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Itch 2.0 Completion Status?
DJ Xio
2:57 PM 19 October 2009
It would be great if moderators or someone on the Serato Team would come out publicly with a completion status of itch 2.0. Say 80%, 90%, 100 % - Testing Phase...
This would be a good reference, to the actual release dates of the XONE DX or the VFX, since I'm sure both of them wont' release until itch 2.0 has been completed and fully tested. UNLESS, they ship them out with 1.4, until 2.0 gets approved as ready for manufacturing.
Either way, status updates wouldn't hurt anyone... It would only give us a more accurate timeline towards the release of upcoming Itch products.
Thanks for the time, hope to hear from team members soon... REAL SOON.... ;)
This would be a good reference, to the actual release dates of the XONE DX or the VFX, since I'm sure both of them wont' release until itch 2.0 has been completed and fully tested. UNLESS, they ship them out with 1.4, until 2.0 gets approved as ready for manufacturing.
Either way, status updates wouldn't hurt anyone... It would only give us a more accurate timeline towards the release of upcoming Itch products.
Thanks for the time, hope to hear from team members soon... REAL SOON.... ;)
kraal
3:05 PM 19 October 2009
true i think atleast a realease date calander would be nice. but i am think now if these unit are shipping with 1.? maybe we can get a shipping date from the hardware companies?
Maskrider
3:08 PM 19 October 2009
They have been really quite about it for the same reason that they don't wanna be bugged about it.
BadBoyChubs
3:09 PM 19 October 2009
Sorry to hurt ur feelings but I Think they will not asnwer. If they do asnwer it will be probably they next week after the asnwer
casket hands
6:34 PM 19 October 2009
I think it would be funny for a mod to come in here and say "right on schedule" just to further whip you guys into a frenzy.
BadBoyChubs
6:56 PM 19 October 2009
to make life easy. The release date is 31st December " Happy New Year" lolol
iiexist
9:00 PM 19 October 2009
judging from pssl.. availability of the nsfx and vfx1 begins tomorrow.
I hope to hear SOMETHING tomorrow.
sales rep informed me everything is still on schedule. they only ordered 21 vfx units.
I hope to hear SOMETHING tomorrow.
sales rep informed me everything is still on schedule. they only ordered 21 vfx units.
czar
9:57 PM 19 October 2009
Maybe the reason why noone's talking is because they are still thinking about naming the release. 2.0 vs 1.4. I think they could do 1.4 and leave the 2 ver. for a mayor upgrade like video mixing? XF seem not so big right now.. I think Itch 2 right now could be looked at less positively kinda like "already Itch 2!?" Imagine if they were to upgrade the name to 3,4,5.. every time they added something... (maybe not...?)
djcerla
12:47 AM 20 October 2009
1.4... 2.0...
When the FX units will be shipped, they'll come with a suitable ITCH version, don't worry.
2.0 will obvioulsy be a major rewrite from the ground up (as the name implies: SSL is still at version 1.X), and very likely the first release sporting the Ableton code.
January is behind the corner ;-)
When the FX units will be shipped, they'll come with a suitable ITCH version, don't worry.
2.0 will obvioulsy be a major rewrite from the ground up (as the name implies: SSL is still at version 1.X), and very likely the first release sporting the Ableton code.
January is behind the corner ;-)
MusicDan
5:20 AM 20 October 2009
That's what I was thinking, If they ship you the unit, It will most likely have 1.4 installed. It probably only have EFX so I don't think a Beta would be necessary.
Cid K
1:16 PM 20 October 2009
They already been testing the 1.4 beta, they probably did it internaly and/or with a special dedicated group of users since no one had acces to a VFX.
DJ Fokus Tokyo
1:23 PM 20 October 2009
The key to success people is "Under promise and Over deliver" this way everyone is happy!
Japan sites: Sales Date Last weekend of Oct.
Japan sites: Sales Date Last weekend of Oct.
BadBoyChubs
1:29 PM 20 October 2009
This reminds me of the NS7! LOLOL
Maybe u will see a Worldwide count on a special website dedicated to ITCH 2.0.
Maybe u will see a Worldwide count on a special website dedicated to ITCH 2.0.
BadBoyChubs
1:43 PM 20 October 2009
Is like Serato been order by the Sepreme Court to keep a lip on it. LOLOL
No Detials. I think serato have Big tricks up their sleeves. Cause if it was jus efx and minor bugs : they woulda release it long time,
No Detials. I think serato have Big tricks up their sleeves. Cause if it was jus efx and minor bugs : they woulda release it long time,
Cid K
1:46 PM 20 October 2009
From what i can remember and please correct me if am wrong, but it always been like that with Serato, since the very begining.
kraal
2:02 PM 20 October 2009
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Cause if it was jus efx and minor bugs : they woulda release it long time,has anyone noticed no bug fixes recently? no comments on known issues. maybe cause they are all non issues in the new version
djtornado
2:14 PM 20 October 2009
it will not take this long if they have had put a beta for test to the public.
Cid K
2:18 PM 20 October 2009
How can they put a Beta for something nobody have yet... I mean if they were to give us some beta test to try out, how would you test that when you dont even have the hardware (VFX-1 or NFX) to test it on.
