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Talk about old mixers! Guys read this!

Dj Alex Alvarez 7:21 PM - 24 November, 2006
So on Weds, I was doing a Pre Thanksgiving gig at this spot called Bricks in Downtown Miami. This is a huge club that has a 1. something million dollar light system, and incredible sound system.

Anyways, getting along with the story.

I was into the DJ booth to start setting up Serato, to my amazement when I check out the mixer. I was astonished to gaze upon what I was looking at! It was a freakin Urei. I was blown away. This was the mixer from the 70's. Aparrently the owner of the club was a DJ back in those days and wanted this mixer for the main room. Talk about simplicity in a mixer. this is it!

Here are the pictures of the mixer.

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The mixer is great, I would of prefered the Rane XP 2016, but i made the best of it. Thank God for the gain's in Serato.
sixxx 7:33 PM - 24 November, 2006
That looks like a dishwasher.
sixxx 7:33 PM - 24 November, 2006
But then again, hip hop dj's have no use for rotary mixers.
DJMark 7:37 PM - 24 November, 2006
The original Urei 1620 came out in the early 80's.

What you have pictured there is the 1620LE "reissue" manufactured by Soundcraft, which was released in last year.
Dj Alex Alvarez 8:17 PM - 24 November, 2006
My mistake then, I thought it was the old one from back in those days. it was still fun.

Sixx: I'm not really a hip hop DJ. Down here in Miami, FL. I'm widely known for playing open format. Sure, I can rip it when I spin hip hop, but lately with all the wack ish coming out. I'm not supporting much of the new stuff coming out.

Anyways, the night was great, other than the fact i couldn't cut or scratch when I was playing hip hop, but when I was playing house/80's/rock, it was ok for what it was...
The Little Trooper 8:22 PM - 24 November, 2006
Two places in Baltimore MD use that mixer in their main room, only they have the original. Paradox and Redwood Trust. Both have amazing sound systems.

The Urei might not be the ideal choice mixer for a hip hop DJ, or even some EDM DJs today, but its sound quality and construction are top notch.
DJMark 8:26 PM - 24 November, 2006
I know several hip-hop DJ's that can do very well on a rotary mixer, but it's a whole different technique. For smoothly mixing house and techno, there's nothing better than a good rotary mixer.

They also have the advantage (for DJ booth installations) of being very impervious to accidental drink spills. I once had a DJ booth get accidentally soaked by hot tap water (custodian busted a hose) and the Urei was one of the very few things to survive unscathed (it was cleaner than it had been in years :-).
Lando 8:41 PM - 24 November, 2006
Trooper, is Paradox still mainly a house club?
HittinSkinzTa2 8:42 PM - 24 November, 2006
Yeah, when I used to DJ back in the late 80's thru early 90's pretty much every major club in NYC had a Urei 1620. They're as smooth as silk and built like a tank. Definitely not mad for cutting & scratching. But for long, smooth blends... can't beat it.
dj poisonous handz 8:44 PM - 24 November, 2006
dude im in nyc! and a good 40% of the clubs ive done have that mixer! shit isnt rare around here.shit is built like a tank!
Dj KaGeN 8:57 PM - 24 November, 2006
hold up.. I get the smooth and tank factor, but where are the EQ's on that 1620?
sixxx 9:31 PM - 24 November, 2006
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...but lately with all the wack ish coming out. I'm not supporting much of the new stuff coming out.


I feel you 99%. (no homo)
The Little Trooper 9:49 AM - 25 November, 2006
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Trooper, is Paradox still mainly a house club?


I'm not really sure. I haven't gone to Paradox in a while. I went back in the day to Fever a couple times, and to some of the new Fever events last year.

I hear they mostly do events for the Bmore gay community, and that ain't my thing...
The Little Trooper 9:51 AM - 25 November, 2006
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hold up.. I get the smooth and tank factor, but where are the EQ's on that 1620?


No EQs, like the Rane rotary (without its expansion pack) and the A&H V6.
DJMark 11:22 PM - 25 November, 2006
Real DJ's don't need no stinkin' EQ :-)

Actually the Urei has "low" and "high" tone controls on the outputs...separate knobs for left and right channels. It's very common, since they're small knobs that are easy to accidentally mis-adjust, for them to be removed from the circuit (a Urei-sanctioned modification).

