So I took a listen to dubstep twice to see what all the hype was about and the shit is HORRIBLE!! I always have an open ear before judging and I listened to it two different days and I just concluded that it sucks. I have no idea why hipsters are all about it. It sounds like chopped and screwed electro that's undanceable.

Wobble Wobble baby. Its that electro-crunk fo life! (or until it becomes to contrived lol)

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DUBSTEPPIN'!!!!

I didnt like it until sniffles dragged us to a show to see skream and benga. Its a WHOLE different animal in person. That bass aint meant for home speakers.

You just stay on your side of the fence, we'll stay on ours =P

That was a crazy ass party!!!

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dubstep... more like SUCKstep.

it's definitely a niche. You can't mix it with anything else. With alot of songs you can sneak it into a normal club mix. I can just picture sneaking dubstep into a mix at the club and getting "the look" by everybody like WTF is this shit!??

Yeah theres no throwing a bit of wobble wobble into a top40 set. lol that would be funny to watch, half them wouldnt know what to do.

some rap/dubstep cross over tracks though....
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can you really form and informed opinion by listening to a genre of music twice in 2 days??

WTF was that? Were they high....

I can understand the killer Bass and sub tones but i would rather hear some good Miami Bass because of the "extras" that go along with it....

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back to topic...

My opinion, To understand dubstep sound quality counts, poor fidelity might make sound very bad. that bass pumping and low frequencies will make you shake.

+1

Hahaha Anytime a song was just too crazy, people would hold up a "REWIND" sign and they'd just start the song from the beginning unmixed so people could actually get ready for it.

Detroit has a weekly dubstep party

I'm not really into it that much.. I looked into it a few years ago but got distracted. This is still one of my favorites that you CAN drop just about anywhere: www.youtube.com view - but like everyone said, you gotta have proper sound to get the full effect.

I'm not going to sugar coated or justify it by saying I didn't catch the full effect by playing it on home speakers or crappy speakers or whatever. I've heard it in a good sound system and it's still horrible to me. Not only that, but the crowd didn't know what the hell to do while it was playing.

That is all.

Sounds like bad 80's European Techno... I'm just sayin.. How much more artificial can music sound?

OMFG...

I just realized something - MUSIC ALWAYS REPEATS ITSELF. Just like Rap & Hip Hop has become the 70/80 BPM hot garbage that is popular has become "Rap",

I guess Dubstep is like the parallel equivalent of Drum and Bass - slowed down garbage without the funky breakbeats to make it LIVE (sorry sniffles).

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Lose the House Piano, Funky drum loops, and samples (AKA all the good shit) - you got dubstep....

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I used to love some of that stuff on Reinforced Records back in the day, that Bass was unbelievable on a good system.

^^ the truth.

IMO dubstep is definitely the worst edm ever made. I've been into a lot of just about all of the other genres too, but 99% of dubstep isn't even music to me. For fans of dubstep, pitch up those bass tones so you can actually hear them, and then check out how off-key a lot of the shit is. Many (not some, but MANY) of those "producers" can't even write music even a little bit, it's horrid. There's people that I KNOW around these parts that don't know shit, and never knew jack shit about music, and I know for a fact are terrible producers (swatchdog is not one of them, he's talented) that are putting out highly praised dubstep releases.

Like everything there's exceptions, but I can't think of anything else people have called music that in general is even within nuclear missile range to being as crappy as dubstep is. Not David Hasselhoff, Smurfs theme song mash-ups, or those super-alternative instrument bands that play saws and coffee cans and whatever else they had lying around the garage.

Dubstep IS however VERY effective at keeping it "real" underground. You're not gonna see more than a couple hundred people (or even 100) at very many dubstep events.

PS, what the fuck was wrong with breaks? Everyone liked breaks + many tracks had just as good, if not better bass production (see Tipper for real examples of how to be musical with bass)

i still rock breaks!!

Yeah. It's kinda like taking a shit and waiting for people to eat it.... you're not gonna see a lot of that either. Same principal applies here. hahaha

hahaha

I don't know man, people diss it... Mixmag only devotes half a page to breaks reviews now.

about dubstep, all those haters should check out the techno/dubstep style that is coming up. artists like Appleblim, Martyn, Ramadanman, etc... a far cry from Skream and Benga

also the trailblazing warped UK garage album Untrue by Burial

I usually strangle kittens when I'm making my dubstep basslines. It really helps me get that nice bass hit and crisp drums.

My favorite dubstep artist right now is Level 67

It sounds more like hiphop than 95% of the garbage outside now.

Nah, that's not right. You can go from UK Garage to Dubstep to
Funky to House to Hipster stuff to whatever else has similar BPMs.


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dubstep has half-time snares but is actually 130-140 bpm. so it mixes well with fidget and bassline house

Totally.. And that's the thing too, the half-time snare isn't needed to be dubstep, but that seems to be the thing that people latch onto now.

The first dubstep tracks I heard were these

Horsepower - Gorgon Sound www.youtube.com view
Artwork - Red www.youtube.com view
Skream - The Bug www.youtube.com view

One of the tunes that had the template for the typical halfstep thing before it became cliche is Loefah - Disko Rekah www.youtube.com view From Serato HQ in NZ we've put a bunch of huge US DJs onto that and from what I've heard it's getting played a fair bit now.

Just to show dubstep isn't a one trick pony this is one of my fave tracks in any genre from the last few years:
2000F & J Kamata - You don't know what love is www.youtube.com view

I hear dubstep is the music of the devil and malcontents all over the globe.

Thats probably one of the most interesting songs I've heard. Def a dope song

love this song. tho the remix is the banger in these parts.

dub step bassline are creeping in every where....

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Not gonna go into one.. Dubstep has grown on me. love chucking it into the middle of a house set.

If you love dubstep.... YOU'LL LOVE THIS!!!!


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IDK, to me this DubStep sounds like some half assed unfinished DrumnBass/Jungle beats.
Like the producers were just to lazy to finish adding to the tracks and said "Lets call the DubStep"

Dubstep sounds like some drunk fuck auto-tuned his own farts.

im starting to like it!!

look up Excision and Datsik. you wont' think that for long.

the reason dubstep... might catch on is.. its a lower bpm. people dont wanna be fist pumpin. it does have some nasty basslines, ur gonna see people puttin 50 cent over this shit...

i live in a town where house/electro is not well liked, people call it techno still, but dubstep might make its presence known, i can see it working here, which is better than most hip pop out there that im forced to play...

^^I highly doubt that. Lil Wayne and Pharrell had a dubstep inspired song out during the summer that quickly lost buzz after 2 weeks. Bmore club gets great feedback in all hip hop clubs.

people use to talk mad shit about bmore before it blew up. look at some of the really old threads where a lot of djs were talking shit like they are now with dubstep. bmore sounds repetative, its the same drum sequence, the phrases get boring, etc. etc.