BadBoyChubs
5:52 PM 20 October 2009
2.0 is not only for the EFX. I think is an improvement to enhance the hardware proformance! Cause remember not everyone wants efx. they jus want a better running software
djtornado
9:19 PM 20 October 2009
i am not interested in fx , i am waiting for the new beat grid and really waiting for video capability and sampler.
czar
9:27 PM 20 October 2009
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i am not interested in fx , i am waiting for the new beat grid and really waiting for video capability and sampler.1+
ChrisD
9:28 PM 20 October 2009
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From what i can remember and please correct me if am wrong, but it always been like that with Serato, since the very begining.You're absolutely right Cid :-)
DJ De Leon
6:00 AM 21 October 2009
Can we get a conformation as to which version will be released soon?
1.4 or 2.0
1.4 or 2.0
Richard E
6:46 AM 21 October 2009
Heheh! For ages everyone's been going on about what a big deal FX are, and now we have some on the way they're like "if it's ONLY FX then it's only a minor release"! Clearly FX is a very major new feature, but Serato can choose any version number they want.
What's more interesting is what the upgrade policy will be for users of ITCH 1.0 (and 1.1). My guess is that the 2.0 software will be a paid upgrade (but how much?) if you don't buy the FX hardware, but any new hardware (FX or existing controllers) will ship with 2.0 included. That would seem pretty fair to me. I could be pleasantly surprised about the paid upgrade though. A 'grace period' of 6 weeks or so for people who just recently got 1.0 would probably make sense too.
What's more interesting is what the upgrade policy will be for users of ITCH 1.0 (and 1.1). My guess is that the 2.0 software will be a paid upgrade (but how much?) if you don't buy the FX hardware, but any new hardware (FX or existing controllers) will ship with 2.0 included. That would seem pretty fair to me. I could be pleasantly surprised about the paid upgrade though. A 'grace period' of 6 weeks or so for people who just recently got 1.0 would probably make sense too.
czar
6:59 AM 21 October 2009
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Heheh! For ages everyone's been going on about what a big deal FX are, and now we have some on the way they're like "if it's ONLY FX then it's only a minor release"! Clearly FX is a very major new feature, but Serato can choose any version number they want.What's more interesting is what the upgrade policy will be for users of ITCH 1.0 (and 1.1). My guess is that the 2.0 software will be a paid upgrade (but how much?) if you don't buy the FX hardware, but any new hardware (FX or existing controllers) will ship with 2.0 included. That would seem pretty fair to me. I could be pleasantly surprised about the paid upgrade though. A 'grace period' of 6 weeks or so for people who just recently got 1.0 would probably make sense too.
if it works for you.. yea u right FX is kinda big tho cuz how many thigns can u do anyways right? lol
Cid K
1:31 PM 21 October 2009
I dont think it will be a paid upgrade, why would they do that anyways... They never sold their apps.
kraal
11:10 PM 21 October 2009
i love how he shows up to say 'we are reading however we are not going to answer you at the moment ' :)
KLH
1:30 AM 22 October 2009
I read Matt-C's response as "We're almost done. Any day now, we'll release ITCH 2.0 and you're going to love it!"
-KLH
-KLH
DJ Fokus Tokyo
3:31 AM 22 October 2009
Thanks Matt.
Under-promise and Over-deliver to a tee! Looking forward to it.
Under-promise and Over-deliver to a tee! Looking forward to it.
MrTM2
5:03 AM 22 October 2009
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Under-promise and Over-deliver to a tee! Looking forward to it.
QFT. Serato 4 life.
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Thanks Matt.Under-promise and Over-deliver to a tee! Looking forward to it.
QFT. Serato 4 life.
DJ Fokus Tokyo
5:38 AM 22 October 2009
Nice...
What do you mean by QTF > I had no idea Quantum Field Theory had anything to do with Serato's business model, but then again it might. ;) en.wikipedia.org
Anyhow my main point above was I really like what they are doing, it is a business model we use as well here with our apps and projects...usually makes our end users v.v.v. happy.
What do you mean by QTF > I had no idea Quantum Field Theory had anything to do with Serato's business model, but then again it might. ;) en.wikipedia.org
Anyhow my main point above was I really like what they are doing, it is a business model we use as well here with our apps and projects...usually makes our end users v.v.v. happy.
czar
8:19 AM 22 October 2009
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All ITCH and Scratch Live software updates are free :Dthey are not free unless you can use them without the controllers..
kraal
11:37 AM 22 October 2009
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All ITCH and Scratch Live software updates are free :Dthey are not free unless you can use them without the controllers..
yes they are. but you means of using them may not be. but if you never purchased a controller then you really don't need to update
DJ Fokus Tokyo
2:44 PM 22 October 2009
I must agree with kraal;it is free. If you download ITCH it functions as a music player. You can also add cue points and update your music files with it.
czar
6:37 PM 22 October 2009
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I must agree with kraal;it is free. If you download ITCH it functions as a music player. You can also add cue points and update your music files with it.I think what I talked about was the software updates... and I said "they are not free unless you can use them without the hardware" meaning if the next upgrade of Itch has the FX's usable without the need to "unlock" them with the hardware then they will be in fact free. The hardware company shares the income with the software manufacturer, I think we talked about this before in other threads..
kraal
6:40 PM 22 October 2009
i look at it like this. the efx hardware comes with a version of it that has effects. now if you dont buy that hardware you will never get that version so you would never need the upgrade.
however the upgrade to your current version of itch is free
however the upgrade to your current version of itch is free
czar
6:43 PM 22 October 2009
it is obvious that you need the "FX parts" of the new hardware piece to morph with the existant installation.. however I think we are getting of track here cuz even I lost an important point.. what Matt-C said was "updates" not upgrades lol...
ChrisD
9:51 PM 22 October 2009
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All ITCH and Scratch Live software updates are free :Dthey are not free unless you can use them without the controllers..
