe did "hes not the best he couldnt do it without shaq" except lebron will have it worse because its not even just 1 player he developed an allstar team...those champs will never be "his" hell its not even "his" team, the miami heat are dwayne wades team
bourbonstmc
9:46 PM 8 July 2010
Basketball is a sideline financially to him. The real money to be made is selling shoes in China.
DJ GaFFle
11:48 AM 9 July 2010
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LOL Lebron just asked Cleveland "How did my ass taste?"That owner wrote a bone-head statement on emotion. He's gonna choke on his words and they WON'T be winning an NBA championship ANY TIME SOON.
DJ GOOK
2:45 PM 9 July 2010
that was a smart choice by Lebron.He already has the money,now he want a ring. I want to be known as a champion not a hero of the town.Its funny how people say he can't win it on his own. Name one player who won a NBA title by themself.I will eleminate some now: Michael Jordan had Pippen. Magic Johnson had Kareem. Wade had Shaq. Kobe had Shaq,Gasal.boston had the big 3.Duncan had parker. so someone name me one team.
DJ Bill Blast
2:48 PM 9 July 2010
I wonder who Lebrons Mom gave a Hummer to first.. Lebron or Delonte ?
Dj-M.Bezzle
2:50 PM 9 July 2010
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that was a smart choice by Lebron.He already has the money,now he want a ring. I want to be known as a champion not a hero of the town.Its funny how people say he can't win it on his own. Name one player who won a NBA title by themself.I will eleminate some now: Michael Jordan had Pippen. Magic Johnson had Kareem. Wade had Shaq. Kobe had Shaq,Gasal.boston had the big 3.Duncan had parker. so someone name me one team.Let me ask you this, if this is true and its just about championships then wouldnt it make sence to take a pay cut and make salary room to bring some quality players, like a bosh or wade to cleveland to play?? I mean the cavs DIDNT suck they had the best record in the league and went deep into the playoffs both years, they were missing peices and those were pieces they couldnt get because of lebrons paycheck, if lebron cut his pay to make room for another star player do you not think the cavs...HIS TEAM...would have a championship comming up?? They wouldnt even have to work hard to get the player to come with a championship contender AND the "best player on the planet" on the team. Especially noy with Scott coachin......James took the easy way out plain and simple, he didnt feel the need to work or earn the title he feel privlidged to it, he thinks he deserves it because he is who he is so he stacked the deck to get it
CMOS
3:11 PM 9 July 2010
I just wanna know when the nets are coming to brooklyn, so i can jump ship on this wack Knicks organization. We aint had a draft pick or good trade in 10 years.
Banana_Peter
3:22 PM 9 July 2010
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so i can jump ship on this wack Knicks organization.Man I will be a Knicks fan til I die. Whether they are good or not.
CMOS
3:50 PM 9 July 2010
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so i can jump ship on this wack Knicks organization.Man I will be a Knicks fan til I die. Whether they are good or not.
I used to say that till they starting building a stadium for the nets close to my house. I think they should also change the team name, the "brooklyn nets" doesnt flow as well as the "new jersey nets".
DJ GOOK
5:03 PM 9 July 2010
@ bezzle. He did take a pay cut to go to the heat. This just in Cavs is going to get rid of west their best player now. Lmao. I'm still waiting. Oh yea thank you cleveland for giving Baltimore a football team
DJ CISC0
5:54 PM 9 July 2010
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so i can jump ship on this wack Knicks organization.Man I will be a Knicks fan til I die. Whether they are good or not.
I stopped watching the Knicks since the Spreewell days.
Banana_Peter
6:31 PM 9 July 2010
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so i can jump ship on this wack Knicks organization.Man I will be a Knicks fan til I die. Whether they are good or not.
I stopped watching the Knicks since the Spreewell days.
Man I miss those days....when we had Patrick Ewing, John Starks, Charles Oakley, Anthony Mason, Larry Johnson, X-man, Greg Anthony, Allan Houston, etc
DJ GaFFle
6:48 PM 9 July 2010
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so i can jump ship on this wack Knicks organization.Man I will be a Knicks fan til I die. Whether they are good or not.
I stopped watching the Knicks since the Spreewell days.
Man I miss those days....when we had Patrick Ewing, John Starks, Charles Oakley, Anthony Mason, Larry Johnson, X-man, Greg Anthony, Allan Houston, etc
Did they win any championships or reach the finals in those days? I know somewhere along that era, we had Reggie Miller wreaking havoc on the Knicks. That was an exciting Knick era.
