give up on the whole video djing thing if the ddm4000 is in your plans no explaination needed a quck search of the forum will let you know and well its a BEHRINGER that should be your first clue....

total crap

had mine for 24 hours before i returned it for a Korg Zero4. You CAN NOT ma[[er the xfader for audio and midi at the same time. defeats the WHOLE purpose. I.M.O.

fellas, when you buy a Behringer product, you are buying garbage.

Look for a used Ecler Nuo 4, not the 4.0, if you want a decent priced good quality mixer you can use with VSL.

I know the company makes bottem end geat but watch some videos and reviews and they said it was actually not too bad and a bang for the buck.
I know its not a perfessional level mixer but just geting into video so though hum just to start off with.
But ya guess imma take that back n look out for a Ecler Nuo 4.
Used a safe way to go?

why waste your time and energy by gettin something you will either 1. have to replace or 2 doesnt work correctly ?

tru
lookking for the Ecler Nuo 4 now but everytime i look for it in guitarcenter or any place they always show the Ecler Nuo 4.0
Rebelguy earlyer said not to get the 4.0
Diffrence??

midi is the difference. For whatever reason they decided to NIX the Midi out of the 4.0 model which is in the original Nuo 4 model.. I have two of them. not selling them though.

are there any 2 channel battly style mixers with midi?
im pretty much wanting midi just to be able to control the audio and video with the crossfader.

just same and get the 57 Problem solved:) or you could control the video with a nano control and a regular mixeer

sorry just save.....

yea i know
i was planing on using a midi controler and my 56 but then i used the 57 at the radio station wth video and was like .... ya... i need this haha
so looking for a cheaper rount then the 57.. so was thinkin Ecler Nuo 4 but looking for some feedback

has been said many times, the behringer crossfader can do midi control or audio control but not both at the same time. totally useless for vsl.

anyone using the Ecler Nuo 4 ?
it can control both video and audio frm what i understand.
cant find really any youtube videos or nothin on it so

I used it with VDJ for years and it will work with Serato just fine.

it will control the audio and video with the crossfader right?
usually buy stuff from sweetwaters, guitarcetner or sam ash but nun of those stores have it.. anyone know where i can get it?

4.0

Fkin idiots.

I'm sure there will be many mixers this year with midi built in. I wouldn't be suprised to see a 300 mark.

Cheapest midi board on the market that I know of.

www.pssl.com!CknCrMYVhxk34lfowMMKQQ!/Ecler-NUO-4-Pro-4-Channel-DJ-Mixer-s

such harsh words

the Ecler Nuo 4 has midi not the Ecler Nuo 4.0
right?

don't buy it! I got a brand new one and broke after 6 months of use. Bad mixer forget all the good reviews!

thats why im leanin tords the ecler nuo 4....
the scratch live users totally shut that mxer down n imma go with them. not the reviews haha

I have had great luck with mine... I bought a second one as a back up because one of them was in one my club residencies. I NEVER had an issue with the mixer.

Only reason I am not using it right now is because I have the tt57sl mixer.

Dj Phat Al, your talking about the bahringer??

Korg Zero4 .... around the same price... you tubing these mixers (Korg Zero4, ecler nuo 4).
anyone have opinions.
remember.. need midi for vsl. and crosfader that controls audio plus video..

go with the Ecler!!!

gotta give me a reason Grial...

noo..... if you read what I wrote before.... I have two Nuo 4 mixers.

it's my preference I like Ecler, they are the rane of spain :) I would get the Evo 5 if i had the money. I don't like Korg Zero4 or BEHRINGER they are cheap mixers. Save your money and get the ttm57.

no way i can offord the 57.. love my 56 but dont like the 57 to much... (dont ask)
so 1 vote Ecler...

how much are you going to spend? like $700 right?

2 votes for Ecler :)

they both round 750

you can also get the pionner djm-700 used for that price.

does it have midi?

yes it does. I like it.

aight so used 700.. or the ecler or korg..

