Yes... but in a 'roundabout' way. Most people will use a separate computer, MD recorder, or a stand-alone CD burner. I, myself, use the same computer (which is fairly powerful) and a very simple recording app (like Total Recorder or Windows Sound Recorder) that doesn't use much additional CPU.

Welcome aboard! :)

With a workaround, yes. SSL doesn't have a record function, but if you have a fast PC/MAC with a fast Harddrive, you can hook up an extra output of your mixer to the internal soundcard of your PC/MAC and record with programs like Wavelab (PC) or Peak (MAC).

Either way, I used to be a FS user, you'll make no mistake trading in your FS2 for SSL. Just look at this board. If you have problems, post 'em here, you'll get answers within hours (if not minutes) by the people who actually programmed the software. And believe me, you're lucky to even get a (prefabricated) response from NI by eMail. These Guys (Serato) are the Bomb!

Hope, I could help. :-)

Damn, Detroit beat me to the mark ;-p

;)

Good lookin out yall

would this comp be fast enuff tho

1.7 ghz AMD

80gb internal

and

80gb external harddrives

Copper Coolermaster

5 fans

1 external fan

256mb RAM soon to be updated to 512 or maybe a 1gb

and im looking into a labtop

well my family is and i would use it from time to time

thank u thank u thank u

do yourself a favor man and get yourself SSL! You should be happy during the holidays not angry....trying to get something that you paid a lot of money for with no support by the way just sucks.

You gotta act quick here to answer questions ...damn! If you are on Mac you can also look into a program called Audio Hijack great little app I use.

Love this board...great bunch of people. :)

hahah sounds good

i just dont no if my pc is fast enuff but idk i'd rather have a bug free expriance haha

Word. Can anyone of the PC users help him???

Pleaseeee haha

I thought I did... lol.

My laptop is 2.8 GHz and dedicated for Scratch Live (never connects to the internet; no unnecessary programs; XP tweaks - like those in 'Tips & Tricks'). I think you comp SHOULD be fast enough, but with computers and software... you never know. There are just too many variables at play. I say 'Go For It'... it isn't like FS2 has been good to you so far...

Your computer is comfortably above the minimum specs... give it a boost of RAM (to 512) and go to the Tips and Tricks section of this board to free up more speed for your desktop.

Yea, someone in the dallas area said they could help me out with it (i stay in the metro plex) but to me it still seems iffy and after readin that SSL vs FS2 vs CDX idk anymore lol... grrrrrrr I thought FS2 would be good quality bc i have one of the last SA-12 made, i got it a few weeks ago... And im really happy with it.

Alright

well i whipped my entire hard drive minus all the files i saved on my external 20gbs of music (i lost around 15 before, talk about a mess)

so i dont think there's anything on my pc to slow it down here ill take a screen shot if wut i have...
tinypic.com

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well that link didnt work to well i dont think lamo...

Your computer should be fast enough...

How did you find this site by the way?

I still see things that could potentially cause issues (remote assistance; messenger; etc)... seriously, check out the Tips & Tricks section - lots of great info.

I found it threw scratch worx and I have been hear a few times and read a few things before I bought FS2. idk though I shoulda looked more though lol

Are you going to return it tomorrow? Good luck, man...

Hopefully. Im not sure but thanks, theres a guy that he thinks he can fix my FS2 but idk i HIGHLY doubt it... I'll see whatsup

Let us know, man. I hope you will join the force of SSLers ;)

yup :)

Strong force of SSLers :D

B Campbell, if you checked skratchworx.... SSL was the winner. Why did you choose FS2? Just curious.
About the backwards playing, tried to revers your cables, and check the wirings of your carts/needles. It could be messed.

I guess the record function.

I chose b/c of the recording function and how SSL was picking up nosies i hate that more than anything else lol... But fs2 does it too so i mean... all it has better to me is the Recording and i barely had that working before it crashed... But know im thinkin what if i buy SSL and in the Next year SSL 2 comes out?

and about the needles nope i cleaned them and i hav reversed all the cables' its just a mess :-\

B Campbell, this "picking" up the noise thing is normal, if you set the threshold to low (this also applies to FS2) it will try to interpret the incoming noise as record movement. If the threshold is set up correctly this noise will be ignored/filtered away and there fore no "ghost" movement will be applied. Understand what I mean?