I know because I love bmore and had to take a lot of shit for playing it before the crowds started loving it and before "i'm the shit" made it popular. Actually, a bunch of the other bmore heads had to take a lot of shit too.

I hate Drum and Bass but I still don't bash on it.

i dont have a clue about dubstep OR bmore lol

dub step really isnt that bad IMO. i mean its not crazy fuckin all over the place like drumNbass its a little more settled with suome supa freakish bass riffs! i wouldnt playing it. and can see this blowing up one day

Dubstep is the future. Get used to it.

It's just that most peoples ears are very highly developed yet! And their brains just aren't willing to accept something so different. Fucking cave men.

Gimme that wobble wobble any day of the week, and shove your twinkley top 40 bullshit hot garbage up your corn hole.

if dubsteps the future i got nothin to worry about cause my my area hasnt even caught up to the present

Dubstep will never break out of being a niche EDM genre. Bmore has danceable beats that any normal person can get down to but Dubstep requires retarted seizures to dance to.

Acutually the average joe has no idea that bmore or dubstep exists lol

lol

Sounds like you'd fit in just fine!

lols

Breaks turned into electro house and got shit - some good stuff coming back now tho.

Wobble Wobble dubstep is just crap for kids. No different to jump up DnB.

Techno/dubstep stuff is great. 2562 can be added to your list as well.

Where it's meeting with house and garage is interesting. Hyperdub for example. Roska, Cooly G, Guido, Untold, Soul motive, Applepips, joy orbison

Try these, all really well know, or should be but very different from the tracks earlier in the thread.

Joy Orbison - Hyph Mngo - www.youtube.com view

Guido - Beautiful complication - www.youtube.com view

Cooly G - Love Dub www.youtube.com view

Couple of mixes worth listening to:-

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as long as the beats are easily recognizeable bitchs will dance to anything if u play it at the right time in the right way..

thats why drum n bass never made it. it was too fast.. bitchs wanna grind and shake their ass and look sexy

wrong. most bitches can't really dance.

worst thing ive ever heard!! negative rep to you +1000

Drum and bass never made it?? what the F are you talking about? let me guess you mix house right?

dont get all defensive. i never seen or heard of too many clubs in the states doing drum n bass. it barely even hit here..

dubstep has a slower feel to it.. slower bpms, its not all crazy so its easier to accept to the normal audience.

i mix everything and try to have an open mind about music, lemme guess u only mix dubstep and drum n bass...

whats hes saying is it never caught on mainstream....your average joe off the street prob cant name 1 DnB song

that depends what street you're on.

Damn right.

In London everyone knows Drum & Bass

It's just you poor Americans who live in backwards-ville! no offence ;)

at least we dont have werewolves

that's true

hahah lol, eveyone knows of DNB. i dont know really. im not stats keeper.
but DNB is not something "bitches cant shake their ass to". it certainly is something asses can be shaked at.
and no i mix all stuff, DNB & Dubstep at the club only. but at home diff story.

check my soundcloud page for my style of mixing. soundcloud.com/djwazo

knows of the genre yes, can name an artist or a song title no they def cant, and just knowing a genre exists dosent mean it "made it"

And we all know you you can dance to anything with a beat but girls do typically complaing on beats higher than about 120 to 128 (at least girls who are not there TO see music above that BPM)

You think the Top 40 crowd can name an artist or song title to Top 40 songs? How many times have you've gotten a request like "Can you play that song by that person? It kinda goes like this (da da de da da de da da de da da)......you know what I mean? You don't? You call yourself a DJ?"

lol...no but i do get...PLAY LIL WAYNE...every 5 minutes....then i ask which song and they go PLAY LIL WAAAYYYNNNNEEEEE!!!!

Never. DNB heads dont play games like that.

and i know what song goes da da de da da de da da de da da
its will smith gettin jiggy wid it. lol

Yeah, but Bmore was funky and it pulled from older stuff - classics. Like they said:


That said, the true test of any upcoming genre is if "Black Folks" or other ethnicity can get into it, especially the kids (20 and under). So far the only that is passing without ethnic support is Trance and I don't see a HUGE Trance following here in the States.

I remember doing a friends Sweet 16 for his daughter about 4 or 6 years ago (whenever that stupid Spongebob song was hot) and they kept requesting Baltimore Music. I'm thinking Charli Baltimore (mediocre rapper), they went and got a mixed CD for me to play that was Bmore and I thought, this shit aint bad.

Dubstep is interesting for the moment, but I don't see it as the "next big thing" but i could be wrong.

I don't stay on top of things as much as some of you, but I've been hearing this "next big thing" about dubstep for a long time now. If it's going to "blow" then it'll have to somehow crossover into the mainstream but of course that's when it'll be "played out" to us DJs.

Dubstep sounds like someone autotuned a fart



I agree with deez. I've been hearing about dubstep from the hipsters/trendsters since late 2006, and this shit STILL hasn't taken off? You know why? because it sucks.

Unless youre a Top Tier/world famous DJ (Kraze/Klever) where anything you play will be dope to the crowd, or you have a niche following of those who enjoy dubstep (AC Slater, Winter Music Festival), youre just going to look like as ass trying to play dubstep. Dubstep will always be a underground, PBR drinkin, back-room sound. It will never take off in the mainstream. Some people want to compare "baltimore" club music to dubstep. Just like dubstep , "baltimore" has barely infiltrated the Top 40 scene, DJ Class- I'm the Shit barely counts, bc even that song is a watered-down popified track. All this "baltimore" club shit that is being played in the mainstream is just remixes with the bmore drum loop. Have you EVER heard in original/non remixed baltimore club track (Rod Lee) in the mainstream/upper echelon clubs? NOPE.

So in conclusion- I think dubstep is whack as fuck and it will never take off. Only world famous DJ's and niche DJ's will be able to play dubstep. I do respect AC Slater tho, I saw him here in ATL and it s kind of dope, but then again, it was in a underground basement club, that serves PBR to a broke, non money havin crowd.

Fuck Sniffles.

I kinda hope Dubstep doesn't break that mainstream threshold.

Thanks TOGTFO

I was just thinking that... I'm thinking some dirty south slow hip hop right on top of it. Like some Waka Flocka or Gucci acapella right over an instrumental dubstep track.. People.. Party party party let's all get wasted... I mean, really, isn't dubstep all about getting wasted like a white boy? :)

so true!!! hahaha.

This thread is entertaining.