I would pick the 700 you also get effects

ya lookin around for a used one.

nice mixer :)

or get the best right off the bat. Pioneer DJM 800. Or even better, wait another few weeks and get a RANE mixer ;)

Somebody said before that the crossfader on the behringer can not do both video and audio at the same time. So that would make it pointless for video IMO.

ya i read that too so its out of the question
the 800 even used would be way over my budget and the ecler n korg are aalready way over my limites i have to start selling stuff to get the money.
how much would 4 blue ortofon concorde's go for???

a 57 can be had for about 3 gigs worth of cash. same with an 800. if you're planning on doing more than just DJing parties in your bedroom, you should be able to spring for either of these mixers and make your money back pretty quick.

yea workin on these gigs. am 16 years old. besides radio every, soo a lot of events 18 plus or 21 plus so hard for me. but workin my ass off to get em so it takes more time then for the rest of you! haha

I just sold my SL1 $450 and got my ttm57 for $1150 free shipping from unique_squared_inc with 3 year warranty. I only spent $700, that's what you are looking to spend.

thought about that.
but then when i travle to shows/ clubs that have a normal mixer (sometimes perminetly hooked up) you cant always just plug in the 57..
the sl 1 box is so much wasyer to bring around

damn baller. took me 23 mobile gigs to buy mine.

damn baller. took me 23 mobile gigs to buy mine.

DAMN, ain't takin me THAT long!
damn how much you charge a gig!!!??!!?!...

wow! what kind of gigs are you doing man?

lol

so new ecler nuo 4 would cost $700-$750 ish and have seen some used 57's for $800-$900..
what would you say

he makes more than i do at my gigs. he obviously didn't skim 100% of gig dollars to buy the gear.

u gots to pay rent/mortgage/electric/water/food/porn/hookers/drugs/etc

gotta point

audio e video croosfader mixer ddm4000
Watchwww.youtube.com

how did you do that!!!

Wow!! How did you modify your DDM4000 to work with both video and audio from the crossfader.

Uau! Como você alterar o seu DDM4000 para trabalhar com vídeo e áudio do crossfader.

I saw the video and i think the m-audio uno was the solution to the problem!

I have the m-audio uno with the ddm4000 and I am unable to use the fader for both audio and video. Maybe he modded the m-audio instead of the mixer.

we have a thread in the dj section. we had sombody translate it for us and it seems to be that he modded the mixer. We are waitng on a second video when he instructs us on how it was done. please come over to the dj side of the fourm and join the conversation.

www.scratchlive.net
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Guys, i think the crossfader is outputting MIDI ONLY, not controlling midi and audio.

The audio is being controlled via midi.

That's my guess.

"3:22 *** he his explaining that he opened the mixer and made some changes,
which just can be done if you had electronic knowledge . this he will explain in a future video.
3:45 he said that he will not tell us how its done because this video its just to show its possible."

video sl + ddm 4000 crossfader audio + video.
Watchwww.youtube.com

yeah,.... its been translated.

read my post just before yours.

hello djs.estou making a new video to post on you tub,
I anticipate more pra voceis, to make mixes audio and video with ddm 4000, and much simpler than voceis estao pensando.mais vout to remember is to have a basic understanding of electronics ok.

joshua carl dj.foi ok even though I did change in the mixer DDM4000 vcs liked.

galera esta sendo complicado a traduçao sou brazileiro ok.dj fafa.

galley is being complicated traduçao'm Brazilian ok.dj fafa.

can we get an interpreter up in this bitch?

But, basically it can be done with some krafty maneuvers inside of the mixer.
but, certainly not stock out of the box

+1


Although I don't recommend Behringer as a quality product (more of a value product) I will say they have one of the best warranties in the business. Fader doesn't work b/c you mucked it up trying to modify it? They will send you a brand new one!

When I worked in pro-audio, they would literally replace an entire 18" subwoofer cabinet because the $0.50 bi-amp switch was broken.

i believe he is saying that they are making another video and will post it later, na dthey will have pictures as well. but you must know your way around electronics.
Well that is what google translate stated. LOL LOL

Ok post vid link when finished.
thanks

DJ Fafa - how far are you with the new video????

