Because then people would only buy the dongle and not the controller, mixer or SL box.

True,but Serato is a software company who should be concentrating on their software being easily compatible with the hardware out in the field.

This is what happens she you hit the pipe for breckfast

Exactly, so why are you asking them to make hardware......

The soundcard IS the dongle...
You would still need a way to separate the time code signal and the line signal as well as convert the analog & digital sources in/out of the computer. What you want doesn't make sense and wouldn't make anything easier.

It's doesn't need a dongle. It has a serial number

LOL, try doing a mix without a controller, Certified Mixer, or SL box. SMH...

Yes I know that, but you you just had a dongle to access the software, you'd still use the CDJ audio output as the audio signal was still coming from the software via the USB cable.

Keep it simple stupid.... Buy the hardware, play the music. It doesnt need to be anymore complicated than that.

I would say if you wanna get away from hooking up a RANE box just go buy the Numark controller shaped like an iPad. My buddie has one and he loves the thing. You can check mixes, set cue points basically everything but really scratch a track.

Sure it's not exactly what you want but you could sit on a plane and mix away, or sit on a bus or the back sit of a car ( I've done that with Numark DJ2GO on a rode trip to Virginia Beach). The footprint is small an it is functional.

Hey fool, I already have an SX, but in most venues there isn't space in the DJ box, hence my question.

How is making a dongle complicating things?
You have a dongle that activates the software & 2 USB cables to connect to the CDJ's. What's difficult about that?

Smh. Doesn't understand the point of the ops question. Lol

Considering the fact Serato originally were making software to minimise carrying equipment to a gig, it always seems funny to me when people are taking controllers to clubs that have a CD/TT/Mixer setup.
A dongle has been suggested many a time, especially with CDJs that could then route the audio. I'd expect the real reason is that it'd be much easier to be pirated if all the software required was an 'unlock dongle' if all it was doing was making the computer think the software was 'activated'

I'm the fool? Lmao.... Ok if you say so.

Obviously you didnt get the memo, theyve created a dongle, its called an SL1 SL2 SL3 and SL4.

Yes I know about the SL boxes, if you read my question I mentioned it.
I meant a dongle that's small like flash drive so that it's compact & you won't need all the RCA's also.

So how would the music get from the laptop to the mixer?

So pretty much you want an 1/8" out setup like virtual dj.

Just get virtual dj then.

The way im understanding it, he just wants to use serato like VDJ, 1/8 straight out to the speakers.

The audio would come from the CDJ as per normal. The audio feed would get to the CDJ from the laptop via a USB cable

So kinda like how the v7s are setup. But use a usb thumb drive as the activator.

Im sure it would have been plausible if the soundcard was built into the cdjs, but then if they did set up cdj's like the v7s, then you still wouldnt need a dongle because the built in soundcard would activate the software.

This isn't that much a stretch, as long as Pioneer comes out with a Serato approved CDJ.

its also like that in traktor.

what he's basically saying is that he wants a full off line player. which really should be implemented IMO.

Im pretty sure he wants a cdj setup similar to how the V7's are setup:

Laptop usb out to cdj, with the cdj actually containing the sound card/unlocking feature. And the cdj directly out to the sound system via rca.

But like i said above, if the cdj unit comtains the actual sound card, then theres no need for a dongle.

And even if they were to implement a dongle now, you still have the problem of not having a sound card.

Like DisGrace said, thats something serato and pioneer will have to team up and do.

But in all reality, its only an extra minute or so to hook up rcas to an SL box.

^ i meant to say cdj out to the mixer. Then mixer to sound system

if pioneer were to impliment serato friendly soundcards into their units, i wonder how that would effect the usage of the Rane Sixty-series mixers.

one of the things that made me abandon the v7's was the decision to do video.

when using itch and running alongside the v7's, the ttm-57 would not function as a midi mixer with itch to control video.

i never understood why they didn't allow the 57 to work as a midi mixer with the v7's to control video functions.

but i wonder if there would be a problem with Sixty-Mixer functionality if a Pioneer CDJ sound card were introduced into the mix.

As stated before I don't believe a smaller dongle will work. I am not sure if the internal hardware of the CDJs (and many other devices) can support all of the in/out data and Digital/Analog conversion required to get the time code signals and audio signals where they need to be . You would also need a minimum of 3 USB ports, which would mean most users will need a hub, which would be more cumbersome than connecting an SL box...

Supposedly, Serato has a bigger dongle than Traktor.

Why would you need 3 ports? Or time code?

1 USB port per deck and the USB port for the dongle.

Correction, you currently need 3 (forgot about the mixer)

ya, for some reason I thought the CDJs shared a USB cable so only one went to the computer

just two usb's. 1 for cdm and one for the mixer. the cdj's can connect to each other via ethernet cable.

ok, thats what I thought