I used it and took it back, didn't like the pad part to switch between videos. I picked up the xsession and can actually use all the knobs and faders

i use the nano-pad with 1.1 and love it. i like pushing a button to switch videos. it's a matter of preference.

just curious how u switch between vid effects?

i map two buttons on opposite sides of the nano-pad to auto cross fade between the two videos. you can set the length of time of the auto fade under the settings menu. so when you're mixing all you need to do is hit a button. this works great with the grid effects, but not much else. personally i only like the grid effects, so there you go.

im using the nano pad, and have nano kontrol, both are very cool.

i do wish that they would replace the pad on the nano pad and throw some knobs in there. that would be xtra cool :)

sure would I'd go back to using it

i use the nano kontrol and i couldnt imagine using the nano pad, the combination of knobs, faders and buttons are crucial.... you can literally manipulate all 4 video effects at once! u map the auto crossfade as well as the auto crossfade speed to a knob. by the way the nano kontrol has more triggers than the nano pad......just remember to buy the extra warranty..... they are made cheap

+1 one useing nano kontrol

I also have a VSL Korg nanoKontrol set up and it's great. All video midi functions are mapped along with a few other things

+1 nanokontrol

my nanokontrol is in the mail....wiz show me how to use it mother!

yo i just got back from my bros hes got all the toys, after these two nano controls bite the dust, im definitely gettin a novation zero..... i was even lookin at the novation nocturn(dont even use the nano faders), made very well, solid, unlike the nano...... but for 100 more just get the zero, its rediculus, im waitin for the mk2 to come down in price though...... www.novationmusic.com
www.novationmusic.com

Can someone provide an idea (or video) of what they had the nanokrol mapped to and how the scenes are set up?

Looks a lot better than the nano.

the nano feels like a pile of s@#t next to it... lol

well.. i will tell u, the reason i like nano so much is the size, its the same size from side to side as my djm 800..(12 and half inches) it fits right in with what i am trying to do.

only thing it needs is knobs instead of the control pad.. or faDERS

the right size, the buttons feel good, i cant complain. and its cheap :)

True, but you are comparing a $200 and a $400 -500 controller that take up more room to a $60 controller that sits right in front of your laptop.

If cost and size are a factor, the Korg nano series are great controllers but that ZeRO SL Mk II dooes look pretty sweet.

Please can someone post a video of mapping the VSL with nano kontrol.
i love the size of the nano cause it fits with all the other stuff i have in my dj bag with out bulk.

Map it to what you think is comfortable for your style. That's the great thing about mapping your own shit.

ill try to post a vid later this week, im really busy...... its really simple though, i basically set it up how the 57 group 1 (but with vid effects).... so the left side of the nano controls the left decks effects , and the same for the right.... and the center strip on the nano controls the crossfader effect...... since you only have 2 vid effects per side, it leaves alot of options for how to map the others......

if you are asking to see HOW to map midi controlls in SSL it's really very easy... just check your manual.

If you want ideas on setting up controls, Itchie is right, it's best to set it up how YOU think is comfortable and makes the most sense to YOU... kind of like how everybody would orginize their record collection back in the day (if you were a DJ before the Scratch Live days) Everybody had their own system that made sense to THEM.

Here's a link to one of my VSL/Korg nanoKONTROL set ups for what works for me.
[IMG]i59.photobucket.com[/IMG]

Nano would be perfect if we could map the loops already made. That's the only thing I would like to do that I can't with it. FYI all my hit songs where in the long milk crate wit the hot stuff up front. The rest in the small crates. DJBIGWIZ you had me thinking bout the old days...Dang,,, how things have changed.

You can map buttons or a knob to scroll through your pre made loop positions (1,2,3 etc...) and map a button to trigger the loop on and off.

haha.. hell yeah... no more late night milk crate runs

Yeah I don't miss those damn crates at all. I thought I tried that I guess I will give it another go again.

Funkytownspotsix,

you need to hold down Alt/Option when you click on the "loop" button to assign it so that it will turn on the loop AND jump to it at the same time.