My favourite dubstep tune of the day is Joy Orbison 'So Derobe' www.youtube.com view

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i had to post this i know im going to hell but its funny

^ lolz. So wrong...

THAT IS FUCKIN EPIC!!!!!

Yes!!! I love it!

yup, youre definitely going to hell, but at least you'll be laughing the whole way down lol

I thought it was brilliant and border-line genius

hahah i feel so terrible for laughing at that... but its so well put together!
looks like a gnarly wobbly ketamine walk

someone needs to email pitbul a dubtrack track so hell drop a verse over it and make it go mainstream....the fact he hasnt done that yet lets me know dubstep will never catch on

For you who hate the slow pace of dubstep..... listen to wobble house instead. It'll break the ice

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or revert to my old mixes

H1N1 Got My Mix!!!!

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Dub and Dub (Club got lost in LA)

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If you dont wanna download, you can stream the H1N1 mix, forgot I put it on soundcloud

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Sorry, no 40 tracks per hour here...... I let the shit play out

Sniffles H1N1 Mix is the dopeness.

Here's how you dance to dubstep tho.
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wobble wobble

new school dubstep sucks... well it doesn't suck but its not as good IMHO. if you like drum n bass then you'll like new school dubstep. old school dubstep uses a lot of jazz samples and doesn't try to be fat just to be fat.

my favorite dubstep song by far is rutten by skream.

and btw, dubstep has broken the mainstream threshold. everyone and their dog listens to it now.

pics or it didnt happen, not only is it nowhere near mainstream most people dont know the genre exists...the logical order here is people know it exists but dont know any music, people hear it and hate it, a counterculture embraces it, that counterculture goes pop, that counterculture rejects it while the mainstream anal rapes it, mainstream forges about it, rince and repeat. From my experience the only people who know about dub step at all are DJs and metro-urban-hipsters

Whomp That Sucka.btw, Bezzle STFU. You live in the 2nd most inbred state in the country, you get scared mixing on cam, you alread claim you are the worst DJ on the forums, what makes you an authority on anything in this forum?

BTWm Dubstep still sucks, but do fux with the wobble house. WHOP THAT SUCKA!

I just walked to my car = Dub Steps.

lol how are you gonna talk shit about the state i live in when you live in the state connected to it lol

Im smarter than everyone in my state, and I'm not even from here. I used to feel my intelligence was average when I lived in NY and MI, but since moving down to the Bible belt south, I feel like Albert Motherfuckin Einstein, and you're still annoying as fuck

im not from here either, and i must not be to annoying cause you seem to LOVE talkin to me

don't flatter yourself noob.

lol dont have to flatter myself you do a fine enough jobo of that for me

I just looked at my car = Dub Dueces.

(just kidding I'm on a budget)

he keep em clean tho

Day-Day: Got them 20s on there, them 20s, I just got them.
Craig: Them ain't 20s but it's off the hook.
Day-Day: Dem are 20s man, nah they 10s, I bought em from somebody, but they nice though.

DJ TOGTFO - it's fine to hate on a genre but dude.... chill out a little.

Serato forum rule #1) Be nice to others.

send me some a new face plate for my TTM56 and I will be nice :)

I saw Excision live last night...it was far from horrible.

Awww shit!

Yeah man and it was on my birthday.

Since he is a producer and all I was expecting a live PA/Ableton set similar to Bassnectar. To my surprise he was just spinning CDs. I was kind of disappointed but a couple of songs in and I forgot all about that shit. He killed it. Rowdy as fuck but I had a blast. AMAZING show!

There goes your usual dubstep party. Expecting something, then getting lost in massive bass and the need to punch someone, even though you just jump up and down with your hands in the air. Everyone can say what they want about dubstep but you won't know till you hit a full fledge dubstep party!

Oh yes the French Quadruple along with our Brooklyn native (Montreal bound) Atrak dropped the dubstep tonight! Sit the fuck down America, NY got this shit on lock!

Punch yourself!!!!!!

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Where do you find this stuff? This genre seems to be the hardest for me to track down music. I can find the most obscure electro remix of whatever indie bullshit you want but dubstep...

I check all the majors like beatport but they never have shit anyway, I dig through the blogs and occasionally get lucky but I must be doing something wrong. Probably doesnt help that I'm in Tennessee. Please keep feeding me tracks.

i like it for myself and to listen to in my car or at home, when i played it at the club people don't know what to do.It may just be a lil too much for the people i play for. I need more hippsters and ed hardy katz in my club for it to work. Funny thing is my manager loves it!!!! at around 3 am he tells me to play dubstep because he wants to kick people out.For the bar is a great smooth way to kick people out!!!

Don't fucking ask me bro.... i just sorta fall into shit hahaha. Hit me up on the PM, i'll help ya out in searchin'

for some reason i don't see the ed hardy cats gettin down to dubstep, or even hipsters. it has its own fanbase. if it something you really like, and just not about crowd appeasing, you may want to just join a dubstep crew or start your own night with people who dig it. Its not meant for the average club night..... in all honesty

Try emusic.com. Some of their bitrates are shit (vbr mp3... ugh) but you can get some pretty good gems on there.

Beatport has plenty of dubstep... do you just not like what they have?

;)

dubstep should cross the mason dixon line sometime in the year 2014

main stream in the scene. there are now dubstep stages at raves instead of DnB. I work in a corporate office and all of the younger guys listen to it here. (yes, hipsters but as soon as hipsters listen to something it means it breaking into the main stream) and by your main stream definition trance is still underground. doesn't get radio play, and the average Joe thinks that all EDM is called techno anyway. plus dubstep is being anally raped right now! thats why its catching on because its becoming more "middle brow" friendly. (the people that listen to the radio)

you want pics here: blogs.myspace.com this is one of the biggest deathcore bands around and they had one of their albums remixed into dubstep.

djcity has been posting a few dubstep tracks and remixes recently...haven't heard any on there before.

djcity has been posting a few dubstep tracks and remixes recently...haven't heard any on there before.