*tracking*

so you gonna rip apart the ddm ruin your waranty just to get the crossfader to work......
with all the effort you need to get this thing to work wouldnt a ttm or other midi capable mixer be worth it.....

Thats What Im Saying.

and its a behriger for crying out loud...

I love that saying...reminds me of the 40s.

Thing is - if it's a simple mod then why not. I have stripped my DDM already because something sounded loose. It was just one of the metal rings that bind some wires which needed to be re-glued it to the base of the mixer and lubed the faders while I was in there. Theres nothing much to it.

...mine is over a year old so warranty is no longer valid. Plus if it ain't broken, no need to buy something new. If this mod breaks it well then...it would have repaid itself over and over already and I can move on to newer more exciting shit...THE RANE 6 maafaaking 8!!!!

+1

to each their own....if you can do it and it works good for you:)

How is every one? I been ready the whole thing about the DDM 4000 and I watch the video of DJ FAFA so I did it. Its a simple mod and you can change it back if you want to. I took me four hour to figure out what he did and 15min to do it, I also did a youtube video to show that it can be done. Its kind of dark, bad lighting but the point is made. But if you have the money get a better mixer I'm just broke. (Passion on a budget)

wow....

U guys been talkin about the DDM4000 for a long time...
Personally I have the Pioneer DJM-800 with the M-Audio MidiSport UNO as USB/MIDI interface and it works flawless....I been using SSL for 5yrs now and VSL for a year with the same set up...

Hope this get u uot of the 57 & DDM4000 and try my set up at your local DJ Store...

where's the youtube link?

Watchwww.youtube.com

found your video Cortney. Please post up an explanation.

Thanks, k

I hope he turns on the lights when he opens up the mixer.

Niiiiice!!!!




Please!!! :)

greetings bedroom DJs.. since spending so much time in your bedroom it's strange how u couldn't get ddm4000 crossfading video and audio simultaniously. Behringer is a piece of crap, but when cosidering digital components, there's not much difference between behringer, pioneer and rane... same wires and plastic included... and comparing to previous behringers, ddm4000 is a big step forward... it's just the name that decrases price.. I was a bit sceptic when had to work with one of tose before crowds of 2000, but after it all went with any bit problem, i started respecting that product... it's all made in china...

I take it that English is not your first language.

:) it's not even second.. bit in a hurry, but still far more better then your Croatian..

who cares!!

i just wanna know how A-spitta did it......
is that so hard! geeezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

+1...

+1

well - this is what he did (in theory) and if anyone knows their way around electronic stuff - holla with directions on how it's actually done.

it's actually pretty simple, feel terribly dumb for not having thought about it earlier...

basically confuse the mixer so that it sends the midi signal from one of the channels to the crossfader that way, the crossfader keeps doing audio and you assign the video crossfader to an unused channel of the mixer (of which you have diverted to the crossfader)

end result - you lose one fader on the mixer but your DDM4000 is instantly transformed into a DJM800 that will crossfade video and audio at the same time :) lol

huh..
confuse the mixer?
you confused me

I am getting a 57 but DAMN do we have to beg?

he'll be putting together the instructions soon...

I left this thread a while ago, and i saw that there has been some post on it. Damn i missed the video of somebody else doing it. Ok still waiting to see some instructions on it. I guess it ez, since somebody else figured it out.
So please spill the beans and let us know how it's done.
I thank you and the commmunity thnaks you in advance.

If anyone is interested in how A-Spitta did the mod on the ddm4000 hit me up I got the info from him yesterday and tried it out . it works like a charm. Basically as some others members have stated you are tricking the mixer to use one fader ( the crossfader )to drive two midi inputs on the mixer. by removing one volume fader and putting it in parallel with the cross fader you are able to control video and audio with the cross fader. I can give further instructions and pics outside of this forum

Has anyone seen the instructions on this matter just yet? Man ive been trying to figure out how to "confused the mixer" but aint having any luck.

tell it your a top paid dj that will confuse the hell outta it

^^^ LOL! you so crazy (In martin Lawrence voice)!

