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Re-add 4 Beat loop feature on CDJ 2000s

djhydro 12:55 PM - 18 December, 2013
My favorite feature on the CDJ 2000s is the 4 beat loop button.
This feature worked great with Scratch live HID but when Serato DJ came out it was replaced but the hot loop.
COULD YOU PLEASE RE-ADD THE 4 BEAT LOOP FEATURE AS PIONEER INTENDED IT TO BE USED
Serato, Support
Jamie W 8:28 PM - 18 December, 2013
Hey DJhydro,

Thanks for getting in touch,

This 4 beat loop button has been removed on the latest CDJ2000Nexus models and has been replaced by a button called "Loop Mode"
-- This button is mapped to activate a "saved loop" region in Serato DJ.

This is the reason the CDJ2000 4 beat loop button has been mapped that way.
In saying that it does not mean we cannot change this in the future if enough other users want this feature.

Thanks for sending in your feedback :)
JoshuaBula 1:08 AM - 19 December, 2013
I agree... the fact that it doesn't exist on a different piece of hardware doesn't seem like a good reason for it to not work correctly on the CDJ-2000. At least let us assign it to the 4 beat loop button using the MIDI assign or something.
R-Dub 2:55 AM - 20 December, 2013
i AGREE. it needs to work JUST like in Scrtch Live!!!! push once for instant 4 beat, hold down for 8. and also hold loop out while hitting it again to get to 16. I LOVED that feature and use it in almost every track i play in Sctch Live. I cant see ever using SDJ without it. not happy!
Matt Allcock 5:25 AM - 20 December, 2013
+ 1

I use this feature all the time.
DJ TLS 5:17 AM - 22 December, 2013
+1
Frozone 11:12 PM - 22 December, 2013
+1 I also use this function all the time
Paddy_V 4:07 AM - 25 December, 2013
+1 and also allow us to use the loop button on the cdj 2000 nexus and select the loops as you would do with usb/rekordbox
djhydro 12:47 AM - 30 December, 2013
Thank you guys for your support. I really miss that feature and i used to use it a lot for both build ups, manual echoes and even as an emergency bottom if the track was running out. I hope more people will agree with me and Serato will add this feature soon
Dj Tucci 11:41 AM - 30 December, 2013
i also use this function i miss that so much
Dj Tucci 11:44 AM - 30 December, 2013
please re-add this function…
bhim 3:03 PM - 30 December, 2013
RE-ADD THE 4 BEAT LOOP FEATURE IN THE NEW UPDATE
ojgbagg27 10:46 PM - 30 December, 2013
+1
Dj Mikey d 10:23 PM - 2 January, 2014
Please readd it. I loved that feature with serato scratch live
Marine 4:59 PM - 7 January, 2014
Please re add the 4 beat loop feature
R-Dub 4:49 PM - 7 February, 2014
BUMP! this feature NEEDS to be added. Why in the world would you guys remove one of the most handy and used features of the CDJ 2000 - THE G DAM INDUSTRY STANDARD PRO DJ DECK! what are you thinking??? STUPID decision.
Paddy_V 5:37 PM - 7 February, 2014
This is back in with 1.6 on the CDJ 2000 Nexus?
Dj Tucci 5:50 AM - 8 February, 2014
Quote:
This is back in with 1.6 on the CDJ 2000 Nexus?