If you just click on
"loop" and then hit your midi pad, it will only assign it to turn the loop on but not jump to the start of it.

then, just assign a coulpe of pads to scroll through the loop positions and your good to go/

I don't understand but it looks like you put a lot of thought into it.

I meant to write "I don't understand it but it looks like you put a lot of thought into it".

i understand... makes sense to me, the only way ur gonna make light of this, is if u do it urself...

I'll have my son do it.

Thanks DJBIGWIZ that does make sense, I thought wrong by thinking I can assign/map the button by just clicking on it. Now that you told me that I will be using my nano all the time. My loops are important to me. Well I got to get it to work first I will try it this afternoon when I get home. I asked so many people about this and they all said it couldn't be done. THANKS

no doubt mang... if you still have any problems with setting it up, PM me.

Big Wiz,
Thanks for showing your layout.

I’m assuming that everything we see there is in one scene and you can put cues, samples and other things on the other scenes.

right, that is just the scene for VSL.. there are still 3 scenes/banks available. I have cues on one, loops on another and one for the SP-6... I also have things like censor, scroll, tab focus, load decks, instant doubles etc... assigned

Kool,
I'm going to look into returning my Nanokeys and getting the NanoKontrol.

I think the Konrol is better as you have more options.

Better than the other two at least becasue of the knobs... : )

Thanks BIGWIZ just what i was looking for!!
your great help gonna try the set up tonight!

DjBIGWiz I could not get my pre-made loops to load. I can get them to scroll with the knob but as far as starting a loop that has already been made ......NOT. I am using a mac any help would be greatly appreciated.

Funky, I sent you a PM

BIGWIZ you think you can make a video and let us see how you work with it??

^^ +1

I'll try to get something up (no promises here) It won't be in the next few days though... my schedule over the next week is very busy but when I get some free time, I may try to do something... are cats having trouble mapping midi of what exactly do you need to see? midi mapping in SSL is VERY easy and if you are looking for ideas of whaty to map, my best advice is to do it yourself because everybody has their own style... What works for me may not be whats nest for you... figure out what you want to do or control and look at your controller and how it's laid out and what would be the most logical mapping for how you spin... that way, it's custome made for YOU by you. I'll still try to film something if cats really wanna se it but I just gave the best advice I can give right there.

Big Wiz,
I just wanted to see how you have yours mapped and see if it works for my son (I don't mix anymore). Whatever doesn't work, he can then change himself.

yo that picture of the nanokontroll is more informative than any vid i can make, different than my setup but basically a similar concept

Regarding the Korg NanoKontrol...
Only thing is I notice when you restart SL some of the midi assignments I saved have to be re-assigned, do you have this problem?

NanoKontrol FTW! i can't imagine using video efx without it.

twizzle my nizzle.

So, is the nanokontrol better than the nanopad?

well, the nano pad doesn't have knobs so it'd be hard to control efx with that.

I think so because you can scroll with the knobs for efx's then press a button to turn on and another button to bypass and you still have a fader to assign.That's just one row only problem I see is that it don't look as cool.
Although you have scenes u have more buttons and knobs on a Nanokotrol than a nanopad...Anyway,,,DJBIGWIZ showed me how to assign my pre-made loops so I am totally satisfied with nanokontorl. To be honest one of the best things I have brought for slv next to my short throw projector.

Since there are no buttons on the kontrol how do you use it for loops and the like. cue points I still use the 57, but I don't like swapping groups and pressing buttons in the dark on the 57

Simply assign a loop to the top pad and on the bottom assign it as bypass. you could put loops on another secne. but to me that's like changing groups on 57 but a little eaiser.

you would have a problem with picking loops,,,...I forgot to say that you might have more than 1 loop which means assingments. With knobs you can scroll through loops don't think it can be done on nano but on nanokntroll no problem.

the nanoKONTROL has 24 buttons on it that can be assigned to 4 groups/scenes which equal a total of 96 buttons plus 9 sliders/faders and 9 knobs (x4) =36 faders and knobs

I didn't see the buttoms, I just saw them on the nano pad.
I'll look again.

Where's the best place to get the nano kontrol?

Wow, thats more than enough. I'm tossing this MPD16 and grabbing a NanoKontrol. Good looking on the info yall.