LOL LOL

hey mad21, can you just post it here, for us?

Your a funny guy Dj M Bezzle , but me and others really want to know how to do this so we can be up and running. Im in iIraq right now and really dont have that much time to get on the net and all of that type of stuff. So when I come on here to this section im trying to get tips not jokes. 15-30 minutes of net times sucks especcially when your waiting for something and its bullsh1t in the end. Dont want to sound hostile but can someone please put up the instructions on this matter. Thanks in advance

Sorry for the delay guys I was kinda busy all yesterday. go to this link on youtube Watchwww.youtube.com It is kinda cheesy but I dindnt have much time to put it together. If you don't know about electronics i would not suggest opening your mixer, and if you are still under warranty you will void your warranty. Good luck

your video is set to private. Please make it public. Thanks! You da man!

videos set to private

yes please!

:)

I just made the change on youtube

k links public now.......hey mad21 is there any way you can post a vid with the hack in action before i got soldering wires to my mixer lol

@Mad / Cortney

Does midi still work on the corresponding channel i.e. the kill buttons / EQ knobs etc?

I use these for Cue points and wouldn't want to loose it. Logic says they should still work but I just wanna confirm.

Come M.bezzle. I know u can do it. Be a man, do the right thing!

Every midi button will still work on the channel that you decide to use the only thing that you will loose is the volume fader

good stuff.

I'm going to do it tonight...

Thanks You da man.
BIG SHOUTS to MAD21

Many thanks mad21!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

+1

Thanks man!!

*You the man!!!*

removed bah :-/

Greeting Earthlings

I cant get on youtube do to the fact that im in Iraq and on this Cpu youtube is black listed. So does that vid link have the instructions on how to do it. If so can sombody post that stuff up

Word, the video was taken down.
i dont know why

if ya need the vid.

rapidshare.com

thanks budy love

:)
Ive learned better be fast about downloading these things before they are long gone..

BTW u can also put a Innofader in this mixer.

Shit man if you already have the mixer, y not....it will at least you into the video game for 1/3 of the price. Now you won't be driving a Benz....but Kia's do run.

I agree,
this is the only missing link to my set up, going to try it. But i have never soldered anything in my life, but i'm going to try. worse case is that i won't have a line fader, but i can put in a info fader if it all goes south.

I did mine a couple of days ago and it was really easy. The only issue i had was removing the fader from the circuit board. I also found that it is better to use the wire that comes in a cat5 cable. They are really thin and gold plated. I really didn't like leaving the channel without a fader and decided to use hot glue to put it back in place without connecting it.

Polanka,

now what did you do to yours, if you dont mind sharing with me?

I used Mad21's video instructions to make my ddm4000 fader to control both audio and video.

Cool, did every thing go as plan

The fader works great!!! I tested it this weekend and had no issues with it. Everything went as planned!!

By cat5 you talking about an ethernet cable right?

Yep ethernet cable. The reason I used that cable is because its really thin and easy to bend. Its also color coded to help with connecting things to the right place. What i did was cut open a cat 5 cable and took out 3 strans of cable, two of them the same color and one with a different color. I used the the same color strands to connect the top connection points of the fader and the other for the bottom right connection point of the fader. Like i said before the hardest part was removing the fader from the mainboard. If I had to do it again I would of just clipped the fader connection points from under the fader instead of removing them from the mainboard. I just wanted to save the fader just in case i wanted to put things back the way they were. But now that i know this works I wouldn't waist time trying to remove it properly.

is there anyway to use that line fader as a normal audio line if you did the mod & replaced the fader back to original position??

I think if u were to leave it, yes it would work but if u were to use it along with the midi xfade it wouldn't work right. Unless u used it for just audio. But that's just a guess.

I was just thinking if im not using it for midi just audio.
but when i want to use it for midi i could then use it!

hummm hope that made sence

I will test it tonight just with audio to see if it works.