I don't like the term "free" either. You guys paid good money to purchase a combination of hardware powered by Serato software.
I prefer to say that Serato provides "no cost" software updates.
Maskrider
3:43 AM 23 October 2009
I'm really hype with this EFX.........So I can show my Ipod Virtual Dj buddies....lol
kraal
3:46 AM 23 October 2009
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I'm really hype with this EFX.........So I can show my Ipod Virtual Dj buddies....lol:)
I1Kirm
12:09 AM 15 March 2010
I assume that an ITCH 2 beta will be available a couple of months after SSL 2 is finalized
Maskrider
12:27 AM 15 March 2010
I have a feeling it's going to be a long way to go since there is still a lot of bugs being sorted out.
DJALEX11
1:16 AM 15 March 2010
I have a feeling it's going to be a long way to go since there is still a lot of bugs being sorted out.
DJALEX11
1:18 AM 15 March 2010
YO PREFIERO USAR VIRTUAL DJ, Y PUEDO USAR 12 SAMPLE PLAYER, PERO ICTH NO TIENE SAMPLE PLAYER
DJALEX11
1:19 AM 15 March 2010
I prefer to use VIRTUAL DJ, and can use 12 SAMPLE PLAYER, BUT HAS NO SAMPLE ICTH PLAYER
YESWEDJ.COM
3:20 AM 15 March 2010
It is funny how some of the same users in this forum are kraving more features and cant wait for ITCH 2.0 any longer. But are on other forum saying they are not that desperate. Well I am looking forward to know when 2.0 will be realeased and our YESWEDJ team is looking forward to it as well....
wadup
4:33 AM 15 March 2010
Not bashing on serato or anything.. but i think we all deserve an update on how long we still have to wait. all i know is the truth never kill anyone,if anything is releive anxiety.
kraal
5:00 AM 15 March 2010
yeah not exact dates but something would help cause as of right now from when we first heard about 2.0 it is starting to sound like an abandoned project. conversations of how ITCH and SSL are 2 seperate programs and going seperate directions no longer ring true. ITCH is still seeming like the by product of SSL left overs. The 2.0 development is what is making me say this. Maybe i am not in the SSL loop but i thought itch 2.0 was announced before SSL 2.0
wadup
5:16 AM 15 March 2010
I believe your right about the annoucement kraal.. I think that a little heads up from serato would make things alot better for us users who have no idea whats going on with 2.0... to me it's seems as if everyone from serato is ignoring this question.. i mean (and i hope we are all grown ups) we can handle the truth.. if it aint gonna be ready for sometime now it's ok just let us know so we can put our attention on something thing else and when 2.0 comes it comes. If it was up to me a would just release itch 1.7 that has the beatgrid function so we can play with it, atleast it would take your mind off 2.0 because we will be too busy setting up the grids..
Maskrider
9:26 AM 15 March 2010
For sure I just need new updates for the current issues....Hope they show up some signs about the development.
I1Kirm
9:56 AM 15 March 2010
I think the Serato development team is quite small and currently they are pushing all their efforts on SSL 2. Whether we like it or not SSL is currently the cash cow of Serato and it makes sense for them to focus on it. But these are not entirely bad news. We all know that SSL and ITCH share a lot of common code and we also know that one of the basic 2.0 features is already implemented in ITCH (the beatgrid in 1.6 albeit with a lot of problems). All the other basic 2.0 features are currently tested in SSL 2 beta (Bridge, possible GUI revamp, better 4 deck support compared to 1.6 etc). So, while we, the ITCH users, have nothing in our hands a lot of the necessary work (and I mean debugging) is been done for us by the SSL users, which are a lot more than us and thus more possible bugs will surface.
Just be patient, as I pointed before I strongly believe that an ITCH 2.0 beta will be available shortly (within 3 months) after the SSL 2.0 is finalized.
Just be patient, as I pointed before I strongly believe that an ITCH 2.0 beta will be available shortly (within 3 months) after the SSL 2.0 is finalized.
djcerla
10:06 AM 15 March 2010
My 2 cents: I am more than happy with 1.5, that gives me the level of solid performance I need to express my music without distractions.
Seeing how 1.6 is I can only suggest Serato to take ALL THE TIME they need to finalize 2.0, and not rush things to beta testing. Keep up the good work guys, at your usual quality standards.
Seeing how 1.6 is I can only suggest Serato to take ALL THE TIME they need to finalize 2.0, and not rush things to beta testing. Keep up the good work guys, at your usual quality standards.
YESWEDJ.COM
12:13 PM 15 March 2010
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yeah not exact dates but something would help cause as of right now from when we first heard about 2.0 it is starting to sound like an abandoned project. conversations of how ITCH and SSL are 2 seperate programs and going seperate directions no longer ring true. ITCH is still seeming like the by product of SSL left overs. The 2.0 development is what is making me say this. Maybe i am not in the SSL loop but i thought itch 2.0 was announced before SSL 2.0wao Kraal,
You Hit it right on the money....
kraal
12:25 PM 15 March 2010
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All the other basic 2.0 features are currently tested in SSL 2 beta (Bridge, possible GUI revamp, better 4 deck support compared to 1.6 etc).Just be patient, as I pointed before I strongly believe that an ITCH 2.0 beta will be available shortly (within 3 months) after the SSL 2.0 is finalized.
p think that is the point i am really feeling....pf all that is 2.0 is :
Bridge-- you need to get ableton.