Well, you would still own one hell of a product. It works flawlessly for me. I don't think another version of SSL will come out next year. Some people have talked about the so-called SSL 2, but there has never been an official word on that as far as I know. Where did they pick that up from? I have no clue.

That Numark mixer with the USB thing looks really neat, eventhough I bet they ship them with crappy crossfaders. You easily record your stuff to your computer with that thing.

IC

Don't worry, we have no plans to change the hardware interface anytime soon.

hmmm

i got numark tables and i love the TT-200's they where my first tables

i was gonna get TTx-1's but i really dont see the use, might jus go with the TT-500s or w.e they are called

as for that mixer lol ill stay away i dont trust numark mixers, i love my SA-12

Remember to set your threshold correctly. You do this by using internal mode, right?

Yeah, I totally know about the Numark mixers. I own one myself. Crappy crossfader indeed...

it felt like a PVC pipe

idk y lol it just did... :)

I think... Im Having alot of trobule with the program

It doesn't sound that bad after I've cleaned it though. Have to do it almost every week.

With SSL? I thought you were on FS 2, man.

No I have FS2, i thought u were talkin bout FS2 lol... and as for cleanin... o clean my turntables speakers (which the amp fans JUST stopped working on) and mixer almost everyday so i wouldnt have a problem with that :)

I have no clue about FS. Never used it. Just used Traktor. Crashed everytime I used it :) Nice...

If you haven't read it yet, check the thread on some of SSL's current users' computers: scratchlive.net

My 850MHz laptop runs SSL flawlessly. My 1.4GHz Athlon desktop runs SSL flawlessly. Windows XP SP1 on both. Your computer specs beat both of mine hands-down, so I would anticipate a flawless experience! I didn't even use any extra tweaks from the Tips & Tricks forum. Of course, YMMV... but I would be confident if I were you.

And yeah... notice how somebody responded to your question 10 minutes after you posted it. That's not a fluke... that's TYPICAL of this forum! Support, more than anything else, is key! $0.02 ;-)

What USB buffer size do you use on those computers, m0rph?

well theres the verdict :)

ill call guitar center

im just really afraid about recording cuz i want it to sound real good..

You shouldn't be. djdsk has even recorded entire mixes where he's using SSL. You should check them out.

www.scratchlive.net

is it good enough to put out a mixtape? Just Curious... OMG everything is goin wrong, i hav the B-52 Matrix 1000 speakers and sub

and the sub is bottoming out :(

b-52 is good about warrenty tho

im just gonna send it in

i dont wanna repair it myself

thank god for My Mixers Master head fone cue

im just gonna use that for a while :) lol

im checkin into the dj's mix cuz thats the whole thing about MP3 to vinyl... im sick of hearing southern djs (og ron c and such...) use cd's and computers mixin software

gettin old

hopefully my computer will be able to handle both the SSL and the recording at the same time :) *crosses fingers*

Do you have a really good internal soundcard? Or do you use an external one? In that case, you might wanna consider getting another USB bus. I have a PCMIA card.

How Much will that run, in this case i will havta return my adpatec fire wire card and replace it with this card u speak of...

I use 10 for my laptop, and 5 for my desktop (those were the defaults SSL chose when I installed it). Never had a need to try lower settings because I don't do much scratching (just mixing), but I would suspect my desktop could handle the lowest buffer setting with no audio dropouts.


I agree with DetroitB00TYmasta - as long as you have a decent sound card to record with (I personally never liked on-board sound cards on motherboards), even using something as basic as Windows' Sound Recorder should yield sufficient results. When you finally get everything up and running, feel free to start a Private Discussion with me so I can help you optimize your PC for recording. Lookout Guitar Center... here you come!! Cheers! ;-)

Oh, you have a Firewire soundcard. That shouldn't be a problem. That's only an issue for people with USB soundcards like myself.

Or do you have a card with firewire input? Guess you could always buy a firewire soundcard in that case. There are even PCMIA cards which support both firewire and USB.

haha sounds great

how much would one of those cards run???

by the way im checkin out this mix... im very impressed with the sound quality and the mixing, amazing... i was wondering does any one know what type of sound card he has and such... thanks :)

What do you mean? How many devices you could hook up to that thing? Well, in that case, it depends on how much of the USB bus the device needs. Running a USB soundcard and SSL on the same bus probably won't work, I guess.