Banana_Peter
6:49 PM 9 July 2010
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so i can jump ship on this wack Knicks organization.Man I will be a Knicks fan til I die. Whether they are good or not.
I stopped watching the Knicks since the Spreewell days.
Man I miss those days....when we had Patrick Ewing, John Starks, Charles Oakley, Anthony Mason, Larry Johnson, X-man, Greg Anthony, Allan Houston, etc
Did they win any championships or reach the finals in those days? I know somewhere along that era, we had Reggie Miller wreaking havoc on the Knicks. That was an exciting Knick era.
Yes, they lost to Houston Rockets in the Finals (Remember OJ Bronco chase?) and San Antonio Sperms as well
DJ GaFFle
7:42 AM 10 July 2010
THis article addresses all the nay-sayers and haterz best: www.cnn.com
(CNN) -- LeBron James is a grown man who made a grownup decision to take his massive basketball-playing ability from Cleveland to Miami in a desire to get the one thing every true baller desires: the opportunity to call yourself a champion.
Forget all the nonsense about him "owing" his hometown and how his legacy could have been cemented had he stayed in the Midwest and continued to try to win a title in Cleveland. LeBron had the absolute right to pick up his things and go where he thought it was best to win, and he did it.
Enough with all of this ridiculous chatter that he's a selfish, spoiled basketball prodigy. LeBron was an employee of the Cleveland Cavaliers. He had no ownership stake and no control. Everyone talks about what his presence meant to the Cleveland economy. Did he own any of those businesses? No. But he made them, and the Cavaliers, richer by his play.
There is undoubtedly a tradeoff, because being a star athlete is a two-way street. You become richer by virtue of folks coming to see you play, and the league, team, marketers and surrounding businesses get to piggyback off of your success. LeBron gave them a solid seven seasons, and everyone enjoyed the ride. Say thank you for the LeBron gravy train, and now, like any smart business owner, you need to figure out your next revenue stream.
Now, let's deal with the fans. I read with fascination about how LeBron "owed" the fans. Really? What exactly did he owe them? We need to stop with this belief that fans in a city "own" a particular player. We get to sit back and enjoy the skills of these modern-day gladiators in our gleaming new Colosseums, while they bust their butts, play injured and have to take all of the criticism when things go bad.
As fans, we justify it all by saying, "Well, he's getting millions to play, so he should shut up." We need to grow up and realize that once his playing days are over, we will say, "Thanks, LeBron, now move over so we can worship the next stud." In fact, when a particular athlete has overstayed their welcome, the fans are the loudest in telling him to leave the court.
To me, there is a huge difference between a player like LeBron James and Albert Haynesworth of the Washington Redskins. Albert has pocketed nearly $40 million and has refused to show up at training sessions with Washington because he doesn't like the defensive scheme. That is dumb.
LeBron showed up and did his part, and when his contract was up, he exercised his free will to do as he pleased and shop his talents. He did what every single American wants: to go to a new job where the desires you always wanted can be fulfilled. So how is that wrong?
No one -- athlete, stockbroker, Wal-Mart greeter, grocery store clerk, secretary, journalist -- wants to be treated like they are a piece of property. We all desire the freedom that comes with making our own choice as to where we want to work and achieve the goals in life that we all set.
I can identify with that. In 1993, I decided to leave the Austin American-Statesman, where I was the county government reporter. The then-city editor sat across from me and said, "I felt like it was a punch in the gut when told you were leaving." He had an indignant, paternalistic tone that I found offensive.
See, I was making $24,000. When the Houston Chronicle pursued me for a job a few months earlier that would be around $27,000, I was told I was talking myself out of a job in Austin. So when the Fort Worth Star-Telegram offered me a gig at $32,000, I didn't even bother seeing whether Austin wanted to counter. The new job allowed me to go to a bigger market and have the upward mobility I desired, so I took the job.
So I told the city editor, "Look, you didn't take some kid off the street, teach him how to talk, write and dress. You paid me for a service, and I delivered. Now I'm choosing to take my skills elsewhere." I then got up and left the meeting.
It was offensive to me that my bosses at the paper felt like I was being an ungrateful employee. I wanted to do more with my talents, and I refused to allow someone to make me feel bad about my decision. It's my life, my career, my choice. So how is that bad?