More or less ya, lol but there have been "techno" hits that you can say and people will go ohhh ya ok ya i like that, sandstorm, zombie nation, listen to your heart....crap like that....i cant think of 1 song that you could give someone to identify the genre....
example:
do you listen to dubstep
no never heard of it
Well what about ......_______ fill in blank


and with trance there are worldwide huge DJ names you can throw out there, tiesto just did a song with 3 six mafia so THATs mainstream

Do you listen to trance
no, i dont know any trance DJS
what about tiesto
who
the guy who did the i wanna feel it song with 3 six mafia
ohhh ya that guy ok what about him



I cant even list any dubstep artists to name in that situation

also if you look at the worldwide charts most of the top 10 are trance DJs, still dont see any dubstepers on that list

i exaggerated, but my point is the same. just the fact that there are so many replies to this tread defending dubstep proves my point. a year and a half ago if I said dubstep on this forum everyone would have been like, "hu?" anyone who listens to EDM knows what dubstep is.

theres like 10 guys who have dedicated a huge portion of their life to music on here defending it lol........not mainstream....i spin EDM to EDM crowds....ive been trying to explain to them what dubstep is for about 2 months now

it IS becomming known in the DJ culture, im starting to see more internet posts about "check out my new dubstep mix" from really cuting edge hipsters, but as far as mainstream listeners its still deeeep underground

were are you from?

reason I ask is I hear its big in London (very very big) and I know its big here (in LA) so maybe its just where you live.

where I live***

See, its huge here in NYC too.... so for us, we have a hard time not understanding why its not more popular but we just have that exposure to things less mainstream, which I think is great. At the same time, I follow a lot of dubstep crews on facebook and through www.dubstepforum.com and there are a lot of full blown crews throwing down nights all over. Detroit, Chicago, Dallas, Miami ect ect.....

Its not big like in NY and LA but its a start to show that it's more than just people picking up on blogs.

Everyone said the same shit about electro and that got DESTROYED through the masses. I'm sure a lot of the people who aren't digging it now will be playing it in a year or two if it gets picked up. I honestly hope it doesn't. Keep its underground following like D&B so it doesn't get thrashed like the other shit that gets washed out

exactly, i agree with every word of this, its one of the reasons i give my perspective on alot of things on these boards.....you cant use LA NY London places like that as a measuring stick for trends to the rest of the country\world, those places are cultural mecas its got to filter down to the rest of us, it starts at those places early then trickles down to the Detroit, Chicago, Dallas, Miami areas then to the surrounding areas then down to my toilet bowl area about 2 years after the last person in NY has given it up lol

holy shit are you telling me there is good electro?!?!?!!?
link please!!!!! I thought it was all awful but if thats just because the main stream raped it I want to hear what it sounded like before its ass started bleeding!

@ M.Bezzle don't forget that techno started in Detroit. Those genres don't necessarily start in LA, NYC, etc, they just blow up in those places.

exactly but they do tend to blow up in those places before they end up getting big in mississsippi alabama utah and iowa

*nods*
ok then, so can we agree that if it is not big now it is about to be very soon?

i have been getting a bunch of mainstream tracks re made into dubstep!! what does that tell you!!!

That dubstep will probably go to shit before it ever gets a chance

well.... calle ocho - pitbull got the treatment and it was horrible. Not dubstep but the remix was terrible

Didn't Snoop do a dubstep track w/ Chase & Status?

what the fuck is this conversation, is it still going?

of course everyone knows tiesto, and doesn't know dubstep, because it's a niche style of electronic dance music.

if someone asked you to name a psychobilly band, or grindcore, or bluegrass, odds are people that aren't into it aren't going to know.

Dubstep is played.

The new shit is ChillWave Style.

That's the point I was making, their saying it's mainstream it's not if it's a niche genre it's not mainstream

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link stealer!

i can say ive finally found some dubstep mixes im really feelin, that sniffles stuck at home sick D1NB or whatever mix was nice and ive been listenin to that fake 0 dub n club in my car for like the last 3 days staright

I had it first. From z-trip. you didnt even retweet it =P

Haha thanks dude. Fake-Zero is me and Herrera from the forum. That dub and club mix is a 2 part mix. The one you're listening to is just my part..... you should hit up Young Herrera for his part. I think he actually spliced our two together, so he might have that too.

no dout!!

dubstep (both music and the scene) was way better before all the hipster electro guys and clownstep dnb guys started jumping on the bandwagon. It's been steadily going downhill since then...

Especially since so many dnb guys used to hate on dubstep until they realized they got to play to actual people at dubstep parties (in NA, i know dnb in london and a few select places is still pretty huge).

That being said, there's still a lot of good stuff out there, but like anything else - especially when it becomes the hot shit of the moment - you have to dig through a ton of crap to find it.

I think that's the problem - is a lot of you new jacks just getting into the sound are hearing the hot garbage versions of the core genre. It's like the difference between soulful deep house and hipster electro house. Technically the same genre but like night and day in sound and vibe. The shit you're probably hearing is the standard banger-style, disposable tracks for the kids at the parties.

And you'll rarely ever hear dubstep in a mainstream club unless it's a specific genre night and even then, it's generally better suited to raves, warehouse parties and festivals. However, seeing thousands go off to a nasty bassline being battered by several subs is pretty cool to behold.

That being said, i doubt you'll ever hear dubstep break into the mainstream other than a couple curiosities... but the same could be said for most electronic styles that do break into the mainstream. People in the top40 mentality don't really think in terms of genres too much outside of the usual "rap" or "rock" or whatever. But there's no denying the influence of the underground electonic scene on top40 at the moment. Hell, Will.I.Am has been sampling house tracks for a while now and pitbull has made a career out of sampling older house anthems... the listeners won't be able to identify it as house per-se but it's still influencing the producers and the music makers.

on that note:

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Probably the Skream remix of La Roux - In for the Kill is the best example here in the uk. Got Radio 1 play and was used in some computer game advert so was on the telly. Lot of coverage in the press last summer as well. Leaked before it was released. Think it was up for download on the nme website. Played repeatedly at all the festivals last year.

Last 50 seconds is ok, rest is fairly wank.

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the more i listen to it the more i think that dubsteps best shot at mainstream is to be used correctly in a movie or video game, like one of those matrix\badboy club hel scenes, a song where it feels in place and in element that will stick in peoples heads and give them something to assiotiate with it visually so when they hear it later then can go back to "OHHH THATS THAT BAD ASS SONG FROM _____"

well said dj_soo

Feel like a retard.... I did too

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Ahhhh, that defines it - so there IS dubstep out there that doesn't sound like shit!

I understand now. thanks Soo

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That is the stupidest shit I've ever heard!!!!!!


seriously!

man i dunno what this whole "hipster" shit is in the rest of the country, its an annoyance here but the parties are still all about the music regardless who shows up!

Ugh..... people too much into a scene they have no clue about. Oh wow some people dress like hipsters, good for them, most people here (in dubstep) are here because they like the music (not all.....some people are just trying to be apart of something) so whatever. you dont like it, don't listen. dont attend events. its not mainstream so it can't be THAT HARD for some of you to avoid.... right?

Now lets all calm down and relax to this

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are you serious? did you even read my post?

I was trying to illustrate the difference between styles of dubstep. It's pretty obviously the mid-range wobble sound is the style du jour and it's pretty one of the few sounds that non-fans are hearing as that's the sound that gets heard outside of real dubstep parties, and that's the only sound that people associate with the genre.