You could ask him yourself. Send him a PM. Note that this guy is living in China and you might not get an answer right away. www.scratchlive.net

You should also check out Lord Kaseem's videos if you haven't. Very impressive!

thanks sounds great

and about the sound card

no its jus a fire wire card i had to buy with FS2...

if i need to buy a new sound card to record with wut would u suggest and do you have a link???

i just have the one that came with my motherboard...

Thank yall so much for this help... Hopefully ill be a SSL user buy the end of the week :)

Well, it depends on how much money you're willing to spend. I don't have any of their soundcards myself, but check out www.m-audio.com

well i guess i'd b savin money after returning this FS2 so ill have some extra money in my pocket to chip for a good sound card, i jus hope after spendin money on a sound card that my system wont be obsolete and not able to record you know?

Yeah, I know what you're saying. You could also record on some other external device, but you could end up with a lower quality.

yea i understand

im still tryin to work this final scratch i dont think guitar center will let me take it back cuz its software AND hardware... :-\

regaurdless im stayin on this forum yall are great help :)

yup

Can't you just say it didn't work at all on your computer? It's partly true. I would strongly recommend switching to SSL. It's up to you though.

yea i got it working now, somthing with the grounding and stuff... but we'll see... lol it was workin this good on monday night/morning so idk... and then kaboom :-\

Don't take NO for an answer! I had the same issue because I bought FS1.5 from GC, but got a manager to verbally assure me that I could return it if it didn't work. Because the software will not work without the hardware, GC took mine back. But that's what you'll have to emphasize if they give you any grief: the software will not work without the hardware! (don't waste words with a minimum-wage employee... go straight for a floor manager). Plus, their return policy on the back of your receipt doesn't say anything specific about hardware/software combo packs... just software-only packages (and a 14-day return/refund limit).

Smooth it over with, "Well, I want to purchase SSL from you instead because I read reviews that it actually works." OTHERWISE, you're last resort is honestly, "This package is defective. I want a refund!" If they try to give you another FS2, you'll only bring it back again and say the same thing.

Take a deep breath... exhale... NOW GO LET 'EM HAVE IT! >:-)

haha with that in mind ill try but it could be a bloody battle lol...

:)

B Campbell,
just to avoid any confusion, when Revolutionary said that didnt mean djdsk recorded that to the same machine!
Plus, if you consider using a USB sound card for recording while you play with SSL, make sure, that it is on a different USB host! Else SSL has to share its bandwidth with the other soundcard, which is not a good idea.

Thanks thatll save me some money :)

Yeah, as I've already stated several times in this thread, just get a PCMIA card and it will assumingly work fine, man. And again, you could always get a firewire soundcard.

I use one of these to record, does a great job!

cgi.ebay.com

But that is internal, right?

Yeah, pci... have it in my desktop. If I wanna record live I just take my little DAT ;)

Nice ;) Still haven't gotten my laptop back from repair. Sucks.

I use Echo I/O wich is card bus audio interface. I bought it be cause there is (from what they write) minimum latency. Plus You dont have to stick another external interface to You USB and loose power. I dont have problem with that but for some its importat to use only one USB where they connect their SSL.
I can say that this Echo interface is really good product and should work well with some simple recording program for recording You sets.
As for now I didn't found any good program. One's zip file cant be open on my Mac, other program works terrible, third looks great but thats only demo... Welcome to Mac world. :))

check out Audio Hijack.

www.rogueamoeba.com

Thanks Alexander.
Just dowloaded it. Will check that tommorow.

no prob..enjoy!

any softwares like this but for PC??

Alexander

I am kinda confused here. Does Audio Hijack allow you to record SSL internally (i.e without needing to route your audio back into your computer via sound card)?

Thx

Shaun, the audio streams needs to be "mixed" (crossfader, eqs etc.), so capturing the streams (directly from SSL) is not sufficient, and I dont think this apps works like this, it sounds like it will capture the audio which comes through your audio out.


turntablist, check this thread here scratchlive.net and this thread here scratchlive.net . VAC (virtual audio cable) is damned nice app ( spider.nrcde.ru ).

Thx! ;-)

Shaun, Audio Hijack allows you to record from any application or even from your soundcard using its "Line In App" that is free to download from them.

I did try AH with SSL to try and record internally but it didn't work? This would be great if it would work though, so you wouldn't have to go out of your mixer into an internal/external soundcard to your laptop! Not sure if this is possible to work with SSL but I am interested in helping out to see if it can work!