Now I get folks who didn't like LeBron having a one-hour special to announce his decision. But we are all used to the hype in sports. Do we really need a six-hour pregame show for the Super Bowl? Can't we play the NBA All-Star Game without all of the side attractions? Would boxing be boxing without the wild and crazy news conferences? Hype and sports go hand-in-hand.
That's why I found the letter written by Cavaliers owner Dan Gilbert so pathetic. Here is a man who was enriched by the play of LeBron James; according to Forbes, the value of the franchise increased by $100 million with his on-court performance.
Yet instead of being a gracious owner and simply reaffirming his commitment to the fans to put a winning team on the court, Gilbert ripped LeBron to shreds, calling him "narcissistic" and his decision to leave a "cowardly betrayal" and "a shameful display of selfishness."
Gilbert even went on to trash all athletes by saying, "It's time for people to hold these athletes accountable for their actions. Is this the way you raise your children?"
In an interview, Gilbert later said LeBron quit on the team in the playoffs the past two years.
Really? So if he was all of that, Dan, why did you want to re-sign him? Who wants a quitter on his team? If LeBron had chosen to stay in Cleveland, rich boy Dan would have been all smiles, slapping his back, getting ready to count the money he could make off of the back of LeBron. So who would have been the real selfish, narcissistic individual, Dan?
Gilbert now says it's time to speak out against LeBron, yet as long as James made him richer, he would have kept quiet. Sorry, Dan, you've pimped LeBron long enough.
LeBron showed Dan Gilbert that only LeBron owes LeBron an explanation. No owner, CEO or boss has the right to demand that someone stay as an employee. The employee has a right to live their life as they see fit.
As the CEO of LeBron James Inc., he did what's in the best of interest of him. And as the most important shareholder, isn't that what he's supposed to do?
I'm sorry, folks, but the loyalty that used to exist from teams and companies is gone. Some still believe in it, but for many of us, we're simply a dot on the spreadsheet. Business is cutthroat, and we have to accept that reality.
So, King James, go to Miami and do your thing. Grow your corporation to be as big as you want it to be. And never look back at the haters who are mad you chose not to act like a highly paid indentured servant or 21st-century slave, held in place by the invisible shackles dressed up as loyalty to a city, owing the fans and satisfying someone who is clearly an ungrateful owner.
The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Roland Martin.
(CNN) -- LeBron James is a grown man who made a grownup decision to take his massive basketball-playing ability from Cleveland to Miami in a desire to get the one thing every true baller desires: the opportunity to call yourself a champion.
Forget all the nonsense about him "owing" his hometown and how his legacy could have been cemented had he stayed in the Midwest and continued to try to win a title in Cleveland. LeBron had the absolute right to pick up his things and go where he thought it was best to win, and he did it.
Enough with all of this ridiculous chatter that he's a selfish, spoiled basketball prodigy. LeBron was an employee of the Cleveland Cavaliers. He had no ownership stake and no control. Everyone talks about what his presence meant to the Cleveland economy. Did he own any of those businesses? No. But he made them, and the Cavaliers, richer by his play.
There is undoubtedly a tradeoff, because being a star athlete is a two-way street. You become richer by virtue of folks coming to see you play, and the league, team, marketers and surrounding businesses get to piggyback off of your success. LeBron gave them a solid seven seasons, and everyone enjoyed the ride. Say thank you for the LeBron gravy train, and now, like any smart business owner, you need to figure out your next revenue stream.
Now, let's deal with the fans. I read with fascination about how LeBron "owed" the fans. Really? What exactly did he owe them? We need to stop with this belief that fans in a city "own" a particular player. We get to sit back and enjoy the skills of these modern-day gladiators in our gleaming new Colosseums, while they bust their butts, play injured and have to take all of the criticism when things go bad.
As fans, we justify it all by saying, "Well, he's getting millions to play, so he should shut up." We need to grow up and realize that once his playing days are over, we will say, "Thanks, LeBron, now move over so we can worship the next stud." In fact, when a particular athlete has overstayed their welcome, the fans are the loudest in telling him to leave the court.
To me, there is a huge difference between a player like LeBron James and Albert Haynesworth of the Washington Redskins. Albert has pocketed nearly $40 million and has refused to show up at training sessions with Washington because he doesn't like the defensive scheme. That is dumb.
LeBron showed up and did his part, and when his contract was up, he exercised his free will to do as he pleased and shop his talents. He did what every single American wants: to go to a new job where the desires you always wanted can be fulfilled. So how is that wrong?