Or did you just see the word "hipster" and get all snitty cause you thought i was insulting the way you dress?

Hipster-electro, blog-house, whatever you want to call has a markedly different sound from

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Hipster-electro, blog-house, whatever you want to call has a markedly different sound from other styles of "house" even though it's associated with the genre just like clownstep dnb has a markedly different sound from liquid soul.

It's like hearing Gucci Mane and making your judgement of hiphop based soley on bad southern crunk.

No...all I seen was this link to Shambhala as if it were a Dubstep Mecca and you know piss all be all! Dubstep isn't hip hop, it has its facades to fit everyones need. Whether it be mad chill or mad crazy. None has to be the definition of what it is. It can't be whatever..... as long as people enjoy it. Whether its super chill and reggae influenced, or super harsh with what Caspa and Skream kinda did with it which progressed. Who cares! Who cares who listens to it whether it be hipsters, hippies, or fucking World of warcraft nerds! who fucking gives a shit. Just let us enjoy what we like in the way we like and fuck off!

Thats my point

I meant Caspa and Rusko, because Benga and Skream went their own way.... but you get the idea

Damn Soo - 2 for 2 - you are REALLY helping me to understand - you should teach Music Theory!

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what the hell are you talking about? no one ever said shambles is the end-all be all of dubstep (in fact, it's more of a breaks party) - that was more for people thinking you'll never see more than 100 people at a dubstep party.

And no one ever said you can't enjoy whatever music you like. But at the same time, this is a forum of djs and people are allowed to have their opinions on what music they enjoy.

sounds like you have some issues with a persecution complex.

I just have an issue with someone condemning an entire genre without actually hearing the full range of it.

anyway, here's some stuff from some of my favourite producers coming from the west coast of canada.

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Same.

WHOMP THAT SUCKA!!!

Seen Lady Gaga's latest tour has been using a Zomby track?
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Sure, it's something off Where Were U In '92, so it's rave/hardcore, but it's still a dubstep artist hitting the mainstream a little.

so much hate! I like dark places so dubstep is fine by me.

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Every genre must have at least one skirmish in the ongoing Genre Supremacy wars; it's the law.

If you're liking that zomby new/old rave (breakstep maybe?) stuff then some of the sully and hate/unknown tracks are worth a listen. Only found them on boomkat. Few on there but for example....

www.boomkat.com (bad organs is the better track)

www.boomkat.com (flashback and bless are both good)

Nice, thanks for the heads up. I'm definitely into rave, 91-92 was when I really got into music.

C'mon son. Don't pigeon hole hip hop. Hip Hop ISN'T a one trick pony. You and I both know that.

There isn't "chill" and "mad crazy" hip hop?

true

shit, almost every dubstep show I've been to there is someone free styling over the music.

ive seen dubstep crowds in videos...are you sure they were freestyling and not just high and talkin to themselves?

lol

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ROTFLMAO remember my earlier post ....

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I think I got off at the wrong train somewhere, but I think I'm gonna stay

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Which leads me to the man of future dubstep noises

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This dude rocks hard

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for the vjs

that was cool.

Anyone into Phaelah? Probably one of the best producers out right now.

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has anyone heard this song before? I show it to everyone who is into dubstep.

THIS is how you dance to dubstep:
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Hahahah

AHHHHHHHHHHH Fucking FILTHY!!!!!


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UGH!!!!!!!

THIS IS GONNA BE NUTS!!!!

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speaking of dubstep I'm going to see Skream and Benga in July with Diplo, Konrad Black and others!

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Speechless!!!

This is just so everyone may understand now, before it is def too late. Do not let yourself be known as a dubstep dj or producer. Span your genres out now. If you like it, don't show it. You will fall off the planet with the sound. Tween wave sounds better. www.youtube.com view

LOL

Terrible is not a strong enough word to describe this shit. There is not a word in the English language strong enough to describe how extremely hideous this trash is. It was created by posers who do not know anything about music. They cant play any instruments and they can't sing. The onslaught of Home Recording and DAW's is responsible for this noisy vomit coming into existence. The robots that create this vaginal discharge program MIDI instruments without any knowledge of how to play a real instrument.

They post on recording forums as if they are "producers". LMAO! How delusional can one be?


Let me put it this way. Justin Bieber is a musical GOD if dubstep is considered music. Presidents have gone to war over the actions of individuals far less sinister than the creators of dubstep. World War should be declared on dubstep and remove it from every corner of the planet. Treat it as if it is a dirty bomb or anthrax. Cyanide is safer to ingest than dubstep.

Write your politicians and demand that dubstep be banned and all dubstepers be imprisoned and stripped of their DAW privileges for life. One thing is for certain, if a person enjoys this noise, he/she are obviously under the influence of mind altering, judgement impairing drugs. This must be stopped at all cost. Let us place dubstep in the dumpster.

If that's true, then a good 75%-90% of underground electronic acts fall in that category. lolz

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lolz

last night i played for the kill dubstep remix and some girl comes up and said

"This shit sounds like two robots are having sex"

Honestly I cant take this anymore. Most kids in my town are straight up depressed so they pick the music that matches to their lives (shit) or dubstep. Every party I play at I get dupstep requests and I really dont wanna play it. What's wrong with kids today? Why don't they wanna listen to uplifting party starting beautiful music? TRIBAL HOUSE & UPLIFTING TRANCE FOREVER

This just in; it's all America's fault: www.blagsound.com

AMEN!

theres good dubstep and bad dubstep. many kids are drawn to loud, obnoxious music ala punk, metal, hardstyle, etc. so the acceptability of obnoxious crap shouldnt be surprising. i liked taco bell when i was 16-18 yrs old too, i wouldnt touch that shit if it was free now.

on the skrillex dude, i say live and let live. BUT, i will say this, he made people that like dubstep, dislike it and he made people that could put up with the crowds, completely abandon the genre.

I'll stick w/ skrillex's first album w/o a trace of dubstep when nobody liked him thank you. And I agree. I'll never understand it but it seems the same kids who were into screamo and slipknot type music love this "filthy" dubstep that sounds just as awful as the hardcore rock they were into in the first place.

Well....... there is a reason why they call it "BROstep" nothing but cocks on the dancefloor! NO THANX!

If by niche you mean mainstream.... the new freaking Britney Spears has a dubstep break down in the middle of the track. BEP does too......

Its a niche. LOL.

lots of dubstep goes with most southern rap, thats generally how i mix it, go with the female dubstep vox to even out the dope sellin rap.

some dubstep cuts that arent super obnoxious

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the common problem is that most people dont take the time to understand a genre before criticizing it. they just go download the top 10 of itunes and beatport along with whatever record pool they belong too and assume this is 'digging'

Tune!

at one pt. i had so many dubstep haters, i made a mix of stuff like this to prove that dubstep has some different angles other than the electronic barking dog bassline.