DUI revamp --- not a big deal
4 deck support --- only for xone users
doesn't seem like much added to ITCH as far as feature... that is why it seems like an abandoned project
also earlier it has been stated that ITCH has it's own developers just 'share an office' this was in a discussion about ITCH and SSL not being the same
I1Kirm
12:30 PM 15 March 2010
I am not aware of this conversation but even it the developers are indeed different it will make no sense for them to write the same code twice. They are still going to wait for the Bridge to be streamlined.
As for your other comments you're probably write but I am (and I think many others) FULL ON BRIDGE.
I just unboxed my APC40 (will post pictures soon) and the minute ITCH 2 beta comes out I'll upgrade to full Ableton Live.
As for your other comments you're probably write but I am (and I think many others) FULL ON BRIDGE.
I just unboxed my APC40 (will post pictures soon) and the minute ITCH 2 beta comes out I'll upgrade to full Ableton Live.
kraal
12:35 PM 15 March 2010
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As for your other comments you're probably write but I am (and I think many others) FULL ON BRIDGE.
but also realize i am not saying anything against itch all i am asking for is info. think about it even SSL 2.0 has yet to add bridge so no telling when it will be in ITCH ...i am currently learning ABLETON myself
I1Kirm
12:40 PM 15 March 2010
Yes I know what you mean and I am skeptical myself.
On the other hand Ableton is quite usable with ITCH as it is. I was able to set VCI as the output device on Ableton and by using the nudge feature on APC mix a full Ableton set with 2 decks playing from the VCI!
On the other hand Ableton is quite usable with ITCH as it is. I was able to set VCI as the output device on Ableton and by using the nudge feature on APC mix a full Ableton set with 2 decks playing from the VCI!
czar
9:53 PM 15 March 2010
I want to see the results from the feature poll we did a couple months ago..
amphidelic
2:58 AM 16 March 2010
I still don't get why some DJ software users get all antsy about releases that haven't been announced yet. I've seen this going back for, oh, seven years now on the old Traktor forums, the SSL forums, and now here. Would you rather have an arbitrary date announced, or wait for the developers to refine the software and release updates when they're actually ready?
And sure, I love seeing new features added, as long as they're stable, useful, and don't lead to bloat, but did anyone here hop on the ITCH bandwagon based on what MIGHT be added to future releases? If ITCH (or any other DJ software) doesn't have the bells and whistles that a competing product has, weren't you aware of this before you got ITCH?
I'm happy with what I've got. New features are just icing on the cake, so whether an update is released tomorrow or eight months from now, I'd rather let the developers turn out a stable product WHEN IT'S READY.
And sure, I love seeing new features added, as long as they're stable, useful, and don't lead to bloat, but did anyone here hop on the ITCH bandwagon based on what MIGHT be added to future releases? If ITCH (or any other DJ software) doesn't have the bells and whistles that a competing product has, weren't you aware of this before you got ITCH?
I'm happy with what I've got. New features are just icing on the cake, so whether an update is released tomorrow or eight months from now, I'd rather let the developers turn out a stable product WHEN IT'S READY.
MusicDan
3:04 AM 16 March 2010
I agree with what you are saying about it being stable...
...but they did announce this: "Serato ITCH version 2.0 is scheduled for delivery during Q4 2009 and will support more flexible configurations, hardware types and an array of features designed by the worlds leading brands to empower future DJs."
And you can find it here if you need a source...serato.com
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I still don't get why some DJ software users get all antsy about releases that haven't been announced yet. I've seen this going back for, oh, seven years now on the old Traktor forums, the SSL forums, and now here. Would you rather have an arbitrary date announced, or wait for the developers to refine the software and release updates when they're actually ready?...but they did announce this: "Serato ITCH version 2.0 is scheduled for delivery during Q4 2009 and will support more flexible configurations, hardware types and an array of features designed by the worlds leading brands to empower future DJs."
And you can find it here if you need a source...serato.com
KLH
3:06 AM 16 March 2010
FWIW, Traktor and Torq seem to introduce features before stabilizing them... which turns DJs off. It's better to have a solid foundation and build on that.
IMHO, ITCH is missing a great BPM adjusting engine (like Elastique), but nails everything else.
-KLH
IMHO, ITCH is missing a great BPM adjusting engine (like Elastique), but nails everything else.
-KLH
amphidelic
3:10 AM 16 March 2010
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...but they did announce this: "Serato ITCH version 2.0 is scheduled for delivery during Q4 2009 and will support more flexible configurations, hardware types and an array of features designed by the worlds leading brands to empower future DJs."Oh yeah, and I forgot to mention that I don't ever recall seeing an SSL or Traktor software update arrive on schedule. It's nice when they can try and project a ballpark timeline, but from my own past experience as a software beta tester: bug crop up, fixes are made which might create bugs elsewhere, so the workload actually increases exponentially over time. I'm not saying Serato shouldn't create goals for themselves by releasing the software on time, it's just that release dates are often wishful thinking.
Just tell yourself, "I'll believe it when I see it."
amphidelic
3:13 AM 16 March 2010
... And as soon as Serato released the public beta for SSL 2.0, the forum was filled with amusing threads like "OMG WHEN IS 3.0 GOING TO BE RELEASED!11!1", so expect to see some of that here too.
czar
4:08 AM 16 March 2010
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... And as soon as Serato released the public beta for SSL 2.0, the forum was filled with amusing threads like "OMG WHEN IS 3.0 GOING TO BE RELEASED!11!1", so expect to see some of that here too.that unless 2 can catch some attention. the asking for 3 will happen is 2 falls short of expectation.
teh Birdge looks promising..
Dylan W
1:13 AM 18 March 2010
Hey Guys,
I just want to clear a few things up that have been discussed in this thread.