No one -- athlete, stockbroker, Wal-Mart greeter, grocery store clerk, secretary, journalist -- wants to be treated like they are a piece of property. We all desire the freedom that comes with making our own choice as to where we want to work and achieve the goals in life that we all set.
I can identify with that. In 1993, I decided to leave the Austin American-Statesman, where I was the county government reporter. The then-city editor sat across from me and said, "I felt like it was a punch in the gut when told you were leaving." He had an indignant, paternalistic tone that I found offensive.
See, I was making $24,000. When the Houston Chronicle pursued me for a job a few months earlier that would be around $27,000, I was told I was talking myself out of a job in Austin. So when the Fort Worth Star-Telegram offered me a gig at $32,000, I didn't even bother seeing whether Austin wanted to counter. The new job allowed me to go to a bigger market and have the upward mobility I desired, so I took the job.
So I told the city editor, "Look, you didn't take some kid off the street, teach him how to talk, write and dress. You paid me for a service, and I delivered. Now I'm choosing to take my skills elsewhere." I then got up and left the meeting.
It was offensive to me that my bosses at the paper felt like I was being an ungrateful employee. I wanted to do more with my talents, and I refused to allow someone to make me feel bad about my decision. It's my life, my career, my choice. So how is that bad?
Now I get folks who didn't like LeBron having a one-hour special to announce his decision. But we are all used to the hype in sports. Do we really need a six-hour pregame show for the Super Bowl? Can't we play the NBA All-Star Game without all of the side attractions? Would boxing be boxing without the wild and crazy news conferences? Hype and sports go hand-in-hand.
That's why I found the letter written by Cavaliers owner Dan Gilbert so pathetic. Here is a man who was enriched by the play of LeBron James; according to Forbes, the value of the franchise increased by $100 million with his on-court performance.
Yet instead of being a gracious owner and simply reaffirming his commitment to the fans to put a winning team on the court, Gilbert ripped LeBron to shreds, calling him "narcissistic" and his decision to leave a "cowardly betrayal" and "a shameful display of selfishness."
Gilbert even went on to trash all athletes by saying, "It's time for people to hold these athletes accountable for their actions. Is this the way you raise your children?"
In an interview, Gilbert later said LeBron quit on the team in the playoffs the past two years.
Really? So if he was all of that, Dan, why did you want to re-sign him? Who wants a quitter on his team? If LeBron had chosen to stay in Cleveland, rich boy Dan would have been all smiles, slapping his back, getting ready to count the money he could make off of the back of LeBron. So who would have been the real selfish, narcissistic individual, Dan?
Gilbert now says it's time to speak out against LeBron, yet as long as James made him richer, he would have kept quiet. Sorry, Dan, you've pimped LeBron long enough.
LeBron showed Dan Gilbert that only LeBron owes LeBron an explanation. No owner, CEO or boss has the right to demand that someone stay as an employee. The employee has a right to live their life as they see fit.
As the CEO of LeBron James Inc., he did what's in the best of interest of him. And as the most important shareholder, isn't that what he's supposed to do?
I'm sorry, folks, but the loyalty that used to exist from teams and companies is gone. Some still believe in it, but for many of us, we're simply a dot on the spreadsheet. Business is cutthroat, and we have to accept that reality.
So, King James, go to Miami and do your thing. Grow your corporation to be as big as you want it to be. And never look back at the haters who are mad you chose not to act like a highly paid indentured servant or 21st-century slave, held in place by the invisible shackles dressed up as loyalty to a city, owing the fans and satisfying someone who is clearly an ungrateful owner.
The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Roland Martin.
DJ Jonasty
1:32 PM 10 July 2010
I would of left Cleveland too. I've been to Cleveland and couldn't wait to leave. I've been to Miami and wished I could of stayed. 25 and a pocket full of money, yeah Miami. Nobody watches the NBA anymore anyways.
DJ GOOK
3:47 AM 11 July 2010
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I would of left Cleveland too. I've been to Cleveland and couldn't wait to leave. I've been to Miami and wished I could of stayed. 25 and a pocket full of money, yeah Miami. Nobody watches the NBA anymore anyways.That is true.Thats another reason why Lebron( or should we say the NBA) had that 1 hour special so people can tune in.Can't wait till football season.GO RAVENS!
