I thought it hides when you scroll tracks?

I think its Group + B6 F/X

theres the hide panel and show panel
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ok i just read the latest manual from Rane.com

Expand Library on Track Scroll
With this option turned on (checked), The harware panel will hide temporarily while you are using the mixer to scroll through your library.


gotta try that one out later

got it.

yep it works!

Ability to:
Assign Full Left Pan and Full Right Pan to the Joystick
Assign Flex FX toggle to the footswitch
Assign Effect on to user groups 1 and 2 and the footswitch
Assign loop edit point to the joystick in user groups 1 and 2
Assign the effect BPM lock to the master bus
Assign a button to toggle through multiple pre-defined footswitch groups, so you can assign and acess more footswitch controls without changing groups.

Effects:
Auto Pan- pretty straight forward
Pitch Echo- abilty to half the current bpm to make longer effect times, ability to go below 80 bpm, ability to asign values to b1-b6 ie: 1/4, 1/8/, 1/2, 1, 4, 8, etc. . . This would allow for 16 beat non-degrading echo loops.
Bit Crusher/Flanger/Distortion- pretty straight forward, it would be nice if this could be contained in one module so you could have a coupe effects at once.

Other Stuff:
When scrolling the library with the auto hardware panel hide turned on, make the pause before the hardware panel returns longer, if I stop scrolling and try to read a few, it goes away too fast.

Make the aux bus cue-able pre fader (in this case knob) so that we can basically have a 3 channel mixer.

Make an option to set the center posisition of the joystick to music off, and any of the other 8 directions on. So basically it will be like a reverse switch for the transform. That way there will be a "flare" style transform.

That is all I have for now. . . More latter!

Oh ya. . . Pong with the joysticks!!

good lord did you miss anything? lol

ya, I made it as a second post for pong... ;)

would like to request pitch bend to be assignable on the joystick.

prefer to use the joystick to bend instead of knobs
and can we assign 8 things on the joystick?

4 with lights off
4 with lights on

Then you would loose transforming? Maybe make this an option in the hardware panel?

On your other idea, I would like to see most of the knob options availible on the joystick, although I don't know how easy that would be. . .

You can use cross fader to transform ;)

I should have explained it better.
I was just experimenting without any players
Just internal mode and the mixer.
Since the joysticks are spring loaded (i.e. goes back to the same position) this would be great for temporary pitch bend
The knobs are a bit awkward on doing the pitch bending and even adjusting the pitch.

if i can use the joystick ,up or down, for pitch bend and
Left or right, for adjusting the pitch, I think mixing internally would be alot smoother.

Along that note I would like to see us be able to choose which groups it displays, and make all 6 of them custom if we want. For example:

If I am playing with a band, I only use one turntable, so I would want to make a custom tab that had internal controls for playing internal samples on the right, effect acess, and the left joystick set up exclusively for transform tecniques. But this Group would be retarded when playing at the club, or when working on a mixtape, where I would want record controls in the same group as say effects, and library.

I think it would be nice to save profiles exactly how you want them, then only load them when you need them.

but you cant execute helicopter switch teniques with it, besides I am not talking about regular transforms, I am hella funky style on my fader transforms anyways, the switch feels weird for that. . .

yeah djk is the king those are very important points, especially the footswitch-fx-thing, the aux cue and pitch bending with the joystick (can´t understand why rane forgot this)...
what about the "ttm57-as-rc20-thing"??? this is very important, too!
like mentioned in the other thread split-cue would be a nice feature but not as important as the others for me...

i think i would like a vocoder-effect very much...

I don't think they forgot, I think they wated to get a working 57 version out to users because they knew a) We wanted it in any form we could get it and b) they could change this stuff latter, once they got a large number of dj's feedback and ideas on how people want things done. That is why threads like this are important, and also why Rane makes the best products right now- they are user defined.

MODS

Huge issue, the "lock playing deck" feature does not work when I load a song with the knobs! This is huge because I like to have the left one as undo, and the right one as load, so if I forget to switch the virtual deck I am droping it on the "hot" table!

right! but they could have imagined that the users want to turn the fx on/off with the footpedal, for example :p

BTw, I have posted two suggestions about the TTM57 in the normal area, as I dont think its a good idea to discuss all ideas in one thread.

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Good call, I am gonna do that too. . . That way each one can get the attention ad descusion needed. I left off Aux cue because the mods already are talking to us about it, and the effects have been covered before.