I wanted to try this modd with my Behringer DDM.... however i already switched out my old crossfader to the innofader... anyone try to do this same mod.. but with the innofader instead of the original crossfader...

i would contact them. they would know better then anyone. the fader itself might not be capable of carrying the midi signal. But thats a guess.

why spend $400 on a mixer that's crap to have to open it up and modify it when you can just save up and buy a real piece of equipment?

ITS A BEHRINGER!

ive heard that the innofade can be used to carry a MIDI signal

did you ask why someone would modify a $400 mixer when they could just buy a $1500 instead.......i think you answered your own question there, not all of us can affotd a 57

+1
to be honest i could afford a 57, but my wife would kill me, if i came in with a 57LOL LOL
we are in the process of trying to buy a house. I was able to get the MBP under the wire so to speak which set me back a few stacks. so it's better to spend 4 now, mod the mixer, get the house,do some gigs, then maybe get the 57 down the road.

That's just a grown man thing, or just a good husband, who doesn't want to be in the dog house thing. LOL LOL. but it's all good. the ddm4000 is just going to be for in the house video mixing, still need more items to make it work for mobile gigs( good projector, screen, etc..) so i'm just stocking up on videos just for my own personal enjoyment. so $400 is a good entry price to mess around with.

Hey

i just did the modification and man that didnt work. when I moved the crossfader deck lights dimmed out, when moved to one side i couldnt control the kill switches and all. Man what did i do wrong. Help

thats why i asked him to post a vid of the mod working lol

Oh so yo must have had the same thing happen to you then, huh

nope i dont even own that mixer, and i dont plan on buyin it till i see that this mod works lol, hopefully ill be able to afford a 57 before this gets proven lol

I follwed the video all the way and got thsi bs to happen to me

Hey guys,

It really does work. I had the same problem at first because I did not remove the volume fader. You have to remove the volume fader in order for this mod to work.

I can post a video if you need to see it to believe.

Yeh i left the fader in thinking it wold be ok. So i have to take out the fader and put nothing in its place huh?

Please post so i can see what yours looks like and that i works. i used Fader 3 on the mixer to do the mod

Yep. What I did was i clipped the fader off the mainboard because its a hassle to remove the solder of the connection points. Trust me once your done with this mod you will never want to put that fader back on. I recommend removing the 4th channel because there is more space to work when soldering. I hated putting the mixer back with a missing fader, so what i did was bent the connectors on the bottom of the fader towards the fader and glued the fader in place with hot glue. I put everything back together and it looks like nothings ever been modified. I used Cat5 ethernet cable for the soldering.

Let me see if I can put a video together. I know how you feel! When it did not work at first for me I thought I messed up my mixer. So don't worry, take your time and do it right.

I used cat 5 wire also but put it on the 3rd channel. the channell doesnt matter but i want this to work

Ok then all you have to do is remove that channel.

use small clippers to clip the connection points. Start with the two top connectors then bend the fader up so that you can reach the four bottom connectors.

If i clip the fader clips do i still have to Mess with the Solder connection at all?

Nope. once your remove the fader your all set. You did all the work already.

I know you will be very happy once its done. Trust me it will work.

I did all the work already and now im waiting for the results. can yo post yours up

I can't right now. I'm at work.

I will post a video as soon as I get home.

Cool, thanks for that.

DJ Gyant, Let me know how things work out.

I will. Im going to do that 2morrow and go from there. You say that i have to the whole fader out not just cut the tips on it.

Yes you have to take it off the mainboard. What i meant was cut the connections between the main board and the volume fader. My next test will be doing this mod with a innofader.

Im going to just take it off the board 1st then see how it works. When i do it again Ill post what happens

I did the mod key thing remove the fader or yes the lights will blink dim and crap. If u take it off it works perfectly.

or due the glu thing fader just has to be disconected

There is no need to remove the fader if you know what you are doing if you guys need help let me know. I rushed to put my first video together to help out the forum. If you are an electronics tech or anything close to it you will be able to do the mod without removing the fader. The mod works if you are not experienced in electronics as I said before I posted the video, do not attempt it.