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3
11:50 PM 11 July 2010
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THis article addresses all the nay-sayers and haterz best: www.cnn.com(CNN) -- LeBron James is a grown man who made a grownup decision to take his massive basketball-playing ability from Cleveland to Miami in a desire to get the one thing every true baller desires: the opportunity to call yourself a champion.
Forget all the nonsense about him "owing" his hometown and how his legacy could have been cemented had he stayed in the Midwest and continued to try to win a title in Cleveland. LeBron had the absolute right to pick up his things and go where he thought it was best to win, and he did it.
Enough with all of this ridiculous chatter that he's a selfish, spoiled basketball prodigy. LeBron was an employee of the Cleveland Cavaliers. He had no ownership stake and no control. Everyone talks about what his presence meant to the Cleveland economy. Did he own any of those businesses? No. But he made them, and the Cavaliers, richer by his play.
There is undoubtedly a tradeoff, because being a star athlete is a two-way street. You become richer by virtue of folks coming to see you play, and the league, team, marketers and surrounding businesses get to piggyback off of your success. LeBron gave them a solid seven seasons, and everyone enjoyed the ride. Say thank you for the LeBron gravy train, and now, like any smart business owner, you need to figure out your next revenue stream.
Now, let's deal with the fans. I read with fascination about how LeBron "owed" the fans. Really? What exactly did he owe them? We need to stop with this belief that fans in a city "own" a particular player. We get to sit back and enjoy the skills of these modern-day gladiators in our gleaming new Colosseums, while they bust their butts, play injured and have to take all of the criticism when things go bad.
As fans, we justify it all by saying, "Well, he's getting millions to play, so he should shut up." We need to grow up and realize that once his playing days are over, we will say, "Thanks, LeBron, now move over so we can worship the next stud." In fact, when a particular athlete has overstayed their welcome, the fans are the loudest in telling him to leave the court.
To me, there is a huge difference between a player like LeBron James and Albert Haynesworth of the Washington Redskins. Albert has pocketed nearly $40 million and has refused to show up at training sessions with Washington because he doesn't like the defensive scheme. That is dumb.
LeBron showed up and did his part, and when his contract was up, he exercised his free will to do as he pleased and shop his talents. He did what every single American wants: to go to a new job where the desires you always wanted can be fulfilled. So how is that wrong?
No one -- athlete, stockbroker, Wal-Mart greeter, grocery store clerk, secretary, journalist -- wants to be treated like they are a piece of property. We all desire the freedom that comes with making our own choice as to where we want to work and achieve the goals in life that we all set.
I can identify with that. In 1993, I decided to leave the Austin American-Statesman, where I was the county government reporter. The then-city editor sat across from me and said, "I felt like it was a punch in the gut when told you were leaving." He had an indignant, paternalistic tone that I found offensive.
See, I was making $24,000. When the Houston Chronicle pursued me for a job a few months earlier that would be around $27,000, I was told I was talking myself out of a job in Austin. So when the Fort Worth Star-Telegram offered me a gig at $32,000, I didn't even bother seeing whether Austin wanted to counter. The new job allowed me to go to a bigger market and have the upward mobility I desired, so I took the job.
So I told the city editor, "Look, you didn't take some kid off the street, teach him how to talk, write and dress. You paid me for a service, and I delivered. Now I'm choosing to take my skills elsewhere." I then got up and left the meeting.
It was offensive to me that my bosses at the paper felt like I was being an ungrateful employee. I wanted to do more with my talents, and I refused to allow someone to make me feel bad about my decision. It's my life, my career, my choice. So how is that bad?
Now I get folks who didn't like LeBron having a one-hour special to announce his decision. But we are all used to the hype in sports. Do we really need a six-hour pregame show for the Super Bowl? Can't we play the NBA All-Star Game without all of the side attractions? Would boxing be boxing without the wild and crazy news conferences? Hype and sports go hand-in-hand.
That's why I found the letter written by Cavaliers owner Dan Gilbert so pathetic. Here is a man who was enriched by the play of LeBron James; according to Forbes, the value of the franchise increased by $100 million with his on-court performance.
Yet instead of being a gracious owner and simply reaffirming his commitment to the fans to put a winning team on the court, Gilbert ripped LeBron to shreds, calling him "narcissistic" and his decision to leave a "cowardly betrayal" and "a shameful display of selfishness."
Gilbert even went on to trash all athletes by saying, "It's time for people to hold these athletes accountable for their actions. Is this the way you raise your children?"