Lock Playing Deck:
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Assign:
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Library Scroll:
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Flare Switch:
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What i also liked on the 56 thats different on the 57 is the FlexFX switches. I would rather have switches than buttons. Just my preference. Plus its hard to find the FlexFX button in the dark =/

The reason for the buttons is that they are digital, this gives more options. With a different firmware it would be possible to do things like linking the two buttons together so you could turn both on or off with just one button. Or to control them with the footswitch.

i'll second split-cue

for the echo effect:

any way we can "punch" in for the fx? and keep it going? say i only want a snare or certain phrase to echo while a song is still playing..

instead of 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4
1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4
1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4


i'd like 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4
2 2 2 2 2 2 2
2 2 2 2 2 2 2

somethin like that....can ya understand what i'm tryin to get across?

aw poop....that didn't come out right....shoulda used the "preview"....

i see
they need to make selecting deck to be momentary or on
currently when you hit B1 to deselect the deck echo also turns off

I think i got what youre thinkin

You can assign the echo to the aux/flexfx/mic section. Then hit the FlexFX button on the channel which will feed the echo just for the time the FlexFX button is on. Is that what you guys mean?

yah

but it still has to be a momentary button
cuz you still have to double click turn on and turn off quick
but thats what i think skinnyguy wants

Gotcha.

ohh...so it's possible already? i have yet to keep practicing/experimenting...i installed 1.6 like a few hours before using it at a gig.

I think the joystick has 8 positions. Might be hard to catch all 8 but that woulld make 16 (8on 8off)

I think the diagonal would be WAY to hard to hit what you want, and having it do somthing your not expecting is VERY bad when playing live...

Diagonal is indeed hard to hit, so I would suggest not to make it as a default option, but for those tough hard guys+gals... why not?

nik & xtrodanaire - yep! that's what i wanted! tried it out and it works! gotta get the timing down a bit and it's pretty cool! i think i overdid it on my mixshow and club gig last nite tho...hehehe..

maybe if we can make the flex fx button a non-latchable option? like how the eq kills have the option?

oh yea, i'll second pitch bend with the joystick too

To solve (satisfy) most of the joystick requests, the Directionals should be assignable to actions just like the the buttons and knobs.... Right-click, select from dropdown. maybe one for each of the 8 directions?

You can already do this for four of the directions, it's just that certain functions are only available buttons, knobs or joysticks.

Is there a way shortcut or cue button that will bring the track back to the beginning in REL mode even when no cue points are set? I also don't want this all the time, just sometimes. If not I would like to suggest this.

Use the temp cue, thats by default group one, J1 to right for left deck and J2 to left for right deck.

Also, if your still on it in the library, just reload it.

When I reload it doesn't bring it back to the start? Also, Nik the point is I don't want to have set any cue. I wanna get to the start quickly. Right now I am going back to ABS mode to get to the start, takes forever.

Yaz, give it a try. You *dont* have to set any cue point. By default the temp cue point (read the manual) points to the beginning of a track. As said, try it out, use the function I have quoted in my previous post.

I also doubt that reloading resets the play position.

Here's how I would do my custom group 3:
This needs to be tested first as I don't know how well the joysticks would work as scrolling through crates and tracks.

Make these changes:
J1/J2 Up/Down - scroll tracks (selectable for left or right deck or selected deck)
Press down on J1/J2 mode, up/down - scroll crates (selectable for left or right deck or selected deck)

Change the set, tmp and Play button to only Play/Pause button and a real CUE button like on a Denon S1000 CD Deck.
That way when you press the Play/Pause button again it marks a temp cue point and then when you press the real CUE button it makes
that tmp cue point and you can hold down that button to test it repeatedly and when you let go of that button it stops at the tmp cue point. So all
you need to do is press the Play/Pause button and it plays from the start of that tmp cue mark and the song continues on.

If you have "play from start" checked it will, try it out, I use this method all the time when trying to get to the beggining after beat matching.

ok, thanks!

OK, I read something wrong, never mind. :-)

I was thinking, (does't happen often but this time I was) I know Apple doesnt want iTunes content to run on anything other than iTunes (software and hardware) but since purchased songs are already running on iTunes, they know they are not getting ripped off. Why don't they just open up a little. Or could Serato (in the distant future) be able to use protected content after some kind of authentication process? (provided that is the reason Apple is concerned with)