I am happy with 8 clean counts, anything else is a bonus for me :) However 16 or 32 is better but even then it depends on how they then transition into the song.

A longer intro slapped on to a video does nothing for the floor if that transition is too abrupt. I find myself lots of times using SelectMix audio for some of my videos...they have done a decent job of adding ins and outs to the songs and they usually end up matching the video pretty well most of the time.

8 bars

8 bars you can mix on point every time.

8 is great, but I often just do remuxes for my intros - I'll take 4 bars if it's all that will fit!

i like to keep my intros at a nice and even 13.75 bars. unless it's house music or above 130bpm, then i obviously like my intros at 29.25 bars. great crowd reaction every time i mix. everyone will stop and look at you, it never fails. then you can start pumping your fists.

1 bar then loop with VSL ... HA! Kidding...

I think it depends on the song or style... In house music I would like 16 bars or more for a build up doing extended mixing style or in pop/top40/hip hop 8 bars is fine.

8 bars either side of a radio edit is perfect for urban, pop, rock etc, you've got the beats for mixing and the song is exactly as people know it, so everybody is a winner in that scenario, funkymixes are a good example of this although they re-drum alot of stuff which isn't always for the best.

When it comes to doing house nights you need to be as close to full length as possible, I'm not a fan of 8 minute mixes because they are only designed for the hardcore crowds at hardcore events imo, 5-6 minutes however is perfect, you need at least 64 beat intros/outros to account for drift, also you don't want radio edits with beats slammed either end, generally you lose the intensity and the big builds are common place with full length mixs.

"That are common place"

ok, so the standard here is about 8 bars

i am guessing you mean in the time, those are seconds. correct?

can you define time?

oh man, i am guessing you are just messing with me, like i did to a-swift.
if not will you clarify what "can" means?

i have no idea how long 13.75 intro is unless you meant a 29.25 second intro. cuz that would be about 8 bars at a 130bpm.


wait, you are messing with me.

how many beats in a bar?

I just remember from the old days when I'd buy Ultimix records and such that they'd always have that (32) printed on the labels so I knew they had 32 beat intros. Never new how many bars though.

in what we are referring to (hopefully): 8 beats.

good to know.


So, how many beat downs in 4 bars located in New Orleans?

that's weird.
the waaay back original intros for ultimix/funkymix had waaay longer intros.

they must have meant "intro" as in "clean beat intro" or "no other bsht YET intro" cuz some of those intros would go into same crazy sampling and scratching for at least 30 secs that i would have to edit out

1 bar = 4 beats

ah, ok
when i count i always count to 8

maybe i should just ask
"how many down beats do you prefer in a video intro and outro should be?

i prefer 64 or about a 30 second intro at 125bpm

take a look at this old label. It an 11:51 version of Promise of A New Day by Paula Abdul. Holy Crap that's long.

look at all the (32) intro's, breaks, etc. Some are (32-32).

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4 beats to a bar, 8 bars to a measure. = 32 beats.

I think this is the gold standard.
anything more (outside of the edm world) is pretty much overkill.

I certainly loop the 32 though on occasion if Im gonna swap basslines on 2 tracks
or really want to get creative and make the mix more than just a means to get
from track 1 to track 2...

some of the services lean TOO MUCH to one side of the way to populate
this intro....Its Either a empty kick, snare,hi-hat ride... or riddled with irrelevant
samles and the infamous "hype" (even on the first 4 sometimes)

If I could have it my way each one would just be the instrumental, perhaps with
some re-drumming.

We called 'em "measures" at band camp.

what happens in band camp should stay at band camp.

Especially when band camp is next to cheerleading camp.

I seriously doubt that band camp was EVER next to cheerleading camp.....

But one could dream Justin... I know you would have loved that when you were in band camp.

ever see the baby got back video from the unrated bandcamp dvd....rawr

I almost used that for my babygotback video