Hey All,

Had a quick question about Xtendamix. I know it's a Canadian based service, but is it only available to those living in Canada as well? I was browsing the site and tried to sign up but noticed it asks for Canadian provinces (no other state/country options).

Thanks for the help. Already a member of SmashVidz & 8th Wonder, just looking for more options for content.

i was wondering the same thing, mabye im just an idiot but i didnt understand the signup sheet at all it was askign for like company info and province info

11010 - 53 ave
City : Edmonton
Province: Alberta
Postal Code: t5h 1n2

address found lol......Sign away boys..............

According to their terms of service you need to be a canadian resident. I know that mark is looking at heading down into the USA, but no word on when that will happen.

Forgot to post their terms :)

xtendamix.com

LOL!!! xtendamix is gonna be like shit this must be an appartment complex just fo djs

will the US extradite to canada??

Ha Ha Ha....that's the legal jargon. We are in Canada so only have the rights to distribute within Canada. We will come down to the U.S. eventually, but it's an entirely different ball game.

In Canada, Universal Music is in one building. You get them on board, you have the whole label. Sony, EMI and Warner is the same. In the U.S., they are all spread out over different states, so it's a little more complex. Universal has sub labels like Def Jam, Interscope, Motown, etc. Here it's all one building. So one permission works for the entire country.

It will happen, but Canada is the pilot to make sure we get everything proper first. Now that we've eliminated the ringtones, set up previews, fixed some of the quality, de-interlaced, re-encoded with keyframes, etc, we're getting ready.

One thing we do know if that there are labels that we've approached who have no idea about this stuff. We are telling them about it for the first time. It's easier to get the permissions for Canada, build relationships, then ask for the U.S. later, once they see the success. For some labels who deny us and aren't interested, we're like "really, there's about 2-3 pools/websites already doing this" and they have no idea what we're talking about. We ask why they are letting certain people do it and not others. So for the pools out there who aren't getting permissions, just using content...it's gonna get interesting

they said that about healthcare too

And hockey!

Thanks for the info, I'll keep a lookout for future updates.

DTVideos :) [link removed]

Sorry zompydj, but I don't see how DTVideos is related to the discussion at hand, and it also borderlines on advertising. Link removed

LOL!!! xtendamix is gonna be like shit this must be an appartment complex just fo djs

Some kind of hospital or something ^^

hearing clinic

I just put in my address and made up the providence etc and it put me through... When I put in the visa card it received the correct address to charge my card. Guess I didnt really read their terms of service... Who really does these days? With all the software and online crap I use... My day would be nothing but reading terms of use. Oh well I have their library now if they boot me they boot me. Not to mention why would they charge my visa card that clearly states im in the US.

And that statement right there is why XtendaMix should limit their downloads to xxx amount of older videos per month.

We are, and it is because of those users. There are some changes coming, including an increase in fees for new members only and a download cap. It's too bad some people have to ruin it for everyone.

im still waiting for that list :)

don't commit any crimes bro. you have a big mouth.

#1 apparently Im not suppose to be using the site in the first place... #2 I am in 4 record pools and stay on them even after I have downloaded what I can use because new stuff comes out. #3 if I didnt have a library to download I would have never joined. So MR Xtendamix is my money no good as a member and customer? If I am not mistaken Im still a customer. So with that said I did not download and bail.
Extendamix was my fourth choice in record pools. I in fact didnt join your competition in canada for the simple fact that I was limited. Even with excellent customer relations they gave with a phone call, talked to me about their pool etc etc. I was in fact shocked at how they handled their customers and actually appreciated the business. With that said... I did not join because the library only went back 3 weeks for new customers. Im not sure of anybody that would join that couldnt get older vids? Not to mention Extendamix cost me the most out of all of the record pools I am a member of. I have built a library of 3TB of music and music videos which in itself is alot of work for someone that doesnt have time to sit behind a computer all day. Did I need Extendamix? NO. Am I a member? Yes.
A crime. Thats retarded. If you want to get technical and the video police want to get technical. Get technical. They would have to build an ever growing prison for just DJ's.

another video pool in Canada? do tell please!