NanoKontrol is sick! I shoulda copped this thing a long time ago. $40.

man, i ordered one on ebay for 2 weeks ago from djdeals.com and still hasn't come yet....i'm dieing to use this! i got screwed the last 2 purchases on ebay. bought an edirol v4 that never came after a month (got a refund) and now this nanokontrol over 2 weeks....f'in pissed!

heh
djdeals.com is another one of those that take forever, u just gotta go with the people u know..

just got my nanokontrol. i was using an oxygen 8 before...
this thing will make things waaaaay easier!!

i could just eat it up.

it's just soooo cute and little and precious!!

been using it with bigwiz layout and it is great!!!!!!
thanks BIGWIZ!

yeah man, no doubt.

Same here BIGWIZ thank you for that!
One thing thought BigWiz to set vid left and right on mine it lights up as it would add it but it doesn't really work. the midi part works great but when I actually wanna use it i see it light on the computer screen but it doesnt really add the video to the song =/.

Anybody wants to share their settings on the other scenes?

piojo,
are you trying to load a video track onto the deck by pressing SET VIDEO?

What set video does is, say you have a regular mp3 or wav that doesn't have any video attached to it and you have a video clip you load to the video screen to play with that audio track... if you press SET VIDEO, it will associate that video file with that audio file so that every time you load that audio file, the video clip you assigned will automatically load with it.

Yes That's what i'm trying to do but it doesn't work. On the screen the word "set video" flashes when I press it on the korg kontrol but it doesn't add the video to the mp3 song =/

it wont manually add the video to the song. You still have to drag the video clip to the video window using the mouse... al that button does is connect the two (audio file and the video file) so that next time you load that audio track, that video will then automatically load with it.

Did I miss a link to get BigWiz's mapping, or is it a super secret hush hush thing.

you missed it.. scroll up a bit :)

Is it the photobucket pic you posted?

yeah, thats it

nanokontrol works great and just save your setting and anytime you make changes save them then just delete the ones you dont like...DJBIGWIZ I like your mapping, I may try that, I have been using the last 3 faders for my library and loops, but you cant beat the price of the kontrol, I bought 2 one for backup...

big you still gonna make that video?

I don't know man... it seems like everybody's pretty much gotten it. If people just don't understand how to assign midi in SSL, Konix has some great tutorials posted here www.serato.com and one of them already shows how to set midi in SSL (which couldn't be any easier) So I think it would be a little redundant to show me assigning the cahnnel 1 video fader to the channel 1 Kontroller fader when it's all right there in the layout if people just take the time to look at it.

dammmmmn this nanokontrol is the f'in shit! but how the hell am i going to memorize all the functions & what they are assigned to!

Dumb question,
Can you assign the midi without being plugged into the 57.
Is it worth buying it on friday and going to a gig that night.
Can you set it up quickly.
Not my 57, so I won't have access to it until the nighttime.

no, SSL needs to be open to assign midi weather it's through the 57, SL1, SL3 or MP4.
It's very easy and quick to assign midi in SSL.
It's worth it if you know what you want to do with it and know how to set it up.. like if you just want to set up so you can trigger cue points of auto loops or censors etc... it's gonna be easy and workt it... if you are trying to set up a whole video midi control layout, it may not be worht it for that night because that is a lot of controls to remember and you want to make sure your controller can handel what you are trying to accomplish with it.

All I would want real quick for video would be loops, effects and whatever else is easy to setup for a night with video.
Not the full setup as of now.

I personally like to set up and test my gear and settings before I'm actually at a gig just in case there are some factors I didn't account for... I don't want to have to problem solve while I'm spinning if I don't have to

Daddydog(love the mixes), BIGWIZ just showed us how he had his and I am sure it's the best way for him to remember. If you do it your way trust me you will remember but you better play with it so you can remember. I have no markings of any kind and I know where everything is. By the way much love to BIGWIZ who helped me get my loops on my nanokontrol...Even though I have a TTM57 it's still cool to put my premade loops on it. If it can do it I want to do it.... Thanks again WIZ. FYI the reason I wanted the loops on it was because I have a usb extender so I can set down at a table and control my stuff with it my boy was tripping on that. Only issue is being able to see videos you pic I have to zoom in on the screen and make play list larger.. other than that I am getting a recliner to take to my parties cause that all im going to need is a recliner and a nanokontroller.