no, it isn't
easyG 4:01 PM - 8 February, 2014
+1
Frankie Jay 7:21 PM - 8 February, 2014
+1
Leffrey 9:21 PM - 8 February, 2014
+1
Code:E 11:12 PM - 9 February, 2014
This should be fixed. The buttons on the CDJ2000 should be representative of the 2000 and not the 2000nexus.
Frozone 2:59 PM - 10 February, 2014
+1 My thoughts exactly
DJ Swell 2:06 AM - 11 February, 2014
1+ this was the first thing I noticed about SDJ1.6 that I didn't like. It comes in handy all the time for impromptu creative mixing where a "pre-set" loop isn't always what is used. Please please please add
djhydro 11:12 PM - 19 February, 2014
Serato team could you please give us some info if this feature will be added in the near future
Serato, Forum Moderator
Logan D 3:33 AM - 21 February, 2014
Thanks for the feedback guys. Looks like this is quite a popular request so we will look at changing this in an update :)
Dj Mikey d 3:37 AM - 21 February, 2014
thank god! We did it!
R-Dub 5:00 PM - 21 February, 2014
AWESOME!!!!!
Daniel Ventura 11:45 AM - 23 February, 2014
why the hell don't you just let the user re-map buttons/functions like in traktor?
Frozone 2:57 PM - 23 February, 2014
+1
Matt Allcock 11:42 PM - 13 March, 2014
This is pretty much the only reason why I still use Scratch Live. Once it gets added to SDJ then I will make the move.
djhydro 12:57 AM - 15 March, 2014
I have talked a few times with some SDJ reps and they will be adding this feature soon. thank you everyone for all your support
dylan1993 5:32 PM - 21 March, 2014
I have the rane sl2 and two cdjs 2000 connected with serato dj 1.6. Now I have a problem with the 4 beat loop button it doesn't work. You must repair this because it is my favorite function.
Daniel Ventura 9:24 AM - 25 March, 2014
is this finally fixed in 1.6.1?
R-Dub 2:52 PM - 25 March, 2014
It's not mentioned in the release notes so it may not have been addressed.
dylan1993 3:21 PM - 25 March, 2014
Still it does not work. Why don't you have this function updated??
R-Dub 4:02 PM - 25 March, 2014
FAIL. :(
Serato, Support
Jamie W 8:00 PM - 25 March, 2014
Quote:
Thanks for the feedback guys. Looks like this is quite a popular request so we will look at changing this in an update :)


As Logan has already said guys. It did not make this update. Hold tight :)
Frozone 10:25 PM - 25 March, 2014
That's great news! +1
djhydro 1:43 PM - 23 April, 2014
anything on the 1.6.2 yet?
djhydro 2:04 PM - 23 April, 2014
So the 4 BEAT AUTO LOOP HAS BEEN READDED however its not working like is supposed to you should be able to press it again and go to a 2 beat and so on but if you press it again it takes you completely out CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TAKE A LOOK AT THIS ?
it was working fine on scratch live i don't understand why the same thing can't be done on SDJ
R-Dub 2:43 PM - 23 April, 2014
if you press and hold the 4 beat auto loop button in does it go to 8 beats? If you press and hold the loop out button and press the auto loop button at the same time does it double (to 16) ?
Serato, Support
Jamie W 8:57 PM - 23 April, 2014
Hey Guys,

Quote:
So the 4 BEAT AUTO LOOP HAS BEEN READDED however its not working like is supposed to you should be able to press it again and go to a 2 beat and so on but if you press it again it takes you completely out CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TAKE A LOOK AT THIS ?


Its slightly different then SSL but;

To adjust the loop size once you hit the 4 Beat Loop button press the "CUE/LOOP Call" arrow buttons. < > this will double or half the loop size.

Thanks :)
R-Dub 9:46 PM - 23 April, 2014
that sounds nice.
R-Dub 3:43 PM - 29 September, 2014
Jaimie W, does your technique of using the < > buttons work with Derato DJ 1.7 ? I tried it with 1.6.2 and it doesn't work. hitting the < or > button just gets me out of the loop. (I'm using CDJ 2000 ).
Serato, Support
Jamie W 8:19 PM - 29 September, 2014
Hey R-Dub,

My mistake, I have given you the wrong information!
You are correct, currently the < > buttons deactivate the loop for the CDJ2000Nexus.
-- The 900Nexus is working as expected.
I will log this behaviour for our Product Owners to look into.

Thanks,
Jamie
938MyDJ 10:53 PM - 30 September, 2014
Are we talking about <1/2 & 2X> on this one, or a different finction?
ilandjproducer 4:11 AM - 10 October, 2014
Just need to be exactly like it was with cdj 2000, hiting 2 different knob isn t good for the workflow...
938MyDJ 5:39 AM - 10 October, 2014
I know, I am hoping Serato will do something about this on 1.7.2

Although I have an SP1, and several other accessories, I wanted to have the essential controls on a 3 pc SRT/CDJ2000Nexus set up.
938MyDJ 6:29 PM - 15 October, 2014
I need to bump this...
I am hoping this gets added on 1.7.2

CDJ2000s and CDJ2000Nexus...
Loop ON/OFF control
Half / Double for < >
R-Dub 9:24 PM - 15 October, 2014
+++++++1 !!! enough waiting, PLEASE FIX THIS.
been waiting a year!
If you guys want to be the PRO's choice you need to work with the
Pro equipment!
Serato, Support
Jamie W 9:32 PM - 15 October, 2014
R-Dub & 938MyDJ,

We have currently been working on optimising CDJ behaviour for the HID range.
Just hold on a little further!