Every time a dubstep track is played, a kitten is mutilated.

Just stray ones

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wow.

i wouldnt rush out to a club to hear it but i do like some of it
its no different to when i grew up on the rave scene and all the songs were fresh,manic and everything was new and the sounds unexpected
i like the freshness of it, how its just warped and sick

alot of music nowadays is just mediocre mass produced,copied/re-sampled same old, you know what will happen next, its nice to have something add something fresh to the scene

remember back when you was young? your parents saying how can you listen/dance to that noise? yes you’ve become your parents lol

im 36 but i still love the innovation of it

Moombahton took dubsteps place. Carry-on.

i dont like dubstep really so i avoid it, like many other genres.

i mean there are some gems i've found whilst digging through tunes, but i find the bad far outweighs the good in terms of numbers

Dubstep is when people are making techno but the disc gets dropped and they take a shit on it and screws the disc up the put it back in the computer Walla Dubstep

I think the name of this thread needs to be changed since we have made a clear distinction between what could be excellent music (Dubstep) and what gives dubstep a bad name (Brostep.)

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You shut your mouth when you talk about dubstep.

I actually liked both of those (except for the "CALL 911!!!!!1!!" sample... lolz). I can't handle an entire set of Skrillex-like dubstep though; change it up a bit. DNB went through the same phase for a little while.

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carry on!

you guys are all idiots. expand your minds. dubstep rules. and 100 people a show? ever heard of the ELECTRIC FOREST??? Try 6000 a show dipshit

Yeah? are you sonny moores best friend that you know this? soony moore is skrillex btw. he used to be in a screamo band and mixes that stuff into his new music. get educated. nobody here knows what dusbtep is.

Dubstep is a slower genre around the same bpm as hip hop. Bassnectar's lights remix is a good example of dubstep. I don't understand how the drill sounds from my dentist have become accepted as music and how people are able to enjoy those disturbing sounds. Rusko said it himself that its gone too far that shit is no longer dubstep its brostep. I was the first person to like skrillex (I wish you all the luck in the world ect.) And also one of the first to really dislike him (his new disturbing sound.) I love when he produces house type music but his dubstep is just brostep (crapstep.)

Dubstep used to be about manipulating the bassline for a cool unique sound. Nowadays all im hearinng is a shit generic bassline and mutilated highs.

The first example of drill sounds being accepted as music that I can remember were in Josh Wink's "Higher State Of Consciousness" (but I know they were around in acid house long before that); to date it's the only record I ever participated in breaking (literally... like into pieces). That was in '97 or so...

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Ok...........First of all i love all types of music. Even though im a hip hop head, i spin all genres. And I enjoy it. Over the past few months i've been gettin more requests for Dubstep. I've been readin through this thread and checkin most of the songs posted. Some of it I can deal with like the "Good" example above. But that "Brostep" shit scares me. lol. I guess thats what people mean when they say "play some filthy dirty dubstep!". Im like "GTFOHWTBS." Really, who is the creator of Dubstep. He must have been on something. Maybe it will grow on me, probably not. I'm hoping its jus a fad and will die out, but thats what they said about hip hop right?

Why Timbaland, of course...

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Good dubstep!
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WOW! LOL..you all got owned by Bassnectar. And yes dubstep rules esp this nu cat Gemini. He's 21 yrs old sings dubstep and produces it and it's incredible....Hate on!!

LOL! YES. Best post ever

I'm bored. Who is into 3ball?

Sorry, but nobody was just "owned" by Bassnectar. 6000 people at a show is nothing to brag about when trance has 1 million people shows (Above & Beyond). And how the fuck do you sing dubstep? Record yourself throwing up and shitting at the same time?

I lol'd @ throwing up and shitting ....

the simple fact that guys like skrillex, excision, datsik, and the like are selling out STADIUM venues shows that the genre is long past being just some underground fad.

Like the music or not, a lot of people here claiming the genre would never get past a fad of the moment or would get play beyond a hundred people in a dingy bar are pretty much dead wrong at this point.

Here's an interesting article by Spin magazine on the origins, the current trend of bro-step and the division between the UK style and the NA style:

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sing it in the shower all the time

ZWAAAAAAA!

WUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUB

NYWAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

WUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUB

DOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH!

WUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUB

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Pump Up Bro Stepping

That's a great example of "Rugby Techno" rugbytechno.com

LOL... See how easy it is to sing?

Just a couple quotes i liked. Anyone who says they hate any genre (even country, cause we all know thats the worst form of music :p) should not be a DJ. If you can't open your minds enough to appreciate a talented producer of any genre then who are you to be pushing what you think of as "good music" at any event you play at, whether it be a club, bar, wedding,staff party, rave, festival or anywhere else you may DJ at.
And I would bet a years salary (which may be fuck all compared to some dubstep produces that came from Kelowna (My home)) that i can walk into any club or bar in north america paying me to dj and mix dubstep in too a top 40 crowed and have them go off.

Alot of people here hate country dude so I guess your saying a very good portion of us should not be djs. Choose your wording better next time buddy.

Nope.... I wont I meant exactly what I said.

Haha so any dj who ever said they hate country music shouldnt be a dj. Good stuff.

way to not focus on the point of my post.... Any dj who says they hate any genre should not DJ. To be a professional DJ you should be more responsible than to say you hate any forum of music.

Okay, well I tried to make the distinction between Dubstep and Brostep. Dubstep is usually good shit but Brostep is almost never enjoyable. What if I said I hated Brostep? I guess its hard to say you hate a type of music but it just bothers me and what also bothers me is how its become such a fad. And the only thing that bothers me more about that are the ppl who genuinely do like Brostep have nothing else to do than to try and bash "posers" because they know it sounds so bad that there can only be so many people who actually enjoy it.

They should be happy that anyone even pretends to like it.

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I may agree completely with the cartoon, I still dont "hate" dubstep.

I wonder how many DJs that hate electronic music are those guys that play top 40 music "to get pussy". Just because it doesn't work in your spot, you can't dismiss it. The world is a BIG place & FULL to the brim of producers looking for the next big thing.
I'm no devout dubstep/ NOLA bounce / booty bass / drum & bass / Diplo / Bmore fan (take your pick) but some of the songs that those formulas spit out happen to be good.

Okay, well aside from dubstep concerts where your bound to hear a mess of sounds for teens to mosh to I can't see any practical applications for this brostep shit thats coming out these days.