Funky, no prob bro, glad it's all workin out!

Exactly, that's what i keep trying to get accross to people, do what makes sense for them... that way it's easier to remember.

yeah man, i use Big Wiz's layout as a template. i definitely made changes and made my own scenes. i have to write down or draw a map i can reference so i know where each item is assigned. but to everyone one on this forum...i highly advise getting a nanokontrol to access features easily....i can easily apply 2 effects with one hand! btw which cannot be done with a 57 alone.

play with it and you will deff. remember everything just like when serato first came out i was like whoa how am i gonna ever remember all these commands and shorcuts but know its just like second nature to me..
MUCH LOVE TO BIG WIZ for helping this thread out!!!

i like the nanokontrol, but the nanopad is the way for me, i use the nanopad more simply for the cue points and loop roll, not for video, i let the pioneer djm 800 do the that for me...

my nano kontrol...some buttons or pots seem to knock work in different scenes.

for instance in scene 3 the top knobs at channels 4 and 5 will not assign midi.
anybody else having any issues similar to this?

yeah...something like that is happening to me too. i just thought i wasn't doing something right, being i just got it yesterday and haven't figured it out.

I was trying to set-up my friends trigger finger and I had similar issues with assigning the rotary controls on it (the pads worked fine)

any pointers would be good

Hummm.... way to control video effects with the pad?
www.djtechtools.com

tomato and daddydog.... did you install the drivers from the cd? it should work.....

hmmm... not sure why, if it's a Korg thing, a SSL issue or just on certain laptop specs.

you can use the Kontrol editor software to change the CC# or midi note # that each knob, fader, button is transmitting... set ot to different # but make sure that CC# or midi note # is not set to any other button. Each function you want to control needs to have it's own number... just like a key on a piano can't play more than 1 note. This may involve some reading and learning on your part so here's a link to the Kontrol Editor manual:

Kontrol Editor Manual korg.com

and here is a link to the software:

Kontrol Editor korg.com

Scroll Down almost to the bottom to Kontrol Editor then choose for MAC or PC
you may also want to grab the latest usb midi drivers right under there

...... on the software download link, click the DOWNLOADS tab first, then scroll down almost to the bottom for the software

naw, not really. i can just use an ox8 for that or they keyboard.



just noticed one particular button works in scene 2 but not send 1.

also, weird thing here...that issue with knobs 4 and 5 not working in scene 3 has happened on 2 different kantrols.

Mine was doing the same thing for a pad. I just used a different scene.


Wiz! Thanks for the info on this. Few questions.


1. Can you adjust the speed of the rotary knobs? Seems like mine are really sensitive?

2. Where do you put the Kontrol when doing a set? I have mine set up on a Uberstand over the right table, comp over left.

I'd have to play with the settings... not sure how much the speed can be adjusted.
I'll let you know if I come up with something for this.

I have mine on a stand over the mixer. (where people usually put their laptop... I just like having my laptop off the the right.

Word, thank you.

D, you can adjust it to a certain extent. You need to use the Korg Kontrol Editor software and change the Upper/Right value of the knob. (leave the lower/left value set to 0)
there are 51 possible effects so the upper value needs to be set to AT LEAST 51. This will, with twisting the knob from full left to full right go completley through the effects list 1 time ie. from "x" back to "x" BUT, it is still sensitive so if you twist it real fast, it will lose some of the info and stop short of going all the way through the list so don't twist it TOO fast.
If you were to set the lower and upper values say 5 steps apart, it would only scroll up or down by 5 which would make it very slow but since there are 51 effects and such a short distance from right to left on the knob, it's gonna go through 'em all pretty quick. It's goping really fast now because the upper value is at (or probably at) 127 so twisting the knob hard left to hard right, is gonna go through the list 3+ times.
If this dos not make sense, PM me.