Hey thanks again mad21 for the video!!! I am having so much fun with my dm4000 mod. I am going to try to make this mod work with an innofader.

Man too late for that info MAD 21. if it possiable for you to put that video back out so i can check it out. I got it work but now my crossfader goes in reverse for video. Did i do something wrong with this.

All you have to do now is when you assign the crossfader in the midi section hit tab on your keyboard.

Congrats DJ Gyant!!! Hope you enjoy the mod as much as i'm enjoying it!

Thanks again for the info mad21!!

You Guys are phucking great. ow im going to see if i can get this shit mapped right and get on the videos

Congrats Gyant have fun with your new mixer

let me know how it works out..
i got the innofader also & im damm near no way close to bieng a electronics tech so ill let yall be guinea pigs first...lol

thanks agian for the info agian mad21. much props

has anyone found out if you can still use your line for just audio still after the mod. but not pulling the fader out..?? being in audio mode not midi?

with the INO would be very dope. I would def like try it out. I haven't even tried a INO period.

HAHA

So POLANKA.... for the sake of BUDDYLOVE and myself.. you should try to do it with the innofader.. cuz we both have it ... and im like a blind kid walkin down the stairs with this shit... so lemme know when u try it... and see if it works... if not i think i might have to downgrade back to the Original Behringer Fader

he might not have it. plus aren't the new ones a little different?

I dont have an innofader, but I dont see any reason why it shouldnt work with the mod. If you guys would like to know how to make the mod work and be able to use re-install and used the volume fader let me know. I solved that problem last week. It will only cost you around $3 bucks.

Mad 21 Im waiting to hear how to make all of that work. the Mixer just looks Slow without that channel being there.

i wanna know!!!!! :)

plus got a vid on that. :)

plus a vid with it in action. :)

thanks.

Id like to add: Anyone who decides to use a Behringer mixer for anything besides a paper weight is not very smart, and I dont mean to insult anyone but seriously come on, theres a reason why these mixers are hella cheap in price...because the guts inside the B mixers are GARBAGE...........

BuddyLove can you tell me where I can view that video? that would be a great help you know.

No dis respect to you Milz, when you say guts inside do you have a clue or know about the electronics inside the ddm4000 Rane 57 or any other mixer, (guts lol) do you know the specifications for the 4000 or the 57. Do your home work and then comment on the 4000.

DJ Buddylove I havent made a video yet, I am heading out of town for a few days. when I make it back I will try to put one together.

Gents, I got it to work with my Innofader... I'm taking it apart again now to take some pics... will post up when i'm done.

I sold pro audio gear for many years..... Behringer is all the same. CHEAAAP crap built in their "mini-city factory" in China. Every piece of equipment is a cheap knock-off of a similar brand name product. Mixers, speakers, EQs, cross overs, effects units, you name it. Signal to noise is horrible, faders are all horrible, gain pots are noisy and perform terribly, all the components (guts) are the cheapest available version....

But, for the price, it works. You get what you pay for with Behringer, literally. Every time.

The DDM-4000 works, it has some cool features, but please don't ever compare to a Pioneer or Rane. If you think they sound comparable, you are probably using Behringer speakers.

i dont have a vid..

i was asking mad21 to post one..

i tooooooo scuuuuuurd to do the mod yet..

i understand what your saying..
but for 350 bucks this thing has worked like a charm fo me fo over 2 years w/ no prob..

if i could afford a rane/pio i would jump on it..
but cant..

I agree that behringer's other mixers are crap but the DDM4000 has been nothing but pleasure for me. I'm currently saving for a 57 but I'm still gonna keep my DDM4000 as a backup. I just love it.

There have been countless occasions where I used my DDM4000 instead of Pioneer DJM 600's... I just seen so many pioneers in bad condition - is it the product or how it's been treated? Whatever the reason, seen too many...

exactly.... I'm not saying don't buy it. Behringer is a great price point product. It mixes, it has midi, it has a cool dual fx engine.... There are just some people that claim it it to be an "awesome" mixer, when it is average at best.