Shenanigans! I have been ripping and downloading videos for a year and half and I'm barely at 700 GB

lol, its like saying you go to mexico to buy weed and its not a crime cause its ok there

DJ DisGrace: when you download everything and anything you find, regardless of if you need it or not, you can get that high pretty fast

ta2423: XtendaMix, at $35.00 per month, is your highest cost for a record pool? You should just be quiet and count yourself lucky.

Ha Ha, I actually think around here they actually do go to canada to get theirs.

That's OK, this is a good lesson for Mark over at XtendaMix. When I talked to him a few weeks ago I told him then that more and more DJ's would "take advantage" of his services.

Sorry to see that what I told him is true...but I am not surprised.

I wont mention others right now... but with research the average is "Cough cough" 9.99 a month to 50.00 a month with all of them, some charge annually that has a sticker price shock but when spread out over a year it still costs the same. I dont choose because of price, I choose because of selections and ease of the site.
I didnt take advantage of xtendamix. Im still a paying member and will continue until I am not happy with the new content.

Lesson??? He needs to keep it the way it is. He is in business to make money and he has my monthly payment on time every month. The way it is now is exactly why I joined so he is doing something right.

Xtendamix... Is my money good or not?

Fair enough... I guess I'm just selective, deleting alot of filler, doubles, and off-key mashes

lol I am as well

Hm Business must not be your strong point. Let's assume this as an example.

Pay $35.00 per month for unlimited access to XtendaMix. A person coming in can download everything and then leave.
Advantage: User

Pay $35.00 per month for new selections and (lets be really generous here) 50 older songs.
Advantage: both

Or there is this model (much like Promo Only)
Pay $35.00 per month and for an additional fee (let's say $35.00) the user can access one pre-selected listing of 20 songs. Think Promo Only's Best of 2006, volume 3 for example.
Advantage both, but more in favor of XtendaMix

After paying for every PromoOnly release for almost 7 years I think that any option that XtendaMix comes up with is good for me. And actually I would perfer the last one...just so people cannot log in for one month, download everything and then come on boards and brag about it...and then resell those videos to other users as well (and yes I have seen that happen)

obviously for me to be legit again I have to delete extendamix's videos. Lesson to me to actually read the terms. Loss... 35.00
Actually was wondering why it would only take canadian provinces at first but accepted my us address for payment.
I would pay extra for older video's as long as I had access to them to see what Im getting. I would even pay a flat fee for all the previous videos. Money is not the problem. I do however dont want to join a pool that only goes back a few months with no access at all to older videos.

Their market is dj's... Most dj's dont make enough to afford high dollar pools. So they have to be affordable to the people using them.

oh crap... I better check the terms on the canadian porn sites Im downloading from.

most incorrect thing ive ever read on this board, if their market was bedroom DJs then yes i could see that but working djs shouldnt have trouble affording a good pool and if they cant their doing something wrong

especially if your doing video, i mean come on man you should be making some real money there

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if its not in Canadian dollars then no its not

+1

Answer this question and we can give you an answer.

Do you live in Canada?

Ha.. They converted it to canadian when they charged my card.
Yes I live in canada 2 weeks out of the year. So when I go live in canada for 2 weeks I will get the video's.

with the case of how much a vj makes... That just depends where you are at and the call for it. If you can afford jay z to make a video for you personally then yes you are at baller status. Everyone starts somewhere and not one of you started with a profit when starting unless someone else gave it all to you.
Just remember how you got your first video's... Some may be all perfect go doers and have it that way... Some dont.

wow i was readin through the terms so i can continue bein a smart ass and read this

Licensee must disable and remove all tracks from their collection if they do not access the company’s website for longer than 30 days or upon written termination of the agreement.