Damn, most of the posts in this thread are so freakin' stupid! Obviously written by kats that are not only ignorant of Electronic Music, but also have a narrow view of the contribution that Dubstep has made to the overall Electronic Community in general!!!!!!!

Dubstep is the first Underground Music to "truly" break out into the mainstream, and keep it's status there, firmly in place. Do I like this fact....yes, and no! No, because of what it's been reduced to with all the "mid-range" shit that's being released lately, but Yes, because there are kids (literally) in my scene that started out listening to "Brostep", and have since graduated not only other forms of Dub, but also Drum n' Bass, Minimal-Techno, UKGarage/Future Garage, House, Breaks, etc.. If you ask me, I'd say Dubstep is a tremendous success for Electronic Music, and shudder to think where we'd be if Electro-House had continued it's course unchallenged!!

I for one LOVE Dubstep in all it's forms....BROSTEP included!

That's the beauty of Dubstep...it incorporates a vast amount of elements from MANY different sources (genres), and keeps it at a tempo that's easy to mix in & out of. Not only is the tempo great for matching different genres together, but it's also great that with a slower tempo, you retain "space" for the music (bass) to develop....something that Drum n' Bass lost sight of for quite a few years!

I have had sessions where I have segued from Dubstep, to Breaks, to Bassline, to Funky..then Deep House, to Future Garage, to Minimal Techno, Deep Dub, back to Brostep, slammed over to Drumstep, then Liquid Funk, finishing off w' Hip-Hop!!

Name me another Genre that integrates so many diverse styles of music!?!?! It has become the Glue that bonds the entire scene together.

Stop hatin', and educate yourselves!!

sounds like your hating on electro house :p

Wow... Must I really say anything to this?

No, just what it turned into....FAUX-LECTRO :)

What's wrong w' that?

Hey, I love the "underground', but let's be honest....those days are loooong gone!

If nothing else, Electronic Music being mainstream will at least contribute to upping the standards of the shit that's being produced by Pop Producers! There are underground kats that can produce at a far higher level than the shit that's been being released as "music" here in the past 13 years or so.

But that's a different discussion for a different thread......this thread is about Dubstep!

Oh im not doubting. Electronic musics impact at all if you listen to whhats hot on on the radio almost everything except hip hop is around 128 bpm. Im happy w/ that. However any mainstream music today started out as underground and managed to break out (rock, hip hop, r&b) and besides that one britney spears song you wont be hearinng dubstep on the radio so no, it hasnt REALLY brokenn into mainstream and as fa as keeping any status there "firmly in place" americans have only really known dubstep for two years at most and people have really been getting into it only recently so that's not really a valid argument.

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Okay, I'll concede that point. Still, it's broken out further than most others from the past.....whether it's likely to stay there is debatable.

Brostep seems to have replaced that hardcore screamo music and seems to capture the same audience so until the next loudest thing comes out it looks pretty safe :-)

what the fuck does "practical application" have to do with music?

whut?

EVERY form of popular music pretty much started in the underground.

Jazz, blues, rock, metal, disco, hip hop, house, electro (classic), electro (robot noises)...

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whut?

EVERY form of popular music pretty much started in the underground.

Jazz, blues, rock, metal, disco, hip hop, house, electro (classic), electro (robot noises)...

That is exactly what I argued if you had read my previous posts you would know that.

Vague phrasing my bad. But by practical application I mean would this music make a good portion of the population feel good and want to dance? Probably not. Would I ever play it at a club/wedding/mitzvah/anything other than dubstep show? No.

Allow me to quote myself because you didn't bother to read up a few posts... SMH

yea, if you read my post after, you'd notice that I quote you by mistake at first.

here, i'll even quote it for you again :)

it's defintely a niche genre, but that niche is massive in some parts of the world (mainly middle america) and the producers are making a killing off the sound selling out stadiums, making 5-6 figures per gig...

Will it still be around 10 years from now? probably not - but the influence from the sound is likely going to be felt for decades to come even if the genre itself fades...

Perhaps I should have phrased it like this....it's amazing what the exclusion of one term can have to how your message is interpreted.......


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However, I'll still concede this point, as none of us know what the future will bring....

Electronic music? Yes. Dance music? I don't think so.

Still disagree.

electro begat synthpop which begat the majority of radio synth tunes in the 80s...

even modern electrohouse has broken into the mainstream a few years before dubstep and now every mainstream tune is basically a bad electro tune with bad auto-tuned vocals.

Hell, looking outside of america, Trance has been mainstream in Europe for decades getting tons of club and radio play... even for specific countries, drum n bass was on the radio in the UK the late 90s and early 00s including songs that broke into the top 10 of mainstream radio.

So no, I wouldn't say dubstep is the first or only underground electronic dance style to break into the "mainstream."

You do have a point about ElectroHouse. But, I just don't see the younger kids getting as amped about ElectroHouse as they do w' Dubstep.

As for EDM breaking out in Europe...they don't really count. America is the "mainstream" I was referring to.......everyone knows that Europeans have better taste in Music than the majority of Americans do ;)

you never said anything about younger kids getting amped - you said stuff about breaking into the mainstream which electro has already done the last couple years. Dubstep is influencing a few songs here and there but it's nowhere near as ubiquitous as the electrohouse sound in current pop and top40 music. So you can't really say that dubstep is the "first underground electronic dance music to break into the mainstream" especially since it hasn't technically "broken in" yet wheras electrohouse has firmly taken over the mainstream charts with guys like Guetta and the like.

Even guys like Chase and Status who are arguably the most successful mainstream guys that came from the dubstep scene actually started off in the drum n bass scene and didn't really jump on the bandwagon until after the sound had been firmly established in the UK. And other than Snoop Dogg Millionaire (which really didn't do that well chart-wise) most of the tracks they made that were successful weren't really all that dubstep-like... namely Rihanna's Rude Boy...



have you actually listened to trance? :\

What, you don't like Trance? I'll admit that most of it is shite, but there are a lot of really good choons out there....especially from the past (circa '95-'2000).

Soo, just so we're clear, you don't need to educate me when it comes to (electronic) Dance Music. I've been in the scene since before ('94) I ever even thought of mixing. I know about Chase & Status...I know that "More than A Lot" was the (first &) last album that they had that was worth a damn! All that shit they produced after winning the Mercury Award is garbage! I bought "No More Idols" from Beatport, and hated it so much that I deleted it from my computer!

Europeans do have better taste in Music than Americans. Unfortunately, most American's label P.Diddy, Katie Perry, Maroon 5, and Lady Gaga as "Good" Music! Whereas, you are correct, in Europe, genres like Dubstep, Drum n' Bass, Trance, House, Techno are all played on the radio.



I'll retract my previous statement, because this makes perfect sense, and I agree with you.