For the price, it is tough to beat, I'll give it that.

it is an awsome mixer.......for the money. Im thinkin bout pickin one up from ebay for the cheap to use until i can afford a 57 because im sick of using a korg kontrol to control my video fader seperate from the music. I may wait for those vestax joints to drop, though

DDM4000 crossfader modification with the innofader/Standard fader

Ok so here is my contribution. I will start from the beginning is there is anyone here who missed the first video uploaded…

Overview:
The DDM4000 cannot process midi and audio at the same time by default. So with the help of DJ Fafa, A-spitter & Mad21 – this is now possible.
As stated above, one of the volume (up/line) faders need to be routed to the cross fader & set to send midi.

Caution: Please do not try this if you are not experienced with working with PCB’s/electronics.

Step 1:
Remove the cross fader, all fader knobs and outer screws.

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Step 2:
Lift the board and unplug all cables\ribbons between the base the and board.

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Step 3:
Remove all screws holding the faceplate to the PCB.

Step 4:
De-solder one of your line faders from the board. Please use a de-soldering iron or pump to do it properly.

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Step 5:
Solder 3 wires to the top points and bottom right point…

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Step 6:
I joined extension wires to the wires going from the board to the crossfader as I didn’t want to solder anything to my innofader adapter board.

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Step 7:
Join\solder the wires in the following config:
Top Left (Line fader) to Black right pin (outer)
Top Right (line fader) to RED left pin (Outer)
Bottom Right (Line fader) to Black pin (middle)

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Insulate your joins and put everything back together.

Here is a video of me using it after the mod.

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Good luck!!

a club owned a behringer mixer, told me to work with it. I had to turn the master volume, channel volume and eq's all the way up to achive the same audio output as half on a similar pioneer mixer. thats all it took for me to understand that these mixers were cheaply made and garbage imo.

Where do you guys think that you mac laptops are made (not in America) lol. they are all made in China as well as the Iphone and the list goes on and on

To each his own when it comes to mixers I will not dwell on that for long the 57 has .005 Thd and the ddm4000 has .009 Thd for those that would like to know. Everyone is not on the same level when it comes to purchasing gear. so lets just move on to a different subject

so for sure.....you need to take out the 3rd channel? I thought I remember seeing above that you didn't need to.

yea!!! lets move on!!
to each there own.

what the hell is .005 / .009 Thd?

im a moron :)

Thanks sticky K for the info!
im sure not gonna try this mod (ill fuck shit up)
im gonna take mine to a pro for moding.

if anyone wants the og mad21 mod video
here!!
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This makes me wanna get into video mixing. haha.

I don't know, I've always used vestax at home, but traveled with a Behringer because clubs beat my equipment up. It worked fine for me for analog mixing. Not the nicest.

I hear American Audio has a sweet mixer out there too.

If you want to DVJ, you'll want a separate midi controller for blending.

is there a difference if I use the INNOFADER vs the standard crossfader that comes standard with the mixer?

Some of the pictures are blurry bro, kinda hard to follow the wires where they go

depends how much u want to scratch :-)

One thing i noticed with the mod. Sometimes when you bring the fader all the way to the left or right, the video doesn't finish transiting. SO thats not a good thing.

Sorry man, best I could do. I will try to create a diagram showing how I wired mine.




Does the on-screen fader take time to catch up to the crossfader? I noticed this happening on mine when trying to figure which wires to join.

no doesn't catch up. you have to move the fader back to the other deck & back again. Sometimes a couple times for it fully transition.

On DJ FAFA's youtube video that dude didn't remove any faders on the mixer at all and he does the demo without problems, of course the dude is brazilian maybe doesn't understand english and he doesn't return emails on how to do this stuff, I tried doing mine but I noticed that after removing the fader on the left side the FULL FREQ yellow LED doesn't turn on nor the HIGH, however the MID and LOW are fine

Last but not least my crossfader works inverted GRRRR!!! CRAP!!!

any ideas?

This will fix the inverted crossfader.