First of all ITCH 2.0 and its ship date. Last year we said we were targeting having ITCH 2.0 available towards the end of 2009. This hasn't happened for a few reasons and I wanted to publicly state why.
Last year we came up with a plan for 2.0 targeting the end of 2009, we've since changed that plan. I'd like to apologize for the fact that we announced a date before we were certain that we'd meet it. We broke our own rules, not cool.
The plan for last year involved making a new release, which had a bit of stuff in it, and calling it ITCH 2.0. The new plan is, we think, a better one but it unfortunately it means 2.0 is quite a way off. We'll still work on ITCH 1.x in the meantime and make updates available to ITCH users at no cost.
The current 2.0 plan is more ambitious. Instead of putting out a release in the short term with few improvements in it, we're going to take some time to really dig into the code and change things around to make them better in the long term.
This means:
- You'll get more stuff. The new 2.0 (2.0 version of 2.0 if you will) will have more new stuff in it than the old 2.0.
- ITCH will work better on the inside. We expect that this will translate into better performance, but the other big driver for doing this is that it means that we'll be able to add the features you want faster in the future. Sometimes you have to stop and tidy your desk for a while, and then you can get things done more efficiently.
I'm guessing what what you really want is a list of features and a date. Alas, I can't give you this. I can tell you ITCH 2.0 will be at least several months away and that you will get another 1.x release before 2.0 comes out. We will deliver stability and performance improvements, as well as a new thing or two for everyone before 2.0.
When we work on a release we take our time, beta it thoroughly and then put it out to you. This means it takes a while but we like to think it helps make ITCH the stable platform you all want it to be. I know a lot of you are excited about getting 2.0, so am I, it's going to be awesome but we'll all have to wait a bit longer. Thanks for being so passionate about ITCH and whilst we're not always posting in the threads we are here and we are listening, it's important to us that we hear what you have to say.
Thanks
Dylan Wood
ITCH Product Manager
I just want to clear a few things up that have been discussed in this thread.
First of all ITCH 2.0 and its ship date. Last year we said we were targeting having ITCH 2.0 available towards the end of 2009. This hasn't happened for a few reasons and I wanted to publicly state why.
Last year we came up with a plan for 2.0 targeting the end of 2009, we've since changed that plan. I'd like to apologize for the fact that we announced a date before we were certain that we'd meet it. We broke our own rules, not cool.
The plan for last year involved making a new release, which had a bit of stuff in it, and calling it ITCH 2.0. The new plan is, we think, a better one but it unfortunately it means 2.0 is quite a way off. We'll still work on ITCH 1.x in the meantime and make updates available to ITCH users at no cost.
The current 2.0 plan is more ambitious. Instead of putting out a release in the short term with few improvements in it, we're going to take some time to really dig into the code and change things around to make them better in the long term.
This means:
- You'll get more stuff. The new 2.0 (2.0 version of 2.0 if you will) will have more new stuff in it than the old 2.0.
- ITCH will work better on the inside. We expect that this will translate into better performance, but the other big driver for doing this is that it means that we'll be able to add the features you want faster in the future. Sometimes you have to stop and tidy your desk for a while, and then you can get things done more efficiently.
I'm guessing what what you really want is a list of features and a date. Alas, I can't give you this. I can tell you ITCH 2.0 will be at least several months away and that you will get another 1.x release before 2.0 comes out. We will deliver stability and performance improvements, as well as a new thing or two for everyone before 2.0.
When we work on a release we take our time, beta it thoroughly and then put it out to you. This means it takes a while but we like to think it helps make ITCH the stable platform you all want it to be. I know a lot of you are excited about getting 2.0, so am I, it's going to be awesome but we'll all have to wait a bit longer. Thanks for being so passionate about ITCH and whilst we're not always posting in the threads we are here and we are listening, it's important to us that we hear what you have to say.
Thanks
Dylan Wood
ITCH Product Manager
dj_smoov
2:23 AM 18 March 2010
Well There you have it.. its a few months off.. let only they have yet to get 1.5 fully done yet and we are asking for 2.0.. let chill out and rock with what we got for now and go fromt here.. Hell yeah Im excited to see new thing and upgrades but you have to understand this business for them to make money they have to put things out slowly to keep making money.. if they put out all the bells and whistles the 1st time and everyone was to get it.. they wouldnt make money in the long run.. Its smart on the buisness end for Serato.. But keep up the hard work Serato and you already know you have egerly waitly customers waiting for 2.0..
YESWEDJ.COM
2:33 AM 18 March 2010
Great This is What I am talking about,
Somebody came up and spoke out that is what I was looking for. I know in my end our company has been very patiently waiting but now at least we know what to expect
Somebody came up and spoke out that is what I was looking for. I know in my end our company has been very patiently waiting but now at least we know what to expect
YESWEDJ.COM
2:36 AM 18 March 2010
I know,
It is not what I expected and I am still having to decide if worth waiting or whatever but now I can move on with our decision. To sell and focus more on ssl products.
It is not what I expected and I am still having to decide if worth waiting or whatever but now I can move on with our decision. To sell and focus more on ssl products.
wadup
3:24 AM 18 March 2010
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I can tell you ITCH 2.0 will be at least several months away and that you will get another 1.x release before 2.0 comes out.
Thanks for the update dylan.. Just one small request.. please tell us that with the new 1.x release it will include the beatgrid...
orvekio
4:57 AM 18 March 2010
Thank you Serato, it puts a lot of minds to rest with you saying something. Much appreciated =)
KLH
5:50 AM 18 March 2010
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Much appreciated =)+1
Does this mean that we need a ITCH 2.0 v2.0 thread to wildly guess about the new release content and dates? Kraal, if you would do the honor...