Lets keep the hating to Brostep and leave Trance out of this!!!

I HATE TRANCE :p

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dubstep is getting hammered on uk radio theyl drop even the nastiest shit on radio1 daytime, some people in this thread have just got tunnel hearing
all these sub genres nowadays is just bollox , everyone wanting to say they created something new, brostep/dubstep its the same thing , techno/intelligent techno ?made by a normal person versus made by someone whos done to much charlie and thinks his stuff avove all others? lol
you listen on alot of sites that sell music and the style genres are a load of crap i dont know who says what tunes are what style
cant say i hate any style of music they all have there merits but im not keen on pop music, it pisses me off when i hear a decent tune stolen from the edm music scene and raped for cash by the media

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Hahaha I actually like that song by Skrillex I gotta admit. Anything the guy makes with a house beast (125-130bpm) is sick but his slow brostep isn't for me.

DJs talking as if they are intellectual...you guys so funny.

My personal assistant Siri told me that dubstep is only cool if you are at a b-rank university or live in the UK. She knows everything.

Let me ask you cats a question.

Why is it that any track with a wobbly bassline is now considered "DUBSTEP"?

"Hey brah! This DUBSTEP is real cool!" and I am playing DRUMSTEP.

Sure. There are many similarities and differences between DUBSTEP and DRUMSTEP/DRUM&BASS, but its one of those things that has always bothered me.

For example: BASSNECTAR. He produces stuff that is pure 140bpm DUBSTEP, but he also produces 90BPM DRUMSTEP/DNB and 100-105bpm GLITCH HOP as well. Why are these styles lumped into DUBSTEP? I take it that most people are simply ignorant as fuck and just follow like sheep to anything with a big bassline. Everytime I go to DJ CITY or some blog and see these dudes GIGGING like little girls over a DRUMSTEP tune, It makes me ROFL!

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Carry on!

-1 ^^^^ for the long post that i expected something intelligent at the end of.

Thank you.

You know the funny thing is as much as I hate it I know my Tuesday night crowd digs it so I will drop one or two songs (literally one or two, that's all I can stand) and they love it. I think the thing with this genre is VERY small doses.

YES. At my last Top 40 gig, I played Skrillex's remix of "Cinema" and walked away for a few minutes. The peoples womped the fuck out to it... then back to the Top 40/Dance steez.

Yeah I played some Dubstep version of Party Rock Anthem last Tuesday and they went bonkers. Then right into hip-hop hood shit since it's got the 70bpm

I find it funny really because Im caught up between the world of TOP 40/POP and the EDM Undergrounds. The "real" dubsteppers hate pop remixes, yet you got guys like TOMBA & BORGORE, who are real big names in the Dubstep scene, getting commissioned to remix tunes like "Sexy & I Know It" into Dubstep. Ahhh, How it all works. Selling out isn't cool unless someone real popular does it right? The contradictions of the Dubstep scene.

Nope, I especially hate it when that occurs.....keep Pop outta' Dubstep!

What's drumstep?!

Anyway if someone likes a track, who cares what they think it is.

The big producers dont care. They just want to get that scrill just like everyone else.

That is as ignorant as people thinking 125bpm dance music is all techno.

But, so what. Do people have to know all the classifications that DJs care about when all they just want to do is dance, drink, and have fun?

Let me ask SIRI:

AUDIO1: "Hey SIRI: Do people have to know all the classifications that DJs care about when all they just want to do is dance, drink, and have fun?"

SIRI: "Simple answer to your generalized question: No."

That's a super clever reply.

Anyway, I'm still ignorant so I'll ask again. What's drumstep?

AUDIO1: "Hey SIRI: Is Dubstep Horrible?"

SIRI: "Absolutely."


Oh wow.... Having fun with my co-workers 4S.

The easiest way for me to define it is half-timed drum&bass.

Best example is Crissy Criss & Youngman "Kick Snare",

Here is the Dubstep original at 140bpm: www.youtube.com view
Here is their Drumstep VIP Remix at 174bpm: www.youtube.com view

Big basslines rule!

Another great example of an extremely popular crossover DRUMSTEP tune would be this one:

Rusko - Hold On (feat. Amber Coffman) (Sub Focus Remix) www.youtube.com view

Ah, yep. I'm a nerd and care about this classification stuff too.

That Rusko track - sure it's D&B tempo, but given the aesthetics it makes sense that a punter thinks of it as fast dubstep (that's if they even notice the tempo difference).

Quote from Tiesto "dubstep is great 1 track at a time"
What he told me after a show when i asked him about dropping the skrillex remix of cinema.
His openers for the show, Excision, Datsik & Downlink.

which goes with the obvious newer one......

You guys are so last year. you got to get on that newness drumporn.

I thought it was called pornstep

nope. its drumstep with porn sounds.

mind. blown.

Anyone remember when music was created with passion and skill instead of sitting in front of some expensive equipment adjusting "wobs", whales noises and static? Music is a form of expression most songs convey some message, they tell a story. Dubstep is nothing more than rhythmic synthesized "wobs" and whales noises, with some static and obnoxious bass tossed in.

^ The same thing could be said for nearly every form of Electronic Music...and that includes Hip Hop as well. There is Shit & Shine out there regardless of the genre.

My mom bought me a CD of Whale songs to help me relax before bedtime. So peaceful so expressive...

That's pretty much how I view most electronic music, though for some reason I really like Ratatat. I think the hype and teeny bopper popularity of it is one of the contributing factors.



Yet they aren't whale noises, they just sound like them, Sorry for not being clearer. I'm not sure if you agree with me, but dubstep really isn't that expressive or peaceful, to me atleast.

Then clearly you need to look a little deeper (pun intended).

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That Cooly G ep is so good.

I could go on for days w' Deep Dubstep & Future Garage. Those, along w' Microfunk (DnB) are my favorite genres at the moment. I must be getting old...haha!

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I don't listen to much dubstep, but I like what I hear coming out of the Low End Theory podcasts. Not everything they play is dubstep, but some of it is and it's decent.

I agree with this 100%, dubstep\brosteps dope, i really like the tracks.....but i dont see how people go to a dubstep show and listen to it for 4 hours straight, to me dubstep is the tabasco on the taco, build it up with some breaks or hiphop, house ect then WUBABABBW mix up the pot with the wobble for a song or to

I dunno..... CMOS, d.range, and I think Matterhorn showed up (can't remember) went to the Trouble and Bass anniversary in this pretty small club with Skream and Benga on stage. That was about 6 hours of straight dubstep with sprinkles of d&b and that's by far my favorite party i've been to. I guess it all depends on the crowd, atmosphere, who is playing..... of course this was right before middle america even knew of the name "dubstep"