Yo! Got it. Good lookin out.

if you look in the dictionary and look for Korg Kontorl expert there would be a picture DJBIGWIZ.... :)

Thanks again man. Works perfect.

hahaha.. I thought it was under creative insomniac with too much free time.



no prob man.. glad it's working.

could someone maybe post up a vid of this thing in action? the nano kontrol?

so i finally got around to taking some pics of this mod that i did to my case.. check it out..
i took a music book stand, broke it down.. was about the use the back of it, then said fuck it and went to a metal shop and had the laptop holder made....

i liek this cuz it takes less than a min to put on

but heres some pics, check it out...

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i like the fact that i can seperate the macbook from the nano pads

i get to lean it anyway i want...
its quick and simple to put together and take apart..
i get a little more room in the djm800 case to put more wires and other stuff

only thing i wish i did is had the slanting piece welded towards the left side, that way i can put my sl-1 inside, it kinda just hangs out right now...
be better if it was actually in the case itself

Thats nice. I've been having issues with my Korg setup. This looks promising.

nice like the ideas

is anyone else having problems saving your scenes? i save them under the midi=>save tab but the next time i open serato a few of the mappings are missing. any advice?

I have both the nano pad AND the nano Knotrol AND a 57.. I find it too confusing to try and switch between groups and scene's. Especially when working fast it just to easy to make a mistake by pressing the right button but being in the worng scene..

Anyhow, here are the 2 issues I have:

1. When I assign a knob/fader to select a transition/effect the scroll speed in serato is just to fast so it takes me longer to actually select the transiotn/effect I want.. Any way of controlling this?

2. I can't seem to map the knob that controls the effect paramaters to Midi... is there a work around?

Dog, which ones are missing and what do you have them mapped to (fader, knob or button) and which CC#(s) are the controls assigned to? is it the same ones every time?
If you have this info, it might help.

Makes sense.. sounds kind of techy but I will give it a try. Thanks:)

Was anybody able to map a midi knob to the effects paramaters knob in video SL?

Makes sense.. sounds kind of techy but I will give it a try. Thanks:)

Was anybody able to map a midi knob to the effects paramaters knob in video SL?

Yeah, you gotta assign 2 pads to select, use knob to scroll effects.

Thanks Demon, but not what I mean...

I mean can you assign a midi knob to control how strong the effect will be? (NOT to scroll and select effects)

make sense?

yes

How?

When I can't see it as an option when I click the midi assign button in serato.

you gotta have the video section up when you go into midi mode

I do!

The options I get are just to SELECT effects, but not to control how WET/DRY they will be.. which is something I can only seem to do with my 57.

Does this make sense or should I upload a photo of what I mean?

Should work. Same knob that I select filters with adjusts the filter itself.

that makes sense! will give it a go, thanks Demon :)

No Prob



I agree. I'm going to look into changing the color of the l.e.d. light on the scenes.

I did mine as a layout to stick on the stuff. So, this is the link to check it
s102.photobucket.com
Thx BIGWIZ to gave me the idea.

thanks for these.

Hey WIZ,

do you have layout graphics for your other midi controllers, curious as to how your sampler is set up

Law, good job man... that's dope.

Cowboy, I don't have any as detailed as that... I make templates and sketch ideas a lot but I plan on making some more like I did for the VSL layout. I'll post 'em up when I get a chance to get 'em done if cats are interested.

i'm having a problem using the sliders to control the "effect bypass" button sliding it from bottom to top will toggle it on and off several times, and to top it off you never know whether it will end up on or off when it reaches the top or bottom. I've tried adjusting the values but i haven't been able to come up with the proper settings. anyone have the solution to this.

I tried using the sliders for by passed and had the same problem because,each time in increase or decrease it goes one notch to bypass and next notch will turn it back on how accurate can you be,,,,not very. Use buttons to bypass no knobs or sliders.

that is, unless you set it correctly. ;)



Did you try setting the upper/right value to 64 and the lower/left value to 0?
I guessing no... give it a try.

thank you!

u got me great king king of Nano.... u are correct....I recant my statment above.

hahahahaha... great king king of Nano hahahah sounds like some Monty Python shit.

It was more like land of the lost.

ah.. I aint seen it yet, any good?

well, at least it wasn't more like the hangover!