-KLH
kraal
7:17 AM 18 March 2010
great info...glad to know the delays are feature based and not problem based
BadBoyChubs
12:37 PM 18 March 2010
I cant remember who said it but They was Right, they said that there will be another 1.x even b4 2.0.
jus image 1.5 is working so great and now a 1.8 or 1.9 makes me almost jump for joy.
because if i read good, Dylan said new features will be included in 1.x,
I jus hope it is a new pitch range -25% +25%
jus image 1.5 is working so great and now a 1.8 or 1.9 makes me almost jump for joy.
because if i read good, Dylan said new features will be included in 1.x,
I jus hope it is a new pitch range -25% +25%
djcerla
12:49 PM 18 March 2010
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I jus hope it is a new pitch range -25% +25%in the DX it's -100% to >1000%
BadBoyChubs
1:01 PM 18 March 2010
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I jus hope it is a new pitch range -25% +25%in the DX it's -100% to >1000%
yeah i need that range because it goes from 16% then 50%, jus need something inbetween ! 50 to high for me!
Dj Kabrini Greens
4:12 PM 18 March 2010
itch 2.0 is 99.99% done its the .01 that has all the magic in it. lol Thanks for the heads up dylan.
BadBoyChubs
4:56 PM 18 March 2010
I think Itch 2.0 will Blow SL2.0 out of the water, I say that cause they change their game plan, and going to add more features so i think some of our crys have not fallen on deaf ears!
I1Kirm
5:04 PM 18 March 2010
^ I'll definitely stick to the latest 1.x version if they're going to add this on 2.0
DJ Xio
5:17 PM 18 March 2010
One question, is serato planning on supporting Video sometime in the future for ITCH?
marcA
5:18 PM 18 March 2010
no the only question for me is if the beatgrid will be available to *all* controllers in a 1.x version...
***beatgrid***
***me wanna play***
***do you feel me****
***beatgrid***
***me wanna play***
***do you feel me****
I1Kirm
5:24 PM 18 March 2010
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no the only question for me is if the beatgrid will be available to *all* controllers in a 1.x version...***beatgrid***
***me wanna play***
***do you feel me****
Yes I feel you! With beatgrid we could properly mix these phrases;
***be__at__gr__id_***
***me_wanna__play***
***do_you_feel_me***
I1Kirm
5:35 PM 18 March 2010
I know, Serato has acknowledged the problems with the beatgrid in 1.6 and will fix them soon in a new version.
wadup
5:43 PM 18 March 2010
Yes, cmon serato guys lets us know if beat grid will be in next release... I hope not too long from now.
kraal
5:50 PM 18 March 2010
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as long as it isn't only XONE stuff...xone 1.6 will need to blend in with the other versions so i see this as a perfect excuse of giving us the beat grid for ALL controllers
SOLIDARITY NOW !!!
DJ Fokus Tokyo
3:45 AM 19 March 2010
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We'll still work on ITCH 1.x in the meantime and make updates available to ITCH users at no cost.Correct me if I am wrong but from the phrase above it appears as ITCH 2 would be a paid for upgrade?
Dylan W
3:51 AM 19 March 2010
ITCH 2.0 will be like all other updates to ITCH and be free of charge.
Cheers
Dylan.
Cheers
Dylan.
wadup
5:56 PM 19 March 2010
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i am guessing several months means about 6 or 7that's the time frame for itch 2.0, but i was talking about the next 1.x release....
kraal
6:35 PM 19 March 2010
i would guess closer to 3 months due to these next 2 i am sure they will be concentrating on killing the bugs of the xone 1.6
wadup
9:15 PM 19 March 2010
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i would guess closer to 3 months due to these next 2 i am sure they will be concentrating on killing the bugs of the xone 1.6well i'm hoping less than a month.. 1.6 has some of the new features already (Beat Grid, GUI) I think this will all do us justice for now untill 2.0 comes. Serato just need to Quash some bugs and add the existing controllers. we just need some more info from serato supporters then we can put this to rest.
kraal
10:34 PM 19 March 2010
i think it will be in beta in less than a month but you know how these betas go
Dj Cooly C
5:55 PM 20 March 2010
i want it all! Don't hold back this is the way of djing, Effects, beat grid, auto bpm, sampler, and anything else you may think is cool and innovative. I'm from the school of 1200's and big ass wooden crates of records and I enjoy not having to do all that manual labor. And I am a real DJ and I respect the digital dj game. So Don't hold back. damnit, give it to us.
Dj Cooly C
6:01 PM 20 March 2010
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i want it all! Don't hold back this is the way of djing, Effects, beat grid, auto bpm, sampler, and anything else you may think is cool and innovative. I'm from the school of 1200's and big ass wooden crates of records and I enjoy not having to do all that manual labor. And I am a real DJ and I respect the digital dj game. So Don't hold back. damnit, give it to us.scratch that, I'm in the wrong discussion but I seen some Dj's aren't concerned with effects.
czar
7:03 PM 20 March 2010
Dj Ace
4:40 AM 21 March 2010
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will be sweet with all scratches dropping on beat wooho.My scratches always drop on beat...dont get it?
kraal
7:15 AM 21 March 2010
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will be sweet with all scratches dropping on beat wooho.My scratches always drop on beat...dont get it?
yup people forget that you dont need beat grid to actually drop on beat
:)
MusicDan
2:16 PM 21 March 2010
But there are people here who don't scratch very well and beatgrid will help them allot. I don't scratch at all, maybe with beatgrid I will start. Nah!