Alexander, rememeber that you gotta record the sound from the mixer because you might use the crossfader, volumefaders or anything else you got on your mixer once in awhile.

OK I havent tried it yet but my friend and I have discussed how Audio Hijack WILL work. But first you need an iMic or similar - then set Audio Hijack to record from the iMic. Then connect the iMic to the record or other output of choice on the mixer ( I assume you will need a mini to rca plug for this last step) and Walla - THAT SHOULD DO IT. Obviously the iMic should also be connected to the CPU.

Let me know if anyone has tried this or why it shouldn't work.

Sorry guys, but what are you trying to do? You want to capture SSLs output? What for? Even if you can capture each channels output separately... For what? I am not sure, but I think the audio needs to be played through a normal sounddevice, but even if not, I cant see the point in capturing SSLs output. Can anyone of you enlighten me?

We are not trying to capture SSL output. Just discussing ways a MACINTOSH can record your mix on the same computer that is used to run SSL.

Wouldn't it be wonderful if SSL came with an optional sound card that would connect RCA plugs from the CPU to the mixer, and then you could push a record button that could record your mix in what ever type of file your choose MP3 or .wav ?

DJWL, I agree, it would be nice. FS2 is able to do that, but I read that somehow recording your set degrades plyback abilities, dont ask about details, check the official FS2 forum.

Anyway, if you want to record your mix... how could Audio Hijack help here? The mix happens, as Rev allready said, inside your mixer, and nowhere else. How should Audio Hijack capture your mixer output?

I thought you already read this part?

Yes, I did, but having an iMic has nothing to do with Audio Hijack. If you have an iMic you can simply record with another app. Or am I misunderstanding your suggestion/idea?

i own an imic and love it, but why do you need one? almost every computer has an audio in port (except ibooks which is why i bought my imic in the first place), you could connect your mixer out to your line-in using dual-rca to 1/8" cable. no need for imic.

...and no need for audio hijack.

Seriously, am I missing something? It makes no sense to use audio hijack for that, the primary purpose of audio hijack is hijacking audio from an app, right?

I'm with nik. What's the point of hijacking the audio from SSL anyway? You won't get the things you're doing on your mixer.

In the beginning, I was thinking that SSL maybe could remember the things you did and stuff like that in a special file (I think they had a feature like this in Traktor), but then I remembered the thing about the mixer.

right you could use another app besides audio hijack.

iMic is kind of like a soundcard or something? I'm not that into Macs...

cross-platform product, specs @ www.griffintechnology.com

Oh ok. I have a decent thing for that though...

I use Audacity (free) to record SSL sets. Just run the rca out to 1/4" into the input on Mac.
I do get occasional drop outs though. I will grab Audio Hijack and see if that's any better.
Anways, Audacity is a great app to rearrange/alter audio files to your liking.

Good. It looks like you are all ignoring what Rev and me are saying. Good luck with capturing your audio with audio hijack, you will definitly need it, as you dont seem to understand what audio hijack does and how it achieves it.

nik----ME?---i thought i would try use audio hijack to record from the 1/4 input instead the way it has been described. Maybe using another app would end the audio drop outs that i get with Audacity.

Should I PM you to ask permission to post?

Sorry if I'm dumb, but you are rude.

don't know if im late here or off topic. but why don't you just usb a simple USB,Firewire, or PCMCIA sound card and a RCA to 1/8" jack and run a simple audio recording program. i did this a few times with FS 1.5 until i found my Mini Disk. the sound cards are fairly cheap on Ebay and they sound good.

Oh yeah, I meant 1/8 inch jack instead of 1/4 inch in my previous posts.

DJ Synystr- Im trying to follow---You mean run a simple recording App in the background that records from the 1/8inch jack? I was doing that with Audacity, but the audio would drop out from time to time. I guess i need to find a simpler recording app:)

skutch, yeah, sorry, I was a bit rude. Its just that I thought noone was reading my points, so I assumed I didnt hurt anyone with being rude ;-)

No seriously, you should read what audio hijack is for, its not that kind of audio recorder, it will capture audio inside your OS software wise, not from an external source. If you put it into your mac externally, you need anything which records the audio and playit back and then audio hijack would be able to capture it. That is the way I understand audio hijack. If this is the case, it makes absolutely no sense using audio hijack.