....thats kinda fucked up lol i mean im sure theres a logical reason but lets say i go on tour for a month and dont really need new vids ill need to erase all the vids im using...kinda odd

Dude, a) you don't live in Canada...you visit canada, if that. Secondly are you seriously saying that it's OK to steal, lie, and/or cheat to get what you want just because you are "just starting out"?

I'm done with you and I hope that now you have admitted in writing to XtendaMix that you do not live in Canada I hope that he revokes your account if only to protect himself. (nice job admitting that by the way)

if you dont make 9.99 a month to cover the videos your using to make money your doing something wrong, and yes i remeber where i started i got a job to afford equipment then used legal quality music to get gigs, saved money and graduadily joined more pools, even when i was a noob 9.99 a month wasnt hurtin my pockets

It's the same way with PromoOnly...they have the right to request all of your audio/video discs back after you leave them. They don;t usually enforce it, but it's there.

ya i understand them being able to ask you to delete but i dont understand making a rule about having to access the site a certian amount of times in a time period, its their rules so cool thats them but it seems kinda odd to me

Maybe "not access" is the same thing as not paying for your account every month. As long as you are a paid-up member then everything is OK.

Just a guess.

Justin... Im assuming you live in canada? You sure are sticking up for extendamix here... Im also assuming you dont live in canada... Do you use their videos? Kinda odd that you are a us citizen and affiliate with them? Yes I am a member of the "9.99" pool but at the same time I hear about legalities with them. Im not worried about admitting to them that and they probably will terminate membership... Big deal dude... When I originally signed I did not read that I had to be canadian... Again big deal... I did not knowingly join the pool to steal video's... I can do that at walmart if that was my state of mind... Or even better yet hit craigslist for a harddrive filled with vids... I dont so quit riding me. Done with me? You dont even know me.
Everybody is a sinner and you are not god...

???? you mean canadian vj's right?

how did you not read that you had to be canadian when the 1st thing you have to fill out is a form stating where you live...and there are no USA options on the form ....and then this is stated

Users violating these conditions will be denied access to the site permanently and will be reported to the proper authorities.

By entering, you are signing and agreeing to a digital agreement confirming that all the above statements are true.

I am in no way affiliated with XtendaMix, and do not speak for them. I have had discussions with Mark about several things including encoding techniques and bringing his service to the USA. And basically Mark told me what he has told everyone else...he is making changes and one day hopes to extend his services to the USA.

And as far as my library collection...we'll count me as a dumbass as I have paid for, and have original copies of every song and video in my library. You see, I started out a ways back when you could only get Vinyl or Video Tape and DJ's with talent actually didn't try to screw over everyone else by making copies and giving it all away for some short-term gain.

And I have plenty of other things I am a sinner for...but my music library is not one of them.

Bezzle... I thought it was some gliche... Typed in my own address when I got to the canadian part I tried usa couldnt and just left it and pushed enter... When it came time to pay it did in fact take my us residence and took payment as normal... Didnt even think to check terms because I dont share or distribute. Low patience so I tend not to read...
No big deal... I violated so ban me from the site... Lesson learned on my side. Loss 35 dollars... If I am not mistaking during sign up it did state that the currency would be converted from us dollars to canadian. Whats the purpose in that if I cannot be a member because Im a US citizen...

I should also add I have receipts from any download sites as well. And I would never think of selling or giving my library away to anyone.

Lots of canadian citizens have bank accounts in the US. The rate of exchange is favorable most times. I happen to have a credit card from the Bank of England from when I used to travel there all the time. The only reason I got it was to save on the rate exchange.

lol

I know this... I sale boats to canadians all the time... When their dollar is strong they buy in the us because they save money. Doesnt matter... At the same time when the card is approved it has to have a matching address which in my case is US.
So the info was there that I am in fact a us citizen.