Places with the Urei installed commonly have outboard EQ/crossover units installed right above the mixer.
DJJOHNNYM 2:50 AM - 26 November, 2006
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Real DJ's don't need no stinkin' EQ :-)


It's funny you say that...I kinda chuckle to myself when I see a DJ take out the bass before a mix that MIGHT clash if it wasn't exactly on beat...

BE A REAL DJ! LEAVE THE BASS RIGHT WHERE TI IS!
Thundercat 3:24 AM - 26 November, 2006
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Real DJ's don't need no stinkin' EQ :-)


It's funny you say that...I kinda chuckle to myself when I see a DJ take out the bass before a mix that MIGHT clash if it wasn't exactly on beat...

BE A REAL DJ! LEAVE THE BASS RIGHT WHERE TI IS!


Whew! I was starting to feel like a super slacker. Guilty as charged as another DJ that blends w/o EQ tweaking. Even so, I have experimented with it at home now that I have a mixer with separate channel EQ's...

I have used the crossover before to work the subs at some venues and when rolling mobile with the big cabinets. That's one thing I picked up my few times spinning at Palladium with Glenn Friscia (shameless double name drop). He'd send the floor absolutely nuts the way he worked it.

To keep the post on topic: They did have the old Urei there.
CMOS 7:52 PM - 28 November, 2006
I miss the Palladium. The lighted staircase, the Engine room playin hip-hop, the michael todd room for private parties, the theatre seats where everyone i know caught a blowjob up at the top. The times they would bring in the bouncing ball pits and gyroscope machines upstairs. The way they would close off the upstairs around 3am and pull the white sheets over the dancefloor so it felt like you were in a whole new club. That bitch afrodite at the door who used to make us wait for an hour to get in. good times good times.

Are there any clubs like this in NYC anymore? It seems now that most of the clubs are either all house or all hip hop.....palladium had that great balance between the two.


im done
CMO
HittinSkinzTa2 8:42 PM - 28 November, 2006
Yeah CMOS, I totally agree. Palladium was one of those perfect spots in NYC. They way the back wall on the dance floor would open up as the club filled... Just like at Studio 54! Afrodita used to make you wait outside? She was always cool with me because she did the door at Red Zone & The World when I used to DJ there. Those were two other hot spots back in the day. ;)
CMOS 9:00 PM - 28 November, 2006
It was wierd she didnt like one of my boys. If i went alone of with my two other friends she would let us right in. If we came with this one dude, we were outside at least an hour. The fucked up part is she would look at me n smirk the whole time.

The best part about palladium, limelight, tunnel back then was they all used the same comp tickets. So what we would do is always put ourselves on the guest list plus one. Take that extra ticket and save it. Next weekend go to the club wait outside for 10-15 min and see which color tickets were being used for comps. Pull that color out ya pocket walk right up to the front show the ticket n get right in.

Back then i wasnt a DJ so i hadda use my other kinds of contacts to get comped.

Anyone remember the Melting Pot? I think it was on like 27th or 28th near park ave. THAT WAS MY SPOT we used to have that place on lock till some ass hole brought in a gun n shot the place up and they hadda close.
HittinSkinzTa2 9:06 PM - 28 November, 2006
Melting Pot doesn't ring a bell. What year was that around roughly. Was that the place that became Fuji Tropicana?
CMOS 9:08 PM - 28 November, 2006
Dunno what it became this was probably around 95-96.
DJJOHNNYM 9:41 PM - 28 November, 2006
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Real DJ's don't need no stinkin' EQ :-)


It's funny you say that...I kinda chuckle to myself when I see a DJ take out the bass before a mix that MIGHT clash if it wasn't exactly on beat...

BE A REAL DJ! LEAVE THE BASS RIGHT WHERE TI IS!


Whew! I was starting to feel like a super slacker. Guilty as charged as another DJ that blends w/o EQ tweaking. Even so, I have experimented with it at home now that I have a mixer with separate channel EQ's...

I have used the crossover before to work the subs at some venues and when rolling mobile with the big cabinets. That's one thing I picked up my few times spinning at Palladium with Glenn Friscia (shameless double name drop). He'd send the floor absolutely nuts the way he worked it.


