I just handled my first gig with my new DDM-4000. It seems like a low-budget Pioneer DJM series but it has some seriously sick features! First off, in midi mode, u can control any and all functions from SSL! I set all my loops fuctions in the sampler section, and my cue points in the EQ buttons of tracks 1 and 4. Scroll through library, and crates with Sampler volume analog knob! A great buy with a sub out! Anyone think otherwise? U should try it out..i paid 349.00 for it with a 50$ Sam Ash coupon! U do have to buy the M-Audio Uno for 20$ to connect to your mac or pc. but it is really worth it. Its kinda old news but in these economic hardships, and dj-s poppin up on every corner, it is a great buy, aside from the rane TTM 57sl. The crossfader seems like it would suck untill u use it. It really is butter.

But its Behringer....nuff said.

I think it is great for a bedroom setup, But this thing would never hold up in a club environment or mobile work where its getting banged around, there is a reason it's $350 :)

Just wanted to add a few points on this: I also own the DDM4000 and have enjoyed it very much. When I was researching mixers, at first I almost spent the big bucks on the Pioneer 800 and then came across the DDM4000 and noticed it's comparable features. I know people look at the brand name and turn their heads really quickly, but Behringer REALLY did their homework on this mixer! Unless you've USED it or TRIED it, you'll never really get the satisfaction of just how awesome this mixer is. At the time of purchase I was using M-Audio Torq and the midi controls were awesome with the program.
After converting to Serato, because I find Serato better for my EXTERNAL playing style, I also purchased the TTM57. I simply chose the TTM57 at first because : 1). It already had SSL already built-in and 2). I was told the DDM4000 wouldn't work with SSL as a midi device. (which obviously was WRONG as hell, but, oh well)
As far as it being able to withstand club playing and/or mobile gigging, hell, I'm always amazed at some of you guys LACK OF care for the more expensive equipment that you have now. I've owned equipment for years and never have had knobs fall off, or faders break, or my stuff just fall apart as a lot of you have acknowledged. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that I still have my boxes and packing material for just about all my gear or maybe it has to do with the fact that I don't THROW my gear around just because I'm in a hurry at times.
Yes, I opted to buy a more expensive mixer, but NOT just because of name Brand and definitely not before giving a lower priced one a try. I mean ,come on,.. how many so-called "TOP END" mixers are even gonna be near the $350 price of any lower name brand mixer?
I'm very happy DjLuke wrote this thread, because now I can take my 8month old DDM4000 that I had put away, and start using it again with Serato...damnn..only problem is...now I have to purchase a SL3 interface because my SSL is built into my TTM57. (bummer :(
Maybe Serato ought to look into sending a disc with the TTM57 as well, I mean, damnn it's not like I didn't pay enough for one! LOL!

maybe if dj rumor would do more research he wouldn't be in the position to have to drop $ on a SL-3

Notourious, maybe I've missed something, but I did call Rane and question them on this and they told me there was no way of using SSL without the TTM57 at this point. So maybe I was misinformed or mislead but that's the info that I have. If you know anything that would help, please post or pm me with it. I would appreciate it.

I own an SL-1 and a TTM-57, I started with a SL-1 b/c I have a perfectly good TTm-56, then I got a TTM-57, I love both mixers, but I also copped an Allen & Heath Xone mixer, and I use all 3 for different things. My point was that when you copped the 57 you should have looked into getting an SL-1 or Sl-3 at the time, you would not have had to buy the mixer if you already had one.

Ohhhh! Ok..I feel ya on that..and yes you have a valid point! My thing is, that now that I DO have it, I just wished Serato was more of an "open source" type program as many others are. Especially after you've drooped $1500 with them.
But it's just another Life's Lesson learned , for me I guess. Maybe I'll pick up a cheap SL3 on Ebay or something one day. Thanks for your viewpoint though, Notourious.

Why do you need an SL-3? The sound quality of the Behringer does not warrant getting it. You will be fine with an SL-1.

If you want to use the Behringer mixer at home then you can use the 57 as your box. Hook up your turntables to the 57. Run the Rane aux outputs to channel 1 line in on the Behringer. Get a 1/4" stereo to dual RCA cable and output your headphone jack to line 2 on the Behringer. Raise the level of channel 1 on the 57 so that it output to the Behringer. Pan your headphone cue to channel 2 on the 57 and turn up the headphone gain so that it outputs to the Behringer. Done and done.

ARE YOU CRAZYY! Do you know how terrible "reproduced sound" is gonna sound?? I'm not THAT desperate bruh! Like I said...I'd just wait to find a deal on either a SL3 or SL1 and get back to using my DDM4000 as a spare and bedroom mixer. Dont forget,... I DID spend $1500 on a TTM57...so you can bet ..IT'S GONNA GET USED!

LOL!..."reproduced sound"........SMDH!

Um...why call me crazy? You're the one that's contemplating bringing out the Behringer to use over the 57 and also buying a new Serato interface just so you can use that mixer.

FYI the hookup I detailed sounds perfectly fine. I have seen it done at quite a few clubs when the DJ showed up with his mixer but couldn't remove the house mixer.

NEVER stated I wanted to use the TTM57 WITH the Behringer...In fact. I admitted that the ONLY possible solution for me at this stage, was to get a separate interface whether it be the SL1 or 3 to play with my Beriinger.