Dj Ace
5:00 PM 21 March 2010
it takes practice and dedication to learn scratching...but once you GET it it puts you on a whole different level musically. you will know definitely know how to drop sample, songs, and scratches on beat
MusicDan
8:10 PM 21 March 2010
I already know how to drop samples and songs on beat. I don't need to know how to scratch to do that. For the genre of music I play, I do not need to learn how to scratch.
iiexist
8:55 PM 21 March 2010
how will beat grid have any effect on scratching? i thought beatgrid was mainly for mixing? beat grid cant judge when or how the user is going to move/drop the sample or beat..?
wadup
9:15 PM 21 March 2010
kraal is right, now you don't have to worry about pitch bending, this is going to be a powerful tool.
iiexist
10:10 PM 21 March 2010
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actually it can by snapping it to the closest beat markerQuote:
kraal is right, now you don't have to worry about pitch bending, this is going to be a powerful tool.well i get beatgridding an actual sample to make it time out with whatever bpm your heart desires.. but when it comes to actual scratching.. how will beatgridding affect the way YOU scratch? just cause something is on a beatgrid, doesnt mean youll be able to all of sudden do awesome baby scratches... or am i wrong?
kraal
10:28 PM 21 March 2010
dosnt effect the scratching but in theory when you drop tha 'ahh yeah' at the end of the scratch it can line on beat
Dj Ace
1:12 AM 22 March 2010
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I already know how to drop samples and songs on beat. I don't need to know how to scratch to do that. For the genre of music I play, I do not need to learn how to scratch.I am referring to scratch first then release in time with beat not just dropping on beat
iiexist
2:31 AM 22 March 2010
so lets say.. dj "no rhythm" drops an ahh yeah completely off beat.. everytime.. no beatgrid.. with beatgrid.. no matter where he drops, as long as its synced, itll drop on time?
that almost seems that it would affect the way your scratches would sound since the app would be trying to sync while the user is trying to bust out some crazy combo..?
that almost seems that it would affect the way your scratches would sound since the app would be trying to sync while the user is trying to bust out some crazy combo..?
Dj Kabrini Greens
8:00 PM 22 March 2010
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so lets say.. dj "no rhythm" drops an ahh yeah completely off beat.. everytime.. no beatgrid.. with beatgrid.. no matter where he drops, as long as its synced, itll drop on time?that almost seems that it would affect the way your scratches would sound since the app would be trying to sync while the user is trying to bust out some crazy combo..?
I think just teh button pushes are quantized. You can still drop samples off beat.
djcerla
8:06 PM 22 March 2010
A quantized scratch is not doable technically, as the software can't look into the future, thus has no informations about the rhythmic figures you're going to perform.
iiexist
10:25 PM 24 March 2010
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A quantized scratch is not doable technically, as the software can't look into the future, thus has no informations about the rhythmic figures you're going to perform.thats what i was thinking...
so i do not think that beatgridding will improve scratching.. maybe sample dropping.. but in no way scratching/cutting.
Maskrider
6:47 AM 25 March 2010
ITCH in general with quantization is a feature that everybody agrees.
djcerla
10:32 AM 25 March 2010
mmm... quantized cues... not always desirable!
You may want to turn them off, depending on your style... it's very quick to hit SYNC after dropping a cue point after all, not to mention that DJs MUST PRACTICE WITH METRONOME to tighten up their timing!
Come on lazy asses! :-)
You may want to turn them off, depending on your style... it's very quick to hit SYNC after dropping a cue point after all, not to mention that DJs MUST PRACTICE WITH METRONOME to tighten up their timing!
Come on lazy asses! :-)
Subdriven
1:27 AM 26 March 2010
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mmm... quantized cues... not always desirable!You may want to turn them off, depending on your style... it's very quick to hit SYNC after dropping a cue point after all, not to mention that DJs MUST PRACTICE WITH METRONOME to tighten up their timing!
Come on lazy asses! :-)
not syaing people don't need t work on there timing... but with a higher latency you are almost always off..... :(
djcerla
10:14 AM 26 March 2010
@ Subdriven
my 2 cents:
You are feeding a Lotus Elise with... diesel fuel. The beauty in ITCH is the feline response; so try to get a faster laptop, or a dedicated second-hand Mac to enjoy the full experience.
my 2 cents:
You are feeding a Lotus Elise with... diesel fuel. The beauty in ITCH is the feline response; so try to get a faster laptop, or a dedicated second-hand Mac to enjoy the full experience.
Maskrider
2:03 PM 26 March 2010
lol.....Give a heads up to on Computer specs to enjoy it in full potential.
Subdriven
4:28 PM 26 March 2010
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@ Subdrivenmy 2 cents:
You are feeding a Lotus Elise with... diesel fuel. The beauty in ITCH is the feline response; so try to get a faster laptop, or a dedicated second-hand Mac to enjoy the full experience.
I'm not really having a issues at lactency 5.... I wish I could be at 1 but for now it works.. ther are just so many out there that are running at 20 and complaining.. I was more refering to them..
:)
Subdriven
11:26 PM 26 March 2010
read through the complaints people have and you will see people running at 20 and still getting drop outs..
KLH
12:02 AM 27 March 2010
If Windows isn't optimized and the IRQs free for audio, you WILL get dropouts. Test with the DPC utility to see if the system in question can handle low-latency audio.
