Some has just suggested it the other day.
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I doubt Serato will support this, because it has been requested several times before now and it never happened. It is just not beneficial for a company to give you a whole DJ set up on software that they give for free. They make their money off the equipment they sell.

Is there any software that will allow you to do this then if we can't depend on Serato to develop it further?

Traktor Pro and Virtual DJ would be the most popular choices for internal mixing only.

I don't see why this would hurt them. You still need to buy an sl1 or an sl3.

This is true that's why they made ITCH specifically for this task.

except Itch controllers suck imo. I want to use the controller of my choice. I'm still spending 500+ on hardware, they're making their money.

How would this hurt them.. even with VDj or Traktor to really make the application work well, you need the hardware. I don't care what MIDI controller your using.. they still suck to some degree. I have wanted so many times to do mini mixes for my events at work but i can't because there is no option for internal mixing. I also posted something about a sync button. REGARDLESS if you want to use it or not, but an application should have these options. If you can't use SERATO without the hardware, then what harm would it cause for them to have an internal mixer. Maybe they can have a release that would be available if you can provide a serial number off the purchased application which they should do, if they only want registered or offical purchases to have this release. there are options. Serato is great but it need to pick up its game among the other competitors out there.

Serato does not work without hardware. It's as simple as that. All they would be doing is providing those of us who can work on many platforms (internal, records cdjs) all the options we need to stay with the company.

Without the hardware pugged in, you can still listen to your tracks, so why don't they just add another track option and gain control. Then you would have an instant mixer.

Buy Cubase/Reason/Logic and mix, remix, create what you want anywhere!
Or get a freeware WAVE editor and mix there!

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If they add an internal mixer that works with no hardware connected everybody will just download it and use that running out of a line out. Exactly the same reason VDJ is so commonly pirated (it requires no hardware whatsoever)

Nobody who has asked for an internal mixer has ever suggested in any of these threads or posts this should be done without hardware.

the amount of work to add in all the programming needed for software mixer controls in SSL would be completely counter intuitive and a waste of valuable development time imo. not to mention it would take up more precious real-estate on the GUI. :)

seems like they already have the pieces programmed in. There's already gain on both channels and volume fader on the sampler. Plus they could just add a tab so if you don't want it there you don't have to have it. All your arguments have been destroyed....

man if they would just let the gain go to 0 (-20 db) I would be satisfied.

Are you still here?

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are you?

Except that it would still require valuable development time for additional programming and UI assets which could be better used fixing bugs/adding features that would be more useful for the majority of SSL users.

If you want a internal mixer why don't you go to Torq or something that already have an internal mixer?

I and others like and are used to the serato platform. Why is this so hard to get?

That's been discussed enough times already. Don't think it needs to be done again.

Well then why are you fools bringing it up? In the internal mixer thread?

Clearly I didn't bring it up.

The only way I could see this happening would be if Serato or Rane came up with a small "dongle" type device (think Digidesign's "Mbox 2 Micro") that had one or more audio outputs built into it.

Since the market for DJ software with built-in mixers seems to be based around very low price points, it may not make economic sense for either company to pursue such a product.

It's also logical to assume that the overall "professional" image of Scratch Live might be cheapened by that kind of move.

Creating an "internal mixer" version of Scratch Live (or a plug-in) without any dependent hardware would require Serato to incorporate some form of copy-protection, and probably make the folks at Rane rather unhappy.

Too many "fails" for this.

Serato still needs a soundcard, that soundcard would still be made by Rane. Nothing would change except the interface would be whatever controller the user picks, turntables mixer or midi and internal.

The entire Dj world is moving towards midi, it's only a matter of time. The professional image you're talking about doesn't matter to the newbs and newbs will one day rule the scene, as all newbs did before them. Serato already has much of these thoughts or they wouldn't have Itch. What they need to is open up live for an all midi setup or risk being left behind. I say this because I like this company.

From the original post in this thread:

"I have always wanted to mix music without having to have my hardware plugged in."

Sounds like you're asking for something else.

You said it yourself...Serato wouldn't have ITCH.

Itch is for MIDI
Scratch Live is DVS.

I am a DJ on my college radio station and in the studio there is a Serato Mixer and two nice technics turn tables. However I have absolutely no experience with them and very little with mixing in general. It would be nice to have the aforementioned "internal mixer" feature like in Tracktor so that I could practice at home and then when I have to go do my sets at the station I would already have the presets and have had a general run through of my set. I do not have money to buy a mixer and am not interested in doing this professionally as I am an architect. However, it would be nice to be able to practice with an internal mixer because I can't really practice when I'm on air. And when I am not on air, other people are.

is there a plug in somebody else has made?

we never see Internal mixer in Serato in my opinion:
1) Latency (due midi protocol) and Serato never give Latency (itch is Hid,etc..)
2) the relationship between Rane and serato is really strong.

Jus my 2 cent

Scratch Live is ONLY compatible with RANE products. Rane/Serato would never put an internal mixer in Scratch Live in the offline player as mentioned above - would be like cutting their own throat.. be happy that Scratch Live updates are always free, lets keep it that way. Not like hey upgrade to version 3.0 and pay $99 for it (Native Instruments).

Even if Scratch Live had an "internal mixer" with the interface hooked up it would still be a bad move for Rane (the only supported hardware for SL) as they also sell --Mixers-- in addition to SL1/SL2/SL3/SL4 interface boxes.

@jbransky4


Not to single you out for the "I can't afford it" issue as this is a real one, but....

It needs to be said, DJ'ing is NOT a cheap hobby, job, career, love affair, relationship.. If you don't know that going in your heading for a BIG dissapointment sooner than later. If you were going to work as a Carpenter with no tools, you couldn't do anything, right? The quality and amount of tools that you aquire only make the job easier or more professional in the end results.

If you are an Architect and you "are not doing this professionally" perhaps you should consider a downgrade to a less expensive program and keep yourself out of the radio station. If you want to use an industry standard program, well then I guess you need to buy the equipment in order to learn.. Like everybody else...

Heads up people, if you just started DJ'ing - this is not a cheap experience. If you want to play the guitar or something you can learn on a cheap garage sale guitar.. For relatively little money. This is not true for DJ'ing and never has or will be.. The gear costs money and the music that you play costs money and if you plan on playing new music this is an "always expanding" cost.

Sorry, jbransky4.. Its just that I am suffering from a case of "old veteran DJ" vs. "young novice DJ" issues.... :-)

Just use Serato "Intro" then. It's pretty much a fulfillment of the original feature request here, although as a separate piece of software.

Itch or Itch should fix your problem. Rane + Serato for SSL with with a SL box or Rane mixer

@ thebuttonfreak
Whats your preferred controller?