In an interview, Gilbert later said LeBron quit on the team in the playoffs the past two years.
Really? So if he was all of that, Dan, why did you want to re-sign him? Who wants a quitter on his team? If LeBron had chosen to stay in Cleveland, rich boy Dan would have been all smiles, slapping his back, getting ready to count the money he could make off of the back of LeBron. So who would have been the real selfish, narcissistic individual, Dan?
Gilbert now says it's time to speak out against LeBron, yet as long as James made him richer, he would have kept quiet. Sorry, Dan, you've pimped LeBron long enough.
LeBron showed Dan Gilbert that only LeBron owes LeBron an explanation. No owner, CEO or boss has the right to demand that someone stay as an employee. The employee has a right to live their life as they see fit.
As the CEO of LeBron James Inc., he did what's in the best of interest of him. And as the most important shareholder, isn't that what he's supposed to do?
I'm sorry, folks, but the loyalty that used to exist from teams and companies is gone. Some still believe in it, but for many of us, we're simply a dot on the spreadsheet. Business is cutthroat, and we have to accept that reality.
So, King James, go to Miami and do your thing. Grow your corporation to be as big as you want it to be. And never look back at the haters who are mad you chose not to act like a highly paid indentured servant or 21st-century slave, held in place by the invisible shackles dressed up as loyalty to a city, owing the fans and satisfying someone who is clearly an ungrateful owner.
The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Roland Martin.
I WAS GOING TO POST THIS!
This article is THE TRUTH! Lebron doesn't owe anybody ANYTHING. The league will use him until he isn't profitable anymore, and will move on to the next superstar in a heartbeat and not think twice about it.
And YEP he gave the Cavs 7 years.
Let that dude cash a check.
Boba Tha Hut
12:55 AM 12 July 2010
I think most people are bitter he's leaving because he's going to a stacked team of superstars, not because he's leaving his Cavs. I'm disappointed he's going Miami and was really hoping he'd go to Chicago. The fact that Miami as a basketball town is "a bunch of bandwagoners" makes it even worse.
I'm actually glad he DIDN'T go to NY. NY was too much on his nuts with the lame ass "Come on Lebron" campaign and with the mayor and NY sports greats. I'm LMAO at the fact they dumped 2 years and gutted the roster for what? Amare??? LMAO. nice one jackasses!
I'm actually glad he DIDN'T go to NY. NY was too much on his nuts with the lame ass "Come on Lebron" campaign and with the mayor and NY sports greats. I'm LMAO at the fact they dumped 2 years and gutted the roster for what? Amare??? LMAO. nice one jackasses!
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3
12:58 AM 12 July 2010
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I'm disappointed he's going Miami and was really hoping he'd go to Chicago.There would have been NO WAY he would have lived up to MJ's legacy, and that's all he would have been slated to do in Chicago. Everything he would have done would have instantly been compared to MJ.
MJ> The best EVER.
Boba Tha Hut
1:00 AM 12 July 2010
Also a lot of people are pissed because:
Miami is a half ass franchise
Fear that the Lakers will get dethroned by a new dream team
Makes less teams in the NBA you don't want to watch. Who the hell wants to watch Cavs and Toronto now. Oh wait, no one ever wanted to watch Toronto
btw, I was planning on going to Miami in Oct before this whole ordeal, now I'm afraid shit is too high dollar now LOL. Thanks Lebron LOL
Miami is a half ass franchise
Fear that the Lakers will get dethroned by a new dream team
Makes less teams in the NBA you don't want to watch. Who the hell wants to watch Cavs and Toronto now. Oh wait, no one ever wanted to watch Toronto
btw, I was planning on going to Miami in Oct before this whole ordeal, now I'm afraid shit is too high dollar now LOL. Thanks Lebron LOL
Dj_Dropz_
1:19 AM 12 July 2010
just a quick question... besides them 3, whos in the roster? officially? whos gonna help them out, role players, bench players etc etc... im just curious.. =)
Banana_Peter
3:38 AM 12 July 2010
just pre-ordered Lebron's Heat jersey. I'm going to burn it when he leaves Miami for New York
bourbonstmc
6:00 PM 12 July 2010
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Also a lot of people are pissed because:Miami is a half ass franchise
Fear that the Lakers will get dethroned by a new dream team
Makes less teams in the NBA you don't want to watch. Who the hell wants to watch Cavs and Toronto now. Oh wait, no one ever wanted to watch Toronto
btw, I was planning on going to Miami in Oct before this whole ordeal, now I'm afraid shit is too high dollar now LOL. Thanks Lebron LOL
Having a title in the past 4 years is a pretty good accomplishment for a "half ass franchise."