Enjoy!

will this eliminate going to the video sl menu and switching to invert crossfader option?

has anyone seen DJ FAFA's from Brazil do the demo if you pay close attention at the video you'll notice he has all channels in the mixer he didn't sacrifice any of them... can anyone confirm that?

I seriously doubt he was able to do it without taking out one of the faders. I removed my fader from my main board but used hot glue to put the fader in place so that it would look like all my faders are still there. I think DJ FAFA might have done something similar.

It wont eliminate that option.

So you're saying he made it look like its there but is not in other words a dummy fader

Thats right.

well I'm going to comment on my first failure I experienced while using Video SL... Everyone knows that Macbook Pro's only have 2 USB ports, well I went ahead and bought one of those unpowered 1 to 4 USB extensions so I went ahead and connected my serato box and my midi controller into that piece of crap...

when all of the sudden right in the middle of my set shit hit the fan, the audio went out and the circles wouldn't respond anymore, of course I unplugged it and plugged it back in and it worked for another 15 minutes before it went out again, so at the time I didn't know it was because it drew a lot of power from the USB port of my Mac... meanwhile some drunk idiots shouted THE DJ SUCKS or they would BOO me which made me feel like getting off the booth and beat the shit out of them cuz first of all they have no freakin idea what the hell is going on, I kept my cool unplugged both wires and decided to move on with serato box plugged directly into my Mac leaving the MIDI out of the question, from that point on it never went out...

Then I figured then it was the USB, so I went ahead bought a "POWERED" USB Hub and I'm planning to return in full force to make up for what happened last week... I learned from my mistake and now I'm ready for Round 2

I never thought for one second that a 5 dollar piece of crap from eBay would almost ruin my gig.

Cheers!

never plus your box into a hub, plug the box into the acutual port and plug any midi controllers harddrives ect into the hub

*plug

well I already bought a powered usb Hub so it wouldn't matter anyways now right? cuz there's a difference using a powered hub vs a usb splitter that isnt powered which is what I previously used

+1

dont ever, ever, ever plug your serato iunterface into any hub powerd or not..
your just asking for trouble.

only use USB Hubs powerd or not for hard drives, midi controllers ect....

Not to be stubborn or anything but I didn't know this was a rule of thumb for the SL1 or SL3... So powered hub or not the box will always go out? no matter what?

hummmmmmmmmmmm mabey not go out per say
but wont work properly

Got it... first time I hear that the box cannot be plugged into a hub powered or not

Thanks

SL1 / SL3
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bummer! I guess I missed that on the FAQ

Thanks BuddyLove

I just want to say one thing , i saw the changes that you guys did but for those who want to use the 4 lines of the mixer it will not work .
Is more easyer behringer release a firmware to fix this problem than do the changes only for 2 channels .

Let me know if i am wrong .

How bout just dont buy a shitty behringer save up and get eal equipment

lol , yeah sometimes is what theydeserv .
Resuming , i sended an email to behringer support team to ask if it is possible to they make a firmware to be updated by midi interface with these buttons deactivated from midi control .
Red circles = not used in midi command
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For those who have also behringer please help me sending the same situation to technical support of behringer . 1 is nothing but many is important

i agree with you pedropt... a firmware update would be a good start. If that is possible

Can't figure for the hell of it why they would not want the audio to work. Must have been deliberate on their part.

@djnak - unfortunately not all of us can afford to get real equipment no matter how hard we save up. Sure the 57 would be ideal none of this fuss.

I live in Jamaica - can only buy what we can afford. US361 for the behringer (shipping to jamaica) CIF (cost + insurance + shipping) duties 20% of CIF GCT = 17.5% of CIF landing = 22% = $400US
so basically 800US for the behringer to get it to Jamaica (price pretty much doubled)

Now imagine the 57s for 1500US - so paying after taxes and shipping (at least US$2,600 or more).

shitty perhaps but necessary

I hear what your saying but behringer... STILL SUCKS lol

can someone help me pls... did the mod and the audio is still not fading ..what am i doing wrong????

is there something i have to do in the midi settings as well??????????


please someone.....