The "Crazy" part, I meant sarcastically, sorry wasn't trying to personally attack or insult you. Please,let's not mess up this member's thread by bickering back & forth. I'll concede to any ideas if it will help us move on. My apologies, DJLUKE.

I cant say i have used it a ton..but it really is a good mixer. Behringer blows goat on a bunch of their equipment, but! They really kicked anus on this piece. Like homie said, u have to try to out to really appreciate the quality of it. It is very user friendly in midi mode. plus I tried out the 57sl at Sam Ash and thought all Im buying is the name! RANE! Yes, o dp also take extreme care of my equpiment...plus since taking on being a full time Dj, I really need to have my gear in tip top shape. I spend alot of time rubbing my 1210's and ddm with a diaper! Side note: anybody know of some good full range dj speakers that have great punchy low end for a descent price?

If SLL was open source, people would be able to easily modify it so that it didn't require the hardware, therefore making it pointless to buy the sl1, sl3 and ttm7 and therefore those products as well as SSL would not exist.

Just get some Behringers and you will have a matching system. lol

Hah! Your right! Seriously though, i hear Behringer Speakers blow! Aside from the DDm i would never buy Behringer anything. Not even if they made toilet paper!

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Ive had mine for a year 1/2 and zero problems so far!! ZERO!!

QSC K Series FTMFW!


as for the DDM-4000, give me a midi / audio x-fader and i'm sold.

on the other hand, i'm falling in love more and more with the ecler evo4 :drool:

Got my 4000 a little over a year ago..have done around 150 gigs with it...at least 4-5 hours at a time. Had zero problems as well...

I did install the Innofader however...highly recommended!!!!

No, it's not a $1000.00 mixer...but it sure as hell performs like one!

same here!!!

heres a couple of photos of my set up..
included is my ddm 4000 w/ innofada :)
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^^ you have waaaaaaaaay to much stuff.. you should donate some vinyl.. ;)

BTW - is there any way to save a preset that also saves your effect info like the channels and parameters? I have a saved preset but everytime I load it, I still have to manually adjust the effects section and turn the crossfader on and ish!

BuddyLove yor set-up is beautiful

*Being truly Humble*
Thanks man,
ive put alot of time & $$ into this little bit i have.
im happy but ive seen more beautiful..still trying to get there

I want a new mixer and the ddm4000 does seem good. i tried it and was pleased with the feel and everything, but the effects seemes far too complicated to use on the fly. it would take me a while to get fluent with them to just bang out some nice effects.

the effects are really easy once you get use to them..

yeah? prob. i dont know if you know, but theres a optical faded behringer made for that mixer now to compete with the innofader. and its only $50

yea i know!
i had my innofader before it came out..
id stock with the innofader..

great product, reviews, track record, customer service & emarx a really cool dude!

for sure. well its on the top of my list right now, but i procrastinate a lot.....

i do a lot of: "well,....i could do this.... "and instead smoke a bowl and have a mix with what i have.

@Wazo the Infinium fader has been out for 7 years just recently they're trying to make it more compatible with other mixers. It's one of those cases of you get what you pay for, and it could have been a serious competitor if they actually did something to make it a good scratch fader. The open optical design means it will fail when exposed to dust long-term. It looks like a Rane Magnetic but made far more cheaply so it's prone to mechanical failure. And my experience with the tension adjust and feel has always been poor. One sample I have completely locked up and another I have on a d.2 is grindy and stiff. And it got this way after 2 years in storage with virtually no use.

@BuddyLove thx :) :) how did you get an Innofader before it came out?

i ment i had the innofader before this new behringer x1 optical fader & ill stick with the innofader.

haha

ahh i see now.

I also pick up this mixer and it seems to be working great. Sometimes it locks up and im not sure if its something im doing or the mixer. and my screen fade in and out with the beat. im thinking about swapping it out. anyone else run into this problem?

i cant seem to bring myself to like behringer. their stuff always feels so cheap and plastic-y

I tried to show this off. Using my camera phone.

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are you talking about the bpm diplay blinking..
if so thats normal..its suppose to be like that

Are you using more than one outlet? Looks like the current is dippping everytime the bass hits. Also are you using an amp or studio moniters?

One of the best features with this mixer is you can "Sync Ableton via midi clock", once you have the right audio interface.

"Sync not just trigger"

Droppin an update on this mixer. Got it swapped out and I'm now in love with it. Its not a 800 or a 57sl but for the build quality this thing has held up. I dropped in that optical fader and it cut super sharp. almost to sharp. but there are tons of adjustments to it. and with midi i have everything mapped. don't need dicers because of this. for the price you can't beat it.

Any word on how t do the midi/audio combination mod...? Thinking bout buyin a couple and modding them, then selling them. Not everyone can afford a 57 or 62. Figured it'd b a good opportunity to make a couple bucks .

Here's a video guide...www.youtube.com view

This guy said he used the sampler volume knob instead of a channel fader, works the same, and IMO, would be better as you won't loose a channel then...

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Cool... Thanx Konix

DDM4000 users. if you DO NOT use the XLR left and right outputs on the mixer and want to use the SUB XLR out, will the SUB work correctly... meaning... will the separation of the XLR only work? OK here is what i have been trying to do. Use the SUB XLR out strictly for low pass out to a powered sub. But my sub is not receiving signal, what i am doing is using the RCAs OUTPUT 1 and 2. The XLRs are not being used at all.

any response would be appreciated.