Dj-M.Bezzle
6:35 PM 12 July 2010
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Also a lot of people are pissed because:Miami is a half ass franchise
Fear that the Lakers will get dethroned by a new dream team
Makes less teams in the NBA you don't want to watch. Who the hell wants to watch Cavs and Toronto now. Oh wait, no one ever wanted to watch Toronto
btw, I was planning on going to Miami in Oct before this whole ordeal, now I'm afraid shit is too high dollar now LOL. Thanks Lebron LOL
Having a title in the past 4 years is a pretty good accomplishment for a "half ass franchise."
lets be fair they won it durring a weak year for the leauge
Banana_Peter
7:27 PM 12 July 2010
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Also a lot of people are pissed because:Miami is a half ass franchise
Fear that the Lakers will get dethroned by a new dream team
Makes less teams in the NBA you don't want to watch. Who the hell wants to watch Cavs and Toronto now. Oh wait, no one ever wanted to watch Toronto
btw, I was planning on going to Miami in Oct before this whole ordeal, now I'm afraid shit is too high dollar now LOL. Thanks Lebron LOL
Having a title in the past 4 years is a pretty good accomplishment for a "half ass franchise."
The Mavs should have won...we were all ready to party here in Dallas.
Dj-M.Bezzle
7:38 PM 12 July 2010
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Last Saturday, while you were enjoying bratwursts and s'mores, Carmelo Anthony(notes) was marrying LaLa Vasquez, an MTV VJ. Cool weekend plans, I suppose. And since Melo is a big-time NBA baller, he attracted more than a few celebrities to his New York City nuptials. In attendance were Kim Kardashian, Spike Lee, Justin Timberlake and Ludacris, who hopefully provided entertainment during the reception. Oh, and LeBron James(notes), whom you may have heard of.That's right — LeBron James was in New York City just two days after choosing the Miami Heat in his highly rated one-hour ESPN special. You can imagine how well that went over with Knick fans. From Fox Sports:
[LeBron] James was greeted by a round of loud boos from angry New Yorkers outside the wedding in Cipriani 42nd Street when he arrived with his girlfriend Savannah Brinson, myFOXny.com reported.
[Photos: See more from Carmelo and LaLa's celeb-studded wedding]
Geez, LeBron. Way to almost ruin your friend's wedding by choosing to play in Miami. It's like that old saying: "You made your multi-millon dollar free-agency bed, now get booed by Knick fans in it." Or something like that. LBJ might as well hear the jeers now, since he'll be getting heckled basically everywhere but Miami-Wade County. Better to start with a few scattered New Yorkers than 20,000 rabid Clevelanders who hate his guts.
Of course, if those same classy Knick fans had stuck around a little longer, they might have gotten some good news. According to the New York Post's Marc Berman, attendee Chris Paul(notes) made a pretty interesting speech at the ceremony.
During Carmelo Anthony's wedding Saturday night at Cipriani's on 42nd Street, Chris Paul, the superstar New Orleans point guard, predicted a future Knicks Dream Team. [...]
According to a person who spoke with wedding attendee Amar'e Stoudemire(notes), Paul made the reference during a speech of a potential union of himself, Stoudemire and Anthony, saying, "We'll form our own Big 3," Paul allegedly said.
[Photos: More celebs who love pro athletes]
I'm sure that won't get New York fans' hopes up for the summer of 2012. Surely they'll take this potential joining of forces in stride and not get too upset if it never comes to fruition. At least I hope that's the case because VJs don't grow on trees these days. If things change, it'd be unfortunate for Knicks fans to have to boo Chris Paul for passing Jesse Camp on the street.
Dj BuddyLove
10:17 PM 21 July 2010
DJ GaFFle
1:09 AM 22 July 2010
They're gonna spend the next 10+ years hating on Lebron while they continue their losing ways. Move on Cleveland... let go of that hate.
Dj-M.Bezzle
9:17 PM 9 August 2010
another great PR move....guess hes trying to make sure that lebron gets dunked on neverhappens again outofbounds.yahoo.com
Banana_Peter
9:36 PM 9 August 2010
I saw that video, I thought that was an old video of Lebron practicing with the Cavs???
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