Correct me if I am wrong.

(BTW I didnt say you were dumb. But reading is a benefit for all of us ;-) )

Skutch, i run PC not MAC so i hope my info will work for you. if you use a seperate device like a USB, or PCMCIA i would suggest the PCMCIA Sound Card over the usb, you shouldn't have those audio drop outs. that could be because the signal is being processed and cause the gaps. i know when i had a slow ass PC for audio recording in my studio it would do this if it was running low on resources. once i got a fast pc i havent had any issues of audio drop out. i haven't checked out the program mentioned because im not on MAC. this was just another option to try. serach Ebay for PCMCIA sound card or USB sound card. hope this helps.

nik39 consider us kissed and madeup:)

what i'll do for now is record over to my pc desktop
Thx Synystr --I'm off to ebay!

I opened a can of worms here eh? Sorry mates.

I should have asked:

"Does Audio Hijack allow you to record from other applications (not SSL) without needing to route your audio back into your computer via sound card)?" ;) lol and kisses :)

Back to the original topic for a second.. I looked at the FS2 forums today.. Looks like this whole firewire thing isnt working out too well for them. It also seems like people have switched from FS1&FS2 to SSL but no one has switched from SSL to FS2. SSL definitely seems like its earning some market share (can the SSL guys tell us how sales are doing?)

Anyway, initially FS2 had caught my eye and made me curious, but now I am feeling more and more confident with SSL.. and once there are a couple interface/organization improvements in SSL I will be completely satisfied. Happy New Year!

wow I missed a lot in this discussion...I understand what Nik and Rev is saying and you guys are right there is no point now that you brought it to my attention....

as for the iMic solution it works fine but if you have a line in jack on your laptop then you could just use that if you wanted to.. I don't like the iMic much because of the USB either.. the PCMCIA solution is best for PC users in my opinion unless they have built-in Firewire?....I bought a Firewire 410 a while ago for my PB so I might just use that instead of my line in jack for better audio quality...



yes it does Shaun. To answer your question. :)

Yeah. Funny enough ex-FS-forum moderator nemonic and others were claiming how superiour firewire is compared to USB, and now we can read excuses like "oh, look at RME and other manufacturers, they also suffer from bad FW card implemenations. Its not the client manufacturer faults". Very funny. Not funny for FS owners. Check this thread here www.native-instruments.com and a couple of other threads over there. And then we see how customers ask for help regarding a FS2 problem, and what response to they get? A copy and paste answer... for FS1.5 problems.


I only read about one dude selling his SSL, but he also owned and sold FS2 before, he thinks its not stable enough.


Would be interesting, no doubt...

Now he's calling nik rude. The master of politeness! ;)

Weird thing someone would sell their SSL. I would never do that...Semper Fi, everyone!

Still dont know what program to use for recording my sets.
Is this Audio Hijack ok or not? :)
Does it record sound from soundcard inputs? :)

Szalony Wariat---give Audacity a try let me know how it works for you. Just google it..Its free.
plus you can re-edit and re-pitch re-whatever any music files.
the two problems i had running this app under SSL were a couple dropouts and the visual displays were a bit wacky. Buffer size had no effect.

Szalony AH works with sound card inputs! I use it and have no problems at all with it. If you have questions about it let me know through email or private message.

Alex, so I was wrong about audio hijack, right?

no Nik I agreed with you...I wasn't thinking straight when I was writing that post I put up about recording SSL internally....I even tried it and I get no signal anyway in AH to record my SSL sets. I wish it did but it doesn't.

But you can record SSL through an Internal/External soundcard with AH successfully....I hope this clears up all the confusion finally! :)

It's because of crap like this ( Taken straight from Final Crap support website



Maybe Microsoft should buy NI ....

hahaha

that's hillarious.

And its not like this was an exception, their support(line) sucks at best, support guy knos sh!t about their product, even I knew more about FS than he did. He was trying to convince me that theres no DA-converter in the FS amp as the whole signal is digital, and believe me, he meant it that way, his native language is german as well as mine.

Hehe ;-)

Some one please send that fool this thread!

LOL, Shaun ;)

lol --- lol

Talk about bumping threads, s42000...LOL!

Gotta look out for the newbies :) ...... seems like every 28 days 1000 folks join up.

i wants to do the swatch too like you also.

What's Up soon-2-be-ex-FS2user ! Happy belated New Years yo :)