Don't get me wrong, it DEFINATELY has it's place, and can send a crowd into a frenzy just as you stated...But I've seen many a DJ use this as a crutch for mixing, I mean every single transition would begin with the bass being brought out....and then I'd always smh.
Thundercat 11:21 PM - 28 November, 2006
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I've seen many a DJ use this as a crutch for mixing, I mean every single transition would begin with the bass being brought out....and then I'd always smh.


There are an awful lot of crippled DJ's in the area. Some straight poseurs too. I've only ever walked in on someone once that was playing MY MIX CD that I sold them. All I could do was shake my head. I have also contributed to posing too *ducks*. A certain DJ that shall remain nameless (probably not on this forum anyway) hired me for a couple hundred bucks to make a demo CD for him to get a job...Yes, I took the money. He did some on location work for one of the radio stations. I apologize to anyone that had to suffer through his mixing.
a-swift 11:46 PM - 28 November, 2006
Thundercat, please tell me that you're kidding and some cat did not hire you to make a mix cd that he passed off as having done it himself.
djskeetz 12:23 AM - 29 November, 2006
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I've seen many a DJ use this as a crutch for mixing, I mean every single transition would begin with the bass being brought out....and then I'd always smh.


There are an awful lot of crippled DJ's in the area. Some straight poseurs too. I've only ever walked in on someone once that was playing MY MIX CD that I sold them. All I could do was shake my head. I have also contributed to posing too *ducks*. A certain DJ that shall remain nameless (probably not on this forum anyway) hired me for a couple hundred bucks to make a demo CD for him to get a job...Yes, I took the money. He did some on location work for one of the radio stations. I apologize to anyone that had to suffer through his mixing.


yeah someone on this forum (will remain nameless) asked me for a copy of my mix to try and get a job some where.
Thundercat 1:34 AM - 29 November, 2006
Yes, I did it. Yes, he got the job. He may have gotten it anyway, he was a slick talker and knew the right names to drop. Not as slick as Everett (Johnny M can vouch for Everett), but still pretty slick.
Dj Ryme 3:19 AM - 29 November, 2006
Wow that's crazy..... I wouldn't do that shit I'd rather get the job my damn self..... I hope there's more to that story.
Thundercat 5:13 AM - 29 November, 2006
Not a lot more. I was just happy where I was. Resident 6 nights a week, DJ / sound / lighting / graphical artist. Free food, free alchohol, good supply of nookie and a paycheck.
DJJOHNNYM 2:59 PM - 29 November, 2006
DAMN SON! I haven't actually run into anybody that was fully perpetrating as me from my mix cd, but I DID DJ a local fashion show at the college, and one of the scenes featured a looped version of a section of one of my mix cd's....

I was LMAO sayin, HELL, You've got the REAL ME HERE, I can do it live for you now!

Nothing like walking into a spot hearin' yo shit rocking...

What's funny, is that I've NEVER been into putting ANY "TAGS" on my CD's, no talking whatsoever. I've always been confident enough that nobody is going to BITE SOO HARD on my mix, and put their name over it, and to the best of my knowledge, it hasn't happened.

I've always wanted it where someone would hear the mix and be like "Yo, that must be DJ JOHNNY M".

Oh, and Everett was a slickster forreal.

And I'm SHOCKED at you Thundercat, for being a GHOST DJ!























sheeett....for a few hundred bucks, and KNOWING the cat couldn't reproduce what I did at the time, HELL I WOULD HAVE DONE IT TOO....

*****snicker******
Dj Ryme 3:15 PM - 29 November, 2006
I wouldnt have done that shit for no money man, I guess everyones different. I put alot of damn drops on my mix cd's. Some of these kids are stupid like that man. Just started dj'ing and jocking passing shit off as themselves.
Alixx J 7:13 PM - 29 November, 2006
The best thing to do on a 60 min mix tape is put a big drop about 30-40 mins in. If a scam DJ picks it up sometimes they only listen to the first couple of tracks and feel safe enough to play it live.

Ive witnessed it happen in a club where this MASSIVE drop came in and you could tell the DJ wasnt expecting it, it was soooo funny.
DJ_Mike_Coquilla 8:51 PM - 19 December, 2006
bump (gear head reporting for duty)