Wow, a long read. VJ Justin Allen, thanks for the support. It's not because of you I was putting these changes into place. We've been at $35.00 since we started with 200 videos, now we're over 2200 and the price is the same. Truth is, the labels take a percentage and want a few more bucks for the amount of downloads. So, we bump up, or cut down...and yes, if a user signs up, downloads everything and leaves, we do actually lose money. Not sure what the changes will be yet, but either an increase for new users only (current users stay the same), or a download cap, which would keep people in the pool longer in order to get everything.
Not sure yet, but everyone will know long before it happens.

We are like everyone else...we started buying the promo only discs for $40 a month from day one. As we did with vinyl and CDs previous to that. If we all waited till last year when everything became available on itunes, no one would have needed a startup collection. For new DJs who get everything for free, it's frustrating when you can become a DJ by joining one pool, then brag about it later.

Did we waste money on having vinyl now that everyone can be downloaded and played back in serato? You don't need that classic anymore, you can download the mp3 and have everything on vinyl now. But who knew...and we needed it in that format at the time..and there are some classics that you will never find anyone which cannot be replicated.

With all the pools out there, you can now start video DJing with over 4000 unique tracks for about $100. It's sad to what the industry has come to for those people who used to spend that on 8-10 tracks a week.

Anyways, we choose the legit route for a video pool and have overcome many barriers that were previously set out for us. We are in Canada and have deals with the Canadian labels only. We are also part of the AVLA and do have restrictions. One of them being that we cannot sell outside of our territory because each territory owns their own content and our permissions are for Canada. As for the site, we could have Geo-locked it so you needed a Canadian IP address to login, but then how do we show international labels what the site is about. What happens if you live in Canada, but do a show in the U.S.? So basically, if you found a way to beat the system, don't brag about it.

Hate to say "Well back in the dayz"...but back in the dayz, if you joined a record pool, you were happy to pay $70-$120 a month to get what you need. This is still a business and if you can't afford $50 a month, you shouldn't be in this business...and even when joining a pool, there was gonna be stuff you didn't get, and you'd go out and buy it...back in the vinyl days, a working dj probably had to buy $200-$300 a month minimum just to stay current...

I'd be interestested in checking out Extendamix's library, but I can be patient, there are more then enough sources of content out there to do without. If you are well connected enough, you probably don't need any pools for videos. If you are totally unconnected, I can't see how you can do without the video pools...

While they are shady people out there, I think all the video pools out there are probably doing well enough to not have to trip about some djs downloading their whole library or sharing their password...In the end, it's still a business with customers trying to get the most they can, and the business trying to expand and make as much as it can.

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And as far as my library collection...we'll count me as a dumbass as I have paid for, and have original copies of every song and video in my library. You see, I started out a ways back when you could only get Vinyl or Video Tape and DJ's with talent actually didn't try to screw over everyone else by making copies and giving it all away for some short-term gain.




Best fucking post Ive seen in a long time...

What it means you young punk bitches is quit selling hard drives and bootlegs

and while im bitching, did you see the video of dj vice mixing on the radio? he successfully mixed 2 songs together and the other djs in the room went crazy hootin and hollering...

lets take all these top tier djs and give them a dozen or so REAL vinyl records and have them try to mix then.

What are you talking about you hypocrite? You love bootlegs and you love 8thwonder, 90% of your posts are about 8thwonder.

The pots the same colour as the kettle you ape.

90% of my posts are about people who are editing things incorrectly. you can kiss my ass.

Wowzer's

Burn the hypocrites lol.

tracking thread!

lol i'm tracking this too!! ..... waiting for dj mups to chime in! i know he couldnt have imagined his simple question sparking into a 'spit fire" thread !

whats this all "aboot" ?

wheres my popcorn.

LOL... Yeah definitely not my intention... Just sitting back with popcorn in hand now like everyone else haha...

I think it's all over.

kurupt said it.