Just read a tweet that states the 57 is a two channel mixer so no support for more decks? If you want three you need the sl3? I'm a little confused, anybody want to clarify what we can do with the 57, I was excited about using more than two decks, send it aux or use internal-- I don't know how-- somehow....

word up on this one

so i'll guess the first part of the manual will be null and void as of today. unless there's a mixer update too.

I second that... Whats up

you still get playlists, bridge, 2.0, new changeable screen layouts, album art....more than 2 channels aren't possible on usb 1.1

SL 2.0 has lots of new features for the TTM57 users as well.

Obviously the TTM57 SL is a two channel mixer - so you can only use two decks. Anything else does not make a lot of sense.

any futher word on this?

Indeed, and then there's the simple limitation that the TTM57 has USB 1.1 which does not have enough bandwidth for extra channels of audio.
It's also about the principle, SSL is a vinyl Emulation system. The TTM57 has no extra input as well to connect a CD or TT, so you can't control the extra virtual decks.

"But you can run it in internal mode"
True, but that is not the purpose of the software, this was implemented more as a "emergency" feature for worst case scenario's. Besides, If you want to run songs without having the ability to manipulate like in internal mode, you might as well run them on the sampler. That is a possibility and it will be almost as good as using a deck on "internal".

I think Serato made a good choice, just use the software/mixer what it's meant for, instead of trying to run half-ass solutions.
If you have a 2-channel mixer, expect to get 2 channels. Want 3? Get an SL-3. Want 4? Get the 68.
You're not gonna buy a Porsche Cayenne and modify it to do serious off-roading? No, you get a proper 4x4 from the start for that because that's what it's meant for, the Cayenne is just for speeding and showing off.

You bought a 2 channel scratch mixer, get over it.

Want three channels? Get a three channel mixer...

as nik said:

Well said.

Wouldn't mind having the ability to control 3 decks, even if it's 2 at a time with the 57. Maybe like a sort of 'hot swap' for your favorite scratch samples in the third deck.

on a side note, would it be at all possible for Rane/Serato to give us an extra 'group' on the 57 to control the Ableton bridge? will probably have to remap an existing group though.

apparently, everyones moaning about it has meant that usb 1.1 hardware now has been upgraded wirelessly so there IS enough bandwidth for a third deck.

THE 57 has USB 1.1 ?

REALLY??

THat just seems incredibly short-sighted since USB 2.0 has been around and a standard for quite a while. Just let me use a SL1 box and run it into the aux. It would be good enough for me, get a small cd player to control it. If the 57 is only 1.1, then I wouldn't expect to be able to run a third channel through the aux out.

I know you want to sell mixers Rane, but cmon. Do you always have to hold something back ? THere always seems to be a feature or functionality left out with new releases of equipment and software. I KNOW you can get SSL to work with both a 57 and a SL1 or SL2.

Just do it.

Please.

Yes... For us that broke bank on the 57...

Id love to be able to connect both an SL1 and 57....

Im sure there are reasons, but im sure they arent insurmountable.

think about how long the 57 has been about. at the time of design and release, there were no POSITIVES for putting usb 2.0 in the mixer.

sure, usb 2 is the standard now, but not then.

it wasnt as widely supported as it is now, some computers didnt have 2.0 compatibility when the 57 came out.

they went for the standard.

they also went for the option that would use the least cpu usage. at the time, 2.0 gave a considerable cpu usage hit over 1.1.

if they designed it today, it would be ridiculous if they put 1.1 in, hence the 68 having usb 2 (high speed).

however, you wouldnt expect to see usb 3 in the 68, would you?

im sure in five years time, we will have people wondering what they were playing at with the 68 when they didnt put usb 3.0 in there.

the next one should include instead of USB which i've had trouble with, have ethernet....faster and more secure. I would think something is possible to switch between the decks with the deck button or midi button but, if your in many clubs in america they only have 2 decks. most people that i've seen just edit the tracks so 2 decks can be made to sound like 3.

so now i have to sell my 57.......... lol kinda sucks

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I hate that car...

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I agree. The simple idea is just stupid to me. It's like you want to drive a "porsche" to show off, but you hate the inconvenience of a sportscar so you buy the car that has the Porsche Name but just looks like a VW Tourareg. I mean, if you gonna spend the dough on a Porsche, buy a PROPER Porsche, and if you want a 4x4, buy a proper one.

why doesn't Rane just add USB 2.0 to the 57??, it could of have been done a while ago and wouldn't cost much money to be added, the design of USB 1.1 its almost the same as 2.0 whats the problem RANE!! can't you upgrade it? You already have 2.0 on the SL3, theres not much development to be done, plus 2.0 would give better sound quality to the TTM57 and don't forget the posibilities it would give... C'mon RANE!!!

god the usb 2.0 argument pisses me off as rane has addressed it MANY TIMES.

AND

the sound quality argument pissed me off too as it has been addressed even more.

i'm just saying!! hahaha i just want to know why they didn't implemented before.. i don't think its that complicated. i know we don't really need it but would be good to just know its there and not some NOW obsolete technology.

2 or three decks? couldn´t care less. That mixer is a great piece of equipment, and I would still choose that over the 68, which looks like a spaceship that crashed into a PC from the mid 90´s (no pun intended)

Well this topic is way off, when I started it; it was to get information on how the whole 2, 3, and 4 channel output would work. Now we all understand this... Oh yes usb 2.0 would be nice... yes the 57 is great, the 68 is nice, and we can't say anything about its semblance --who has really seen in it-- so can't judge it simply on the photo''s we've seen.

The 68 its a great mixer just because it looks like its cluttered doesn't mean it is, everything its in the right place once you look up closely, i say this because i saw this mixer at namm and it looks awesome wish i had one right now!! i think its much better than the TTM57 but still the 57 its a great mixer with or without USB 2.0.

nah im wit bra the 68 got some nice features but ill never switch to it from my 57 not cuz i dont wanna spend da bread but its to big and ugly i never liked big azz mixers when the 57 came out i jumped on it cuz it remided me of the technics mixer (feature wise) i love dat mixer !!! only thing the the technics mixer got on the 57 is the look dats a hard azz looking mixer... the 68 is to big and ugly but dat is just what i think the next dj might want to make love to it lol

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I have seen it and it looks Wayyyyy better in person...remember the button are not always lit like the picture...its similar the vci 300 in style and functionality