In the land of the lost you would be Enick he was the very smart Sleee Stack that could talk and knew all the ways of the universe. Kinda like you know this damn nano.

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Not the new one but when I was a kid I watch all of the ones that came on tv. To be honest if not for clay animation of dinosaur it would be a hit today who ever was writing for that show had foresight and imagination that would apply today. The new one is a comedy and that's far for the original one so I won't be going to see it. Just like that Speed Racer they seem to mess up all my child shows... Anyway Nano rules.

I finally use the nanokontrol on saturday night, much easier than trying to do shit with the 57's dark buttons.

Even though I got the black nano kontrol, but it looks sweet.

Dumb question time.
Ok i am using a nano kontrol(big wiz style)
with the technics sh-mz1200 mixer
ok the DUMB question is
is the fader only for video or can i midi assign it some how that the fader will control the audio and video. so i dont have to lower channel 1 for left side and lower channel 2 for right side.

any info will help
untill i get my 57 which will be in about 2 weeks the ends are adding up

Short answer, no.


BUT... if you spin in internal mode, you could assign the gain knob of each deck to a fader and use that as you would the channel fader on a mixer. Alos, if you have a midi controller like the nanoPad with a x/y axis controller, you could assign the gain of each deck in a way it could work as a cross fader. I wouldn't really consider doing this myself but it is a workaround. I don't think you will be able to midi assign the gain knobs and the video fader all to 1 mide control though. (I think there may be a way but I'd have to test my idea and it would not be a easy, practical or reccommended way of doing it even IF I could get it to work.

has anybody had a problem where a certain button or slider can't be assign on scratch live??
I have a problem with the slider 3 on scene 3 and check the korg editor software and it says that it is enabled but for some reason it doesn't work. I've heard some people having the same issue but nobody has really helped them out. please if u know a work around let me know thanks!

thanks wiz!

try changing the CC# on the slider in Korg editor and see if that worls (make sure it's not set to the same CC# as another fader, button or knob when you change it)

Thank you DJ Bigwiz! You solved my problem!

no prob man.. glad it worked

is there a program to bpm music video like mix miester does mp3??

not sure how MM works but if you analyze your videos in SSL just like you do your music only files, it will set the bpm for you just like it does the audio files. (if there is audio with your video that is)

thanks wiz1

great thread, i just got the kontrol...

Ill get a video like my nanopad video up soon....
I got it mostly for the new sp1.9.1 and video

any suggestions on how to set the upper right for the faders...
I did the knobs to 0/64 (as suggested...)
but to use the faders as SP6 pitch adjust they need to be pretty fine.

I put them on 64, we'll see how that goes.

I hit a brick wall here...

no matter what I do, all my scenes are set the same...
Im looking for an answer, but I dont know why the Kontrol is doing this.
the nano pad never did.

scrolling through the scenes does nothing.

helps?

use the kontrol editor software to change the midi cc#'s or midi channels
on the different scenes

yeah...I was trying to do that...
basically i had to load the default scenes template that comes with the download

the problem i ran into was having 127 ccs
and there are 168 total surfaces.
in group 4 i had to start using notes...
and there were about 10 ccs that just did not work...dont know why
I had to go in and put in out of sequence numbers to get them to work.

IE scene 2 cc # 55 I had to change to 126 for it to work.

try using the same cc# but transmitting that chanel strip on a different midi cahnnel

This shit has become really deep.. : ) Will Nano King get his disciples on the right track? Stay tuned to the next episode of Nano King to find out. Same Nano Place same Nano Time.

Watchwww.youtube.com

sorry bout the quality

hahahahahahahaha... thats funny

VSL/nanokontrol Bypass Toggle Trick

Watchwww.youtube.com

that would roock if the quick load would work for me!!!
i need to have a load button...(for now!)

Has anyone seen these yet?
www.skratchworx.com

Wow they look cool as hell!

it looks like the knobs rotate 7pm to 5pm on those too.

a company need to make one with a knob fro scrolling.

How about using a i pad to control video effect!!! with the 62 anyone?

eloy has a post out there in which he helps people that want to use in ipad.
whether you can apply it to the 62 or not idk.

serato.com