-KLH
-KLH
YESWEDJ.COM
6:51 AM 28 March 2010
I cant believe how ITCH come up and promises their product coming out and then out of the sudden plans changed and now they are taking their sweet time to make sure that there is no error...Are we getting any updates or something and that is the case when?
wadup
5:06 PM 28 March 2010
Yeah but atleast we can could get some answers instead of ignoring these question. whenever there are question like these, it's funny how they never get answer. They said 2.0 won't be ready for awhile, several months to be exact, fine.
So now we were promise a next update before 2.0... Serato can you give us timeline for the next update please.....
So now we were promise a next update before 2.0... Serato can you give us timeline for the next update please.....
KLH
6:16 PM 28 March 2010
Torq went through the same growing pains prior to the 1.5 release. When Torq 1.0.6 came out, it was very unstable. So M-Audio decided to spend the time to fix that release instead of moving toward 1.5. After about 8 months, 1.0.7 came out and it was VERY stable. After another YEAR went by, then 1.5 came out and most stayed with 1.0.7...
Anyways, my reason for bringing this up is that software development is a difficult business. Everyone wants the NEXT version because it is supposed to fix EVERYTHING and have even more features... Unfortunately, more features mean more bugs and possible instability.
Have patience. Serato wants to release ITCH's updates and upgrades as soon as possible too.
-KLH
Anyways, my reason for bringing this up is that software development is a difficult business. Everyone wants the NEXT version because it is supposed to fix EVERYTHING and have even more features... Unfortunately, more features mean more bugs and possible instability.
Have patience. Serato wants to release ITCH's updates and upgrades as soon as possible too.
-KLH
kraal
6:30 PM 28 March 2010
yeahan 1.x release was only announces 8 days ago ... has to got through alpha then beta so it maybe a bit before any information is out. and i am sure due to the 2 false estimates of when 2.0 will be out serato is going to be a little less free to toss out dates
wadup
6:32 PM 28 March 2010
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Have patience. Serato wants to release ITCH's updates and upgrades as soon as possible too.
-KLH
that's is not the point i'm trying to make..
Instead of keeping us in the dark be upfront with us. You are right about more features mean more bugs, that is why they could take all the time they need to get 2.0 right.. but as for right now 1.6 has beatgrid and the rest of us want it.. so it should take that long to give the next update with this feature because it's already there
Have patience. Serato wants to release ITCH's updates and upgrades as soon as possible too.
-KLH
that's is not the point i'm trying to make..
Instead of keeping us in the dark be upfront with us. You are right about more features mean more bugs, that is why they could take all the time they need to get 2.0 right.. but as for right now 1.6 has beatgrid and the rest of us want it.. so it should take that long to give the next update with this feature because it's already there
kraal
7:11 PM 28 March 2010
it is already there in software that was written to work on the xoneDX so they still need to re-write in order to get it to work on other controllers.... it isnt like just loading the 1.6 works.
Subdriven
8:13 PM 28 March 2010
Software development takes time.. they could probably put it out today but you'd start complaining on bugs and how you want 2.1 to fix it and they get a bad name. If they don't know a excact date then why should they make one up to make you happy for now?? take a look at the video game industry, how often do games get pushed back over and over and every gets mad because they were promissed a game on a certain date.
Let them do there job the way they should. If I understood right SSL 2.0 beta is also a partial test for some of the the Itch software so they are getting some bugs worked out already with that before the Itch 2.0 comes out...
Let them do there job the way they should. If I understood right SSL 2.0 beta is also a partial test for some of the the Itch software so they are getting some bugs worked out already with that before the Itch 2.0 comes out...
thundergazm
10:21 PM 8 April 2010
does anyone know if 2.0 will be compatible with 64-bit windows 7? or when the 64-bit drivers for 1.5 will be out of beta testing?
DjTimZyx
2:07 PM 4 March 2011
Any update on this release? Its been almost 2 years with no 2.0. We had been promised itch 2.0 to work with the bridge and it still isn't completed? Can we at least try the beta to help you guys test it? Provide feedback and at least pratice? Some of us like myself picked up ableton Live and would lve to try it out!. Please? Thanks Serato Team.
zaguama
2:21 PM 4 March 2011
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Sorry for the lack of news around ITCH 2.0 - I agree it's time we said something a little more concrete about what's really happening with ITCH 2.0.
The news is all good actually. ITCH 2.0 is progressing nicely and is looking really exciting. There are some great new features in it that will benefit users of all controllers, as well as a new look that we hope people will love.
In regards to when? Software release dates are always tricky, but we be hope to have something to show you all early next month.
Cheers!
Matt
you can follow this thread www.serato.com
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Hey guys,Sorry for the lack of news around ITCH 2.0 - I agree it's time we said something a little more concrete about what's really happening with ITCH 2.0.
The news is all good actually. ITCH 2.0 is progressing nicely and is looking really exciting. There are some great new features in it that will benefit users of all controllers, as well as a new look that we hope people will love.
In regards to when? Software release dates are always tricky, but we be hope to have something to show you all early next month.
Cheers!
Matt
you can follow this thread www.serato.com
Toby82
11:35 AM 6 March 2011
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This means:
- You'll get more stuff. The new 2.0 (2.0 version of 2.0 if you will) will have more new stuff in it than the old 2.0.
- ITCH will work better on the inside. We expect that this will translate into better performance, but the other big driver for doing this is that it means that we'll be able to add the features you want faster in the future. Sometimes you have to stop and tidy your desk for a while, and then you can get things done more efficiently.
I Hope it also brings more stability as software from Serato was once the most stable and bugfree software i could think of (SSL). But lately Serato has disappointed me... Hope this gets better soon!
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