Thanks,
Jamie
938MyDJ 10:29 PM - 15 October, 2014
Yeeeey!!!

Thanks a LOT, Jamie : )

Not trying to push it... but if Loop-Roll can be added, that would be EXTRA-Awesome!
Code:E 2:13 AM - 16 October, 2014
Quote:
R-Dub & 938MyDJ,

We have currently been working on optimising CDJ behaviour for the HID range.
Just hold on a little further!

Thanks,
Jamie

Hey jamie, I know serato's not one to give ballpark numbers. But is this something thats coming in the next update (SDJ 1.7.x) or like a big update away (SDJ1.8)
938MyDJ 12:33 AM - 23 October, 2014
Mentioned on another thread that I am in Vegas and cannot test the 1.7.2 beta...

Are we getting proper LOOP behavior on the CDJ2000/CDJ2000NEXUS with < > buttons now? As in half and double?
R-Dub 11:10 PM - 23 October, 2014
according to the Release notes it IS NOT fixed ! thank you serato. SMH.
R-Dub 11:13 PM - 23 October, 2014
938MyDJ 4:06 PM - 24 October, 2014
I've tested the beta and found out that the < & > only works half/double after the 4beat loop is engaged.

Please make the LOOP MODE button as a Loop ON/OFF toggle button.
The < & > should work whether a Loop is engaged or not.

If any of our brothers here can suggest a better mapping, now is our chance to do so while 1.7.2 is under construction.

: )
R-Dub 4:14 PM - 24 October, 2014
Quote:
I've tested the beta and found out that the < & > only works half/double after the 4beat loop is engaged.

Please make the LOOP MODE button as a Loop ON/OFF toggle button.
The < & > should work whether a Loop is engaged or not.

If any of our brothers here can suggest a better mapping, now is our chance to do so while 1.7.2 is under construction.

: )


so what your saying is that you first hit the 4 beat loop button to set a 4 beat loop. then hit > to double it (or < to half it) hit > again and it doubles it again. etc etc... correct? if so then that works for me. It's actually better than the original way the CDJs work (you need to hit and hold down loop out and then hit the 4 beat loop button again to double it)
938MyDJ 4:25 PM - 24 October, 2014
Isn't better to adjust the loop size while the Loop is Off so we have the option to Loop with any loop-measure instantly with a push of a button?
R-Dub 4:35 PM - 24 October, 2014
how does using the </> buttons to trigger a loop solve that? plus those should be used for recalling saved loops (as they are intended) once a loop is active then using them to double/half it seems fine to me. Believe me i'd love to have a way to instantly engage a 16 beat loop but with the hardware the way it is i dont think that possible. Thats where dicers or a add-on controller comes in. I'm happy with the buttons working as Pioneer intended them to work.. just my opinion. thoughts?
938MyDJ 5:25 PM - 24 October, 2014
Thanks for your input R-Dub!
I honestly could live with this too.

But the reason why I want this feature is, I do my loops on the fly.
I don't use the saved-loops slots at all.

Also, I probably got spoiled with the strip-pad loop control of the CDJs in Rekordbox, as well as the loop controls of my SP1, SX2, and SZ.

And there's no problem to be solved here... It's just a Feature Suggestion : )

Cheers
Code:E 10:29 PM - 24 October, 2014
Quote:
If any of our brothers here can suggest a better mapping, now is our chance to do so while 1.7.2 is under construction.

: )

Yes there is one suggestion that only should be followed.

Serto is fucking up HID mode at every turn. Make the Dam CDJ act liuke a CDJ and nothing else. Dont remap buttons, dont change behaviour just do it the way the CDJ was built for it too work. Thats what made HID mode great in SSL and what makes it unsuable in SDJ.
ilandjproducer 10:58 PM - 26 October, 2014
+1
hid mode is not for bedroom dj's so rane don't care about it...
it's not a priority, money first...
Daniel Ventura 11:40 AM - 27 October, 2014
that's why i use Traktor when it Comes to cdjs. it simply works and remapping is no Problem plus you can use the internal soundcards with their spdif Outs :-) serato and hid was always crappy.
Code:E 7:11 PM - 27 October, 2014
Quote:
serato and hid was always crappy.

Serato DJ and HID was/is Crapy.

SSL and HID is by far the best system out there.
ilandjproducer 4:20 AM - 12 December, 2014
And so ? Any news ?
R-Dub 12:23 PM - 12 December, 2014
4 beat button is working finally! thank U!
Dj Tucci 7:37 AM - 30 December, 2014
working in serato dj 1.7.2